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Drew calls out Keith Olbermann, and Fark's favorite Headlines of the Week for 8/30 - 9/5 
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Normally, I use this space to sort out the media trends in play, but last week during Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World segment, he called out "internet nerds" for starting a false internet rumor about Glenn Beck. Since it seemed to be aimed in Fark's general direction, I feel compelled to respond.

Mr. Olbermann, I am outraged. OUTRAGED, I tell you. *shakes fist*

It really is a dark day in American Politics when "internet nerds," as you call them, cannot simply make baseless, horrific allegations from thin air and then question the accused to respond. Although it appears to be standard operating procedure from some television people who happen to work for Fox and whose initials are G.B. and whose names might rhyme with "hen peck," it is perhaps a bit much for the internet community at large.

Oh sure, it's easy to throw lightning bolts from your Ivory Tower down upon our plebian hordes for something as benign as smearing the reputation of an esteemed colleague (even if he is a complete and utter dickwad) with the same techniques he uses on a regular basis to sway the opinions of people who apparently lack the critical thinking skills of carrots.

However, your response does merit consideration. In the light of the criticism, we'll take your advice and try to not propagate unsubstantiated rumors about huge, flaming dickwads like Glenn Beck and will instead focus on making fun of Glenn Beck for his ridiculous, real-life antics. Point taken.

Also, I still regret that we weren't able to make the number one slot, because yet again that went to Richard Lieberstein, president of your co-op board. We shot for #1, but we do know that Miss Precious Perfect is a hard act to follow.


Note, this response is satirical in nature. We do not mean to infer that Mr. Beck is actually a dickwad, huge dickwad, huge flaming dickwad, or unbelievably crass and ridiculous dickwad, even though everyone thinks he is.

Headlines Of The Week for Sun 2009-08-30 to Sat 2009-09-05:

img1.fark.net  Proving that a vegetarian lifestyle doesn't always work, Terry Schiavo's father dies of heart failure    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Fire officials in SoCal wildfires: "GTFO." Residents: "STFU." Fire: "NOM NOM NOM." Residents: "OMG." Fire department: "DIAF"    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Best-selling bible to be edited and re-released, will feature deleted commandments, digitally enhanced plagues, and Han casts the first stone    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  The Vatican issues a prayer for Catholics to say before sex. Apparently shouting, "Oh God" at the end of sex isn't enough    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Woman blows a .31 on the Breathalyzer. Also, up her car    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  70 years ago today, World War II began. Unless, of course, you're American - in which case you might want to green light this in two year's time (once you've decided who's likely to win)    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Ali Bongo drums up enough support to snare election victory, thanks his electoral bass for helping him ride to this cymbalic win    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  "Deputies: Woman Beats Mother With Candlestick." Was it in the library or the conservatory? No clue    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Woman slams into tractor trailer while driving and eating. She sounds flat    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Washington State park closed due to Cougar sighting. Officials plan to put up end-zone goalposts to get rid of it    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Ice cream factory burns down, firefighters expect to finally extinguish flames by sundae    img.fark.net


Sports:

img1.fark.net  Thai fighter retains WBC boxing title, is then mercilessly pursued by X-Wing, Y-Wing, and Millennium Falcon    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Daunte Culpepper sacked by living room carpet. Ladies and gentlemen, your 2009 Detroit Lions    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  17 year old toples Maria Sharapova    img.fark.net


Geek:

img1.fark.net  Andromeda galaxy growing by eating other nearby galaxies. Here comes the astronom-nom-nom-nomy    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Men with high IQ's have the healthiest sperm. Here come the scientists    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Researchers use YouTube to study brain injuries. Presumably by reading the user comments    img.fark.net


Showbiz:

img1.fark.net  Madonna and Jesus visit the holy land. This is not a repeat from 31    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Keanu Reeves agrees to take DNA test to prove he's not The One    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Whitney Houston's normally CRYSTALline voice goes to POT, CRACKs during performance, fueling speculation that she needs a new training METHod. No word on why it happened    img.fark.net


