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(London Times)   British police accuse Dick Cheney of nearly destroying their investigations into a major terrorist plot   (timesonline.co.uk) divider line 86
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2009-09-08 08:52:30 AM
Dick.
 
2009-09-08 09:59:02 AM
Ardent Dick shafted cockney partners, fiddled with insurrection probe, premature incarceration semi-wrecked it, given a hard time for his cock-up.
 
2009-09-08 10:10:17 AM
Neocon incompetence? I don't believe it.
 
2009-09-08 10:15:37 AM
Dick Cheney waterboarded and sodomized a girl in 1990.
 
2009-09-08 11:15:58 AM
B-but... he potentially possibly maybe sorta kinda prevented a probable attack on the US! Screw all your damn foreigners if you can't see it that way.
 
2009-09-08 11:19:58 AM
You're f*cking welcome.

Signed,
AMERICA

www.rgllaw.us
 
2009-09-08 11:20:28 AM
Umm, the British do realize Cheney isn't in the white house anymore, right?
 
2009-09-08 11:20:51 AM
Somewhere in a bunker, amidst rows of walk-in safes, Cheney gets up, grabs a red marker, and crosses off Britain on a gigantic map full of red Xs.

"I'll always have Singapore," the old man grunts.
 
2009-09-08 11:21:19 AM
Toots McGee: B-but... he potentially possibly maybe sorta kinda prevented a probable attack on the US! Screw all your damn foreigners if you can't see it that way.

No, no, no. That meme is done. What you are supposed to say now is "Bush and Chaney are out of office; get over it!"
 
2009-09-08 11:22:12 AM
Yogimus: You're f*cking welcome.

Signed,
AMERICA


If you finish the article, you find out that the guy ESCAPED from detention in Pakistan and we actually have no idea whether he'd alive or dead at the current time.

Whoops, our bad.

Signed,
Amurricah
 
2009-09-08 11:22:13 AM
CloseYourMouth: Umm, the British do realize Cheney isn't in the white house anymore, right?

Sometimes articles are written about things that happened in the past.
 
2009-09-08 11:23:48 AM
Sorry my HotWingConspiracy: CloseYourMouth: Umm, the British do realize Cheney isn't in the white house anymore, right?

Sometimes articles are written about things that happened in the past.


Sorry my bad, from the article I got the impression the arrest was recent, not from 2006. Switching modes...damn that Cheney.
 
2009-09-08 11:24:14 AM
Great, who'd he shoot this time?
 
2009-09-08 11:25:10 AM
I'm still waiting for Cheney to peel off his face and reveal that he's been Saddam Hussein all along, and everything that's happened in Washington for the past 20 years has been part of a meticulously-planned, wildly-circumlocuitous plot to steal Fort Knots, thereby throwing the world economy into chaos, and allowing him to seize total control!

And those fools played right into his hands. Moo hoo ha ha haaaaa!
 
2009-09-08 11:25:53 AM
Well, if it was so important, the British should have known to brief the man in charge.
 
2009-09-08 11:28:07 AM
I'm not sure how this is Obama's fault, but give me a few minutes and I'll think of a way.
 
2009-09-08 11:30:44 AM
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom: I'm still waiting for Cheney to peel off his face and reveal that he's been Saddam Hussein all along, and everything that's happened in Washington for the past 20 years has been part of a meticulously-planned, wildly-circumlocuitous plot to steal Fort Knots, thereby throwing the world economy into chaos, and allowing him to seize total control!

And those fools played right into his hands. Moo hoo ha ha haaaaa!


www.madmann.com

Close.
 
2009-09-08 11:31:30 AM
This is clearly an attempt to discredit a GREAT AMERICAN so that the communistic Brtians can promote their LIBERAL AGENDA through Barack Osama!
 
2009-09-08 11:33:32 AM
HotWingConspiracy: CloseYourMouth: Umm, the British do realize Cheney isn't in the white house anymore, right?

Sometimes articles are written about things that happened in the past.


Unlike most television shows, we don't uncover a terrorist plot, arrest, touchier errm question, place them on trial, and convict them all in a tidy 60 minute slot. Sometimes it takes years to get all of this done.

This all started way way back in 2007, DICK was still the VP at that time.
 
2009-09-08 11:34:14 AM
Yogimus: You're f*cking welcome.

Signed,
AMERICA


That made me lol.

bemis23: This is clearly an attempt to discredit a GREAT AMERICAN so that the communistic Brtians can promote their LIBERAL AGENDA through Barack Osama!

Yes, it is, and we woulda gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling Ameirans.
 
2009-09-08 11:34:53 AM
Bush's fault.
 
