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(Some Death Panel)   Hospital hiring "Medical Denials Specialist" to assist with insurance billing issues. Good benefits, room for growth   (directemployers.jobcentral.com) divider line 139
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2009-09-13 12:30:24 PM
You do realize this position actually helps people get their insurance to pay for their hospital care by providing documentation that was unavailable when the insurance companies initially denied the authorization for admission or treatment.

This position rebuts the denial it does not deny anything.
 
2009-09-13 12:47:10 PM
feckingmorons

This position rebuts the denial it does not deny anything

So whoever gets the job will be vehemently against health care reform, then.
 
2009-09-13 12:54:32 PM
This is bad news....for Obama.
 
2009-09-13 12:56:11 PM
OMG OBAMASOCIALISM!.
 
2009-09-13 12:57:50 PM
feckingmorons: You do realize this position actually helps people get their insurance to pay for their hospital care by providing documentation that was unavailable when the insurance companies initially denied the authorization for admission or treatment.

This position rebuts the denial it does not deny anything.


HEY! Stop that. This Fark, there is no room for logic around here.

Now step aside, and let us be outraged.
 
2009-09-13 12:58:15 PM
regardless of what the position actually is... I've got news subby... insurance companies specializing in denying claims has been around a long long long long long long long long long long long long long time before Obama. fail.
 
2009-09-13 01:00:45 PM
Article says... "This position has the opportunity to go full time, offers wonderful benefits, and has the potential for growth."

Wonder what the medical benefits are like?...
 
2009-09-13 01:01:04 PM
Good gravy... EVERY INSURER / HMO HAS APPEALS ANALYSTS THAT DENY THOUSANDS OF CLAIMS PER DAY!

Sorry for the shouting, but it really doesn't seem to be sinking in for some people.

It's what appeals analysts do, and they all have guidelines intended to maximize the insurer's bottom line.
 
2009-09-13 01:01:10 PM
Insurance companies killed my father. And raped my mother.
 
2009-09-13 01:03:10 PM
It's a bizarre job title but all hospitals and doctors' offices have specialists - even entire departments - just to deal with insurance. I've never heard it called a "medical denials specialist" but it looks like they want someone who will deal only with denied claims to try to untangle the problems, which sounds a little weird to me. If they're getting that many claims denied, maybe they should be training their billing department to audit claims more carefully before sending them out to make sure procedure codes are correctly filled in.
 
2009-09-13 01:03:36 PM
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2009-09-13 01:03:38 PM
It's Canada ya hosers!
 
2009-09-13 01:05:08 PM
diadelsuerte: Insurance companies killed my father. And raped my mother.

Glenn Beck killed two birds with one stone.
 
2009-09-13 01:05:59 PM
You all shut up about insurance companies driving up profits by denying claims you just shut up! You know what the alternative is? Government healthcare for everyone that isn't profit-driven and incentivized to deny claims; that's right! So just shut...uh.

Socialism birth certificate oligarhy taxes deficit!
 
2009-09-13 01:09:06 PM
What? A medical provider offering to help negotiate with insurance companies instead of just rebilling the sick person? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

i729.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-13 01:10:18 PM
www.suspect-device.com
 
2009-09-13 01:10:53 PM
Health insurance companies are running the biggest most overpriced scam and the republickers who are against health care reform all receive some sort of monetary compensation from them.

You might as well look at health care reform like the the repeal of pot prohibition--it'll never happen--because 1) certain interests make way too much money off the broken system and 2) Americans are too stupid and believe anything they see on a commercial
 
2009-09-13 01:11:17 PM
Hospital and medical staff titles can be bizarre. I like the places that advertise and hire "Breast Navigators." I definitely want that on my business card!

/Aye aye.
 
2009-09-13 01:11:34 PM
Wonko Fortytwo: It's Canada ya hosers!


No WOODLAND PARK, CO
 
2009-09-13 01:12:12 PM
Anti-death panel?
 
2009-09-13 01:12:22 PM
CygnusDarius: OMG OBAMASOCIALISM!.

Close,

OMGWTFBBQSOCIALISTSEEKRITMUSLINFASCISTUNAMERICANKENYANMUSTARDCOMMIEBIRTHCERTIFI C ATE!! 1 11!!1ELEVENTYONE11!!!!11!!
 
2009-09-13 01:12:49 PM
Wonko Fortytwo: It's Canada ya hosers!

No, it's Woodland Park, CO, as in Colorado, as in where a Glen Beck teabagger rally was held recently. It's where the good conservatives move to when they get enough cash to move out of Colorado Springs proper. (Then they want to move back when they realize how much money they're spending on gas for their SUVs to truck down to CO Springs on I24 every day).
 
2009-09-13 01:13:08 PM
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Deee-nied!
 
2009-09-13 01:15:22 PM
inglixthemad: CygnusDarius: OMG OBAMASOCIALISM!.

Close,

OMGWTFBBQSOCIALISTSEEKRITMUSLINFASCISTUNAMERICANKENYANMUSTARDCOMMIEBIRTHCERTIFI C ATE!! 1 11!!1ELEVENTYONE11!!!!11!!