Politics:

img1.fark.net  R. Lee Ermey tells Birthers he's gonna give them three seconds, exactly three farking seconds, to square their stupid asses away and start shiatting him Tiffany cufflinks or he will gouge out their eyeballs and skull-fark them    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Palin joins forces with Glenn Beck. It's like Voltron, but retarded    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Obama spokesman criticizes furor over back-to-school speech, apparently failing to realize that you automatically lose an argument if you defend your position by criticizing the furor    img.fark.net


Music:

img1.fark.net  Brandon Flowers urges Oasis to reunite. World urges Brandon Flowers to shut the fark up    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Michael Jackson is finally being buried 70 days after his death, proving how well our current plastic products can withstand the elements    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Chris Brown recorded a song called "Changed Man" as an apology to Rihanna. It will be released on his next album, and is expected to be another big hit. Or maybe a succession of little hits    img.fark.net


Business:

img1.fark.net  Pfizer to pay $2.3 billion fine after pulling a major boner    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Gold surges toward the $1,000-an-ounce mark. Au sh*t    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Microsoft granted stay allowing it to keep selling Word while it appeals decision in favor of patent troll, thereby preventing dangerous shortages of Comic Sans-formatted memos in offices everywhere    img.fark.net
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2009-09-08 04:21:54 PM  
It's possible that Glenn Beck did not rape and kill a girl in 1990. He very well could have sodomized the corpse. We really don't know if Glenn Beck raped and killed a girl in 1990. The FBI has declined to comment that this was a work of a serial killer.
 
2009-09-08 04:22:02 PM  
rickythepenguin: Ehhh. it's just $5 bucks. TF isn't even worth it half the time. "OMG i just saw 'Inglorious Basterds' OMG let's talk about it....for the 700th time". or another thread over who the hottest / coolest / funniest / trolliest TFer/TFette is. no thanks.

It'll get better.. Im back.

I'll free Gorgor, release Basemetal, and ensure every friday has a right and goodly trainwreck that gets pulled by 5pm, and a free Thai ladyboy for everyone in their bed.

...Idbecrazyif... TF change you can believe in.
 
2009-09-08 04:22:10 PM  
The Girl Glenn Beck Murdered and Raped: Eh?

how the f*ck did I miss this gem?

much ♥
 
2009-09-08 04:23:09 PM  
img215.imageshack.us

The truth is out there?
 
2009-09-08 04:25:28 PM  
I'm very concerned with a lot of you, going on and on about whether or not Glen Beck may or may not have raped and killed a young girl almost 20 years ago.

The real news is that under Obamacare, massive numbers of the elderly will be killed THIS YEAR!!!!

Next to that horror, how can you all spend so much time obsessing over a single pundit's alleged rape and murder two decades ago.

There is no proof whatsoever that Glen Beck brutally bashed in the head of a sweet, innocent, mildly retarded young blonde girl after he finished raping her to death. Sure, he could put all this controversy to rest by releasing his arrest record, but why would he do that? You'd just say that if he was able to sweet-talk his way onto a prime-time slot, he's obviously smart enough to out-fox the local sheriffs in the interview room.

After all, it's hard to prosecute murder when there is no body. Because I've heard on certain internet blogs that after he finished raping and killing the girl, Glen Beck ate her body.

Allegedly.
 
2009-09-08 04:25:39 PM  
Somacandra: Gato Negro: Unlike the smug, sneering liberals of Fark.com, naturally.

You're a leftist troll trying to make conservatives look stupid. Low-hanging fruit, isn't it?


I'm a troll trying to help water look wet, so I get where he's coming from.
 
2009-09-08 04:26:33 PM  
The Durham police department has declined to comment if Glenn Beck is a person of interest in the rape and murder of a girl in 1990.
 
2009-09-08 04:30:34 PM  
at80eighty: how the f*ck did I miss this gem?

It never got greenlit. If you'd had TF...
 
2009-09-08 04:31:32 PM  
If Glenn Beck murdered the girl first, then it wouldn't be rape; merely desecration of a corpse.
 