2009-09-08 11:35:03 AM
Are there any people who think Cheney was actually trying to make the country safer? This is just further proof that Cheney wanted to make the country afraid while doing little to actually protect it.
 
2009-09-08 11:38:32 AM
Go fark yourself!
 
2009-09-08 11:38:42 AM
In the spirit of bipartisanship, I move that we operate in a manner consistent with the Clinton/Bush transition: any attacks that occur through this Thursday are Bush's fault, and Obama is responsible beginning Friday.
 
2009-09-08 11:40:21 AM
www.funnymofo.net
 
2009-09-08 11:40:22 AM
This whole thing is fascinating to a level that trascends any notion of general facepalmery.

It is almost impossible to believe that whoever was calling the shots on the American side (humor me for a second) could have jeopardised the British operation in the face of this:

including a massive round-the-clock surveillance of 200 suspects

as well as this:

Mr Clarke added that the airline bomb plot trial had brought home the extent to which the myriad of terrorist cells and plots in Britain were connected and aided and kept in touch through key figures such as Mr Rauf, who was also in contact with the 7/7 bombers on London transport, the failed 21/7 London bombers, and the fertiliser bomb plotters picked up by Operation Crevice.

Forget about neocons and liburltards for a moment and just contemplate the monumental amounts of fail seeping from every pore of that decision to act before the plotters had got the tickets.


It is beautiful.
 
2009-09-08 11:48:03 AM
I did not see any facts in that article, only belief, suspicion, and supposition. It was the Pakastanis that arrested the terrorist. At the time, the Pakastanis weren't exactly Bush's lapdog.

Their only lead is that some CIA agent went to Pakistan around the time the guy was arrested. Cheney! Of course!
 
2009-09-08 11:49:53 AM
Why the Fark isn't Cheney under indictment for treason? Cheyney has perjured, obstructed justice and abused his power. Did he, or did he not do more to harm this country than Bill Clinton did in the Lewinski affair for which he was farking impeached by a vote in the House of Representatives.

/may all Neocons suck donkey dick in Hell
 
2009-09-08 11:51:57 AM
Operation Crevice
Uhuhuh...huhuh.
 
2009-09-08 11:53:56 AM
The British were hopping mad about that

I just thought that was a funny expression to use in such a serious article.
 
2009-09-08 12:00:48 PM
Americans do not know how to deal with terrorism. If that isn't bad enough, it's the farking French who do.

Americans make constant speeches about it, grandstand endlessly, set up meaningless EVERYBODY PANIC warnings, then finally decide to move on their own in a blaze of glory that ruins everything.

Well done lads.

The way to do it. The proper way to do it is, you let your covert international intelligence work with it quietly. When you talk about it, you simply mention that everything is being dealt with and is under control. You share intelligence with all of your allies and work with them to quietly, inobtrusively make the problem go away. You find them, you track them, then you make them disappear without alarming anyone.

Is that really so difficult to figure out, or is real security less important than screaming 9/11 9/11 9/11 at every opportunity?
 
2009-09-08 12:01:09 PM
Harvey Manfrenjensenjen:

In the spirit of bipartisanship, I move that we operate in a manner consistent with the Clinton/Bush transition: any attacks that occur through this Thursday are Bush's fault, and Obama is responsible beginning Friday.

If that includes any memos after Friday that read "(XX) determined to attack the U.S. using (YY)," then I think we gotta deal!!
 
2009-09-08 12:07:32 PM
Not news to people who have paid attention. I will briefly quote Ron Suskind (The Way of the World):

When Bush brings up the airliner plot and expresses his desire to snap the trap shut, Blair is unmoved. He says he's quite clear about the position of his people ... With a plot as big as what is slowly developing in London, the terrorists will surely seek permission to move forward, and when they do, Blair asserts, we can run the thread right into Zawahiri's beard. (p. 44)

He knows how concerned Bush is about the coming midterm elections, that Congress will go to the Democrats and the rest of his administration will be a wash of gridlock and recrimination. Cheney, of course, is similarly concerned. And now Bush wants something done.
(p. 44)

Cheney makes provisions. It's all very tightly held. No one can know what's under way-no one, certainly, in the foreign policy establishment and not even most top officials in the intelligence community.

If this were run on a split screen, one image would be a man slipping into Islamabad in darkness in early August. The man is Jose Rodriquez, the director of operations at CIA, the agency's number four official, and the head of all clandestine operations and CIA stations around the world. He was moved into that position in 2005 by Porter Goss, as part of Goss's mission to rein in the renegade agency and make it more attentive to filling the needs of its "customer," the White House. Outside of Cheney's office, virtually no one in America or abroad knows that Rodriquez has been dispatched to Islamabad. It is not, however, Pakistan's powerful Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, that Rodriguez and Cheney are concerned about. It's that British intelligence will discover Rodriguez's presence through their sources in Pakistan or those in the U.S. intelligence community.