Mustard commie?
 
2009-09-13 01:15:37 PM
redqueenmeg: What? A medical provider offering to help negotiate with insurance companies instead of just rebilling the sick person? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Of course, in the long run it will be cheaper to hire full time worker (with benefits) to shake up the insurance company, dig through the fine print, to make these asshats pay, then to just keep billing someone over and over again, and only getting $20 installments.
 
2009-09-13 01:17:06 PM
Egalitarian: Wonko Fortytwo: It's Canada ya hosers!

No, it's Woodland Park, CO, as in Colorado, as in where a Glen Beck teabagger rally was held recently. It's where the good conservatives move to when they get enough cash to move out of Colorado Springs proper. (Then they want to move back when they realize how much money they're spending on gas for their SUVs to truck down to CO Springs on I24 every day).




Alright, I read part of it, locked on to this....EGADS!

"All applicants applying for U.S. job openings must be authorized to work in the United States. All applicants applying for Canadian job openings must be authorized to work in Canada.
"
 
2009-09-13 01:17:24 PM
dennysgod: redqueenmeg: What? A medical provider offering to help negotiate with insurance companies instead of just rebilling the sick person? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Of course, in the long run it will be cheaper to hire full time worker (with benefits) to shake up the insurance company, dig through the fine print, to make these asshats pay, then to just keep billing someone over and over again, and only getting $20 installments.


Oh, I agree.

I just never thought I'd see it happen.
 
2009-09-13 01:18:13 PM
I just did an audit for a prescription insurance company.

I sent everything they asked for, and still denied 10 cliams for $5,400. I have 45 days to file an appeal.

Nice
 
2009-09-13 01:25:18 PM
BobaFeet: regardless of what the position actually is... I've got news subby... insurance companies specializing in denying claims has been around a long long long long long long long long long long long long long time before Obama. fail.

Subby didn't say anything about Obama. You have failed very very very very very very very very very very very very very badly. Fail.
 
2009-09-13 01:29:15 PM
Marcus Aurelius

So whoever gets the job will be vehemently against health care reform, then.

I would think they'd support it, as it will help lead to full time, maybe even a staff. There's no way the number of denials per hospital per day could go down.
 
2009-09-13 01:31:02 PM
SpeelChuck:
It's a bizarre job title but all hospitals and doctors' offices have specialists - even entire departments - just to deal with insurance. I've never heard it called a "medical denials specialist" but it looks like they want someone who will deal only with denied claims to try to untangle the problems, which sounds a little weird to me. If they're getting that many claims denied, maybe they should be training their billing department to audit claims more carefully before sending them out to make sure procedure codes are correctly filled in.

I expect a big part of their job will be saying "no, you [the company] are wrong, your policy states in writing that you are supposed to cover it. Your assertions to the contrary are lies and you are trying to stall until the patient dies".

It's been proven that insurance companies send out incorrect forms, and give incorrect information to clients, in order to use the resultant "bad paperwork" as an excuse to deny coverage.
 
2009-09-13 01:33:30 PM
Githerax: You all shut up about insurance companies driving up profits by denying claims you just shut up! You know what the alternative is? Government healthcare for everyone that isn't profit-driven and incentivized to deny claims; that's right! So just shut...uh.

I hear you sister! And don't get me started on all these profit-driven grocery stores! What's up with that! Universal Food NOW!
 
2009-09-13 01:33:49 PM
redqueenmeg: What? A medical provider offering to help negotiate with insurance companies instead of just rebilling the sick person? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Of course. They want to more effectively go after insurance companies, not because they are compassionate, but because the insurance companies have deeper pockets. This is the punchline of anti-public health care partisans--that health care reform would "add bureaucracy." Hospitals are already adding another layer to their bureaucracies, just to counter insurance companies.

//efficient private sector, my ass.
 
2009-09-13 01:35:04 PM
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!
 
2009-09-13 01:37:07 PM
Broktun
I just did an audit for a prescription insurance company.

I sent everything they asked for, and still denied 10 cliams for $5,400. I have 45 days to file an appeal.

Nice


I have had much the same luck with a local hospital that can't seem to figure out the new account information is the correct one. I see bills all the time when the 4 year closed account denies the claim and I have to jump through the hoops again.

/glad they photocopy my card EVERY DAMN TIME
 
2009-09-13 01:43:10 PM
redqueenmeg: dennysgod: redqueenmeg: What? A medical provider offering to help negotiate with insurance companies instead of just rebilling the sick person? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Of course, in the long run it will be cheaper to hire full time worker (with benefits) to shake up the insurance company, dig through the fine print, to make these asshats pay, then to just keep billing someone over and over again, and only getting $20 installments.

Oh, I agree.

I just never thought I'd see it happen.


About time too, I've been working at a hospital for 10 years and it's scary how much money goes down the drain because insurance companies won't pony up and the patient (rich, poor and in between) can't make large payments so the hospital basically runs on IOU's.
 
