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2009-09-02 09:21:38 AM
As a Gen-Xer, I approve of this commentary.

Fark the damn, dirty hippies.
 
2009-09-02 09:22:05 AM
qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?
 
2009-09-02 09:22:41 AM
Nutsac_Jim: qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?


The aqueduct?
 
2009-09-02 09:22:51 AM
Whiskey Dickens: Wow, who pissed in that guy's cornflakes?

What is it about the message of love and peace that gets people so angry?


The X'ers "fiercely rebel against the generation that preceded it" by chugging the Ayn Rand/Ronald Reagan koolaid. To them, peace and love are bad things.
 
2009-09-02 09:24:39 AM
Phil McKraken: Look what they did to music! In the 80s, many of my friends listened to classic rock because that was on the radio. The demographics of spending power favored the boomers' choice of music.

Ah but you forget the NWOBHM, US Metal, New Wave, Thrash, and Punk. The 80's had their own music for saying "Fark the Establishment." Of course, it was better than the damn dirty hippy stuff.

/actually likes most rock going back to the 50's
 
2009-09-02 09:24:40 AM
ipsofacto: tdyak: Damn those people wanting civil rights in the 60's.

wrong generation.


. DAMMIT, I made an ass out of myself. Again.

/Coffee.
 
2009-09-02 09:24:53 AM
Never in the history of this country has there been a generation that's cast a longer shadow without really having done anything to earn it than the children of the 60s

WRONG!
 
2009-09-02 09:25:18 AM
Gothnet: Hardy-r-r: Here's a big thanks to America's Greatest Generation. I fear we will never have anything close to what they were ever again. Too much narcissism these days. We need heroes, not celebrities.

Really?

Does the world really need heroes?

No argument over the "not celebrities" bit, but what we need IMHO is peace, stability and prosperity. There's little room for heroes in there.


Maybe we won't get the hero we need, but we'll get the one we deserve.

vook.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-09-02 09:26:01 AM
Wendy's Chili: Whiskey Dickens: Wow, who pissed in that guy's cornflakes?

What is it about the message of love and peace that gets people so angry?

The X'ers "fiercely rebel against the generation that preceded it" by chugging the Ayn Rand/Ronald Reagan koolaid. To them, peace and love are bad things.


To be fair, peace and love are just as unrealistic.
 
2009-09-02 09:26:12 AM
"We had lots of people! Lot's of stuff happened! And we get to claim credit for everything, even if the decade was a drug-induced blur!"
 
2009-09-02 09:26:40 AM
Megain: i was born in '68. damn those were some crazy times!

I only had 11 days of the 60s, and I'm still reeling.
 
2009-09-02 09:26:47 AM
Wendy's Chili: The X'ers "fiercely rebel against the generation that preceded it" by chugging the Ayn Rand/Ronald Reagan koolaid. To them, peace and love are bad things.

If you live in the idealistic world of the 60's, sure. But the reality of the 80's was the world going up in a ton of nukes between the USSR and US.
 
2009-09-02 09:27:05 AM
I blame the military-industrial-media complex and their non stop wars.
 
2009-09-02 09:27:21 AM
This guy's career is based on complaining and criticizing.

What a great achievement.

Sure put me in my place.
 
2009-09-02 09:27:40 AM
dormaphaea: And the war between the generations continues.

Me, I appreciate the work done for gender equality and civil rights. Woodstock not-with-standing, it was a pretty impressive and risk taking youth movement. I see shades of envy in this article.


I see lots of people who had nothing to do with the legitimately important issues of the 60's trying to hog the credit. The real risk-takers were dark-skinned people who knowingly risked more than most of us would ever dare. Many of them were locked up, beaten up, and killed. Of those who survived, they don't (usually) beat you over the head with their "How I changed the world" stories.

Compare that to the usually boomer shiat of their "struggle" when they spent a few days in jail for having some pot in their dorm room until dad could bail them out.
 
2009-09-02 09:28:03 AM
Being a sole surviving son? Fark you hippies.
 
