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		Former Bush Administration officials are reacting to the explosive revelations coming from former speechwriter Matt Latimer's book with a resounding "who was he again, exactly?" (news.yahoo.com)		67
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MaxxLarge		2009-09-18 10:13:10 AM

Yeah, well...They said the same thing when Scott McClellan and Tom Ridge wrote THEIR books.

See, the thing is, former members of the Bush administration? THEY'RE FULL OF $#!+. They've always BEEN full of $#!+, and they'll always BE full of $#!+. It's sort of their defining characteristic.

Lionel Mandrake		2009-09-18 10:14:26 AM

They protest too much.

Diogenes		2009-09-18 10:20:52 AM

Typical Bush staffer...can't even put his foot in his mouth right.

Pocket Ninja		2009-09-18 10:25:47 AM

Wait. What house are you saying we were in? A white house? The White House? Odd. I don't remember a white house. Where was this, you say? Washington? Washington DC? Hm. That's not ringing a bell. It's the capital? The capital of the United States? A white house in the capital of the United States. I'm really sorry, but it's just coming back to me. Maybe if you had a picture or something, that might jog my memory a bit. No, no. Gee, that's not helping at all. It's a nice looking building, I'm sure I'd remember being there. White house. Hm. The White House. Yeah, sorry I can't help you. Hope you find the guy.

Macinfarker		2009-09-18 10:28:26 AM

Running out of defenses, eh?

Macinfarker		2009-09-18 10:29:03 AM

Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

LivingDeadX1		2009-09-18 10:32:53 AM

Damn... we should really consider voting this "Bush" fellow out of office.

Oh, wait...

vernonFL		2009-09-18 10:33:18 AM

MaxxLarge: Scott McClellan and Tom Ridge wrote THEIR books.

Paul O'Neill too. Who was he again? Secretary of the Treasury? Pffft. What a nobody!

NuclearWinter		2009-09-18 10:34:36 AM

They paint a picture of the guy as the average joe so he could be electable, then when someone releases a book showing just how (below) average the guy is, they want to change it up a bit.

Sorry, but Latimer's got more credibility on this. It's obvious that Bush is a "good ol boy" so the excerpts I've seen look pretty convincing.

obzerver		2009-09-18 10:34:44 AM

Bush who?

Magorn		2009-09-18 10:37:07 AM

Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

moralpanic		2009-09-18 10:37:50 AM

LOL that's the only thing they can come up with? 'Who was that guy?'

IXI Jim IXI		2009-09-18 10:37:54 AM

Well, those officials were obviously not in the loop.

Magorn		2009-09-18 10:40:03 AM

now to be fair some of their criticisms are pretty damning

"His access was episodic. Look, his office was not in the West Wing and he was a junior or mid-level staffer over in the Executive Office Building so he would occasionally be in big group meetings. He wasn't someone who had regular access to the president," Fratto said. "He has a reference in there to an over-caffeinated Karl Rove. Well, Karl famously doesn't drink caffeinated drinks. Everyone in the White House knew that."

he absolutely right, a careful observer should easily be able to tell the difference between a guy whose had too much coffee and one who has been tooting crank non-stop of 72 hours...

Dreadful Peanut		2009-09-18 10:40:42 AM

I think GOP members would be great athletes. They dodge, they evade, they twist, they punt, they backtrack . . . Too bad they can't ever seem to score. Oh well.

nmrsnr		2009-09-18 10:42:09 AM

Didn't the West Wing have an episode on this where some low level staffer wrote a "tell-all" and the senior staff kept asking "who WAS that guy?"

Flab		2009-09-18 10:42:16 AM

Why did she have to go and make it so complicated?

Guntram Shatterhand		2009-09-18 10:42:42 AM

Dreadful Peanut: I think GOP members would be great athletes. They dodge, they evade, they twist, they punt, they backtrack . . . Too bad they can't ever seem to score. Oh well.

They can only score in a public restroom.

Flab		2009-09-18 10:42:53 AM

wrong thread. ignore.

