More unfortunate than sad. Grizzly's are becoming a big problem in Montana and Wyoming. It's getting so bad in areas that this thing is going to start happening more frequently. In some of the heavily populated grizzly areas, the bears have learned to go towards gun shots as they mean a free meal for the bear.

The bear had been dead about a month.

It was a grisly find.

doglover: BGates: More unfortunate than sad.

So habitat loss is in no way responsible for this? At this point in history, all problems with animals are humans' fault. We can go to to the farkin moon and find particles so small they have no mass.

We can find a home for a bear. The people who shot it deserve similar treatment.

I'd suggest you visit this part of the world before jumping to conclusions such as you have. Grizzly's are still on the endangered species list, so killing them (even under self defense situations) can carry some very stern penalties. We don't know the situation of this killing. It might have been a hiker acting in self defense.

first thing i thought of. (new window)

cause this thread could use some levity.

HowlingFrog: The bear had been dead about a month.

It was a grisly find.

On more information, it appears the bear committed suicide.
Looks like it was just too much...to bear.

/YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Didn't see the first bear for about a half-hour. Grizzly. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin' from the dorsal to the butt. What we didn't know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, bears come cruisin' by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the bear come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and sometimes that bear he go away... But sometimes he wouldn't go away.

Sometimes that bear looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a bear is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin' and your hollerin' those bears come in and... they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many bears there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin', Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson's mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol' fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the bears took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

/Anyway, we delivered the bomb.

CtrlAltDelete: Didn't see the first bear for about a half-hour. Grizzly. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin' from the dorsal to the butt. What we didn't know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, bears come cruisin' by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the bear come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and sometimes that bear he go away... But sometimes he wouldn't go away.

Sometimes that bear looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a bear is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin' and your hollerin' those bears come in and... they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many bears there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin', Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson's mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol' fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the bears took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

/Anyway, we delivered the bomb.

The ranger is mad, Yogi.

I found the killer! (youtube, pops)

Came for the Colbert reference. Leaving satisfied.

CtrlAltDelete

So, you were on the ursinopolis?

BGates - Having lived in many places that had a lot of bear, people need to learn to live with them. It's really not all that hard and bear are not such a problem to live with that they require being killed.

Do a GIS "living in bear country" if you need some info to help you become a better human when it comes to dealing/living with bears.

BGates: doglover: BGates: More unfortunate than sad.

So habitat loss is in no way responsible for this? At this point in history, all problems with animals are humans' fault. We can go to to the farkin moon and find particles so small they have no mass.

We can find a home for a bear. The people who shot it deserve similar treatment.

I'd suggest you visit this part of the world before jumping to conclusions such as you have. Grizzly's are still on the endangered species list, so killing them (even under self defense situations) can carry some very stern penalties. We don't know the situation of this killing. It might have been a hiker acting in self defense.

You are correct that the grizzlies are becoming more of a problem in our area. I live in Wyoming also (and went to WSU for graduate studies, go cougs, don't coug it!).

At the same time, we have ranchers that will shoot anything they feel is a threat, whether it is or isn't is irrelevant to some of them. We also have a goodly amount of poaching douchebags in both states, although I doubt this was the case in this article, since the bear was just left. I would like to know what kind of weapon killed the grizzly. I glanced over the article and didn't see any reference to that information.

I do think that a limited grizzly season is due in Wyoming. It should mirror what Florida did for gators (gators reproduce faster than grizzlies though and Florida is still being overrun by gators).

Some folks say there ain't no bears in Arkansas
Some folks never seen a bear at all
Some folks say that bears go around eating babies raw
Some folks got a bear across the hall

Some folks say that bears go around smelling bad
Others say that a bear is honey sweet
Some folks say this bears the best I ever had
Some folks got a bear beneath their feet

Some folks drive the bears out of the wilderness
Some to see a bear would pay a fee
Me I just bear up to bewildered best
And some folks even see the bear in me

So meet a bear and take him out to lunch with you
And even though your friends may stop and stare
Just remember that's a bear there in the bunch with you
And they just don't come no better than a bear



/ Steven Fromholz
/// via Lyle Lovett

sofarked: BGates - Having lived in many places that had a lot of bear, people need to learn to live with them. It's really not all that hard and bear are not such a problem to live with that they require being killed.

Do a GIS "living in bear country" if you need some info to help you become a better human when it comes to dealing/living with bears.

This is a good point, but it is true that the grizzly in Wyoming have learned to have no fear of humans or gunshots. I used to live in Cody, WY and up at Pahaska Tepee, it was a well known problem. Grizzlies will come to the sound of gunshots in that region. You really can't compare it to Alaska or Canada in that respect.

It's a beautiful day, let's kill something.

Johnny Horton approves (new window)

iaazathot: I do think that a limited grizzly season is due in Wyoming.

I have the same feeling.

If it was poaching, then they should get caught and penalized. But since they didn't take the animal, I have a feeling it wasn't that case.

/Where in Wyo you living now?

