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(Spaceflight Now)   Heads up, Cali - the space shuttle is diverting to Edwards AFB - Discovery landing scheduled for 5:53pm PST   (spaceflightnow.com ) divider line 514
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2009-09-11 05:56:04 PM  
I have to admit, there's something to landings at Edwards. Probably because I can remember the landing for the first Shuttle mission as a little kid and what a big deal it was.
 
2009-09-11 05:57:20 PM  
strothgar: I heard ORD

Oh god that would be hilarious "Now arriving at gate 10...11...12...13...."
 
2009-09-11 05:57:38 PM  
"This just in, Space Shuttle Discovery has just been located after having been reported missing since its landing this evening. It was immediately believed to be theft. Discovery was found behind a local 7-11 in the Watts Neighborhood. The shuttle was found sitting on cinder blocks after all 3 sets of wheels were removed, along with the radio system the astronauts use to communicate with mission control on the ground. All other scientific equipment was found intact. Police are baffled as to why such expensive equipment would have been looked over in the process of the theft."
 
2009-09-11 05:58:07 PM  
I just moved out here to Palmdale, which is right next to Edwards. At the start of summer, the first day I was here, I was moving stuff out of the U-Haul, and the shuttle flew over and did it's sonic boom stuff. It'll be fun to actually know it's coming this time.

So I'm getting a real kick out of these replies, etc.
 
2009-09-11 05:58:30 PM  

linky: Are you sure about Edwards? I heard it was diverting to KMYF.


I heard it was diverting to KMFDM
 
rwp
2009-09-11 05:59:52 PM  
Still makes me mad I never got to see it land when I practically lived at EAFB for a year.
 
2009-09-11 06:01:00 PM  

exick: So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.

Is there anything worth going to Oxnard for?


Personally I find Oxnard to be Mexico City-by-the-sea....
 
2009-09-11 06:01:11 PM  

davidphogan: exick: Is there anything worth going to Oxnard for?

There's an In-N-Out burger there. That's about it.


Oxnard, more than just a pretty name!
 
2009-09-11 06:02:07 PM  

Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.


Durrr. It's close to the equator.

Oh, damnit. Successful troll is successful.
 
2009-09-11 06:02:38 PM  

Rodeodoc: 2024 GMT (4:24 p.m. EDT)
The left-hand door has been shut.

Thanks for doing that guys. Sorry I forgot to close it when you left.


Were you born in an elevator?
 
2009-09-11 06:02:51 PM  

redqueenmeg: Oh, and California is no longer on Daylight Savings Time?


We can't afford it anymore due to budget concerns and all that stuff.

/It's another 'Furlough Friday' for State workers
 
2009-09-11 06:03:09 PM  

ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.


Another interesting point is that NASA still has facilities all over the USA (the others described why KSC is where it is). When you consider the Johnson Space Center being in Clear Lake just south of Houston, Huntsville, Ames, etc, etc the answer is politics but totally logical. If you are NASA and you have to go begging Congress for lotza money, you need to have facilities in some pretty strong Legislative voting states.
 
2009-09-11 06:03:35 PM  
How doth the hero strong and brave, a celestial path in the heavens pave.

...


Uh... go, Discovery, go.
 
2009-09-11 06:03:59 PM  

Pashc: I just moved out here to Palmdale, which is right next to Edwards. At the start of summer, the first day I was here, I was moving stuff out of the U-Haul, and the shuttle flew over and did it's sonic boom stuff. It'll be fun to actually know it's coming this time.

So I'm getting a real kick out of these replies, etc.


The trade off that is living in Palmdale is not worth it though. Primo Burger is pretty good though.
 
2009-09-11 06:04:42 PM  

IC Stars: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Ahh -- the question that gets asked and answered in every Fark Shuttle thread!


I thought why do we spend money on the space program was the question...
 
2009-09-11 06:05:36 PM  

IQ7ZuuIU: redqueenmeg: Oh, and California is no longer on Daylight Savings Time?

We can't afford it anymore due to budget concerns and all that stuff.

/It's another 'Furlough Friday' for State workers


SO they had Monday off for Labor Day then a 3 day work week then another 3 day weekend? No cut in benefits-I'll take a Furlough Friday!
 
