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(NPR)   Some spaz has started a moronic campaign to make the term "retarded" into hate speech and get it bleeped off the airwaves. But even Dan Savage thinks he's a pansy   (npr.org) divider line 301
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2009-09-08 04:47:47 PM
That's gay.
 
2009-09-08 04:52:15 PM
Lot's of tards lead perfectly good lives...
 
2009-09-08 04:52:43 PM
Retard is a french word that means late. Why does this man hate the language of love?
 
2009-09-08 04:54:01 PM
FTFA: E. Duff Wrobbel never gave the word much thought - until his daughter was born with Down syndrome.

Even the guy's name sounds retarded.
 
2009-09-08 05:01:01 PM
What the hell does the E stand for if he's willing to go by his middle name?
 
2009-09-08 05:06:13 PM
Nogrhi: Lot's of tards lead perfectly good lives...

This. Here's a great example (new window)


Anyways, so retarded is out. I'll just start saying stuff like 'that was really down syndrome' and see if anyone cares
 
2009-09-08 05:08:24 PM
aden_nak: What the hell does the E stand for if he's willing to go by his middle name?

Eggsack.
 
2009-09-08 05:09:47 PM
And then if your timing is over-advanced, you'll just have to buy premium.
 
2009-09-08 05:13:48 PM
When will he realize that life goes on?
 
2009-09-08 05:18:57 PM
img7.imageshack.us
Wrobbel, Wrobbel.
 
2009-09-08 05:32:00 PM
He's right. We shouldn't use that word anymore. But we can't go cold turkey. We need to find a way to...to...what's another word for "slow down the use or growth" of something?
 
2009-09-08 05:51:15 PM
My half-brother was actually retarded, so I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

He died of cancer in his 20's to boot.
 
2009-09-08 05:55:32 PM
I work with retarded kids.

They're retarded.

I'm not sure what the problem with the word is. It implies significant limits to their cognitive abilities, compared to the average.

Weirdly enough, retarded kids are limited in their significant cognitive abilities compared to the average.

Is there some sinister meaning to 'retarded' I'm missing?
 
2009-09-08 05:58:18 PM
Obdicut:
Is there some sinister meaning to 'retarded' I'm missing?


People use it as an insult. This is shocking, as no person has ever before used words to imply another person is less than intelligent.

/Buncha dumbasses
 
2009-09-08 06:00:31 PM
Barakku: People use it as an insult. This is shocking, as no person has ever before used words to imply another person is less than intelligent.

Then it makes as much sense as bleeping the word 'ugly' or 'dumb' or 'smelly'.

Barakku: /Buncha dumbasses

Indeed, sir, you have put your finger on the nub of it.
 
2009-09-08 06:08:50 PM
Enrico Pallazzo: Here's a great example (new window)

nicely played.
 
2009-09-08 06:16:18 PM
This is really Trig.

\Just ask the Tick-Tock man.
 
2009-09-08 06:17:22 PM
It's retárd, retard.
 
2009-09-08 06:20:52 PM
This is relevant to my interests.
 
2009-09-08 06:25:04 PM
It's worth noting that the medical terms for people we now call "retarded" (and will call "intellectually disabled" in 2010 per DSMV) were "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile".

In other words, the medical term for these people is actually where these insults came from. How can we avoid that?
 
2009-09-08 06:29:10 PM
Obdicut: 'ugly' or 'dumb' or 'smelly'.

Well, there's really no common usage of any of those words to describe an actual malady ('dumb' is a synonym for 'mute' and everyone just uses that word now, which freed up 'dumb'), so those are fine.

'Retarded' DOES get commonly used to describe an actual malady, and in fact one that is present from birth. There are a million acceptable ways to insult someone. You don't need this one.
 
2009-09-08 06:33:55 PM
Gosling: 'Retarded' DOES get commonly used to describe an actual malady, and in fact one that is present from birth. There are a million acceptable ways to insult someone. You don't need this one.

That's not sufficient to restrict speech.

"retarded" does not describe an actual malady. It describes a whole bunch of conditions, some very different from each other. People can be retarded due to genetics, environment, physical damage, etc.

"Smelly" likewise is silent on cause. Smelly can be caused by a lot of different things. Some people who are smelly have no ability to change whether or not they're smelly.

I don't see any point in restricting this. What's it supposed to achieve?
 
2009-09-08 06:37:25 PM
Why don't we lift the negative connotation off of the word "discrimination"?
 
2009-09-08 06:40:54 PM
What, are you dense? Are you retarded or something?

/Goddamn.
 
2009-09-08 06:41:05 PM
Gosling: Well, there's really no common usage of any of those words to describe an actual malady ('dumb' is a synonym for 'mute' and everyone just uses that word now, which freed up 'dumb'), so those are fine.

Which has now happened to "retarded." So by that logic, it's fine.

You sound mentally challenged.

And as Gosling pointed out, the insult follows the medical term. Hence my quip in the preceding sentence.
 
2009-09-08 06:42:34 PM
media.npr.org

What a 'tard may look like.
 
2009-09-08 06:43:11 PM
Anyone who agrees with this douche is retarded.
 
2009-09-08 06:44:34 PM
LemSkroob: What a 'tard may look like.