I just got back from Virginia. We were in Shenandoah. We were lucky to have seen several deer and two black bears. I can't see why anyone could bring themselves to shoot a beautiful animal.They should be put in a cage with a bear and given a pocket knife.

BGates: doglover: BGates:

I'd suggest you visit this part of the world before jumping to conclusions such as you have. Grizzly's are still on the endangered species list, so killing them (even under self defense situations) can carry some very stern penalties. We don't know the situation of this killing. It might have been a hiker acting in self defense.

Yeah, and I'm sure the defense was "he's coming right for me!". People are idiots where bears are concerned. Forgive some of us who actually live in bear country for automatically blaming the poor besieged hiker because there are so few ways of actually avoiding bear contact.

sofarked: BGates - Having lived in many places that had a lot of bear, people need to learn to live with them. It's really not all that hard and bear are not such a problem to live with that they require being killed.

Do a GIS "living in bear country" if you need some info to help you become a better human when it comes to dealing/living with bears.

I have no problem living with bears. But a person has to be proactive when doing so. Remember, that not all bears act the same, the older a bear gets the more willing it is to go after, easier prey, such as cattle, people, pets, etc...

BGates: doglover: BGates: More unfortunate than sad.

So habitat loss is in no way responsible for this? At this point in history, all problems with animals are humans' fault. We can go to to the farkin moon and find particles so small they have no mass.

We can find a home for a bear. The people who shot it deserve similar treatment.

I'd suggest you visit this part of the world before jumping to conclusions such as you have. Grizzly's are still on the endangered species list, so killing them (even under self defense situations) can carry some very stern penalties. We don't know the situation of this killing. It might have been a hiker acting in self defense.


Grizzly's what?

scottydoesntknow: Only bears that deserve to be shot:


And then I want them revived, shot again, and lit on fire, preferably using Charmin as a starter.

/Loves bears, hates shiatty commercials



Heh heh heh heh heh...you said "sh*t"...heh heh heh heh heh

This is pretty much how all 'sport hunters' behave if they think they can get away with it.

If they don't respect nature enough to go and kill things for fun, it pretty much casts a heavy farkin shadow over any protestation that "they would never do that".

If I was hunting, and an 800 pound bear came at me, I'd kill it. All you "save the animals!!!!" people in this thread need a reality check. Give the bear a hug instead of shooting it, and it will be a "bear mauls retard hippie to death" thread next time.

Epiphany: If I was hunting, and an 800 pound bear came at me, I'd kill it. All you "save the animals!!!!" people in this thread need a reality check. Give the bear a hug instead of shooting it, and it will be a "bear mauls retard hippie to death" thread next time.

A little over a month ago it was, "Californian gets gored by bison in Yellowstone". Apparently they don't like it when you go up and try to pet them.

Epiphany: If I was hunting, and an 800 pound bear came at me, I'd kill it. All you "save the animals!!!!" people in this thread need a reality check. Give the bear a hug instead of shooting it, and it will be a "bear mauls retard hippie to death" thread next time.

Yeah. Sorry. Carnivore 4 times my size coming at me, thats a viable threat.

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But was he tender hearted?

Maybe the killer was just defending himself.

I offer this as precedent. (pops, NSFW)

/hot like guard hairs

I do think that a limited grizzly season is due in Wyoming. It should mirror what Florida did for gators (gators reproduce faster than grizzlies though and Florida is still being overrun by gators).

Will bears eat alligators?

I took this picture of a grizzly a few days ago, from less than 10 yards away. It approached me, walking down the stream catching fish. I took a couple of pix and then backed away, pepper spray in hand.

I live on Kodiak Island and see bears all the time. They're pretty safe to be around, except in the early spring and late fall when they're hungry. Anybody who thinks they need to shoot a bear just because it approaches, is an idiot or a wannabe cowboy.">">

keithrogan: I took this picture of a grizzly a few days ago, from less than 10 yards away. It approached me, walking down the stream catching fish. I took a couple of pix and then backed away, pepper spray in hand.

I live on Kodiak Island and see bears all the time. They're pretty safe to be around, except in the early spring and late fall when they're hungry. Anybody who thinks they need to shoot a bear just because it approaches, is an idiot or a wannabe cowboy.">">

Yeah bears are really safe to be around. Bring the kids and put a bow in it's hair!

BGates: I'd suggest you visit this part of the world before jumping to conclusions such as you have. Grizzly's are still on the endangered species list, so killing them (even under self defense situations) can carry some very stern penalties. We don't know the situation of this killing. It might have been a hiker acting in self defense.

A hiker who just happens to carry around a rifle with enough stopping power to drop a grizzly? What, your "strength training" requires you to carry around a linear weight like that?

This is what happens when the Right to Bear Arms is infringed

sofarked: BGates - Having lived in many places that had a lot of bear, people need to learn to live with them. It's really not all that hard and bear are not such a problem to live with that they require being killed.

Do a GIS "living in bear country" if you need some info to help you become a better human when it comes to dealing/living with bears.

How many human deaths by large predators is acceptable?