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(Southern Poverty Law Center)   Turns out "Aloha" is the native Hawaiian word for "Kill Whitey"   (splcenter.org) divider line 576
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2009-09-01 12:43:13 AM  
Well, if we hadn't stolen all the large bubbles on the island, this wouldn't be a problem.
 
2009-09-01 12:43:21 AM  
gregscott:

// Any thread can be a gun thread!


LOL That has now begun to make me laugh

I have fallen victim to a meme
 
2009-09-01 12:44:21 AM  
Wait, so first the article says racism is a major problem in Hawaii. Then, next paragraph:
Hawaii has collected hate crimes data since 2002 (most states began doing so a decade earlier). In the first six years, the state reported only 12 hate crimes, and half of those were in 2006. (All other things being equal, the state would be expected to have more than 800 such crimes annually, given the size of its population, according to a federal government study of hate crimes.)

So either Hawaii is under-reporting hate crimes on a major scale, or there's hate crimes in Hawaii, but not much worse than you'd expect against a minority group.
 
2009-09-01 12:44:44 AM  
SherKhan: I've heard of the racism in Hawaii for decades but have never had the pleasure of the opportunity to experience it firsthand.

Its no different from anything else in life. If you make trouble, you get trouble.

This rule applies anywhere.

When I first moved to Hawaii I had local girls helping me meet people right off the bat, most guys were really quiet around me, but after a few months they opened up and I never felt any Haole hatred.

Even Molokai the people were great.

/Old Chinese man in Chinatown wouldnt serve my buddy and I cause we were Haole tho...
 
2009-09-01 12:44:48 AM  
Government Drone: kiapolo: give me doughnuts: Dang. At least the Native Americans had the balls to fight for their land. Those Hawaiians just rolled over and let us take it. What a bunch of losers.


haha...fighting everyday, one haole at a time...

I think you mixed up your quotes there, scooter.


fixed...mahalo...
 
2009-09-01 12:44:52 AM  
I lived on Oahu for 6 months. It is not alot of fun to be white in a Hawaii. I am a pretty mellow guy and I got challenged to at least 10 fights in six months. Those locals who start shiat out there are huge too. I am 6'2 300 lbs and I felt like a midget next to these guys.
 
2009-09-01 12:44:54 AM  
Bubba's Burgers or Ono Char Burgers...yummmmmm
 
2009-09-01 12:44:58 AM  
FTA: The resentment some Native Hawaiians feels toward whites today can be chalked up in part to "ancestral memory," says Jon Matsuoka, dean of the School of Social Work at the University of Hawaii.

What a crock of SH*T.

There's NO SUCH THING as "ancestral memory". No one is born knowing anything -- not the color blue, not the French word for "lamp", not the airborne velocity of a Mediterranean swallow, not their parents prejudices towards others, NOTHING.

All of that is LEARNED, which means what's incorrect can be UNLEARNED, i.e. corrected with education. That an educator would suggest otherwise, particularly a college educator ... it's absolutely appalling.
 
2009-09-01 12:45:20 AM  
Boy, you invade an island and add it your list of states, and this is the thanks we get?
 
2009-09-01 12:45:31 AM  
Need_MindBleach: Wait, so first the article says racism is a major problem in Hawaii. Then, next paragraph:
Hawaii has collected hate crimes data since 2002 (most states began doing so a decade earlier). In the first six years, the state reported only 12 hate crimes, and half of those were in 2006. (All other things being equal, the state would be expected to have more than 800 such crimes annually, given the size of its population, according to a federal government study of hate crimes.)

So either Hawaii is under-reporting hate crimes on a major scale, or there's hate crimes in Hawaii, but not much worse than you'd expect against a minority group.


Did you miss that whole section of the article that talks about major under-reporting?
 
2009-09-01 12:45:47 AM  
No, way. Whitey is God's chosen one.
 
2009-09-01 12:46:16 AM  
TheRaven7: You know, normally I hate when people judge entire states, but if your children are getting their jaws fractured and spouses are getting their ears cut offwomen are getting raped and men hung from trees, MAYBE YOU SHOULD MOVE? It's the same as when white families move into the "black" neighborhood and then complain that there's too many black people around.