2009-09-08 04:33:50 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: I am confused. Drew thinks it is okay to create false stories and then keep them going?

Someone should write a book about why that is a bad idea.


Page views are page views.
 
2009-09-08 04:34:39 PM  
Marla Singer's Laundry: KingKauff: Marla Singer's Laundry: Gato Negro: All I know is, the Glenn Beck show comes on in a few hours and it's the #1 show on cable news.

That's like winning the "Miss Auschwitz" pageant.

I am soooo stealing that line! Also, is it safe to say that Glenn Beck likes rape, murder, arson, and rape?

First he burns stuff. Then he ejaculates on/in it. He loves freedom.


Statements such as these are why you are on my favorites list Marla!
 
2009-09-08 04:37:12 PM  
I just wish Glenn Beck would release the documents clearing his name of the rape and murder of a little girl in 1990 and finally put these awful stories about his involvement in the rape and murder of a sweet little girl with liberal parents in 1990.
 
2009-09-08 04:38:39 PM  
I just want to know what we are supposed to tell our kids. When a prominent, respected cable news personality refuses to deny such serious allegations, what kind of message is that sending to the youth of America?
 
2009-09-08 04:39:30 PM  
Drew, come join us (new window).

It's good clean fun, I swear. And I can get you promoted over there. Just get in touch. I use the same name on both sites. If you don't want people to know who you are, that's cool - just send me a message - I'll keep your secret.
 
2009-09-08 04:41:00 PM  
jst3p: You win. FARK.com is unfairly biased against your political party.
This is true no matter which party you are a member of but feel free to continue to be outraged at the partisanship.


for the 3rd or 4th time:

I DID NOT SAY FARK IS BIASED!!!
I said on this it was being unfair. That is not the same.

Wow, you really ignore anything the doesn't fit your world view.
 
2009-09-08 04:41:24 PM  
unlikely: at80eighty: how the f*ck did I miss this gem?

It never got greenlit. If you'd had TF...


Wut
 
2009-09-08 04:43:54 PM  
Corvus: jst3p: You win. FARK.com is unfairly biased against your political party.
This is true no matter which party you are a member of but feel free to continue to be outraged at the partisanship.

for the 3rd or 4th time:

I DID NOT SAY FARK IS BIASED!!! I said on this it was being unfair. That is not the same.

Wow, you really ignore anything the doesn't fit your world view.


Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, especially when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.

Or, to put it in smaller words, bias is undue fairness towards one side. To deny fairness on a topic is to exhibit bias.
 
2009-09-08 04:44:29 PM  
Corvus: jst3p: You win. FARK.com is unfairly biased against your political party.
This is true no matter which party you are a member of but feel free to continue to be outraged at the partisanship.

for the 3rd or 4th time:

I DID NOT SAY FARK IS BIASED!!! I said on this it was being unfair. That is not the same.

Wow, you really ignore anything the doesn't fit your world view.


If he would just produce the documents showing his innocence this will all go away. Until then we are left to assume that he has something to hide.
 
2009-09-08 04:46:35 PM  
jst3p: You win. FARK.com is unfairly biased against your political party.
This is true no matter which party you are a member of but feel free to continue to be outraged at the partisanship.


Yeah that's exactly what I have been saying:


Corvus: By the way, I never said "this site is biased against my point of view," My point was they are being uneven on how the treat this.

Corvus: I think this site is not biased, but I think many things it does it unfair. Those are not the same things.

Reality has no factor about what you perceive does it?
 
2009-09-08 04:47:32 PM  
Once again the rumors that Glenn Beck roofied, sodomized and murdered a girl in 1990 are totally false.
 
2009-09-08 04:49:40 PM  
Police have declined to comment if Bill O'Riley is an accomplice in the gang rape and murder of a girl in 1990.
 
2009-09-08 04:50:12 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, especially when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.

Or, to put it in smaller words, bias is undue fairness towards one side. To deny fairness on a topic is to exhibit bias.


So then Obama is Biased towards the right because he listens to them even though he could pass things without them?