2009-09-11 06:05:45 PM  

moops: linky: Are you sure about Edwards? I heard it was diverting to KMYF.

I heard it was diverting to KMFDM



they just changed it to EABOD
 
2009-09-11 06:05:53 PM  

Foaming: According to the sonic boom maps the 5:53 landing goes right over LA.


That is awesome.
 
2009-09-11 06:06:00 PM  

IQ7ZuuIU: redqueenmeg: Oh, and California is no longer on Daylight Savings Time?

We can't afford it anymore due to budget concerns and all that stuff.

/It's another 'Furlough Friday' for State workers


Is that the one where they pay you overtime the next week to make up the lost time even though you work four 10s and don't work Fridays anyway? Or is that more of a County Worker thing?
 
2009-09-11 06:06:06 PM  

Kaka: ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.

Another interesting point is that NASA still has facilities all over the USA (the others described why KSC is where it is). When you consider the Johnson Space Center being in Clear Lake just south of Houston, Huntsville, Ames, etc, etc the answer is politics but totally logical. If you are NASA and you have to go begging Congress for lotza money, you need to have facilities in some pretty strong Legislative voting states.


Actually the real reason why The Space Center is where it is in the Houston metro ares its its proximity to the Shipping Docks and the Inter coastal waterway (AKA Houston Ship Channel). That and the land was retardedly cheap and worth damn near nothing.

/Grandfather was one of the founding members of NASA
//He was an accountant not an astronaut
///Yes I get all his awesome NASA stuff when he goes
 
2009-09-11 06:06:17 PM  
Sonic boom time.. Too bad it's cloudy out though, probably won't be able to see it.

davidphogan: But Wait There's More: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.h t ml

So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.


I didn't open the link, but judging by the map, that looks like it's going over the South Bay, not Oxnard. That jutting piece of land that the flight path hits land with looks to be the Palos Verdes Peninsula, not Ventura County
 
2009-09-11 06:07:09 PM  
Reverend Otis: Smokey...you are about to enter a world of hurt.

+1 for coming up with that reference.

/Favorite line: That chicano can roll man! "Nobody farks With the Jesus"
 
2009-09-11 06:07:17 PM  

Maximum Snark: "This just in, Space Shuttle Discovery has just been located after having been reported missing since its landing this evening. It was immediately believed to be theft. Discovery was found behind a local 7-11 in the Watts Neighborhood. The shuttle was found sitting on cinder blocks after all 3 sets of wheels were removed, along with the radio system the astronauts use to communicate with mission control on the ground. All other scientific equipment was found intact. Police are baffled as to why such expensive equipment would have been looked over in the process of the theft."


I giggled
 
2009-09-11 06:07:28 PM  

exick: So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.

Is there anything worth going to Oxnard for?


Pepes on Silverstrand Beach....
 
2009-09-11 06:08:21 PM  

bhcompy: Sonic boom time.. Too bad it's cloudy out though, probably won't be able to see it.

davidphogan: But Wait There's More: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.h t ml

So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.

I didn't open the link, but judging by the map, that looks like it's going over the South Bay, not Oxnard. That jutting piece of land that the flight path hits land with looks to be the Palos Verdes Peninsula, not Ventura County


Yes, usually they come in from north of Santa Barbara. I wonder what will happen with all the LAX traffic that should be in the area?
 
2009-09-11 06:09:04 PM  
all the Nassholes will start jerking off in T minus 15 minutes and counting......


Nasa is ok, but the thought of Big Business using Public money to frkkkk around in space, yet steal all the profits derived from space technology/exploration does wear on me.

NEAT set up. the Public pays the Costs/risks.

and Big Business reaps all the profits!!!

man, America is the Greatest!!
 
2009-09-11 06:09:34 PM  

bhcompy: Sonic boom time.. Too bad it's cloudy out though, probably won't be able to see it.

davidphogan: But Wait There's More: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.h t ml

So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.

I didn't open the link, but judging by the map, that looks like it's going over the South Bay, not Oxnard. That jutting piece of land that the flight path hits land with looks to be the Palos Verdes Peninsula, not Ventura County


I haven't heard a sonic boom in ages! I hope it's still supersonic over burbank
 
2009-09-11 06:09:42 PM  

WhaTheFarkWazThat: exick: So you'd need to be in Oxnard to see it really well? That's not worth it.