It really shouldn't matter, though. If you're a racist anyone, you should DIAV. Also, if you're such a useless biatch that you have to have 3 men follow you around to beat up white people, you should probably get a job or something productive to do, because you're more of a drain on Hawaii than the white people.


Do you see the illogic of your first statement?
 
2009-09-01 12:46:18 AM  
Atharaenea: Kamehameha Schools

I'd pay tuition to learn how to do a Kamehameha. Would come in handy in day to day life I imagine.

/Sir,you can't park there.
//Kamehamehaaaaaaa!!!!
 
2009-09-01 12:46:54 AM  
FTA: "OHA oversees huge tracts of lands"

www.sacred-texts.com
(couldn't find a better pic)

The author is a Monty Python fan, that's all I got out of the article. Wow, racism exists... everywhere, even in "paradise"....

not news.
 
2009-09-01 12:47:34 AM  
But it's aimed at white people in revenge for things other white people did a hundred years ago, so it's totally understandable and justified.
 
2009-09-01 12:47:48 AM  
Fine Hawaii, you win.
We'll be along shortly to close the military bases, dig up the USS Arizona, give you back your representatives and senators, and completely vacate.

Good luck with your new country. No more tainted mainlander federal dollars for all your little programs(Medicare, Medicaid, VA Hospitals, Interstate roads, bridges, Post Offices).

Since you hate mainlander white folks and don't want them on your island chain, good luck getting the Japanese and other Asian tourists to come over and spend money. How many Yen to the new Hawaii whatever-the-hell you are gonna call your currency?
Remember to get a good Air Force, Navy and coastal defense network set up, North Korea has it's sights on you and your decadent capitalism.

Since you will revert back to a monarchy, good luck with your new Imperial masters and their progeny. The infighting will rival the British monarchy over the last 200 years!

Your economy and infrastructure will resemble a former eastern bloc state for several years, but we're pulling for you and you can make it on your own!

It's been nice having you around the United States, Hawaii, but apparently it's not working out. Maybe Guam can take your place on the US flag as the 50th state.

Good Luck.
 
2009-09-01 12:48:17 AM  
This article is BS. It's only racism when white people do it.
 
2009-09-01 12:48:29 AM  
Fano: TheRaven7: You know, normally I hate when people judge entire states, but if your children are getting their jaws fractured and spouses are getting their ears cut offwomen are getting raped and men hung from trees, MAYBE YOU SHOULD MOVE? It's the same as when white families move into the "black" neighborhood and then complain that there's too many black people around.

It really shouldn't matter, though. If you're a racist anyone, you should DIAV. Also, if you're such a useless biatch that you have to have 3 men follow you around to beat up white people, you should probably get a job or something productive to do, because you're more of a drain on Hawaii than the white people.

Do you see the illogic of your first statement?


Right, because those poor white people don't have the means to leave Hawaii. They're in the same boat as 18th-20th century African Americans.
 
2009-09-01 12:48:30 AM  
haddie: SoxSweepAgain: I lived in Hilo for three years and did not experience this issue.

Yes, people who disrespect Hawaiian culture will be faced with hostility, but to get beaten up by a Big Islander requires you to be a special kind of asshole.

/haole.

Yesterday, while walking home in Kapa'a (Kauai) I had a Hawaiian (well, hard to say these days who is and who isn't) throw a gas can at me and my wife.

Why, you ask?

Well, simply: I looked at him. Not funny, not rude - just looked. He was pouring water out of the can onto his feet, and I thought it was amusing he was using a gas can, so I looked. His friend, who has half-heartedly trying to calm him down, yelled out "just stop lookin' brah".

In Hawai'i, apparently, I am not allowed to look at people on my walk home from the grocery store.


Well the act of gazing on another can be seen as a sign of dominance, so he was rejecting your power play, intended or not. Especially if he perceived you were laughing at him.

Just watch bosses and subordinates interact at any work place and see who gets to do the most direct staring at the other person, and how much "laughing at" is permitted and in which direction. Body language and domination/submission ain't just for chimps, bra'.
 
2009-09-01 12:48:38 AM  
Hey here's an idea! Let's do like we did with the native Americans here and move them to Detroit, then to New Jersey, then to a 100 yard plot in North Dakota!
 
