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(National Review)   National Endowment for the Arts, caught unethically using taxpayers dollars to encourage potential grant recipients to engage in political activism, now refusing to return media inquiries   (corner.nationalreview.com) divider line 195
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2009-09-10 12:27:57 PM
You know, trying to follow the links toward any sort of verifiable, legitimate content regarding this article is a little like plummeting down a rabbit hole.
 
2009-09-10 12:33:55 PM
Did they ask kids to stay in school or something?
 
2009-09-10 12:39:06 PM
Why is that unethical?
 
2009-09-10 12:41:08 PM
Let me add National Endowment for the Arts.

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefor, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable except FNC
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
National Endowment for the Arts
 
2009-09-10 12:49:11 PM
I doubt they had to lobby too hard.
 
2009-09-10 12:49:54 PM
YOU LIE

/proof or gtfo
 
2009-09-10 01:09:20 PM
They obviously confused the National Endowment for the Arts with the Nannie's Esperanto Alliance. Same initials, I know. But the Nannie's Esperanto Alliance does this kind of shiat all the time, and no one ever calls them on it. It's about time someone did, unfortunately I think National Review is staffed by a bunch of mutton-brained conservatives. Oh well.
 
2009-09-10 01:11:22 PM
jwa007: I think National Review is staffed by a bunch of mutton-brained conservatives.

The sheep are going to get you for that insult.
 
2009-09-10 01:11:54 PM
Pocket Ninja: You know, trying to follow the links toward any sort of verifiable, legitimate content regarding this article is a little like plummeting down a rabbit hole.

Here, let me help you...

1. The invitation to the conference call, along with a list of the Government Agencies involved. (Google Cache, the original has been 404'd. Also, ResurrectPage is a great FF add-on.)

2. The flyer for the project the artists were asked to promote. (Americans for the Arts)

3. Courrielche's account of the conference call.

4. Memos recieved by Courrielche from the NEA and submitted designs from one of its grant applicants, RockTheVote.

Barbigazi: Why is that unethical?

Not unethical, illegal.
 
2009-09-10 01:18:13 PM
Boy, between the earlier Reagan thread and this NEA thing, I'm getting really nostalgic for the 80s.
 
2009-09-10 01:22:29 PM
MasterThief:

Thanks!

This is almost as disgusting as the NEA supporting war through their Soldiers Tell Their Stories project. I remember all the conservative outrage directed toward that, so hopefully this will be the final straw that brings down this abomination of a Federal agency.
 
2009-09-10 01:35:20 PM
Yes, it's true, the NEA is conspiring with PBS to beam away all of our freedoms with their negative waves, leaving us to dwell in a country where all public spaces are festooned with "artistic" depictions of Jesus shooting penises out of his mouth, and we'll all have to wear itchy Karl Marx beards.
 
2009-09-10 01:38:47 PM
Cagey B: Yes, it's true, the NEA is conspiring with PBS to beam away all of our freedoms with their negative waves, leaving us to dwell in a country where all public spaces are festooned with "artistic" depictions of Jesus shooting penises out of his mouth, and we'll all have to wear itchy Karl Marx beards.

You say that like it is a bad thing.
 
2009-09-10 01:41:02 PM
You know PBS and NPR are remarkably non-partisan, considering how the Republicans want to destroy them.
 
2009-09-10 01:46:30 PM
www.bmorenews.com

Approves.
 
2009-09-10 01:53:08 PM
Pocket Ninja: Thanks!

This is almost as disgusting as the NEA supporting war through their Soldiers Tell Their Stories project. I remember all the conservative outrage directed toward that, so hopefully this will be the final straw that brings down this abomination of a Federal agency.


You're one of the funniest Farkers around, but seriously, take a look at this book, or these excerpts, (the results of the project you were talking about) and tell me where exactly in them you see partisan political activities in support of or in opposition to a candidate, policy, or proposed legislation.

Now go back and take a look at the links in my Boobies, particularly the one with the proposed designs. Not quite the same thing.
 
2009-09-10 01:55:01 PM
...and of course I forget about that filter. :\
 
2009-09-10 01:59:13 PM
impaler: You know PBS and NPR are remarkably non-partisan, considering how the Republicans want to destroy them.

"Not overtly supportive of GOP" = "pinko" to a lot of these people. I guess that's what drives them to make things like Conservapedia.
 
2009-09-10 02:05:13 PM
You know PBS and NPR are remarkably non-partisan

NPR isn't. But one's BS Meter needs to be pretty sharp to see it. I don't fault you regular Joes for thinking otherwise.
 
