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(Jim Henley)   "The government works perfectly well at ensuring the lifestyles of defense contractors and investment bankers. That is its purpose."   (highclearing.com ) divider line 143
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2009-08-19 03:35:07 PM  
And the concern trolling continues
 
2009-08-19 04:45:39 PM  
I've never heard the purpose of the US government summed up so precisely. No offense, but you guys rag on England for it's monarchy all the time, but with the direction your country's headed...*shakes head*
 
2009-08-19 05:26:02 PM  
Well no shiat, paging ric romero
 
2009-08-19 05:36:02 PM  
What about big oil and pharma?
 
2009-08-19 05:36:38 PM  
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

-Anatole France
 
2009-08-19 05:37:57 PM  
Unqualified Offerings: Looking Sideways at Your World Since October 2001

So you're admittedly "unqualified" and have a "sideways" perspective on what you consider to be my world? How more clearly can you state that your opinion shouldn't be considered?
 
2009-08-19 05:42:54 PM  

mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?


Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.
 
2009-08-19 05:45:31 PM  

YoMammaObama: mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?

Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.


Don't forget health insurance company executives.
 
2009-08-19 05:49:13 PM  

YoMammaObama: mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?
Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.


Well the whole MILITARY is government employees, so you're redundant.

Edsel:
YoMammaObama: mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?
Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.
Don't forget health insurance company executives.



Guys, NOTHING approaches the "defense" industry. The others are annoying and bad yeah whatever.

No one has started a war to benefit those other industries.
 
2009-08-19 05:50:14 PM  

This thread needs some pics of

Senator Conflict of Interest


www.nndb.com

She keeps her defense contractor hubby happy

 
2009-08-19 05:57:02 PM  
Wow, that sounds like something straight out of a Noam Chomsky essay. The right wing of American politics has gone so far right that they've circumnavigated the political spectrum.
 
2009-08-19 05:57:30 PM  
There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.
 
2009-08-19 06:01:34 PM  
farked? link won't load
 
2009-08-19 06:01:54 PM  

ghare: YoMammaObama: mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?
Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.

Well the whole MILITARY is government employees, so you're redundant.

Edsel: YoMammaObama: mandrsn1: What about big oil and pharma?
Don't forget Lawyers and government employees.
Don't forget health insurance company executives.


Guys, NOTHING approaches the "defense" industry. The others are annoying and bad yeah whatever.

No one has started a war to benefit those other industries.


We have gone to war for fruit companies, oil companies, mining companies, and plenty of other industries, however.
 
2009-08-19 06:02:34 PM  

Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.


You are soooo full of shiat. Are you telling me that more than 37 million Americans are living below the poverty line because they don't work and pray hard enough? Go back to the 700 club, jackass.
 
2009-08-19 06:05:30 PM  
Sorry, The GOP fell for Bill Clinton's "rope-a-dope" ploy many times until he slipped on some spooge.

I don't think Obama is that manipulative,
he's more of the "follow my spirit" type.

But most leaders are realistic as to who really playing the game.
And while very progressive, Obama isn't a fool.
He looks like he's trying to play both sides,
supporting the capitalist infrastructure and interests,
while trying to get progressive "net" ideas through supposedly to remove the inefficiencies in the system...and long-term rising costs.
And pushing the capitalists to see how this would benefit them.

And I really don't see large-scale capitalists opposing him.
Its mostly right-wing idealists who are battling the dems.
And deficit hawks putting the brakes on a bit.

At least this is what I'm observing through the ups and downs.

It doesn't seem that Obama is anti-capitalist.
Actually, it seems that he and his like their money and its uses very well.
 
2009-08-19 06:08:14 PM  

Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.


Bullshiat. I've known a few people that can and do work your ass under the table day-in and day-out that live below the poverty line, they just lack valuable skills.
 
2009-08-19 06:10:31 PM  

Zagloba: We have gone to war for fruit companies, oil companies, mining companies, and plenty of other industries, however.


"War is a racket."
- 4-star Gen. Smedley Butler, 1935
 
2009-08-19 06:11:57 PM  
Hey, the world needs more janitors than CEOs. There's a reason pyramids are pointy at the top.
 
2009-08-19 06:13:35 PM  

Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.


I'm lazy and worship Satan.
So clearly that whole Gawd thang ain't working so well.
 
2009-08-19 06:15:02 PM  

illusi0n: Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.

Bullshiat. I've known a few people that can and do work your ass under the table day-in and day-out that live below the poverty line, they just lack valuable skills.


And that's not even getting into the flaws of Smith economics in regards to the monetary value of labor.

Or corporate greed, and why IT personnel tend to work 70+ hour work weeks while wages stagnate, benefits vanish, but the management was somehow able to purchase a brand new Beamer while our company's profits are disappearing.

Just saying.

/bitter IT guy
 
2009-08-19 06:20:57 PM  

Trey Le Parc: Hey, the world needs more janitors than CEOs. There's a reason pyramids are pointy at the top.