2009-09-13 01:44:06 PM
show me: BobaFeet: regardless of what the position actually is... I've got news subby... insurance companies specializing in denying claims has been around a long long long long long long long long long long long long long time before Obama. fail.

Subby didn't say anything about Obama. You have failed very very very very very very very very very very very very very badly. Fail.


Look on the left: 'Some Death Panel'... 99% sure subby was referring to Obama.

you fail at calling out fails.
 
2009-09-13 01:47:54 PM
Wow, just look at those numbers; someone at jobcenter.com is going to come in tomorrow morning and go, "why in the hell do people want this job that badly?"

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/Subby
 
2009-09-13 01:54:16 PM
bachdog: Health insurance companies are running the biggest most overpriced scam and the republickers who are against health care reform all receive some sort of monetary compensation from them.

You might as well look at health care reform like the the repeal of pot prohibition--it'll never happen--because 1) certain interests make way too much money off the broken system and 2) Americans are too stupid and believe anything they see on a commercial


pretty much this
 
2009-09-13 01:56:51 PM
matovichj: inglixthemad: CygnusDarius: OMG OBAMASOCIALISM!.

Close,

OMGWTFBBQSOCIALISTSEEKRITMUSLINFASCISTUNAMERICANKENYANMUSTARDCOMMIEBIRTHCERTIFI C ATE!! 1 11!!1ELEVENTYONE11!!!!11!!

Mustard commie?


GIS for 'mustard commie'

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2009-09-13 02:01:06 PM
Obviously there's nothing inherently wrong with someone doing this job. Insurance claims are, sometimes, properly rejected with no legal or ethical hangover.

But I'd say it's Fark-worthy just because of the incredible tone-deafness it shows. In the auto insurance industry, this guy is called a "claims adjustor," or in some cases a "fraud investigator." Now I get why you wouldn't want to lead off with the word "fraud" when you're dealing with people who are likely to be very sick, but come on.

It goes to highlight the one thing that everybody on all sides of the healthcare shiatstorm can agree on: the health insurance industry is run unspeakably badly. The whole industry is one shining, crap-festooned tribute to the maxim that you shouldn't assume malice where incompetence suffices as an explanation. Those guys testifying before Congress that no, they actually weren't willing to even consider revising their rescission policies? Those were the guys that Enron and BofA and Arthur Andersen all passed on.

Which gives me an idea: put those damn tobacco ex-CEOs in charge of health care. First of all, they deserve to have to deal with sick people, and more importantly, at least they didn't radiate stupid. Better an evil genius than a neutral farkup.
 
2009-09-13 02:04:09 PM
I have no insurance to get denied. TAKE THAT, SUCKERS!

/my cunning plan
//not so well thought out
 
2009-09-13 02:05:13 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but what benefits does health insurance adds to the health care industry?
 
2009-09-13 02:08:02 PM
To all those to whom it may concern:

The purpose of insurance companies is NOT to pay claims -- but to take in premium. And still not pay out ANY claims. To the fullest extent that they can get away with it.

You bunch of s*lly d*ckwads.
 
2009-09-13 02:08:34 PM
I owe my life to just such a specialist, who worked to get the insurance company's denial of a life-saving surgery overturned. These are the good guys, folks.
 
2009-09-13 02:10:00 PM
I have worked in third party payment reconciliation off and on for years. The sooner everybody understands that insurance companies are not your friend, the sooner this situation becomes clear. Insurance companies are in the business of making money, to make stockholders happy. They do this by collecting premiums, and paying out as little as possible on claims. Government makes the situation worse by piling on mandates of coverage. So, women's policies have coverage for prostate issues, while men's have hysterectomies. When medical policies are structured like home owners or auto policies, with wide varieties of levels of coverage and riders for specifics, then we might see some real reform. Until then, keep piling up the crud, and watch more providers drop out. I already work with two different types that refuse to bill patients or any third party payer. They have reduced the overhead of tracking accounts receivable, postage and paper for companies that refuse to go paperless (United Healthcare), and they haven't had to raise their fees to patients.

/stepping off box, heading for my meds
 
2009-09-13 02:10:44 PM
diadelsuerte: Insurance companies killed my father. And raped my mother.

They turned me into a newt.

/I got better
 
2009-09-13 02:10:56 PM
semiotix:
Which gives me an idea: put those damn tobacco ex-CEOs in charge of health care. First of all, they deserve to have to deal with sick people, and more importantly, at least they didn't radiate stupid. Better an evil genius than a neutral farkup.


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2009-09-13 02:12:23 PM
feckingmorons: You do realize this position actually helps people get their insurance to pay for their hospital care by providing documentation that was unavailable when the insurance companies initially denied the authorization for admission or treatment.

This position rebuts the denial it does not deny anything.


And for that matter, these "Denial's Specialists" already exist and have for a while. They're more commonly called Medical Billers. The fact that this article exists & making it sound like it's a new thing is stupid & seems like it's propaganda.

///is a medical biller
///doesn't work the denials though
 
2009-09-13 02:14:50 PM
fark the person that takes this, karmic debt will follow.
 
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