2009-09-01 12:48:39 AM  
Naman: From my experience of being white and having lived in Hawaii for years, you usually only get attacked and called "haole" in situations where you'd still have gotten the shiat kicked out of you even if you were a native.

From my experience having lived in Hawaii for years as a child (about 25 years ago) you are wrong. Maybe its different now, but let me assure you 20 years ago it was VERY racist on Maui. I still remember "Red rover, red rover, send the haole right over". I averaged one very violent fight a week, and usually the only reason was-I was white. Other times it was "you looked at me funny" or "I just don't like you". Most were fairly honest and said "Cause you are a hoale".



My sisters had similar issues. Generally it was kept to a low level of constant harassment. Of being called Haole.
 
2009-09-01 12:48:57 AM  
MR_DING: I lived on Oahu for 6 months. It is not alot of fun to be white in a Hawaii. I am a pretty mellow guy and I got challenged to at least 10 fights in six months. Those locals who start shiat out there are huge too. I am 6'2 300 lbs and I felt like a midget next to these guys.

Lived there for 4 years and never got challenged to a fight.

What the hell where you doing?
 
2009-09-01 12:49:50 AM  
SynthLord: FTA: The resentment some Native Hawaiians feels toward whites today can be chalked up in part to "ancestral memory," says Jon Matsuoka, dean of the School of Social Work at the University of Hawaii.


No wonder we make fun of them.
 
2009-09-01 12:50:13 AM  
Hang a few to remind the rest that they're Americans.

If that fails, let 'em go and seed every square inch with Kudzu seed while filling the harbors with sunken surplus rustbuckets.
 
j79
2009-09-01 12:50:27 AM  
I lived in Hawaii (Oahu) for three years when I was younger. The only thing that saved me from not getting my ass kicked was the fact that I'm mixed (Korean/Caucasian) -- I kinda blended in.

But, I felt sorry for my white friends."Eh, you like beef, haole?"

And daveydave you're right, but in their defense, spam musubi might be the greatest thing ever. That shiat was like gold if you busted out with spam musubi on a field trip....
 
2009-09-01 12:50:46 AM  
People_are_Idiots: Hey here's an idea! Let's do like we did with the native Americans here and move them to Detroit, then to New Jersey, then to a 100 yard plot in North Dakota!

What's your point?
 
2009-09-01 12:51:04 AM  
guyinjeep16: MR_DING: I lived on Oahu for 6 months. It is not alot of fun to be white in a Hawaii. I am a pretty mellow guy and I got challenged to at least 10 fights in six months. Those locals who start shiat out there are huge too. I am 6'2 300 lbs and I felt like a midget next to these guys.

Lived there for 4 years and never got challenged to a fight.

What the hell where you doing?


Working at Jelly's and riding the bus man. I was flat broke. I believe you, but I haven't been challenged once since I moved back to California 18 years ago.
 
2009-09-01 12:51:21 AM  
kiapolo: Government Drone: kiapolo: give me doughnuts: Dang. At least the Native Americans had the balls to fight for their land. Those Hawaiians just rolled over and let us take it. What a bunch of losers.


haha...fighting everyday, one haole at a time...

I think you mixed up your quotes there, scooter.

fixed...mahalo...


Thanks. Just didn't want to be attached to a troll quote. Still love Hawaii, btw, as weird as that sounds.
 
2009-09-01 12:51:21 AM  
A Professor that condones hostility toward anyone that's white, regardless of the individual's actual behavior. Nice. The mark of a true genius capable of deep thought and rational discourse.

Did this immature biatch find her doctorate in a box of Cheerios? Way to try and justify your tenacious racism by abusing your position of influence, lady. I must of been sick on the day they taught that racism is okay as long as it's against white people, because I can't bring myself to accept politically-correct double-standard twaddle no matter how many times it's shoved in my face.

/..eh I threw out my swastika memorabilia a while ago.
 
2009-09-01 12:51:31 AM  
TheRaven7: Fano: TheRaven7: You know, normally I hate when people judge entire states, but if your children are getting their jaws fractured and spouses are getting their ears cut offwomen are getting raped and men hung from trees, MAYBE YOU SHOULD MOVE? It's the same as when white families move into the "black" neighborhood and then complain that there's too many black people around.