No sorry Bias does not mean what you are saying it means.

Bias means you have a predisposition to a side! That is not the same thing about how you treat that side.

You can be unbiased and still not be fair. You can also be Biased and be fair.

I know for someone like you that might be hard to understand but a lot of people treat others fairly that they do not agree with.
 
2009-09-08 04:51:17 PM  
jsobota: I just wish Glenn Beck would release the documents clearing his name of the rape and murder of a little girl in 1990 and finally put these awful stories about his involvement in the rape and murder of a sweet little girl with liberal parents in 1990.

Not only is Glenn Beck not releasing the documents, his lawyers are actively trying (via an underhanded WIPO filing (new window)) to silence this criticism without drawing any additional attention to it. Why is he spending money on lawyers to silence the questioners if he has nothing to hide?
 
2009-09-08 04:51:28 PM  
Poopspasm: tenpoundsofcheese: And yet seem to be okay with supporting this assault on Beck?

Number of people in this thread who don't understand what "assault" means: 1



besides yourself you mean? Here is one of the common definitions that will help you understand the meaning.

"attempt to destroy something: a campaign or series of actions that aims to challenge or destroy something"
 
2009-09-08 04:52:21 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Olbermann is just worried that somebody is going to uncover all the hamsters in his closet.


Horse Hockey. Olbermann is the first to say he made a mistake on air. he's about as open as is possible for a public persona.


but i admit that inventing stuff about people is a very slippery slope that can destract from all the REAl horrific shhhittt they are doing/saying. stooping to their level of invented shhhittt may not be the wisest thing to do.

its easy to invent crap about people. the difficult part is proving it and being able to support it with truth and facts AND to make it cause you to bust a gut laughing.


its fun to say stuff like 'Glenn "Pecker" Peck jerks off to saturday morning kid cartoons.' its funny, but not very likely. course if he did do it, i would not be in the least bit surprised. he comes across as someone who has many cobwebs upstairs.


the real Gems, the Real Gold is taking the actual, aburd, and mind numbingly stupid shhhitt these corporate paid talking heads spew and turning it into hilarious comedy. comedy that can wake you up at night laughing. Truth is almost always stranger and funnier than Fiction.

but i do defend 'internet nerds' for the Right to say anything they want as long as they are not threatening someone's life, or yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater, etc.

long live the U.S. Constitution and long live the Fark. and long live the Internet Nerds!


Drew - Account number 1.
that cracked me up in its simplicity and its harsh Reality. this is Drew's site and he is the Master of His Domain.

and no Olbermann or anyone else is going to say otherwise. Ownership Does have its privleges.
 
2009-09-08 04:52:36 PM  
ieldanth: gilgigamesh: Look, just because people claim Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990 doesn't mean he did rape and murder a sweet, innocent blonde girl in 1990.

Sure, those who claim Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990 have demonstrated no proof that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a pretty special needs girl in 1990.



You repeat yourself...


He did say rape twice
 
2009-09-08 04:52:56 PM  
Corvus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, especially when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.

Or, to put it in smaller words, bias is undue fairness towards one side. To deny fairness on a topic is to exhibit bias.

So then Obama is Biased towards the right because he listens to them even though he could pass things without them?

No sorry Bias does not mean what you are saying it means.

Bias means you have a predisposition to a side! That is not the same thing about how you treat that side.

You can be unbiased and still not be fair. You can also be Biased and be fair.

I know for someone like you that might be hard to understand but a lot of people treat others fairly that they do not agree with.


Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.
 
2009-09-08 04:53:34 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Poopspasm: tenpoundsofcheese: And yet seem to be okay with supporting this assault on Beck?

Number of people in this thread who don't understand what "assault" means: 1


besides yourself you mean? Here is one of the common definitions that will help you understand the meaning.

"attempt to destroy something: a campaign or series of actions that aims to challenge or destroy something"


Actually, that's fair. I was thinking of the legal definition, but your point is taken.
 
2009-09-08 04:55:43 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.

