Even if the guy is suicidal and mentally ill, he's assaulted officers 19 times. What the heck are they supposed to do with him besides solitary confinement?

/the standard is not perfection, the standard is the alternative

Wasn't this a storyline in a Batman comic?

It happened to me...

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Well, if it's driving inmates insane, that's not really the point.
On the other hand, he's probably an attention whore trying to get out.

Prison inmate trifecta in play?

Cue the pics of that redneck inmate who filed handwritten lawsuits to sue famous people from jail.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: NO WAY I'm clicking ANY Gorgor links in this thread.

I give it half an hour before his first link.

Speaking of supermax prisons and execution, dud you know that it's been almost four years since Tookie Williams was executed? Feels like yesterday.

Staffist: Anyone who can turn a 7 year sentence into a 101 year sentence from the inside is a dumbass, and therefore must be insane.

Quite an accomplishment.

I did watch a documentary once that had a guy who spent maybe 7 years in a supermax, and had gotten out and stopped being a criminal, and he spoke at length about how messed up in the head he was, particularly his interactions with others, as a result of being in that environment for years. It's kind of scary that we take messed up people, mess them up further, then release them.

Wanted for questioning...

Prison should be:

One big room for EVERYONE

Food and water for half the population

Where you go until you are executed (lesser crimes punished with fines and/or time in stocks/pillory)

Underground, in old mine shafts, where it will be a steady 60 degree year-round, and difficult to escape from

Inmates forfeited all of their rights once they were convicted. This piece of trash is fortunate that he is fed and clothed by the state. And I'm sure that inmates would never think to file frivolous lawsuits against the state. Noooooo, being as they have so little free time on their hands I'm sure they save all of that for personal advancement.

Staffist: Anyone who can turn a 7 year sentence into a 101 year sentence from the inside is a dumbass, and therefore must be insane.

It's always nice when recidivism works in society's favor for a change.

fanbladesaresharp: Contrabulous Flabtraption: NO WAY I'm clicking ANY Gorgor links in this thread.

I give it half an hour before his first link.

whut?
http://tinyurl.com/krb4zv
(copy and paste)

okami36: Prison should be:

One big room for EVERYONE

Food and water for half the population

Where you go until you are executed (lesser crimes punished with fines and/or time in stocks/pillory)

Do YOU wanna be the guy that goes and gets the prisoner about to be executed out of a cave full of prisoners?

Gay

incarceration should be about time to reflect on your crime, and the loss of liberty, not being subjected to a living hell in which physical and psychological torture are doled out with reckless abandon for human rights or social implications.
it is damaging to the inmates psyche, the guards mental health and i guess most importantly, society does not benefit from spending heaps of money training criminals to be more violent and more dispassionate.
It all seems rather retarded to me, but then again im not profiting from a fat government contract
1% are locked up here (in the US), would you want one of those guys to come out of that place and live in your neighborhood after what they have been through?
/que the "they commited the crime they deserve it.. at any cost" people that have never even seen the inside of a detention facility past (maybe) the drunk tank

That sounds like a great plan to me, I'm off to get the butter knife.

/slashie for my penis

littlett's: For example, he cuts his groin to derive sexual gratification from treatment by female nurses, testified Katherine Clover, a clinical social worker.

That takes some dedication there.

FIX MY BROKEN PENIS, DAMMIT!

/ Awwwww yeah...

gorgor: fanbladesaresharp: Contrabulous Flabtraption: NO WAY I'm clicking ANY Gorgor links in this thread.

I give it half an hour before his first link.

whut?
http://tinyurl.com/krb4zv
(copy and paste)

Linkify makes Gorgor so much more awesome, since the Linkify icon in the tray lights up and informs me of a converted link in the thread.

It's like "you may be eaten by a grue".

Prisons aren't frightening enough to keep people out of them. Maybe they ought to go back to shackling people to the walls, dirt floors, stale bread and stagnant water meals, abysmal lighting, and guards whom are encouraged to lash out often and physically. A less comfortable prison experience is a less visited prison experience. Obviously rehabilitation hasn't been working, I think it's time for pure punishment again.

DaBishop: okami36: Prison should be:

One big room for EVERYONE

Food and water for half the population

Where you go until you are executed (lesser crimes punished with fines and/or time in stocks/pillory)

Do YOU wanna be the guy that goes and gets the prisoner about to be executed out of a cave full of prisoners?

Only a few of them have eaten much in a few days. With my properly equipped vehicle, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Of course, some of them may get executed early if they try anything.

Or, just keep tossing them in until max capacity is reached, then toss in some gas grenades and/or collapse the entrance.