Yeah, but if we need janitors so much, how come we pay them less than survival wages?
 
2009-08-19 06:23:04 PM  
think of the Wizard of Oz film.

the Governemnt is the flaming Wizard that Dorothy and the others are afraid of, and the man pulling the strings behind the curtain is the wealthy and big business.
 
2009-08-19 06:23:08 PM  
Semi-Sane
Again: How more clearly can you state that your opinion shouldn't be considered?

I really don't get why people reply to those who might as well have the name "Obvious Troll."
 
2009-08-19 06:24:46 PM  
thinkprogress.org
 
2009-08-19 06:25:49 PM  
"The government works perfectly well at ensuring the lifestyles of defense contractors and investment bankers. That is its purpose."

I work for a defence contractor s I am getting a kick out your replies, yadda yadda yadda....

Thanks everyone of you!

I am now leaving work and I am going to use the money you paid in taxes which pay my salary to buy a nice six pack. I am think about getting a nice IPA.

I will drink it and pee in the compost pit.

Ain't life grand?
 
2009-08-19 06:26:43 PM  

Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.

images.starcraftmazter.net
 
2009-08-19 06:27:11 PM  

Linux_Yes: think of the Wizard of Oz film.

the Governemnt is the flaming Wizard that Dorothy and the others are afraid of, and the man pulling the strings behind the curtain is the wealthy and big business.


and you're the scarecrow?
 
2009-08-19 06:27:12 PM  

Zagloba: Trey Le Parc: Hey, the world needs more janitors than CEOs. There's a reason pyramids are pointy at the top.

Yeah, but if we need janitors so much, how come we pay them less than survival wages?


Because they're usually black or hispanic, I mean minorities, I mean their labor is of less value.
 
2009-08-19 06:29:48 PM  

Mastervader: Because they're usually black or hispanic, I mean minorities, I mean their labor is of less value.


remember the good old days when janitors were mostly white dudes and were paid accordingly and how they'd sit around drinking scotch and smoking cigars with the titans of industry?

GTs. GTs
 
2009-08-19 06:34:23 PM  

Semi-Sane: Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.


has either never met someone living in poverty, or has never met someone with a real work ethic. Go blow a pony, troll.
 
2009-08-19 06:39:10 PM  

skullkrusher: remember the good old days when janitors were mostly white dudes and were paid accordingly and how they'd sit around drinking scotch and smoking cigars with the titans of industry?


You try running a Fortune 500 company with no janitors. See how long that lasts.

Ha! I've just proved that the value differential on a janitorial staff is BEELLIONS OF DOLLARS!

weblogs.baltimoresun.com
 
2009-08-19 06:39:53 PM  
img40.imageshack.us


No! There is no government, just a few multi-national corporations that run everything.
 
2009-08-19 06:40:54 PM  

Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.


Wrong. Equal opportunity does not directly translate to equal results.
 
2009-08-19 06:42:10 PM  
privatize us courts
 
2009-08-19 06:45:08 PM  
B..b..but Obama said he was going to take on the defense industry!
 
2009-08-19 06:50:10 PM  

Semi-Sane: Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.



img341.imageshack.us
 
2009-08-19 06:51:29 PM  

PainSorrowLoss: illusi0n: Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.

Bullshiat. I've known a few people that can and do work your ass under the table day-in and day-out that live below the poverty line, they just lack valuable skills.

And that's not even getting into the flaws of Smith economics in regards to the monetary value of labor.

Or corporate greed, and why IT personnel tend to work 70+ hour work weeks while wages stagnate, benefits vanish, but the management was somehow able to purchase a brand new Beamer while our company's profits are disappearing.

Just saying.

/bitter IT guy



You work in IT. If you can't figure out how to use your ability to run the computer network, to intercept enough emails to make a fortune off of the insider information, then you simply don't WANT that brand new beamer enough.

Go read "Bastard Operator From Hell", and apply every one of those tricks in such a fashion as to generate income.

If you want the management to fear you, then you must *make* them fear you. After using a few emails to expose guys cheating on thier wives, and therefore ruin thier marraiges, the others should tread lightly around you.

Or not, who knows.. be sure to let me know how it all works out.

;)
 
2009-08-19 06:52:44 PM  

General Zang: PainSorrowLoss: illusi0n: Semi-Sane: There are always and will always be inequalities in every system. People are greedy and easily corrupted. It is a part of human nature. You have to learn to accept it.

Though there isn't a single person in the US with a good work ethic who is living in poverty. All it takes to climb the ranks of the system is a good work ethic, persistence, optimism, and a love of God. No one in the US is being oppressed or denied ample opportunity to improve their life.

Bullshiat. I've known a few people that can and do work your ass under the table day-in and day-out that live below the poverty line, they just lack valuable skills.

And that's not even getting into the flaws of Smith economics in regards to the monetary value of labor.