2009-09-02 09:28:16 AM
I guess what really pisses me off, is the fact they have been preaching the message of peace and love for how many years now? You would think that after such a long time they would have figured out it doesn't work that way in the real world!
 
2009-09-02 09:28:22 AM
Wendy's Chili: Whiskey Dickens: Wow, who pissed in that guy's cornflakes?

What is it about the message of love and peace that gets people so angry?

The X'ers "fiercely rebel against the generation that preceded it" by chugging the Ayn Rand/Ronald Reagan koolaid. To them, peace and love are bad things.


You know that old parental curse, "May you grow up to have children just like you!" Heh. It's always hell to be young, and post adolescent angst is fairly charged up these days, what with Hope and Change apparently showing themselves to be nothing more than handy marketing tools.
 
2009-09-02 09:28:26 AM
I think the Internet was born in 1969.
 
2009-09-02 09:28:27 AM
ADorf11: Nutsac_Jim: qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?

The aqueduct?

And the wine
 
2009-09-02 09:29:19 AM
We bought weed at $25.00 an ounce, and not the Kansas dirt weed you kids have to smoke, either.
We had unprotected sex- a LOT
Everyone had a Les Paul Special with a 3rd row of humbuggys plugged into a 250w Fender Twin Reverb tube amp.
Since we were'nt glued to our tv sets playing guitar hero, we had to learn to play our own instruments.
Maybe we didn't have ac in our autos, but at least they ran- no freakin airbags, very few seatbelts, and a lot of 350's and 442's.

You're just jealous
 
2009-09-02 09:29:53 AM
Boomers are like a new mom who thinks she's the only person who's ever been pregnant. They outnumbered their parents, so they didn't have to listen to what every teenager should hear: You're a child, your ideals are not new, now STFU.
 
2009-09-02 09:29:53 AM
I'm waiting for the Gen Z to hit rock-bottom.

/Each generation has thought the one succeeding/preceding it has been very overrated. The luxury of a temporal distance will bring a clearer perspective to light.
 
2009-09-02 09:29:55 AM
The 60s started it
The 70s refined it
The 80s ruined it
The 90s forgot it
 
2009-09-02 09:30:21 AM
UpsideDown: ADorf11: Nutsac_Jim: qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?

The aqueduct?
And the wine


my turn
James Brown & Hendrix ... that's about it.
 
2009-09-02 09:30:34 AM
So they go from fighting "The Man", and doing drugs to being "The Man", and fighting drugs! Congratulations, hippie: You are officially what you've hated.
 
2009-09-02 09:31:42 AM
Chindit: We bought weed at $25.00 an ounce, and not the Kansas dirt weed you kids have to smoke, either.
We had unprotected sex- a LOT
Everyone had a Les Paul Special with a 3rd row of humbuggys plugged into a 250w Fender Twin Reverb tube amp.
Since we were'nt glued to our tv sets playing guitar hero, we had to learn to play our own instruments.
Maybe we didn't have ac in our autos, but at least they ran- no freakin airbags, very few seatbelts, and a lot of 350's and 442's.

You're just jealous


Oh you forgot to mention that LSD was legal for a little while...
and who can forget watching the Charlie Brown Christmas special for the FIRST time?

mtblog.teenvogue.com
 
2009-09-02 09:31:55 AM
slayer199: If you live in the idealistic world of the 60's, sure. But the reality of the 80's was the world going up in a ton of nukes between the USSR and US.

are you on drugs? that was mostly hyperbole by the hawks in the media to make sure their (defense contractors,pentagon)coffers ran full to overflowing with money.

the closest we came was in 63. By the time Reagan took office the USSR was in it's last throes. It was about bankrupt spending everything on defense like we did. They figured it out. We still haven't.
 
2009-09-02 09:34:10 AM
Any good they did in the 60's was largely undone in the 80's and 90's when their little eyes in the skies turned from Lucy and good times to Greed and social climbing. They gave us the Regan era and both Bush eras. Now, their brains are turning to rot and they are devolving into superstitious morons wanting to please their sky ghost before they kick it. They watch Faux 'news' and listen to spittle spewing lunatics on the AM radio to reinforce their senile delusions.