His mission is to secretly pass information to a selected Pakistani intelligence official, who will summarily arrest one Rashid Rauf, the Pakistani contact for the British airline plotters. Rodriguez then has to get out of the country undetected.

He manages this, and Rauf is quietly apprehended. As a whisper of the arrest spreads to a few top officials in British intelligence-first in Islamabad and then in London-they curse, throw ashtrays, and scream bloody murder. They know the Pakistanis would never have moved on Rauf without first checking with them. And God knows the Brits didn't the give the order.
(pp. 45-46)
 
2009-09-08 12:08:45 PM
aerojockey: Well, if it was so important, the British should have known to brief the man in charge.

and that man would possibly have known not to carry that briefing on the top of a pile of papers he was photographed carrying. by the media.

/not a Cheney fan
//also not a fan of morans
///it's possible I missed a reference here
////don't care
 
2009-09-08 12:11:26 PM
When will you retards finally admit that your incompetent bureaucrats are as incompetent as theirs?

read: they all are a bunch of farking idiots
 
2009-09-08 12:24:23 PM
BunkyBrewman: When will you retards finally admit that your incompetent bureaucrats are as incompetent as theirs?

read: they all are a bunch of farking idiots


Hah, if you think we don't ackowledge that then you don't follow enough British news that isn't about 'nanny state' acts. But I forgive you, as that's all you're required to know to participate in a Fark thread about the UK. People here hate the government and its stupid antics more than Glenn Beck pretends to hate Obama in order to get ratings. Only difference is we're justified in hating our incompetent bunch of twatjockeys. The only thing that keeps people in line and from breaking out in revolt is the knowledge that the replacement won't be much better. That and they took our knives and guns and swords, can't have a revolution with sporks and yellow teeth!! Or can you? brb.
 
2009-09-08 12:24:33 PM
Hey Dick! Did you still want to claim that Bush made all the decisions?
 
2009-09-08 12:26:27 PM
www.timesonline.co.uk

1. Obvious: Excuse me. Is that your nose or did a bus park on your face.
2. Meteorological: Everybody take cover. She's going to blow.
3. Fashionable: You know, you could de-emphasize your nose if you wore something larger. Like ... Wyoming.
4. Personal: Well, here we are. Just the three of us.
5. Punctual: Alright gentlemen. Your nose was on time but you were fifteen minutes late.
6. Envious: Oooo, I wish I were you. Gosh. To be able to smell your own ear.
7. Naughty: Pardon me, Sir. Some of the ladies have asked if you wouldn't mind putting that thing away.
8. Philosophical: You know. It's not the size of a nose that's important. It's what's in it that matters.
9. Humorous: Laugh and the world laughs with you. Sneeze and it's goodbye Seattle.
10. Commercial: Hi, I'm Earl Schibe and I can paint that nose for $39.95.
11. Polite: Ah. Would you mind not bobbing your head. The orchestra keeps changing tempo.
12. Melodic: Everybody! "He's got the whole world in his nose."
13. Sympathetic: Oh, What happened? Did your parents lose a bet with God?
14. Complimentary: You must love the little birdies to give them this to perch on.
15. Scientific: Say, does that thing there influence the tides.
16. Obscure: Oh, I'd hate to see the grindstone.
17. Inquiry: When you stop to smell the flowers, are they afraid?
18. French: Say, the pigs have refused to find any more truffles until you leave.
19. Pornographic: Finally, a man who can satisfy two women at once.
20. Religious: The Lord giveth and He just kept on giving, didn't He.
21. Disgusting: Say, who mows your nose hair.
22. Paranoid: Keep that guy away from my cocaine!
23. Aromatic: It must be wonderful to wake up in the morning and smell the coffee ... in Brazil.
24. Appreciative: Oooo, how original. Most people just have their teeth capped.
25. Dirty: Your name wouldn't be Dick, would it?

/Steve Martin FTW
//DRTFA.
 
2009-09-08 12:31:53 PM
Yogimus: You're f*cking welcome.

Signed,
AMERICA


What a cnut....
 
2009-09-08 12:34:16 PM
Gordon Bennett
Americans do not know how to deal with terrorism. If that isn't bad enough, it's the farking French who do.

In an ideal world, that might work. Except for the fact that we can't trust our allies, because they're constantly sharing information with our enemies.

Haliburton, Carlyle Group, blah, blah, blah.... Not that I support the invasion of Iraq, but long before the U.S. invaded, France and Germany were opposed because it meant their national contractors supplying equipment for oil and other industries would loose out.