Or corporate greed, and why IT personnel tend to work 70+ hour work weeks while wages stagnate, benefits vanish, but the management was somehow able to purchase a brand new Beamer while our company's profits are disappearing.

Just saying.

/bitter IT guy


You work in IT. If you can't figure out how to use your ability to run the computer network, to intercept enough emails to make a fortune off of the insider information, then you simply don't WANT that brand new beamer enough.

Go read "Bastard Operator From Hell", and apply every one of those tricks in such a fashion as to generate income.

If you want the management to fear you, then you must *make* them fear you. After using a few emails to expose guys cheating on thier wives, and therefore ruin thier marraiges, the others should tread lightly around you.

Or not, who knows.. be sure to let me know how it all works out.

;)


There was an IT director or worker here in San Fran that thought he was hot shiat too. He ended up locking the city's network down and found himself on the business end of handcuffs.
 
2009-08-19 06:56:05 PM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: alostpacket: And the concern trolling continues

No joke anybody seen the main page lately? It's like a giant troll is running the link approval process.


And yet here we are, commenting on each and every one. What happened to "ignore it and it will go away?"
 
2009-08-19 06:57:09 PM  
The Aristocrats!
 
2009-08-19 07:07:34 PM  

Zagloba: Trey Le Parc: Hey, the world needs more janitors than CEOs. There's a reason pyramids are pointy at the top.

Yeah, but if we need janitors so much, how come we pay them less than survival wages?


You could, you know, start a business and pay them more. I don't know if YOU specifically are the YOU in the following sentence but it boggles my mind how YOU can feel entitled to things that aren't yours. I don't know if that is YOU, again, but it might be and your comment struck that chord with me.

By the way, this is the way it has been and the way it will continue to be so long as people continue to vote with their heart as opposed to using a wee bit of logic. I still get a kick out of the people who voted for "change." Man they brighten up my life as I am continually amused by their ignorance, bitter denials, and juvenile name calling. I already lost faith in humanity so watching this is really entertaining to me.

Lost Thought 00: The Aristocrats!


I was thinking Republicrats personally.
 
2009-08-19 07:07:50 PM  
static.crooksandliars.com
 
2009-08-19 07:16:47 PM  

alostpacket: And the concern trolling continues


Despite the trollish slant in the article, the headline is completely accurate.

Our government has been bought and paid for by big business. Our better interest is not served, rather the general public is appeased just enough to angrily shake their collective fists, but not really do anything. Big business wins. They have the money, they make the rules.
 
2009-08-19 07:17:38 PM  
It's a good piece, actually, thoughtful and not trollsome en toto. I get the impression that the author is solidly progressive. The three schools of thought he presents concerning the political sails of Obama are standard variations of opinion among liberals like me. I vacillate every few days between the three, if I'm paying attention to the news.

The main point made that is being ignored is that, even if Obama is working hard to enact a progressive agenda, even if the work is behind the scenes (was the recent public option off/public option on fiasco a fiasco or brilliant political maneuvering?), our nation is still hurtling towards oligarchy, with the class of investment bankers and defense contractors living in walled enclaves and everyone else poor and hardscrabble.

Corporations and manufacturers want middle class markets for their goods but I believe if they can ensure that the government is their "middle class market" they aren't going to worry too much about the millions of have-nots in the new evolved oligarchy. The ROI of paying a workforce a living wage so they can buy your goods may not be attractive in comparison to the ROI of paying most of the workforce sub-living wages and accepting slightly smaller sales.

Sigh, I need to go make a pie.
 
2009-08-19 07:18:32 PM  

UnspokenVoice: You could, you know, start a business and pay them more. I don't know if YOU specifically are the YOU in the following sentence but it boggles my mind how YOU can feel entitled to things that aren't yours. I don't know if that is YOU, again, but it might be and your comment struck that chord with me.


Part of the social contract is ensuring that anyone who contributes full-time labor to the economy gets compensated enough to live on.
 
2009-08-19 07:19:50 PM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: alostpacket: And the concern trolling continues

No joke anybody seen the main page lately? It's like a giant troll is running the link approval process.


Awww... widdle Obamibots canno take duh heat?

/should have stayed out of the kitchen!
 
2009-08-19 07:30:43 PM  

RockIsDead: TheGhostofFarkPast: alostpacket: And the concern trolling continues

No joke anybody seen the main page lately? It's like a giant troll is running the link approval process.

Awww... widdle Obamibots canno take duh heat?

/should have stayed out of the kitchen!


Do you ever type anything that doesn't make you seem like a dull coont? I mean seriously, every single time. Are you trying to cement yourself in everyone's mind as a dimwitted fark to be pitied?
 
2009-08-19 07:35:18 PM  
"The government works perfectly well at ensuring the lifestyles of defense contractors and investment bankers. stealing and dolling out money to their friends. That is its purpose."

FIXED
 
2009-08-19 07:40:11 PM  
Just limit Government spending to Constitutionally mandated items and that will fark the MIEC.
 
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