Well, hopefully the kid won't turn out retarded too.
 
2009-09-08 06:44:40 PM
BUMMER
http://tinyurl.com/mzj8pb
(copy and paste)
 
2009-09-08 06:45:15 PM
Barbigazi : Retard is a french word that means late.

retardāre is "to delay"

You can be retarded, without actually becoming late.

I planned to get here 20 minutes ago, but just got here a minute ago because the train was retarded. Now I can't make a cup of tea before the meeting.
 
2009-09-08 06:45:29 PM
i189.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-08 06:45:58 PM
I try not to use it, but it's really hard to come up with a better word to describe the things that Sarah Palin says.
 
2009-09-08 06:46:16 PM
impaler: Which has now happened to "retarded." So by that logic, it's fine.

You sound mentally challenged.

And as Gosling pointed out, the insult follows the medical term. Hence my quip in the preceding sentence.


When the people who actually have had to deal with the medical term, directly or indirectly, are fine with it, then it's acceptable. You see the same thing with a host of derogatory terms.

We're not fine with it.
 
2009-09-08 06:46:17 PM
Calling someone "retarded" is more polite than calling someone a "window-licking spacker," but hey, no one's ever accused the langauge gestapo of being consistent, logical, or prone to thinking things through.
 
2009-09-08 06:46:32 PM
Do you all hear "retarded" on TV? I don't recall hearing it on TV shows, not on regular TV anyway.

And I'll keep using it anyway.
 
2009-09-08 06:46:55 PM
Retarded waves would like a word with him ...
 
2009-09-08 06:47:10 PM
What the hell is the organization ARC going to be renamed?
 
2009-09-08 06:47:19 PM
Don't worry, Scro; now there are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife...was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.
 
2009-09-08 06:47:21 PM
i194.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-08 06:47:45 PM
mattharvest: It's worth noting that the medical terms for people we now call "retarded" (and will call "intellectually disabled" in 2010 per DSMV) were "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile".

In other words, the medical term for these people is actually where these insults came from. How can we avoid that?


userserve-ak.last.fm
"Imbecile-n."
 
2009-09-08 06:47:57 PM
Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: E. Duff Wrobbel never gave the word much thought - until his daughter was born with Down syndrome.

Even the guy's name sounds retarded.


When asked for a follow-up comment on this story, Mr. E. Duff Wrobbel simply repeated "Whargarbl!" over and over until our intrepid reporter gave up, retreated then sent us an email including the development. He also noted the offhand realization that Duff was the name of the fictional beer preferred by Homer Simpson. We asked him what that had to do with anything. He has not responded.

/or I'm making this up
//but dang, that is a funny name
 
2009-09-08 06:47:57 PM
Mr. Chainsaw: I try not to use it, but it's really hard to come up with a better word to describe the things that Sarah Palin says.

What's a thesaurus for?
 
2009-09-08 06:48:08 PM
Never go full retard!
images.hollywood.com
 
2009-09-08 06:48:25 PM
Had an argument with someone about this a few weeks ago.
My point was that people are always going to find new and inventive ways of being mean, so just deal with it. Renaming things because people are essentially jerks is silly.

Their point was that the establishment keeps coming up with new longer descriptive terms because the old ones have gained acceptance as insults. Basically once it's used as an insult it's bad to use it as a descriptor.

I said that by abandoning the word for use as an insult it validates that use. Evolution of language is funny stuff.
Meh.
 
2009-09-08 06:48:32 PM
mattharvest: It's worth noting that the medical terms for people we now call "retarded" (and will call "intellectually disabled" in 2010 per DSMV) were "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile".

I propose a campaign against "idiotic", "moronic", and "imbecilic" as adjectives in common usage. No longer can you say:

"That's retarded."
"That's idiotic."
"That's moronic."
"That's imbecilic."

And of course you can't say "that's stupid", you have to say something like "I think there's an opportunity for improvement." Y'know, being all positive and shiat.

/"opportunity" is the most obnoxious euphemism ever
//it's a friggin' problem, just say so
 
2009-09-08 06:48:36 PM
How about "Gaytarded", or maybe an old-fashioned word or two like Feeb, Moron, Idiot, Cretin, Imbecile, Lame-brained, Numb-skull, Pretard, Slow, Simple, Stupid, Mongolian Idiot, Mongoloid, Defective, Dim, or Dull?
 
2009-09-08 06:49:22 PM
I don't think anyone who uses the term "lame" has any beef with cripples. The same applies to "retarded" and "gay" in most cases. Language and it's usage evolve, get over it.
 
2009-09-08 06:49:22 PM
mattharvest: It's worth noting that the medical terms for people we now call "retarded" (and will call "intellectually disabled" in 2010 per DSMV) were "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile".

In other words, the medical term for these people is actually where these insults came from. How can we avoid that?


You can't. Negative connotations will continue to chase the euphemism progression, because they describe negative things.
 
2009-09-08 06:49:35 PM
Wait wait I got a solution. Like when they dub over movies, they could put in another word e.g. republican.

/mother falcon
 
2009-09-08 06:49:41 PM
LemSkroob: What a 'tard may look like.
The Down's Syndrome kid at the top or the retarded hippie at the bottom?
 
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