Even so you can't really blame them. They just happened to be part of one of the biggest baby booms in this country and the culture has just followed them through the normal stages of life.

50's was all about kids, 60's & 70's was all about teenagers, 80's and 90's were yuppies, and now they are retiring and dying.
 
2009-09-02 09:34:40 AM
AiryAnne: Much as I hate hippies, that generation sure made some good music.

Always cracks me up when a car full of high-school age kids drives by the house with the stereo blasting songs from the 70s.

/lot of great music from the 60s and 70s
 
2009-09-02 09:34:50 AM
It's getting a little dusty, but this is still a damn good read about Generation X. Everyone under 40 should check it out. It takes a lot of the articles points and talks about them in a much less rant filled manner.

13th Gen: Abort, Retry, Ignore Fail?

Makes a lot of good points. We're a lot more practical minded than the Boomers, not that it would take much.
 
2009-09-02 09:35:13 AM
Wendy's Chili: Whiskey Dickens: Wow, who pissed in that guy's cornflakes?

What is it about the message of love and peace that gets people so angry?

The X'ers "fiercely rebel against the generation that preceded it" by chugging the Ayn Rand/Ronald Reagan koolaid. To them, peace and love are bad things.


Well maybe for 2 years in high school, but a lot of Gen Xers ended up being low achieving low self esteem types with varying degrees of slackerness. And we'll never grow up. Everything is seen through a cartoon, video game and D&D filter. Weird Al is our anthem-writer.

General immaturity is why the standard Gen Xer should probably not hold important political office.

\still sees morality through the prism of the lawful-chaotic, good-evil D&D alignment axis
 
2009-09-02 09:35:59 AM
I meant to say, Gen Xers who had brief romances with Reagan and Ayn Rand threw that stuff away by college. Usually.
 
2009-09-02 09:38:39 AM
Groovy...

www.hobo-bonobo.co.uk

Far out!

tvphotogalleries.com
 
2009-09-02 09:38:56 AM
Egalitarian: General immaturity is why the standard Gen Xer should probably not hold important political office.

Uh, yeah, that's nice for you. We're not all retarded man-children though. Some of us have serious political views that are nothing to do with computer games, and some of us never played D&D. Not even once. Or really got into Weird Al.

/free power-pills for all pac-men!
 
2009-09-02 09:39:11 AM
Hobodeluxe: slayer199: If you live in the idealistic world of the 60's, sure. But the reality of the 80's was the world going up in a ton of nukes between the USSR and US.

are you on drugs? that was mostly hyperbole by the hawks in the media to make sure their (defense contractors,pentagon)coffers ran full to overflowing with money.

the closest we came was in 63. By the time Reagan took office the USSR was in it's last throes. It was about bankrupt spending everything on defense like we did. They figured it out. We still haven't.


Oh, I don't know. Maybe the closest we came 'on purpose'

There are quite a few close calls where some jackass was supposed to push the red button, but didnt, saving us all.

We were almost all done in by a cloud.....or a bear..etc.
 
2009-09-02 09:39:47 AM
Dorf11: Nutsac_Jim: qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?

The aqueduct?


The Space Race?
 
2009-09-02 09:39:57 AM
Bullshiat! Many of the "Children of the Sixties" were sent to Vietnam, giving the rest something to protest about.

While many of my fellow Nam Vets came back farked and our country didn't have the resources, knowledge, or insight to help them, many of us came back and began very productive lives. The notion that we cast a long, useless shadow is insulting and wrong.

I think that we all learned something during that era, those that fought and those that protested, and IMHO, knowledge is always useful.

Just my farking two cents.
 
2009-09-02 09:40:20 AM
Nutsac_Jim: qsblues: Malcolm X assassinated
Martin Luther King Jr assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy assassinated
John F. Kennedy assassinated
Race Riots
Vietnam War
Nixon gets elected President of the United States
Watts in LA

wtf was so goddamn great about the 60's?


miniskirts?


hotpants!
 
2009-09-02 09:40:45 AM
The epitaph of the 1960s will be that it had great musicians come out of it. Which is like having on your epitaph that your child became the best hairdresser in the state.