It really shouldn't matter, though. If you're a racist anyone, you should DIAV. Also, if you're such a useless biatch that you have to have 3 men follow you around to beat up white people, you should probably get a job or something productive to do, because you're more of a drain on Hawaii than the white people.

Do you see the illogic of your first statement?

Right, because those poor white people don't have the means to leave Hawaii. They're in the same boat as 18th-20th century African Americans.


So you are saying that African Americans should have just moved out of communities that didn't like them?
 
2009-09-01 12:52:27 AM  
Oh and I should mention, I returned to Hawaii as an adult and really didn't get harassed much as an adult. As a kid though in school it was brutal. Couldn't find any work as a Haole, until I went for work at a high tech research facility. Most of the people working there called it "hole land".
 
2009-09-01 12:52:39 AM  
MR_DING: guyinjeep16: MR_DING: I lived on Oahu for 6 months. It is not alot of fun to be white in a Hawaii. I am a pretty mellow guy and I got challenged to at least 10 fights in six months. Those locals who start shiat out there are huge too. I am 6'2 300 lbs and I felt like a midget next to these guys.

Lived there for 4 years and never got challenged to a fight.

What the hell where you doing?

Working at Jelly's and riding the bus man. I was flat broke. I believe you, but I haven't been challenged once since I moved back to California 18 years ago.


Maybe you bulked up brah!
 
2009-09-01 12:52:44 AM  
This is bullshiat. Hawaiins love tourists or they at least make a good act out of it. They hang loose a lot.
 
2009-09-01 12:53:19 AM  
Lived here for 5 years and I've learned there are certain places you just don't go...just like any town. I'm about as white as they get (work inside too much) and have never been confronted by anyone, but have known several people who live in more local areas who have (Kihei is about as white as it gets anywhere in Hawaii).
 
2009-09-01 12:53:33 AM  
I blame those people from LOST and all their DUI's.
 
2009-09-01 12:53:43 AM  
Sabyen91: This is bullshiat. Hawaiins love tourists or they at least make a good act out of it. They hang loose a lot.

We love tourists...just don't forget to go home...
 
2009-09-01 12:54:11 AM  
They're so CUTE when they are angry.

Now go back to making me that pig in the sand.
 
2009-09-01 12:54:53 AM  
guyinjeep16: MR_DING: I lived on Oahu for 6 months. It is not alot of fun to be white in a Hawaii. I am a pretty mellow guy and I got challenged to at least 10 fights in six months. Those locals who start shiat out there are huge too. I am 6'2 300 lbs and I felt like a midget next to these guys.

Lived there for 4 years and never got challenged to a fight.

What the hell where you doing?


He's big...that's all it takes...
 
2009-09-01 12:55:15 AM  
Fano: So you are saying that African Americans should have just moved out of communities that didn't like them?

Again, yes that's exactly what I'm saying. White Hawaiians should form their own Underwater Railroad. It's too bad they haven't invented airplanes yet.
 
2009-09-01 12:56:41 AM  
I've been to Hawaii. They put on a pretty face for the tourists, but underneath it all lies the ugliness of racism.
 
2009-09-01 12:56:43 AM  
The Grinch: You get the same dumb crap at any tourist-heavy town. Hawaii, California coast, Jersey shore... in many cases, the 'townies' are dirt-poor because everything dries up in the off-season, and there's a heavy resentment of their dependency on tourist dollars from people of higher means than them.

Hell, look at Wildwood, NJ. (Using it because I know it best.) Beautiful beach resort over the summer, but an absolute ghetto nine months out of the year. Go into the middle of town where you can't see the ocean, and you might as well be in any run-down city. Even their school district is an Abbott district, meaning they get extra money because they're in such dire straits; their company on that list includes Trenton, New Brunswick, and most of Hudson County. Rough stuff for a 'beach vacation paradise'. Doesn't surprise me that other such places have people acting similarly.