Is there anything worth going to Oxnard for?

Pepes on Silverstrand Beach....


A-1 Massage Spa off Saviers?
 
2009-09-11 06:09:58 PM  

Linux_Yes: all the Nassholes will start jerking off in T minus 15 minutes and counting......


Nasa is ok, but the thought of Big Business using Public money to frkkkk around in space, yet steal all the profits derived from space technology/exploration does wear on me.

NEAT set up. the Public pays the Costs/risks.

and Big Business reaps all the profits!!!

man, America is the Greatest!!



nobody does "Socialism" like America!!
 
2009-09-11 06:10:08 PM  
BasqueBastard 2009-09-11 05:45:07 PM

ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.

Why not the Brownsville area of Texas then? Or Homestead AFB? If they were serious about the added equatorial boost, it'd be as far south as possible.


You are kidding right? Do you know how many taco vendors they'd have to kick off the runway and launch pad? And then Guvner GoodHair is now down there posing with the National Guard while hunting wetbacks, chulpacabres, and the real shooter (he knows Chaney didn't really do it from the grassy sendero).
 
2009-09-11 06:10:44 PM  

bhcompy: Sonic boom time..



We like the shuttle
The shuttle that goes 'BOOM'
We're Tigra and Bunny and we like the boom.
 
2009-09-11 06:11:48 PM  

BasqueBastard: Why not the Brownsville area of Texas then? Or Homestead AFB? If they were serious about the added equatorial boost, it'd be as far south as possible.


Safety concerns during launch, as well as established tracking facilities, made an over water launch more attractive.

Link (new window)


/unfortunately neglecting safety concerns while landing allowed Texans to enjoy the space program raining down on their heads.
 
2009-09-11 06:11:52 PM  
So, it's landing at "5:53pm PST"? Considering we are currently using PDT, that would be 6:53pm local time in Cali?

Just call it 5:53pm PT if you don't know your times.

/Time Nazi
 
2009-09-11 06:11:54 PM  

Linux_Yes: all the Nassholes will start jerking off in T minus 15 minutes and counting......


Nasa is ok, but the thought of Big Business using Public money to frkkkk around in space, yet steal all the profits derived from space technology/exploration does wear on me.

NEAT set up. the Public pays the Costs/risks.

and Big Business reaps all the profits!!!

man, America is the Greatest!!


I know this is a troll, but I am going to nibble...

You do know that NASA has produced WAY more than just the Space Program right? A great deal of the technologies you take for granted right now were based completely on NASA scientific research and NASA products made for space travel and research.

Ever since the space program got the big axe in their budget, the went from focusing on space travel to doing more scientific research here on earth.

They have labs all over the country...

/end feeding the troll
 
2009-09-11 06:12:47 PM  
I used to work air traffic there. :)
 
2009-09-11 06:13:40 PM  

schattenteufel: Equatorial proximity.


Let me acknowledge you that you got that right.

/no that it's gonna earn you a brownie point.
 
2009-09-11 06:15:28 PM  

Maximum Snark: Kaka: ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.

Another interesting point is that NASA still has facilities all over the USA (the others described why KSC is where it is). When you consider the Johnson Space Center being in Clear Lake just south of Houston, Huntsville, Ames, etc, etc the answer is politics but totally logical. If you are NASA and you have to go begging Congress for lotza money, you need to have facilities in some pretty strong Legislative voting states.

Actually the real reason why The Space Center is where it is in the Houston metro ares its its proximity to the Shipping Docks and the Inter coastal waterway (AKA Houston Ship Channel). That and the land was retardedly cheap and worth damn near nothing.

/Grandfather was one of the founding members of NASA
//He was an accountant not an astronaut
///Yes I get all his awesome NASA stuff when he goes


When I was working there, I was told the story was that LBJ's wife Claudia was a realtor and that the deal for the land was run through the Good Ole Boys.

Either way, the spread your facilities over important states (not to mention the VP at the time's prowling grounds) plan worked and, to a certain degree still does.
 
