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2001-09-14 04:00:12 PM
Uh... shouldn't he have already done this?
 
2001-09-14 04:02:43 PM
better late than never.
 
2001-09-14 04:02:46 PM
i wonder what those statutes are...

J
 
2001-09-14 04:03:08 PM
Good call George W. I think a photoshop killing of osama bid laden would help relive some of my anger.
 
2001-09-14 04:03:09 PM
I'm kind of scared by the disclaimer.
 
2001-09-14 04:04:04 PM
Yeah. Responding to the attack, this administration is too slow, too deliberate.

Enough soft-walking. It's time to pull out the big stick.
 
2001-09-14 04:04:20 PM
How about this?
 
2001-09-14 04:04:23 PM
/agree ChildrenMcNuggets
 
2001-09-14 04:04:55 PM
 
2001-09-14 04:07:20 PM
Anyone know what this means in terms of government powers and/or changes in laws or anything of that sort?
 
2001-09-14 04:08:02 PM
Think about the amount of time it takes to recover from the shock and get going again, it is not too slow, it is caution, and to err on the cautious side is better than to push too hard and cause more dissent. Think about the insanity it would have caused that evening i.e. price gouging etc...
 
2001-09-14 04:09:02 PM
Yeah, someone with a legal background translate for the rest of us what the sections give the government power to do. I'm thinking curfews or suspension of habis corpus.
 
2001-09-14 04:10:23 PM
habeas corpus


sorry.
 
2001-09-14 04:10:54 PM
curfews? we cannot lose our rights... that is what we must fight to keep... yes, someone please explain what those sections are.... so that we can understand!
 
2001-09-14 04:13:19 PM
I'm researching right now--Title 10 refers to the Armed Forces and Title 14 refers to the Coast Guard. It's probably about deployment of troops and the Coast Guard.
 
2001-09-14 04:14:12 PM
Someguy... thank you. i pray that is all it is. and i pray for all the men and women who will be called to duty
 
2001-09-14 04:15:02 PM
OK: Section 123(a): (a) In time of war, or of national emergency declared by Congress or the President after November 30, 1980, the President may suspend the operation of any provision of law relating to the promotion, involuntary retirement, or separation of commissioned officers of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard Reserve. So long as such war or national emergency continues, any such suspension may be extended by the President.

In other words, no retiring from the military during the emergency.
 
2001-09-14 04:15:34 PM
Osama Bid Laden anagrammed spells...

DIE MAD ANAL S.O.B.
 
2001-09-14 04:16:58 PM
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
 
2001-09-14 04:17:00 PM
2201(c) says that the government will pay for the extended duty of those who aren't allowed to be discharged or retire.
 
2001-09-14 04:18:52 PM
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/unframed/50/1621.html


A couple things here, still looking...
 
2001-09-14 04:19:08 PM
You know what . We all know that the Usa gonna strike back . But this is scarying the shiat out of me . This gonna be a big war . And i try to not think about it but I remember my grant-dad talk about the WWII about how they live and everything .

I was never think one day we can live the same shiat and i think this is no good . Im canadian , but i consider very much whats happen in NY . If a war begin , this gonna change a lot of thing in this world .

We are all pissed off , i wish Bush will think before taking an action .
 
2001-09-14 04:21:24 PM
537 and 12006 say that the armed forces can exceed their legal maximum numbers, and 12302 says that the ready reserve can be called up.

The sections of Title 14 essentially do the same things for the Coast Guard.
 
2001-09-14 04:22:02 PM
Sec 527 deals with the suspension of other sections dealing with the distribution of officers in each rank/grade.

http://uscode.house.gov/usc.htm allows you to search US Code by Title and section.
 
2001-09-14 04:24:08 PM
Well, looks like we really ARE going to war. But the question still remains... with who?
 
2001-09-14 04:27:43 PM
I think that we are calling in so many troops because it is going to be a ground based assault... maybe air... probably in a land locked country. The coast guard is on call... to guard... well... the coasts...
 
2001-09-14 04:27:49 PM
probably inappropriate, but last Sunday's Futurama was the one where Fry and Bender joined the army to get the 5% military discount card so they could buy "Big Pink" the gum with the breath freshening power of ham.

sorry, the explanation of section 123 just reminded me.
 