New government moves in, and American companies get put in charge of the rebuilding, and we award contracts to other American, and Global conglomerates. France and Germany are angry, but deny it's greed fueling their anger, but rather their humanitarian interests.

Yep, that's the main difference between how the U.S, and other countries deal with terrorism. We all just try to win their affections by seeing who can sign the most profitable contracts.

As for Rashid Rauf, that guy is probably long dead... If we learned anything when dealing with South American Death Squads back in the 1980's, it was that everyone conveniently *escapes*, and as a result they just happen to get shot in the back while running away. Especially if you have a camera handy for collecting *proof* of their intentions. If you don't have a camera, well then they just escaped back into the jungle/mountains/city and we'll never hear from them again...


The war on terror that we have here is different. We're not fighting political ethos that can be disproven with propaganda in order to win the hearts and minds of the people. We're fighting a religion. Winning hearts and minds is one thing, converting peoples' faith is something entirely different. And I don't mean changing an entire religion itself, but just destroying their fundamental belief in violence. But it is something of the same magnitude.

Terrorists are dangerous, and do need to be executed. Don't let them live, and preach their hatred behind bars. Get rid of them. Not just because they're a threat to us, but they've retarded the development of their own countries so much because of their actions.
 
2009-09-08 12:34:42 PM
Okay, why did Cheney order it? Isn't the VP's job to entertain school kids that tour the white house?

/knows nothing about how our government works.
 
2009-09-08 12:35:54 PM
Yeah, he "escaped". Probably let him out so they'd have an excuse to keep using illegal wiretaps.
 
2009-09-08 12:38:12 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2009-09-08 12:47:06 PM
SpinzGirl: Yeah, he "escaped". Probably let him out so they'd have an excuse to keep using illegal wiretaps.

According to the BBC:

The story does not end there [the arrest]. Rauf's lawyers claim he was tortured in Pakistan and the next year he made an extraordinary escape.

Two police officers were accompanying him back from court when, bizarrely, they let him enter a mosque unguarded to pray, and he simply disappeared.

Last November came news that he had been killed in Pakistan by a missile fired by a US drone. But his body has never been recovered.
 
2009-09-08 12:51:02 PM
elchip: Dick Cheney waterboarded and sodomized a girl in 1990.

Are you saying that Dick Cheney, former vice president of the United States of America, tortured, then anally violated an underage girl in 1990?
 
2009-09-08 01:06:48 PM
Extra Virgin Palm Oil: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen:

In the spirit of bipartisanship, I move that we operate in a manner consistent with the Clinton/Bush transition: any attacks that occur through this Thursday are Bush's fault, and Obama is responsible beginning Friday.

If that includes any memos after Friday that read "(XX) determined to attack the U.S. using (YY)," then I think we gotta deal!!


Considering that there are probably piles of reports with every combination of terrorist group and target, there is a fair bet that whatever happens someone will be able to dig through the pile, find one that matches and say, "see, [insert analyst's name here] warned us that it would happen!"

AKA the "Nostradamus", "law of averages" or "team of 1000 monkeys on typewriters" approaches to intelligence analysis.
 
2009-09-08 01:08:21 PM
fernandez: elchip: Dick Cheney waterboarded and sodomized a girl in 1990.

Are you saying that Dick Cheney, former vice president of the United States of America, tortured, then anally violated an underage girl in 1990?


He certainly hasn't gone on television to denounce this fact!
 
2009-09-08 01:08:44 PM
Dick Cheney! Is there nothing he can't do?

AmIright?
 
2009-09-08 01:16:25 PM
Yogimus: You're f*cking welcome.

Signed,
AMERICA


THIS ya limey bastards.
 
2009-09-08 01:18:21 PM
Gordon Bennett: The way to do it. The proper way to do it is, you let your covert international intelligence work with it quietly. When you talk about it, you simply mention that everything is being dealt with and is under control. You share intelligence with all of your allies and work with them to quietly, inobtrusively make the problem go away. You find them, you track them, then you make them disappear without alarming anyone.

After 9/11 I hoped that the Cheney administration would do just that. I expected a full-court press of CIA operations world-wide. I expected Interpol and individual allied intelligence services (esp MI5 and MI6) to gladly open their doors to the CIA. I expected swift and expedient police action. What I got was a PNAC military crusade against brown people, an effort which ended in abject failure. Not only did it fail, its infection into Iraq actually made the problem worse by bolstering recruitment of extremist operatives.

To may amazement, the Cheney administration did EXACTLY what Bin Laden wanted him to. We over-reacted, curtailed our liberties and emptied our treasury. This was Bin Laden's stated objective!

So, my dear NeoCons, why do you support Osama Bin Laden?
 
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