Molavian: Who?

...seriously?

Supermax, they're like, for profit, right? Wouldn't it be in their best interest to keep prisoners in, perhaps by extending their stay through charges of attacking guards? "Yes, the prisoner kept repeatedly hitting my fist with his face, causing me to feel unsafe in my workplace..." Ok, add another 25 years to his sentence... I'm not saying that this is what actually happened, but if you deny potentially psychotic inmates proper care and treatment, are you not CAUSING them to behave more aggressively? This would again be in the prison's best interest, as there will always be prisoners to bill for...

Jesus, the blatantly ignorant posts about how easy jail is from those mad at the world are coming out in record numbers. I recommend all stop reading this thread to avoid becoming stupider.

Oh, Life on the inside ain't what it used to be.
Y'know, the kids have gone crazy,
and they'll stick you for a slice of cheese.
Oh, it's a drag, I know,
there's only one place to go.
Baby, back where I come from,
I'm comin' home.

Potatoe: incarceration should be about time to reflect on your crime, and the loss of liberty, not being subjected to a living hell in which physical and psychological torture are doled out with reckless abandon for human rights or social implications.

Explain the physical torture endured in prison. Psychological, I can sort of understand, but that's a different discussion.

Potatoe: it is damaging to the inmates psyche, the guards mental health and i guess most importantly, society does not benefit from spending heaps of money training criminals to be more violent and more dispassionate.

Moving an inmate to a Supermax is usually reserved for the type of person that can't be much more violent and dispassionate.

Potatoe: would you want one of those guys to come out of that place and live in your neighborhood after what they have been through?

I don't believe that anyone going into a Supermax is coming out on anything but a stretcher.

I can has cocoanut?

okami36: Or, just keep tossing them in until max capacity is reached, then toss in some gas grenades and/or collapse the entrance.

Why not just execute them outright and skip step 1?

MasterThief: Even if the guy is suicidal and mentally ill, he's assaulted officers 19 times. What the heck are they supposed to do with him besides solitary confinement?

/the standard is not perfection, the standard is the alternative

There's always the option to beat the everliving shiat out of the inmate the next time he attacks a guard. I mean really lay it on thick, skull fractures, take out an eye and a few teeth. Shatter both kneecaps. Eventually, he'll either learn or he'll be too crippled to fight. Either way, problem solved, right? Right?

Pxtl: It's like "you may be eaten by a grue".

Whoa...flashback.

okami36: DaBishop: okami36: Prison should be:

One big room for EVERYONE

Food and water for half the population

Where you go until you are executed (lesser crimes punished with fines and/or time in stocks/pillory)

Do YOU wanna be the guy that goes and gets the prisoner about to be executed out of a cave full of prisoners?

Only a few of them have eaten much in a few days. With my properly equipped vehicle, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Of course, some of them may get executed early if they try anything.

Or, just keep tossing them in until max capacity is reached, then toss in some gas grenades and/or collapse the entrance.

Yeah, and we should put that prison on a planet that is so hot that if you escape the jail you instantly fry when you get outside.

\\i saw that movie too

Confabulat: BlastedToMoosh: Prisons aren't frightening enough to keep people out of them. Maybe they ought to go back to shackling people to the walls, dirt floors, stale bread and stagnant water meals, abysmal lighting, and guards whom are encouraged to lash out often and physically. A less comfortable prison experience is a less visited prison experience. Obviously rehabilitation hasn't been working, I think it's time for pure punishment again.

When are you going to realize that for some people, there is no punishment that will stop them? You can't scare some people straight. Doesn't work that way.

Yes well, you can physically weaken those who can't be scared straight to a point where they die off prematurely. No skin off my back.

gorgor:
http://tinyurl.com/krb4zv
(copy and paste)

oh THATS what the ignore button is for.

Potatoe:
/que the "they commited the crime they deserve it.. at any cost" people that have never even seen the inside of a detention facility past (maybe) the drunk tank

I was in the drunk tank once. It was cold and in the next cell was a woman who got a DUI who wouldn't quit screaming about how her life is ruined. And I shared my cell with a mexican who didn't speak any english besides the few curse words he would occasionally yell at her.

Yea, it seems like a place where the guards don't care and actively harass the people. But I guess thats what I get for having beer muscles.


/I was still drunk when they released me the next day...My credit card was missing when I got my wallet back and there was exactly 2 dollars left for bus fare.
//cell phone was dead

Staffist: Anyone who can turn a 7 year sentence into a 101 year sentence from the inside is a dumbass, and therefore must be insane.

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