Diogenes		2009-09-18 10:43:35 AM

Magorn: Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

I didn't have to wade very far into that thread before I found myself saying, "Christ, it turns out Bush was the sane one! How wrong I was."

rufus-t-firefly		2009-09-18 10:47:01 AM

fernt		2009-09-18 10:51:36 AM

MorrisBird		2009-09-18 10:54:39 AM

I don't recall . . .

BraveNewCheneyWorld		2009-09-18 10:55:27 AM

The Bush administration isn't known for recruiting people with great memories, subby.

Also, fta "Are we surprised that a former White House staffer sold out his friends and colleagues for a few pieces of silver and what passes for fame these days in Washington, D.C.?" he asked. "No."

Considering the fact that the Bush administration sold out the American people for a mountain of gold, it seems that his training is complete.

stuhayes2010		2009-09-18 10:57:29 AM

Who knew who Sarah Palin was when McCain picked her besides Alaskans? I don't doubt Bush didn't know her, are Presidents supposed to be able to name all 50 governors?

wingnut396		2009-09-18 10:57:35 AM

Perino similarly viewed Latimer's motives with disdain.

"I'm not saying that he never saw the president because he obviously did, I mean he had his group photo. But he certainly wasn't a confidant," she said. "He's a young man who was given the opportunity of a lifetime to advance his career, and for some reason he felt it was appropriate to demean the people who gave him that opportunity."

He admitted he was sold on the ideas of conservatism, moved by patriotism and had hopes that the Republicans were moving towards a better America.

What he found was the typical, "what can I get out of it", politician mentality. Fark everyone else.

I'm not sure a idealist would be so sorry about losing the advice of people like that.

wingnut396		2009-09-18 10:59:54 AM

stuhayes2010: Who knew who Sarah Palin was when McCain picked her besides Alaskans? I don't doubt Bush didn't know her, are Presidents supposed to be able to name all 50 governors?

See what I get out the Bush quotes I have seen about Palin is not that he didn't know who she was. He know exactly who she was, a nobody (politically speaking) from Guam, Butt-Fark Egypt or Alaska.

Cat Food Sandwiches		2009-09-18 11:04:16 AM

This book sounds a lot like the one Chico Esquela wrote about the Mets.

Mentat		2009-09-18 11:07:33 AM

vernonFL: Paul O'Neill too. Who was he again? Secretary of the Treasury? Pffft. What a nobody!

Do you remember when Paul O'Neill claimed that President Obama said that deficits don't matter? Well THAT certainly explains a lot!

Barricaded Gunman		2009-09-18 11:09:00 AM

LivingDeadX1: Damn... we should really consider voting this "Bush" fellow out of office. Oh, wait...

Or maybe we could just start carving his retarded face into Mt Rushmore.

Magorn		2009-09-18 11:10:15 AM

Diogenes: Magorn: Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

I didn't have to wade very far into that thread before I found myself saying, "Christ, it turns out Bush was the sane one! How wrong I was."

It's farking amazin' innit? The same people that fanaticially supperted him and called us traitors for not doing so WHILE he was in office can't WAIT to distance themselves from him the minute he's gone and it becomes clear what a steaming pile of FAIL he left behind. Had these exact same sentiments been expressed on Freep a year ago, it would have been a one-way ticket to banination. But now of course...

pacmanner		2009-09-18 11:11:11 AM

Gonz		2009-09-18 11:11:22 AM

wingnut396: See what I get out the Bush quotes I have seen about Palin is not that he didn't know who she was. He know exactly who she was, a nobody (politically speaking) from Guam, Butt-Fark Egypt or Alaska.

I haven't RTFB, but the quotes I've seen from it imply that Bush was quite politically savvy. He knew exactly who Palin was, and he also knew what a Presidential campaign would do to her.

pvd021		2009-09-18 11:11:58 AM

On the scale of biggest liars, I think Bush topples all competition. So I'll go with this guy over bush jr. But that being said, I don't think his book will sell much because he's not revealing anything that the public doesn't already know or suspect.

Overall the book sounds just like another footnote on how incredibly ignorant and stupid Bush Jr. was which is just another reminder of how ignorantly stupid a great portion of the American population are also.