Not at all. You are:

3 a : bent, tendency b : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice c : an instance of such prejudice d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates


Having a predisposition for something is different then ACTING on it.

I know you find this hard to believe but some can keep an open mind even if they believe something coming into it(bias).

I know that might shatter your world.
 
2009-09-08 04:57:40 PM  
pxlboy: jesus christ, are we still on that farking meme?

We're not, anymore, but Keith Olberguy still is.
 
2009-09-08 04:57:57 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Corvus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, especially when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.

Or, to put it in smaller words, bias is undue fairness towards one side. To deny fairness on a topic is to exhibit bias.

So then Obama is Biased towards the right because he listens to them even though he could pass things without them?

No sorry Bias does not mean what you are saying it means.

Bias means you have a predisposition to a side! That is not the same thing about how you treat that side.

You can be unbiased and still not be fair. You can also be Biased and be fair.

I know for someone like you that might be hard to understand but a lot of people treat others fairly that they do not agree with.

Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.


Is it bias to report on the rumors about Glenn Beck raping and murdering a girl in 1990?
 
2009-09-08 04:58:07 PM  
++1 Drew
 
2009-09-08 04:59:29 PM  
Corvus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.

Not at all. You are:

3 a : bent, tendency b : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice c : an instance of such prejudice d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates

Having a predisposition for something is different then ACTING on it.

I know you find this hard to believe but some can keep an open mind even if they believe something coming into it(bias).

I know that might shatter your world.


Fair 6 a : marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism

To be biased is to be without fairness in regards to a certain subject. You cannot be both fair and biased at the same time when it comes to a specific topic. If you are being fair, you are free from self-interest or prejudice. If you are being biased, you have a prejudice. They simply cannot coexist.
 
2009-09-08 05:01:01 PM  
Police have declined to comment if Bob Saget and Glenn Beck, gang raped, murdered and then cannibalized a girl in 1900. Police also declined to comment if both parties engaged in homosexual intercourse after the alleged rape and murder.
 
2009-09-08 05:01:37 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.

So are judges all NONE BIASED?

And if not then are you saying every court case where a judge comes in with any bias or predisposition is UNFAIR? Because that is what you are saying.

Your saying everyone who has any bias will treat the side they don't believe in unfairly. I know many on the right seem to think this way but that's actually not common thinking.

Most people have a level of fair play built into them where they act fair and try to keep an open mind even if they have a bias against something.

It's amazing to me that this concept seems completely foreign to you. That you think if you are biased towards a subject it always you to treat it completely unfairly.
 
2009-09-08 05:03:50 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Fair 6 a : marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism

To be biased is to be without fairness in regards to a certain subject. You cannot be both fair and biased at the same time when it comes to a specific topic. If you are being fair, you are free from self-interest or prejudice. If you are being biased, you have a prejudice. They simply cannot coexist.


So then if you are biased against a subject you then also believe it's OK to make up lies about it (unfair)?


I am starting to see why right wingers justify the things they do.

So if I don't like healthcare reform then it's ok to make up lies that it will put old people to death?
 
2009-09-08 05:05:41 PM  
I fail to see where Drew "calls out" Olbermann. He even accepts his point.

Don't get me wrong, I think Glenn Beck gets everything he deserves, so let 4chan handle it. We don't need to stoop to Glenn Beck's level. We are better than him - we don't go around raping and killing young girls.
 
2009-09-08 05:07:34 PM  
I don't think Olbermann was trying to fan the flames by throwing the "Worst Persons" bone to the people who are propagating this. I saw the segment - he didn't even go into the slightest detail, just basically said "you know who you are and I see what you did there". Who knows whether this was to avoid defamation charges from FNC or to avoid giving any further credence to what is an admittedly stupid and childish meme.

/well, I guess Countdown's staff knows
//yes, I watch Olbermann occasionally

rickythepenguin: When did you end up back in literland, hun? :(

/seems to be the cool thing to say


Didn't have a spare $25 to reup when mine ran out. Times are tough, man.
 