2001-09-14 04:28:41 PM
All of these statutes are for Homeland Defense. None of these titles or codes pertains to all out war. Everyone calm down.
 
2001-09-14 04:29:58 PM
Take the President's proclamation and use this tool to look up the individual parts. Interesting stuff.
 
2001-09-14 04:31:39 PM
One of you says he's "too slow, too deliberate", another says that you wish he'd think before taking action. Make you farkin minds up.
 
2001-09-14 04:33:54 PM
All the governement know with who . They wait for the good moment to say it .

they prepare the public opinion wisely before doing an act
 
2001-09-14 04:34:05 PM
is it just me, or is the link farked?
 
2001-09-14 04:34:53 PM
never mind, my connection stinks
 
2001-09-14 04:36:38 PM
Cornell law library has the entire US code, just use the search feature and enter the title and section

I can code (maybe)
 
2001-09-14 04:40:33 PM
white dragon...every islamic fundamentalist that supports with the holy war(jihad) against the united states. thats the who. the hard part is the where.. as you and the rest of us just found out...here as well as... (pick any country where islamic fundamentalist reside). appears that we have a long hard row to hoe.
 
sid
2001-09-14 04:40:52 PM
I declared a national emergency when he was sworn in.
 
2001-09-14 04:42:59 PM
You know, I've made fun of the ads for the Coast Guard Reserves ("It's an important job!") and the people who joined them. Now I feel guilty.
 
2001-09-14 04:45:05 PM
Snuffy So we are declaring a sort of... anti "jihad" against them. Hmmm... an interesting concept. It would seem that if that is in fact the case then we will need to rip up a good portion of the middle east. Which worrys me... this whole thing could turn sour really quickly.
 
2001-09-14 04:50:05 PM
BuRz
Like Yoda you talk. Much confusion fills my brain...
 
2001-09-14 04:53:22 PM
YODA ROCKS! He should be VP of Fark!!
 
2001-09-14 04:59:44 PM
This will not be like WWII. We are fighting a small but determined and well-hidden enemy. The demand for men and material will not be excessive. There will be some security clampdowns. To do otherwise is to invite disaster.

We are fighting for freedom, to be sure. But look at what freedoms a soldier gives up when he agrees to fight. Too numerous to list here, but they include the freedom of self-expression, to go and do what one wishes, to travel, to marry another soldier of another rank, to engage in 'sodomy' (including oral sex), etc.

Also: the way the Army is currently structured, the Reserves MUST be called up if we are to engage in any major action. General Abrams did this shortly after Vietnam, so that the nation would be mobilized behind the Army. (Calling up the reserves is a sign to the nation that we are serious.)

I've mentioned this elsewhere: I am in the Inactive Ready Reserves. I will go, if they call me. And I will fight, given the chance.

We are not fighting a conventional war, so the experience is not at all similar to what our grandparents went through in the '40s.
 
2001-09-14 05:08:06 PM
FreddyFreedom: I wish I could make up our collective farking mind. That would be nice. I kind of like having opposition, though. I'm a war-monger, I guess.
 
2001-09-14 05:15:49 PM
 
2001-09-14 05:22:36 PM
"I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein
 
2001-09-14 05:30:18 PM
I may be wrong here, but I cannot find 'anything' about a Declaration of National Emergency, either on the AP site, or the Washington Post site, by just typing the url.
http://wire.ap.org
http://www.washingtonpost.com
 
2001-09-14 05:32:44 PM
Retired people can be called up? Umm, Im confused...
 
2001-09-14 05:42:45 PM
My nephew (30 yrs old) has been out of the Navy for 4 years.

He's going to re-enlist.
 
2001-09-14 05:43:30 PM
Retired officers.

They're called "retired" because they have retired their commission. Even though they may be only 25 years old.
 
2001-09-14 05:51:09 PM
Next door neighbor is a full bird colonel in the Army reserves....he's headed for Ft. Hood and then who knows where....
 
2001-09-14 06:03:48 PM
Proud 2B:

Its on CNNs page about the President visiting NY.
 
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