2009-09-10 02:05:31 PM
The amount of money that the NEA has cost the taxpayers in litigation may be greater than the amount of money that it has given to artists.
 
2009-09-10 02:06:32 PM
I Said:

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefor, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
. . .
National Endowment for the Arts


You missed NPR. Car Talk is down right socialistic.
 
2009-09-10 02:08:10 PM
impaler: You know PBS and NPR are remarkably non-partisan.

Really? Did you listen to NPR during the election?
 
2009-09-10 02:08:54 PM
MasterThief: illegal.

I didn't see anything illegal. Certainly nothing on par with the attorney hiring of 'good bushies' which was custom made for the Hatch act.
 
2009-09-10 02:10:13 PM
Cozret: Car Talk is down right socialistic.

And those two commie hippies frequently recommend furrin cars instead of good mericun cars.
 
2009-09-10 02:11:13 PM
Sgt Otter: Approves.

Haven't seen you in awhile. Welcome back!
 
2009-09-10 02:13:36 PM
Does the guy that wrote that article not understand what an independent agency is?
 
2009-09-10 02:13:46 PM
Really? Did you listen to NPR during the election?

Good point.
 
2009-09-10 02:14:17 PM
Paint us more glorious posters, comrades!

i28.tinypic.com
 
2009-09-10 02:14:18 PM
How long until we get a story about how Dungeons and Dragons brainwash our children into joining cults.

I read the dude's blog posting and all I can find if "OMG, the NEA is promoting social change! That is not what the arts are all about!"
 
2009-09-10 02:15:33 PM
GameSprocket: How long until we get a story about how Dungeons and Dragons brainwash our children into joining cults.

I read the dude's blog posting and all I can find if "OMG, the NEA is promoting social change! That is not what the arts are all about!"


not publicly funded arts.
Not sure what publicly funded arts ARE all about actually.
 
2009-09-10 02:15:40 PM
Well if that don't just piss Christ off!
 
2009-09-10 02:17:05 PM
xtragrind: impaler: You know PBS and NPR are remarkably non-partisan.

Really? Did you listen to NPR during the election?


Is it their fault reality has a well known liberal bias? or that Republicans are really good at making themselves look dumb?
 
2009-09-10 02:17:14 PM
I Said: Let me add National Endowment for the Arts.

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefor, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable except FNC
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
National Endowment for the Arts


These are all puppet organization under the communisty organizing umbrella of ACORN.
 
2009-09-10 02:17:36 PM
MasterThief:

take a look at this book, or these excerpts, (the results of the project you were talking about) and tell me where exactly in them you see partisan political activities in support of or in opposition to a candidate, policy, or proposed legislation.

Now go back and take a look at the links in my Boobies, particularly the one with the proposed designs. Not quite the same thing.


Oh, I know. I've read it. And it's not partisan. Although I do have very clear memories of far-left liberal commentary being angry that it wasn't aggressively anti-war.

This program, the one talked about in the link, was a response to a presidential call to action. It's not one of the better conceived grant programs the NEA has ever sponsored, but it's hardly some illegal, conniving action.

Which won't matter one bit to those whose only real agenda is to discredit, destroy, and dismantle the entire NEA.
 
2009-09-10 02:18:05 PM
serve.artsusa.org

blog.nj.com
 
2009-09-10 02:19:46 PM
But...but...MAPPLETHORPE!!!!
 
2009-09-10 02:21:05 PM
Cagey B:
...and we'll all have to wear itchy Karl Marx beards.

I'm screwed. I still can't grow a decent beard. I end up looking like a wolverine with mange.

I still find the idea of government supported avant-garde art ridiculous. Fund the galleries and the museums. Let the artists figure out their own finances. Either that or give me $100,000 and I'll give you some avent-garde art...

/yes, it's made of poo. Why do you ask?
//higher meaning? IT'S MADE OF POO!
///If you don't get it, you obviously are completely out of touch with modern art.
////Why, yes I have a new 108" lcd tv, PS3 and Xbox360 and their entire game catalogs. Why do you ask?
 
2009-09-10 02:21:06 PM
Cozret: reality has a well known liberal bias


Especially when you look at the taxes that are taken out of your paycheck...
 
2009-09-10 02:21:41 PM
ACORN?

A bunch of nuts if you ask me...
 