2009-09-08 05:07:47 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Fair 6 a : marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism

To be biased is to be without fairness in regards to a certain subject. You cannot be both fair and biased at the same time when it comes to a specific topic. If you are being fair, you are free from self-interest or prejudice. If you are being biased, you have a prejudice. They simply cannot coexist.


Bullshiat, Fair means you do something giving both sides an equivalent chance to succeed on its merits.

You can be biased and do that.

Once again are you saying our court systems have no biases at all? No one in the jury or judge have biases?

I think many people agree that they do have biases, but that overall it's fair.

It's not the same thing.

I find it funny you feel if you are biased for a topic that you are allowed to be dishonest about it.

But that explains a lot.

So when you are biased for a topic you have no qualms about making up lies about it or against the other side?
 
2009-09-08 05:07:48 PM  
Corvus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.

So are judges all NONE BIASED?

And if not then are you saying every court case where a judge comes in with any bias or predisposition is UNFAIR? Because that is what you are saying.

Your saying everyone who has any bias will treat the side they don't believe in unfairly. I know many on the right seem to think this way but that's actually not common thinking.

Most people have a level of fair play built into them where they act fair and try to keep an open mind even if they have a bias against something.

It's amazing to me that this concept seems completely foreign to you. That you think if you are biased towards a subject it always you to treat it completely unfairly.


I don't know what NONE BIASED means, but yes, Judges should be without bias when deciding a case. They should rely on codified law, or in the case of the Supreme Court, should rely on the Constitution and prior interpretations. Their personal thoughts and ideas on the matter should never come into play.

So yes, a Judge that comes in with a bias or predisposition towards one side or the other is being unfair if he does so without hearing the facts. If a Judge were to see a defendant who had a lengthy history of violent crime come before him in a case regarding domestic violence, should the judge just sentence the person to the max sentence without hearing the facts? Of course not. Why would you think that bias would be any different?

And yes, someone with bias will allow it to affect them whether they realize it or not. Bias is the opposite of fairness. Bias introduces external factors into a fair situation, regardless of the outcome of that situation, the process was still affected by bias in one way or another.
 
2009-09-08 05:12:23 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: Xetal: For the same reason they don't have a #1 show on AM radio and why more sources on the internet have a liberal bias than a conservative bias.

Younger and more educated people tend to be more liberal.
Younger and more educated people watch less TV and spend more time on the internet.

It isn't exactly rocket science to connect the two.

Well, reality DOES have a well known liberal bias.



Reality is actually more centrist, in that it doesn't give a shiat about politics.

Unless you are talking about perceived reality...
 
2009-09-08 05:12:28 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Corvus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Look, you can spin this all you want, but if you are really disagreeing with the definition of bias, then it is you that has the problem.

So are judges all NONE BIASED?

And if not then are you saying every court case where a judge comes in with any bias or predisposition is UNFAIR? Because that is what you are saying.

Your saying everyone who has any bias will treat the side they don't believe in unfairly. I know many on the right seem to think this way but that's actually not common thinking.

Most people have a level of fair play built into them where they act fair and try to keep an open mind even if they have a bias against something.

It's amazing to me that this concept seems completely foreign to you. That you think if you are biased towards a subject it always you to treat it completely unfairly.

I don't know what NONE BIASED means, but yes, Judges should be without bias when deciding a case. They should rely on codified law, or in the case of the Supreme Court, should rely on the Constitution and prior interpretations. Their personal thoughts and ideas on the matter should never come into play.

So yes, a Judge that comes in with a bias or predisposition towards one side or the other is being unfair if he does so without hearing the facts. If a Judge were to see a defendant who had a lengthy history of violent crime come before him in a case regarding domestic violence, should the judge just sentence the person to the max sentence without hearing the facts? Of course not. Why would you think that bias would be any different?

And yes, someone with bias will allow it to affect them whether they realize it or not. Bias is the opposite of fairness. Bias introduces external factors into a fair situation, regardless of the outcome of that situation, the process was still affected by bias in one way or another.