2009-09-11 06:16:34 PM  

Linux_Yes: Linux_Yes: all the Nassholes will start jerking off in T minus 15 minutes and counting......

Nasa is ok, but the thought of Big Business using Public money to frkkkk around in space, yet steal all the profits derived from space technology/exploration does wear on me.

NEAT set up. the Public pays the Costs/risks.

and Big Business reaps all the profits!!!

man, America is the Greatest!!

nobody does "Socialism" like America!!


You know how I know you're a troll? (Hint: Posting in all bold, then agreeing with yourself is a starter...)
 
2009-09-11 06:18:49 PM  
"Landing time on the first opportunity will be 5:53pm this evening, with a second at 7:28pm. The track of the first landing would take it over the Palos Verde Peninsula, and across the populated zones of Downtown Los Angeles."

ha! I live on the Palos Verde Peninsula.
 
2009-09-11 06:19:19 PM  

Harry_Seldon: gshepnyc: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

To be close to the equator but able to ascend east (to take advantage of the Earth's spin) without being over populated areas. Hawaii and other Pacific islands were out because they were too remote and removed from suppliers and contractors.

It's too bad we didn't make Cuba into the 51st45th state when we had the chance.


FTFY.

/well, our initial chance.
//I didn't know until looking it up that OK,NM, and AZ weren't states until the 20th Century.
 
2009-09-11 06:19:25 PM  

rickythepenguin: bhcompy: Sonic boom time..


We like the shuttle
The shuttle that goes 'BOOM'
We're Tigra and Bunny and we like the boom.


Blech.

Le Tigre sucks.
What a truly awful "band".
 
2009-09-11 06:20:13 PM  
I live in Woodland Hills and sometimes you can see the shuttle coming over the Pacific. However with all the smoke in the air we won't be able to see shiat.

To get a good clear view I would need to go to Lancaster *SHUDDER*. I don't want to see it that bad.
 
2009-09-11 06:20:22 PM  

pudding7: "Landing time on the first opportunity will be 5:53pm this evening, with a second at 7:28pm. The track of the first landing would take it over the Palos Verde Peninsula, and across the populated zones of Downtown Los Angeles."

ha! I live on the Palos Verde Peninsula.


Lucky!
 
2009-09-11 06:20:59 PM  

Kaka: Maximum Snark: Kaka: ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.

Another interesting point is that NASA still has facilities all over the USA (the others described why KSC is where it is). When you consider the Johnson Space Center being in Clear Lake just south of Houston, Huntsville, Ames, etc, etc the answer is politics but totally logical. If you are NASA and you have to go begging Congress for lotza money, you need to have facilities in some pretty strong Legislative voting states.

Actually the real reason why The Space Center is where it is in the Houston metro ares its its proximity to the Shipping Docks and the Inter coastal waterway (AKA Houston Ship Channel). That and the land was retardedly cheap and worth damn near nothing.

/Grandfather was one of the founding members of NASA
//He was an accountant not an astronaut
///Yes I get all his awesome NASA stuff when he goes

When I was working there, I was told the story was that LBJ's wife Claudia was a realtor and that the deal for the land was run through the Good Ole Boys.

Either way, the spread your facilities over important states (not to mention the VP at the time's prowling grounds) plan worked and, to a certain degree still does.


The "spread your facilities all over important states" was more involved than just greasing the pockets of senators who kissed LBJ's butt. Yes, there was some Good Ole Boy network dealings involved with securing the land and such. But the spreading out of the facilities was a strategic decision in case of a nuclear strike from the then USSR. NASA actually has a number of functional Mission Controls just in case something like this ever happens. I am not sure if they still work as I moved away quite some time ago, but from what Grandpa told me, they kept the others in perfect working condition just in case the nightmare ever happened.

/He also told me some other amazing NASA stories and such
//No they didnt find aliens in area 51
///Yes I could throw a rock and hit the Space Center where I grew up
 
2009-09-11 06:22:59 PM  

Linux_Yes: all the Nassholes will start jerking off in T minus 15 minutes and counting......


Nasa is ok, but the thought of Big Business using Public money to frkkkk around in space, yet steal all the profits derived from space technology/exploration does wear on me.

NEAT set up. the Public pays the Costs/risks.

and Big Business reaps all the profits!!!

man, America is the Greatest!!


