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(News.com.au)   Officials wonder if top female athlete is really a guy because of his/her facial hair and muscle build (w/ 'decide for yourself' picture)   (news.com.au) divider line 100
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2009-08-19 11:02:32 AM
She is still on the start list. Link (new window)
 
2009-08-19 11:19:09 AM
From those shorts it doesn't look like a weener is present
 
2009-08-19 11:24:49 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Yeah... I'm gonna have to wait for the genetic tests to make this one official...
 
2009-08-19 11:45:07 AM
If her/his name were Obama or she/he were a tennis champion, she/he would be put on Most Beautiful lists.

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2009-08-19 11:54:23 AM
barneyfifesbullet: If her/his name were Obama or she/he were a tennis champion, she/he would be put on Most Beautiful lists.

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Fail troll is failing.
 
2009-08-19 11:54:49 AM
stolibro: Yeah... I'm gonna have to wait for the genetic tests to make this one official...

THATS 2PAC!!!
 
2009-08-19 11:55:24 AM
Looks like a dude but there is no way you could hide a peen in those shorts.
 
2009-08-19 11:58:50 AM
stolibro: Yeah... I'm gonna have to wait for the genetic tests to make this one official...

with that picture I can see more reason for confusion
 
2009-08-19 12:00:57 PM
belome: Yikes

Link (new window)


Yeeeaaah... that used to be a dude.
 
2009-08-19 12:03:51 PM
i6.photobucket.com
 
2009-08-19 12:29:05 PM
kitryne: Now, I don't have a unit, but I imagine it would be really tricky to run like hell with your shiat doing the ol' tuck n roll. Chafing, and whatnot.

Steroids, yes. Meat and 2 veg? I'd be willing to believe no.


I lol'd at this comment... and clicked to view the profile of this wit! Now I'm in love!
 
2009-08-19 12:30:38 PM
kitryne: Meat and 2 veg?

Are you using that as a euphemism for the old frank and beans? I really, really hope so because that's really funny.
 
2009-08-19 01:01:50 PM
www.sun-sentinel.com
 
2009-08-19 01:48:34 PM
barneyfifesbullet: If her/his name were Obama or she/he were a tennis champion, she/he would be put on Most Beautiful lists.

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10/10
 
2009-08-19 01:58:29 PM
presstheactionbutton.files.wordpress.com
/first thing I thought of after looking at pic
 
2009-08-19 02:00:16 PM
checking shouldn't be that hard... Get a doctor to go in a room with her and say drop your shorts. If you see a penis it's a man, if a vajay-jay then a woman. If a dud were to have the unit cut off then well let him compete as a chick because dammit that there is some dedication!
 
2009-08-19 02:10:09 PM
There are simple, inexpensive tests which can be applied:

Has (s)he ever been seen buying cushions?
How many pairs of shoes does (s)he own?
Did (s)he manage to park her/his car when she/he arrived at the stadium?
Does (s)he understand the offside rule?
Is (s)he immensely proud of the skid marks in her/his gusset?
 
2009-08-19 02:15:20 PM
I would assume that a male pretending to be a female would wax that facial hair off. Since this person did not, I am assuming an indifferent, masculine female. Very, very masculine.
 
2009-08-19 03:22:01 PM
The Dreaded Rear Admiral: calbert: /oblig

Hail, hail, Robonia... a laaaaand I didn't make uuuuuuup!


Came for these, leaving satisfied.
 
2009-08-19 03:22:46 PM
No hips, man.
 
2009-08-19 03:50:12 PM
She won.

Link (new window)

1:55.45 is flying.
 
2009-08-19 04:05:04 PM
tortilla burger: From those shorts it doesn't look like a weener is present

Is this a meme? If not, I don't think anyone's actually suggesting there is a schlong in tow. Little bit more complex than that.

/If it is, shucks.
 
2009-08-19 04:17:18 PM
Denial_of_Death: Looks like (s)he stuck her(?) head in a golf ball dimpler.



You rang?

pinoyobserver.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-08-19 04:19:24 PM
Speedbts alt: Yeah, how's that 1970's science curriculum working out for ya?

Please. Until the 2000 Olympics, the old Barr Body test was still used. While it isn't used (much) anymore, it is still completely possible for an athlete to be disqualified on the basis of a sex determination test. For example, in 2006 an Indian 'woman' was stripped of her medal at the Asian Games.

Furthermore, the idea that your 'intersex' link somehow means that XX and XY aren't the only two non-mutant genotypes is silly. If the presence of a single Y chromosome confers some athletic advantage (which is highly debatable), then they should not compete against true females.
 
2009-08-19 04:46:52 PM
Just saw this topic discussed on MSNBC.

The guest they had on made the following observation: "intersex" genders are a lot more common than the public is aware and that in the USA, there are actually MORE people of intersex gender than there are Jews! (He noted that he was Jewish, himself)

Sexual reassignment surgery isn't just restricted to complete sex changes, they are often conducted to make someone one gender or the other. They used to do this when they were kids, but I think the practice is now to wait until puberty and see what they self-identify in regard to gender.

(I had a classmate in high school whose younger sibling had testicles inside, but female genitalia in outward appearance. I don't know what the parents ended up doing, but I do know that kid had to go through several surgeries to correct the issue.)
 
2009-08-19 04:48:08 PM
ChubbyTiger: Speedbts alt: Yeah, how's that 1970's science curriculum working out for ya?