He doesn't get it. He won't get it. You have been talking about it for three hours and he STILL doesn't get it! The COWS can program a VCR by now!
 
2009-09-08 05:13:46 PM  
Wasn't there a story about how Glen Beck's homosexual lover was somehow involved with some sort of RITUALISTIC RAPE AND SUBSEQUENT MURDER of a young Korean Immigrant in 1990?

I just can't find a link to the article...
 
2009-09-08 05:14:35 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: I don't know what NONE BIASED means, but yes, Judges should be without bias when deciding a case. They should rely on codified law, or in the case of the Supreme Court, should rely on the Constitution and prior interpretations. Their personal thoughts and ideas on the matter should never come into play.

Ummm we live in a common law country so they don't follow codified law the follow precedent please learn remedial law. You are an idiot who knows nothing about our legal system.

Codefied countries are like France. Our law system is not based on theirs. You look like a complete idiot.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So yes, a Judge that comes in with a bias or predisposition towards one side or the other is being unfair if he does so without hearing the facts. If a Judge were to see a defendant who had a lengthy history of violent crime come before him in a case regarding domestic violence, should the judge just sentence the person to the max sentence without hearing the facts? Of course not. Why would you think that bias would be any different?

Wow you are dumb. That's exactly my point. that would being UNFAIR.

Treating a side different is being UNFAIR.

Having predefined belief is being BIASED. They are not the same thing.


You don't think someone with a predefined view can every change their mind?
 
2009-09-08 05:15:35 PM  
I really don't see how this petty bickering and arguing about Glenn Beck's alleged rape and murder of a girl in 1990 can get us anywhere. People seriously need to let go of their own biases and look at this issue with impartiality. This is serious business people.
 
2009-09-08 05:16:14 PM  
jst3p: He doesn't get it. He won't get it. You have been talking about it for three hours and he STILL doesn't get it! The COWS can program a VCR by now!

I get it.

Your opinions are not based on fact.

You have a world were you believe others who do not believe what you believe are all "biased partisans" and you will ignore all facts presented to you to believe this.

I get it.
 
2009-09-08 05:17:55 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: And yes, someone with bias will allow it to affect them whether they realize it or not. Bias is the opposite of fairness. Bias introduces external factors into a fair situation, regardless of the outcome of that situation, the process was still affected by bias in one way or another.

So any judge with ANY bias should be outlawed!

We should have no judges who a Republican, Democrat, Liberal or conservative or believe in any ideology whatsoever? Because they could NEVER have a fair trial.
 
2009-09-08 05:19:34 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: And yes, someone with bias will allow it to affect them whether they realize it or not. Bias is the opposite of fairness. Bias introduces external factors into a fair situation, regardless of the outcome of that situation, the process was still affected by bias in one way or another.

So do you have any biases?
 
2009-09-08 05:19:55 PM  
OMG!!!

I hadn't heard that Glen Beck allegedly raped and murdered a girl in 1990. I hope some can verify this definitively - this type of rumor causes me to question whether he should continue to have a television show! I normally would want some type of evidence, but I see a large number of people here repeating the rumor, so there must be some substance to it. I can't imagine anyone would say that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990 if there weren't some factual basis for the statement, so obviously there must be.

I also hear he's working on making his show into a mandatory program so he can protect us from teh socialism. I'm not sure if I can trust him to do that if there's even a chance that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
 
2009-09-08 05:20:37 PM  
Corvus:

If you want to get into a semantic discussion about the difference between fair and bias I am not going to get in your way. But I am not going to participate because it bores me and is not relevant to the point I was making, which was not specifically directed only at you but more of a general observation.

In general the partisan monkeys on both sides of the aisle fling poo at fark claiming bais. I have seen fark accused of pandering to both the left and the right, which in a way FARK is guilty of both. They want page views and a controversial story does that. The funny thing to me is those on one side or the other thinking that fark is unfair, or biased, against their affiliation.

I was speaking about something greater than this particular issue or thread. Is "fark" being "unfair" in this case? Who the hell cares? It is a website who's mascot is a squirrel with a huge nutsack.
 
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