2009-09-10 02:22:22 PM
Yeah, The entertainment industry is too small here in America. It makes perfect sense that we should continue to fund the arts with tax payer dollars. Afterall, there are no playhouses anywhere in America, no schools for the arts, and no outlet for writers, let alone any publishers; no outlets for musicians either. Why just the other day I had to turn off my radio, my tv, my bluray, my ipod, my iphone, and my mac so I could read a book. Instead, I should have been at the Opera, or watching some Kabuki or perhaps watching some Shakespeare performed in interpretative dance; and it should all be funded by the taxpayer.

Yeah, there is no outlet for the arts in America. Tax me some more please so we can ramp up the arts to where it "should" be. In politics.
 
2009-09-10 02:23:42 PM
Whats the big deal? I'm thinking of using my $60,000 a year federally subsidized student loans to make campaign contributions to dozens of federal candidates (my job pays enough for school).

Why would anybody have a problem using federal funds to support a political party?


...and sarcasm off
 
2009-09-10 02:23:42 PM
skullkrusher: GameSprocket: How long until we get a story about how Dungeons and Dragons brainwash our children into joining cults.

I read the dude's blog posting and all I can find if "OMG, the NEA is promoting social change! That is not what the arts are all about!"

not publicly funded arts.
Not sure what publicly funded arts ARE all about actually.


Yes, publicly funded art. In fact, that is why the arts are funded indirectly. If the government was directly giving grants to artists, the projects would wind up being some sort of boring stateist crap. It would look like St. Peter's Square or something.
 
2009-09-10 02:26:33 PM
Gato Negro: Cozret: reality has a well known liberal bias


Especially when you look at the taxes that are taken out of your paycheck...


Shut up Gato Negro, you cock.
 
2009-09-10 02:26:46 PM
YoMammaObama: Yeah, there is no outlet for the arts in America. Tax me some more please so we can ramp up the arts to where it "should" be. In politics.

No problem citizen. Just go to work tomorrow, assuming you have a job you worthless drain on resources, and ask to revise your W-4 and up your voluntary contribution to the government. When filling out your tax return just remember to check the NEA box and donate the full amount of your refund to the National Endowment for the Arts. And don't forget...Palin 2012, because the world is going to end anyway.
 
2009-09-10 02:27:05 PM
GameSprocket: Yes, publicly funded art. In fact, that is why the arts are funded indirectly. If the government was directly giving grants to artists, the projects would wind up being some sort of boring stateist crap. It would look like St. Peter's Square or something.

Museums, collectors and philanthropists could commission artists they enjoy or saw value in their work - others would remain 'starving' until they either succeeded or gave up.
 
2009-09-10 02:27:52 PM
Thanks to Glenn Beck for pointing this out!

From Huffingtonpost

Glenn Beck has struck again.

Yosi Sergant, who recently popped up on Beck's radar for his involvement in a conference call on national service, has been asked to resign as communications director by the National Endowment for the Arts, sources familiar with the move tell the Huffington Post.

At issue was an August conference call in which the NEA encouraged select artists to participate in an administration project dubbed "United We Serve" and led by the first lady.

Beck attacked Sergant and the NEA on his Fox News talk show, accusing the agency of propaganda efforts similar to those used by Nazi Germany. And now Sergant has been tossed overboard, making him Beck's second victim in his campaign to rid the administration of perceived radicals, socialists, communists, fascists, anarchists and all other manner of nefarious influences.
 
2009-09-10 02:28:25 PM
Now that's art.
 
2009-09-10 02:29:03 PM
jwa007: YoMammaObama: Yeah, there is no outlet for the arts in America. Tax me some more please so we can ramp up the arts to where it "should" be. In politics.

No problem citizen. Just go to work tomorrow, assuming you have a job you worthless drain on resources, and ask to revise your W-4 and up your voluntary contribution to the government. When filling out your tax return just remember to check the NEA box and donate the full amount of your refund to the National Endowment for the Arts. And don't forget...Palin 2012, because the world is going to end anyway.


someone is a "drain on resources" for thinking public funding for "the arts" is ludicrous?
Damn.
 
2009-09-10 02:32:19 PM
skullkrusher: someone is a "drain on resources" for thinking public funding for "the arts" is ludicrous?

Arts are ludicrous. Shut your goddamn hole, get to farking work, and stop acting like you have a reason to live beyond me employing you.
 
2009-09-10 02:33:23 PM
Lefty libs and misappropriation / corruption...

They go together like peas and carrots.


t1.gstatic.com
 
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