LOL partied in Wildwood one time. Some old granny was staring at me from across the crowded bar and just nodding her head and grinning. I freaked out knowing I was crazy enough to do her, so I left as quick as I could. My friend and I had to ask some lady off the street to rent a room. It was hilariously gross.

You and New Jersey--You're perfect together
 
2009-09-01 12:57:17 AM  
Injuneer: Boy, you invade an island and add it your list of states, and this is the thanks we get?

People should know when they are conquered.
 
2009-09-01 12:58:07 AM  
DetroitDave: cwolf20: Chalk one possible vacation spot off my list.

Kinda what I was thinkin'.


Dollar for dollar, there are a lot nicer places. I was there for two weeks and the only difference between it and any other bigassed rock with a beach in the middle of the ocean was not needing a passport when I landed. It was altogether underwhelming once sticker shock was factored in. I was never hassled in any way, but I'm also usually darker-skinned with a little sun and my half-Spanish heritage. I never saw anyone else hassled over being crackers, either. It seemed like 90% of the tourists were Asian, though.

The Caribbean is nice and I prefer that area to Hawaii. The western coast of Mexico is also nice, but you don't get that whole 'island feel,' obviously. The Keys make a really good 'poor man's' Caribbean although it really isn't any cheaper for activities in the Keys than it is somewhere like Jamaica, Puerto Rico or some of the smaller islands. The Dominican Republic on Hispaniola is a really beautiful spanish island, but the Haiti side is a total festering shiathole. Don't try and cross the border.
 
2009-09-01 12:58:26 AM  
The Grinch: You get the same dumb crap at any tourist-heavy town. Hawaii, California coast, Jersey shore... in many cases, the 'townies' are dirt-poor because everything dries up in the off-season, and there's a heavy resentment of their dependency on tourist dollars from people of higher means than them.

Hell, look at Wildwood, NJ. (Using it because I know it best.) Beautiful beach resort over the summer, but an absolute ghetto nine months out of the year. Go into the middle of town where you can't see the ocean, and you might as well be in any run-down city. Even their school district is an Abbott district, meaning they get extra money because they're in such dire straits; their company on that list includes Trenton, New Brunswick, and most of Hudson County. Rough stuff for a 'beach vacation paradise'. Doesn't surprise me that other such places have people acting similarly.


Really.....ghetto???? Please. I grew up in Ocean City. Ever check the real estate prices anywhere in Wildwood? Those aren't ghetto prices. Wildwood is not on the abbott list. (Asbury park is)FWIW I would walk anywhere in Wildwood 24/7.
 
2009-09-01 12:58:33 AM  
Sounds like the federal government could take a few tips on dealing with minorities from the CCCP playbook.

In all seriousness, being a tourism haven must be pretty hard on the collective ego.
 
2009-09-01 12:59:34 AM  
kiapolo: Sabyen91: This is bullshiat. Hawaiins love tourists or they at least make a good act out of it. They hang loose a lot.

We love tourists...just don't forget to go home...


I was there for the Pro-Bowl in 1989. I have never been so welcomed. Yes, my hotel had hookers and drug dealers in front but we all hung loose. I loved Hawaii except for the expensive Wisconsin cheese :)
 
2009-09-01 12:59:39 AM  
guyinjeep16: a fight.

It says so right there... 6'2 200 lbs

Can't you read? Sheesh. You whites...
 
2009-09-01 01:00:11 AM  
OgreMagi: I've been to Hawaii. They put on a pretty face for the tourists, but underneath it all lies the ugliness of racism.

Wait, you are talking about the south.
 
2009-09-01 01:00:42 AM  
TheRaven7: Fano: So you are saying that African Americans should have just moved out of communities that didn't like them?

Again, yes that's exactly what I'm saying. White Hawaiians should form their own Underwater Railroad. It's too bad they haven't invented airplanes yet.


fairimmigration.files.wordpress.com

You realize these are the people on your side in this argument.

/most klansmen don't want blacks dead
//they just want them far far away from them
 
2009-09-01 01:00:45 AM  
Sabyen91: OgreMagi: I've been to Hawaii. They put on a pretty face for the tourists, but underneath it all lies the ugliness of racism.

Wait, you are talking about the south.


No. There is no pretty face, but the racism has been toned down a lot.
 
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