Please. Until the 2000 Olympics, the old Barr Body test was still used. While it isn't used (much) anymore, it is still completely possible for an athlete to be disqualified on the basis of a sex determination test. For example, in 2006 an Indian 'woman' was stripped of her medal at the Asian Games.

Furthermore, the idea that your 'intersex' link somehow means that XX and XY aren't the only two non-mutant genotypes is silly. If the presence of a single Y chromosome confers some athletic advantage (which is highly debatable), then they should not compete against true females.


Arbitrary standard will be arbitrary.

I like the genetic variant test. It's objective, definitive (how many mutant genotypes are there? XXX, XXY, XYY, X, Y, right? No YY or YYY AFAIK) and easily enforceable. You can't ingest some girl blood before a race to show an XX genotype, right?

That chick just looks like the inheritor of some screwy genetics. She's only 18, so she may have delayed (or permanently altered) some of her more feminine features by working out so much.
 
2009-08-19 05:52:13 PM
Easy test - see if he/she can run in high heels.
 
2009-08-19 05:55:38 PM
Farkomatic: Easy test - see if he/she can run in high heels.

That makes her a prostitute, not a woman.
 
2009-08-19 05:58:21 PM
If you have a Y, you are a guy?
 
2009-08-19 06:28:14 PM
Just imagine if 'she' is 100% female how bad this conroversy must be for her self-esteem.

She could end up posting on

Link (new window)
 
2009-08-19 06:36:52 PM
Dr Dreidel: how many mutant genotypes are there? XXX, XXY, XYY, X, Y, right? No YY or YYY AFAIK

Farkers old enough to remember the video for "Some Like it Hot" by The Power Station may also remember that the model who appeared in it (Caroline Cossey aka Tula) was an unusual case of Klinefelter's - XXXY. Hormone therapy by age 17, followed by fake boobs, and sex change surgery at age 20.

(And now you know - all of those who used to fap to her - the rest of the story.)

I do kind of wonder how many X's you have to have before it outweighs that Y.
 
2009-08-19 06:51:31 PM
www.paramountpictures.co.uk

Can perform a simple, accurate gender test
 
2009-08-19 06:58:47 PM
news.bbc.co.uk /hot

/sometimes accurate?
 
2009-08-19 07:19:26 PM
Wow, who knew Michelle Obama was such a fast runner? Good for her!
 
2009-08-19 07:29:18 PM
I think it's funny that they need all these doctors to perform a gender test. Draw blood. Do DNA typing. Search for gender markers. Done. There's no need for gynocologists, endocrinologists, specialists....it's overkill.

Haven't these people watched CSI?
 
2009-08-19 07:29:41 PM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /hot

/sometimes accurate?


Actually, the digit ratio theory has SOME credibility. Though, if it's theoretically true (and related to prenatal androgens as thought), a gay man could also have the "female" index & ring finger ratio.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17432_6-ridiculous-sex-myths-that-are-actually-t r ue.html

^For further reading
 
2009-08-19 07:31:43 PM
stolibro: Yeah... I'm gonna have to wait for the genetic tests to make this one official...



That picture almost looks 'shopped. Like they put a man's head on a woman's body. Freaky.


Call me crazy here, but whatever happened to female athletes actually looking like women? You can be strong and built and physically capable without looking like a bad drag queen. I remember watching footage of East German athletes in the Olympics many, many, many years ago and they looked nothing like any woman I've ever seen in my life. Necks like tree stumps, forearms and thighs like tree stumps, facial hair and heads the size of honeydew melons.
 
2009-08-19 07:52:06 PM
Semenya!!
 
2009-08-19 08:28:17 PM
I heard she was born in Hawaii.
 
2009-08-19 08:32:42 PM
Before or after it became a state?
 
2009-08-19 11:49:19 PM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /hot

/sometimes accurate?


Isn't that the gay test too?
 
2009-08-20 12:38:09 AM
I feel bad for the guy. No way in hell I would ever cut off my junk to pull obvious shenanigans like this.
 
2009-08-20 01:08:26 AM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /hot

/sometimes accurate?


According to this I'm actually a woman. I guess I better return the Dickies and go buy a new dress
 
2009-08-20 08:57:59 AM
No one cares about women sports anyway (except beach volleyball).
Just combine them all. Men might have an advantage in most cases, but then again, so do tall people or soccer players with three legs.
 
2009-08-20 01:24:07 PM
gimmeabreak: RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /hot

/sometimes accurate?

According to this I'm actually a woman. I guess I better return the Dickies and go buy a new dress


And I'm apparently a man.
Guess that explains why I hate dress shopping?
 
2009-08-20 08:47:18 PM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /hot

/sometimes accurate?


Whee, so I'm still a woman then.
 
2009-08-21 12:17:10 AM
generaltimmy: Could they not find a better picture?

They did, and that's it.
 
2009-08-21 12:21:14 AM
BendreGiant: Farkomatic: Easy test - see if he/she can run in high heels.

That makes her a prostitute, not a woman.


There's a difference?
 
2009-08-21 03:24:13 AM
Hoopido: BendreGiant: Farkomatic: Easy test - see if he/she can run in high heels.

That makes her a prostitute, not a woman.

There's a difference?


A prostitute occasionally shuts her mouth.
 
2009-08-22 06:58:37 AM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: /sometimes accurate?

Not in my case. I am not a guy, your test suggests otherwise.
 
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