I am pretty sure Dell has a link for you to give back your PC as it was invented during by the space program with your money. The Dell Corporation apologizes and will give you back the profits they stole from you.

/I know feeding a troll is dumb but...hell I feel snippy!
 
2009-09-11 06:27:21 PM  

Blowmonkey: Cyborg77: I hear the shuttle is traveling at 18 times the speed of light.


That's almost as accurate as there being gunfire on the Patomic river today.

/rock on CNN
 
2009-09-11 06:28:00 PM  

Maximum Snark: NASA actually has a number of functional Mission Controls just in case something like this ever happens.


If you can take out either white sands or Goddard, all goes kaboon!

...Ok I lied. As long as you can find a creative way to lock on and communicate via antennae with a space craft, I suppose you can resume space operations. Not that I believe NASA today is willing to do that.
 
2009-09-11 06:29:26 PM  
linky:Are you sure about Edwards? I heard it was diverting to KMYF.


I heard they changed it to Leicester Square.
 
2009-09-11 06:33:46 PM  

helioquake: Maximum Snark: NASA actually has a number of functional Mission Controls just in case something like this ever happens.

If you can take out either white sands or Goddard, all goes kaboon!

...Ok I lied. As long as you can find a creative way to lock on and communicate via antennae with a space craft, I suppose you can resume space operations. Not that I believe NASA today is willing to do that.


Sure, If you mind the astronauts flying that bird with the stick. The computer link between MC/Shuttle is MUY IMPORTANTE. The damn thing nearly flys itself, but that doesn't stop it from blowing up on occasion.

They do not call the shuttle the "brick with wings" for nothing.

/about the only accurate thing in "Space Cowboys"
//OLD PEOPLE IN SPACE... BRILLIANT!
 
2009-09-11 06:36:36 PM  

Maximum Snark: Kaka: Maximum Snark: Kaka: ninjakirby: Sgt Otter: I have no idea why they put Kennedy Space Center in Florida. They have incredibly shiatty weather all the time, and are always delaying launches.

Because most other locations would put their rockets over populated areas during flight, instead of out over the ocean. We don't like big burning piles of debris falling on us, so as a safety precaution it is located in Florida.

Another interesting point is that NASA still has facilities all over the USA (the others described why KSC is where it is). When you consider the Johnson Space Center being in Clear Lake just south of Houston, Huntsville, Ames, etc, etc the answer is politics but totally logical. If you are NASA and you have to go begging Congress for lotza money, you need to have facilities in some pretty strong Legislative voting states.

Actually the real reason why The Space Center is where it is in the Houston metro ares its its proximity to the Shipping Docks and the Inter coastal waterway (AKA Houston Ship Channel). That and the land was retardedly cheap and worth damn near nothing.

/Grandfather was one of the founding members of NASA
//He was an accountant not an astronaut
///Yes I get all his awesome NASA stuff when he goes

When I was working there, I was told the story was that LBJ's wife Claudia was a realtor and that the deal for the land was run through the Good Ole Boys.

Either way, the spread your facilities over important states (not to mention the VP at the time's prowling grounds) plan worked and, to a certain degree still does.

The "spread your facilities all over important states" was more involved than just greasing the pockets of senators who kissed LBJ's butt. Yes, there was some Good Ole Boy network dealings involved with securing the land and such. But the spreading out of the facilities was a strategic decision in case of a nuclear strike from the then USSR. NASA actually has a number of functional Mission Controls just in case something like this ever happens. I am not sure if they still work as I moved away quite some time ago, but from what Grandpa told me, they kept the others in perfect working condition just in case the nightmare ever happened.

/He also told me some other amazing NASA stories and such
//No they didnt find aliens in area 51
///Yes I could throw a rock and hit the Space Center where I grew up


I appreciate and understand your comments. Were this a forum where we could have a normal conversation I would love to discuss it at length as like you, it is a passion of mine...alas this is FARK.

Regarding your comments on redundant MCC's - I know for a fact this capability is most DEFINITELY still there and working nicely - so that is very good.

Regarding Grooms Lake - I thought that is were they took the dead and dying aliens rather than finding them there : ))))))
 
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