Blues_X		2009-09-18 11:15:27 AM

"It's not within most people's view of how you serve the public or be an honorable person, but that's his call."

As opposed to FARKING TORTURE.

MisterBill		2009-09-18 11:16:16 AM

stuhayes2010: Who knew who Sarah Palin was when McCain picked her besides Alaskans? I don't doubt Bush didn't know her, are Presidents supposed to be able to name all 50 governors?

I remember having heard about her before the nomination, but only because talkingpointsmemo.com was tracking the ethics investigation against her.

Jubeebee		2009-09-18 11:17:19 AM

Magorn: Diogenes: Magorn: Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

I didn't have to wade very far into that thread before I found myself saying, "Christ, it turns out Bush was the sane one! How wrong I was."

It's farking amazin' innit? The same people that fanaticially supperted him and called us traitors for not doing so WHILE he was in office can't WAIT to distance themselves from him the minute he's gone and it becomes clear what a steaming pile of FAIL he left behind. Had these exact same sentiments been expressed on Freep a year ago, it would have been a one-way ticket to banination. But now of course...

I've noticed a pattern:

-GOP gets into power.
-Conservatives: "SUCK IT LIBS! With us or against us!"
-GOP enacts conservative policy.
-Conservatives: "God's own country! Bestestest President/Senator/Rep EVER! Reagan would be proud!"
-GOP policies predictably fail on an epic scale.
-Conservatives: "RINO! Closet lib! If he was a real conservative Jesus would have come back!"
-Dems get into power and try to fix shiat.
-Conservatives: "YOUR GUY SUCKS! Our guy sucked less even though he was a RINO! Let's elect someone even more conservative than the last guy to solve the problems caused by rampant conservatism!"

Happened with Clinton, happening now with Obama.

FeedTheCollapse		2009-09-18 11:23:56 AM

pacmanner: Dreadful Peanut: I think GOP members would be great athletes. They dodge, they evade, they twist, they punt, they backtrack . . . Too bad they can't ever seem to score. Oh well.

Say what you want about Bush but he sure did dodge those shoes pretty good.

Republicans: The know they 5 D's of Dodgeball.

sigdiamond2000		2009-09-18 11:25:16 AM

Non zealous. Over gruntled staffer.

El Pachuco		2009-09-18 11:27:54 AM

Magorn: Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

One of them just referred to GWB as a "socialist scumbag."

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aearra		2009-09-18 11:38:54 AM

The Bush "loyalists" remind me of soldiers closing ranks around Custer.

El Pachuco		2009-09-18 11:39:42 AM

Wow, several of them are calling Bush a Socialist. Is this some new GOP/Freeper talking point, or are they all off their meds, or what?

To: B-Chan

What in the hell are you talking about? Nop One is posting their love of Bush on this tread...yet. I for one can't stand the socialist scummbag.

16 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:19:20 AM by stockpirate (Joe Wilson Truth Czar for a Free Republic!)

To: TBP

Ah the frat boy socialist yankee speaks. Now the true colors are being shown.

21 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:22:15 AM by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)

To: TBP

Bush and his entire family back to before the revolution has been against the US as an independant nation! He's another in a long line of socialist pile of crap!

23 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:24:06 AM by dalereed

To: TBP

Bush is a socialist. News only to the blind dead and dumb.

81 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:42:29 PM by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)

TheBlackrose		2009-09-18 11:42:11 AM

El Pachuco: Wow, several of them are calling Bush a Socialist. Is this some new GOP/Freeper talking point, or are they all off their meds, or what?

To: B-Chan

What in the hell are you talking about? Nop One is posting their love of Bush on this tread...yet. I for one can't stand the socialist scummbag.

16 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:19:20 AM by stockpirate (Joe Wilson Truth Czar for a Free Republic!)

To: TBP

Ah the frat boy socialist yankee speaks. Now the true colors are being shown.

21 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:22:15 AM by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)

To: TBP

Bush and his entire family back to before the revolution has been against the US as an independant nation! He's another in a long line of socialist pile of crap!