I think the Baby Boomers had the "Frank Sinatra Jr" effect on them. The previous generation had the Great Depression and WW2 to put on their resume. Growing up in the West after that was bound to cause a massive failure in identity.
 
2009-09-02 09:41:43 AM
Hobodeluxe: slayer199: If you live in the idealistic world of the 60's, sure. But the reality of the 80's was the world going up in a ton of nukes between the USSR and US.

are you on drugs? that was mostly hyperbole by the hawks in the media to make sure their (defense contractors,pentagon)coffers ran full to overflowing with money.

the closest we came was in 63. By the time Reagan took office the USSR was in it's last throes. It was about bankrupt spending everything on defense like we did. They figured it out. We still haven't.


Graduated high school in '86 - up until '84 or so, I and most of my friends (near a nuclear power plant and a naval air station) pretty much assumed we'd die in a nuclear war.

I don't remember much of any analysis saying that the USSR was weakened and not really a threat, even though that may have been the reality.
 
2009-09-02 09:42:58 AM
jimberkin.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-09-02 09:43:05 AM
Lance Russell's Nose: dormaphaea: And the war between the generations continues.

Me, I appreciate the work done for gender equality and civil rights. Woodstock not-with-standing, it was a pretty impressive and risk taking youth movement. I see shades of envy in this article.

I see lots of people who had nothing to do with the legitimately important issues of the 60's trying to hog the credit. The real risk-takers were dark-skinned people who knowingly risked more than most of us would ever dare. Many of them were locked up, beaten up, and killed. Of those who survived, they don't (usually) beat you over the head with their "How I changed the world" stories.

Compare that to the usually boomer shiat of their "struggle" when they spent a few days in jail for having some pot in their dorm room until dad could bail them out.


There's no denying that. But I think this columnist is over-reacting to a few celeb hippy types (Baez, etc) at a singular event, and just having a knee-jerk reaction - common to the post-adolescent struggle, when nothing seems fair and it must be someone else's fault.

A big part of the hippys (or rather, and more appropriately, "yippes" as any student of the Chicago 7 can attest) was civil disobedience that was non-violent, but produced scathing commentary on the bastards in power. See "1968 Democratic Convention" for just how easy it was to piss off those assholes, and cause them to over-react - showing their true colors.

I would never claim that the Woodstock Generation was the greatest - nor do I give credit to the X-ers or whoever it is coming up now. Those chapters have yet to be written, but the predominance of trust-fund hipster youth "slumming it" in my neighborhood does not bode well for that generational history.

The Boomers were a product of a Generation that said NEVER AGAIN and meant it. The nation, following WWII, was flush with cash and victory. Parents of Boomers naturally wanted to give their children everything. Like your parents did. Remember? Parents want their children to do better than they did?

I'll tell you something about us late Boomers though. Many of us? We are the beginning of that trend, the one that plagues you hippy haters so, the one where you're working twice as hard for half as much of the pie. And it's pissing you off. Sure, of course it should.

My answer? Stop believing what the All Powerful Marketing and Branding Gods would have you believe.
 
2009-09-02 09:43:23 AM
Friar Cadfael: I think that we all learned something during that era, those that fought and those that protested, and IMHO, knowledge is always useful.

Entering a useless war not being one of them.
 
2009-09-02 09:43:30 AM
Excuse me while I go napalm some old people.

/HATE hippies
 
2009-09-02 09:44:49 AM
www.welknotes.com
 
2009-09-02 09:45:43 AM
i168.photobucket.com

Oh, those children of the 60's. What did they do to earn anything with their civil rights struggles and conscripted military service. Bah! Don't they know how hard people have it today?
 
2009-09-02 09:46:10 AM
www.poolparty.com
 
2009-09-02 09:47:41 AM
I blame Family Ties, not Ayn Rand.
 
2009-09-02 09:47:49 AM
Hardy-r-r: Here's a big thanks to America's Greatest Generation. I fear we will never have anything close to what they were ever again. Too much narcissism these days. We need heroes, not celebrities.

We have plenty of heroes.

The internet just makes it easier for us to know they're also pedophiles.
 
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