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(citation in link)   City uses wiki to let public help decide general plan, with predictable res...no wait, it works pretty well   (govtech.com) divider line 26
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2009-09-09 04:43:14 PM
Someone please alert 4chan immediately.

This will not end well.
 
2009-09-09 04:46:27 PM
I bet JD and Brown Bear would have done this.
 
2009-09-09 04:47:02 PM
Wrong thread, oh my
 
2009-09-09 04:48:10 PM
Came to see someone saying this will not survive 4chan.

/leaving satisfied, thread over in 1.
 
2009-09-09 04:48:19 PM
Furzt...noseconds...no wait...

Yeah-wiki planning for a gov. that makes sense.
 
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2009-09-09 04:49:44 PM
The novel Earthweb by Marc Stiegler is superficially about some cosmic distaster but actually designed to showcase the author's vision of a future where the net decides important issues.
 
2009-09-09 04:51:26 PM
No one else has managed a project in this way? Come on, you guys are a solid 3 years behind the curve
 
2009-09-09 04:54:23 PM
Hiro's Protagonist: No one else has managed a project in this way? Come on, you guys are a solid 3 years behind the curve

Says the sword-wielding hacker from the future.
 
2009-09-09 04:56:34 PM
So, anyone try to take the survey yet?
 
2009-09-09 05:03:37 PM
i mean if the SJ government didnt setup the site to only allow IP addressed from the SJ area, they are retarded. The easy next step is to identify San Jose Proxies and block those as well. Now unless 4chan or any other counter-culture group wants to ruin their planning, they either have to hack the site or all congregate in a starbucks in San Jose.
 
2009-09-09 05:06:29 PM
The Bilge Rat: Furzt...noseconds...no wait...

Yeah-wiki planning for a gov. that makes sense.


I thought about putting up a non-political healthcare wiki-planning site, just to see what the general public could come up with.

Unfortunately, I don't know how I could get past "non-political".
 
2009-09-09 05:11:06 PM
tforbes: i mean if the SJ government didnt setup the site to only allow IP addressed from the SJ area, they are retarded. The easy next step is to identify San Jose Proxies and block those as well. Now unless 4chan or any other counter-culture group wants to ruin their planning, they either have to hack the site or all congregate in a starbucks in San Jose.

Or get one person to set up a proxy at a starbucks in san jose.
 
2009-09-09 05:14:02 PM
I logged into the site, and sadly there doesn't seem to be any good, immediate way we can add our imaginative plans to help the good people of San Jose.
 
2009-09-09 05:14:33 PM
Hiro's Protagonist: No one else has managed a project in this way? Come on, you guys are a solid 3 years behind the curve

This isn't "a project". It's a major city's general plan. They're usually crafted by bureaucrats in local businesses' pockets.
 
2009-09-09 05:23:52 PM
Slightly off-topic, but has anyone used TiddlyWiki yet? It's a one-file persistent wiki that runs entirely in the browser, in Javascript. I've got one set up for my apartment, with local delivery joints, wireless access info and other tidbits useful for myself and guests. If you've been thinking about setting up a wiki for your home or project, try it, it's so simple and awesome.
 
2009-09-09 05:49:20 PM
I'll admit that in college, I had a boss/mentor guy, one of the old-beard Unix dudes, who was going on and on about how wikis are going to change a lot of websites and how it was totally new and awesome, and he implemented one that us support kids could use.

I thought it was pretty silly and rife with possibilities to destroy, and although I was right (in a small environment, there's far less of a chance for self policing), I was totally wrong about it not taking off.

/then again, he also said that Plan9 from Bell Labs would be the OS of the future
 
2009-09-09 05:50:52 PM
GardenWeasel: The Bilge Rat: Furzt...noseconds...no wait...

Yeah-wiki planning for a gov. that makes sense.

I thought about putting up a non-political healthcare wiki-planning site, just to see what the general public could come up with.

Unfortunately, I don't know how I could get past "non-political".


Translation: I don't want people who disagree with me...political bastards.

/kidding, sort of
 
2009-09-09 05:54:27 PM
Hiro's Protagonist: ...They're usually crafted by bureaucrats in local businesses' pockets.

They're usually crafted by consultants, who in turn shield the bureaucrats.
 
2009-09-09 05:56:58 PM
FTFA: Ryan Harris told us, from their experience, how important it is to offer incentives to drive participation in the first place. So instead of offering cash, we wanted to use it as an opportunity to promote our arts and culture organizations here. We asked them if they would donate tickets, subscriptions and passes -- and they all did.

That's pretty cool actually. I imagine budgeting for prize money isn't easy and this is a clever solution.
 
2009-09-09 06:19:39 PM
yet another step moving us closer to the All Thing

/very obscure
 
2009-09-09 06:46:01 PM
The Bilge Rat: Furzt...noseconds...no wait...

Yeah-wiki planning for a gov. that makes sense.


It is actually a good idea for planning. The main problem that planners face is that there isn't enough public participation. Basically the only people who show up to planning meetings are the ones who really support an issue and the ones who are extremely against it, so it is actually difficult to gauge how the majority of the population feel about it.

Something like this is a great way to get more people involved in the planning process and I look forward to seeing how successful this ends up being.

/Graduate Urban Planning Student
 
2009-09-09 07:13:01 PM
pdkl95: yet another step moving us closer to the All Thing

/very obscure



How is the government of Iceland obscure?
 
2009-09-09 07:31:40 PM
Queuebert: GardenWeasel: The Bilge Rat: Furzt...noseconds...no wait...

Yeah-wiki planning for a gov. that makes sense.

I thought about putting up a non-political healthcare wiki-planning site, just to see what the general public could come up with.

Unfortunately, I don't know how I could get past "non-political".

Translation: I don't want people who disagree with me...political bastards.

/kidding, sort of


Not really. Merging differing opinions into something solid would be the whole point. What I didn't have time for was moderating the inevitable flamewars.
 
2009-09-09 08:58:13 PM
I work at a state public affairs network(boring as C-SPAN? yes...) and the main problem with state gov is no input from anyone other than lobbyists and crazies. We are playing with remote video testimony and "email your question" senate cmtes and this is a great means for public participation. I hope it catches on elsewhere.

/i say public internet voting on every bill that is introduced
//put some elected officials out of work
///direct democracy ftw
 
2009-09-09 09:35:23 PM
Jeff73: How is the government of Iceland obscure?

reference
 
2009-09-10 01:47:19 AM
pdkl95: Jeff73: How is the government of Iceland obscure?

reference



Suggest editing that reference to include the words "All Thing" because they don't currently exist and that's too much to read about a book I haven't read.
 
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