23 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:24:06 AM by dalereed

To: TBP

Bush is a socialist. News only to the blind dead and dumb.

81 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:42:29 PM by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)

And suddenly, seeing why Mendelev wants to talk to the "dissidents" becomes a whole lot clearer.

//Hope it's to tell them to STFU because they're clueless

glenlivid		2009-09-18 11:42:33 AM

Barricaded Gunman: LivingDeadX1: Damn... we should really consider voting this "Bush" fellow out of office. Oh, wait...

Or maybe we could just start carving his retarded face into Mt Rushmore.

Oh you just wait! The "manufactured" unhappiness with Obama is going to culminate in the nut-bag right blissfully wanting to return to the simple times, when a swaggering dildo with a fake southern accent could pacify all their fears.

Afer watching millions of deluded dipsh*ts put all their hope in Sarah Palin, NOTHING surprises me anymore.

FormlessOne		2009-09-18 11:44:43 AM

El Pachuco: Wow, several of them are calling Bush a Socialist.

Socialism is the "insult du jour" in Freeperland. Most of them have no clue what socialism actually is, mind you, they've just heard it used as an insult by their favorite talking heads about their least favorite political figures, so it must apply to any political figure that they now dislike.

You have to remember, they're just simple people, the salt of the earth.

You know... morons.

TheGhostofFarkPast		2009-09-18 11:45:38 AM

El Pachuco: Magorn: Macinfarker: Since when was Bush *President*? Damn liberal media...

I know, I was on Free Republic just yesterday (new window)and the true patriots there were Outraged, OUTRAGED that the media had the gall to say that this "new England-born RINO" was somehow a "conservative" or even really a "Republican". clearly bush was a liberal and should only be referred to as such...

One of them just referred to GWB as a "socialist scumbag."

Who didn't see that coming? Freepers are hilarious in their epic fail when it comes to being logical rational thinkers. Everything is impulsive and a "gut" reaction instead of thinking everythign to the end. Granted this also affects people all over the political spectrum but they seem to be more prone to it.

Cat Food Sandwiches		2009-09-18 11:54:33 AM

This is the USA. Have we ever been happy with a president while they were in office? Will we ever?

Magorn		2009-09-18 12:01:45 PM

El Pachuco: Wow, several of them are calling Bush a Socialist. Is this some new GOP/Freeper talking point, or are they all off their meds, or what?

To: B-Chan

What in the hell are you talking about? Nop One is posting their love of Bush on this tread...yet. I for one can't stand the socialist scummbag.

16 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:19:20 AM by stockpirate (Joe Wilson Truth Czar for a Free Republic!)

To: TBP

Ah the frat boy socialist yankee speaks. Now the true colors are being shown.

21 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:22:15 AM by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)

To: TBP

Bush and his entire family back to before the revolution has been against the US as an independant nation! He's another in a long line of socialist pile of crap!

23 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:24:06 AM by dalereed

To: TBP

Bush is a socialist. News only to the blind dead and dumb.

81 posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:42:29 PM by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)

Utterly farking amazing, the entire Bush clan is retroactively damned as evil socialists unto the 5th generation. can you imagine the kind of names these very same people would have called me or you if WE'd said that about bush even a year or two ago?

seriously, there has to be a clincal diagnosis for cognitive dissonance that strong.

dstanley		2009-09-18 12:05:35 PM

stuhayes2010: Who knew who Sarah Palin was when McCain picked her besides Alaskans?

She's been popular on Fark for years (new window)

El Pachuco		2009-09-18 12:14:24 PM

FormlessOne: El Pachuco: Wow, several of them are calling Bush a Socialist.

Socialism is the "insult du jour" in Freeperland. Most of them have no clue what socialism actually is, mind you, they've just heard it used as an insult by their favorite talking heads about their least favorite political figures, so it must apply to any political figure that they now dislike.

I suspect this may be the actual reason. It's making the occasional right-wing Farker who calls Weaver95 a leftist, when Weav says something mildly critical about teabaggers or similar, look sagacious in comparison.

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