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(Daily Kos)   Rep. Barney Frank to woman comparing Obama's health care policy to Nazis: Arguing with you is like having an argument with my dining room table. I am not interested   (dailykos.com) divider line 338
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2009-08-19 04:54:31 AM  
Okay, Barney Frank has just earned a $50 donation from me.

// Thank you for calling a moron out on their continual diarrhea of insane bullcrap.
 
2009-08-19 04:54:36 AM  
log_jammin: I like the way Capitalist1: whines about Frank sidestepping an "uncomfortable question" then he proceeds to ignore all uncomfortable questions he gets asked.

To be fair, the question was uncomfortable, but only because it made that lady sound insane.

Conversing w/ crazy people is very uncomfortable. I ride the city bus, so I know these things.
 
2009-08-19 04:55:20 AM  
I am far from a fan of Barney frank, I think the guy has done some really distasteful stuff much like the rest of Congress, but that was a great response. I hope it becomes the next Fark and internet meme. It's like the new "weakest link" line you can use to shut people down.
 
2009-08-19 04:57:03 AM  
Also, how hilarious is that that not only does Barney Frank talk like Elmer Fudd, he looks like Elmer Fudd as well.
 
2009-08-19 04:59:02 AM  
TheGhostofFarkPast: I think the guy has done some really distasteful stuff

Like what? Ass-to-mouth?
 
2009-08-19 04:59:42 AM  
brainiac-dumdum: Conversing w/ crazy people is very uncomfortable. I ride the city bus, so I know these things.

yet you manage to withstand the fark.
 
2009-08-19 05:05:34 AM  
Rubberband Girl: you've gotta be frank with people

NTTAWWT
 
2009-08-19 05:09:36 AM  
i278.photobucket.com
 
2009-08-19 05:09:50 AM  
Bek: [dining room table/argument is invalid pic]

Nice.

i15.photobucket.com
 
2009-08-19 05:11:37 AM  
Thank you Barney Frank. I don't believe Congresspeople and Senators of either party should be venturing away from discussing with the loud, idiotic folk, but directly noting the level of insanity which promotes such fantastically repugnant notions and the lack of ability to discourse with such folk. How would we be able to differ those staged townhall meetings from those with representatives genuinely interested in hearing an unfiltered question from their constituency when in the audience are folk shouting meaningless phrases, phantom provisions, and simple stupidity?

I don't know of really any person siding with the protesters who has a cognizant opposition to health care reforms, but such oppositions do exist and should be heard.
 
2009-08-19 05:16:16 AM  
Oh man. I love Jews.
 
2009-08-19 05:20:33 AM  
Oh yeah - and more to the point - between Mr. Frank and Mr. Wiener it looks like the Democrats are starting to finally dust off their spines. They're uh, getting all stiff now.

We just might get that public option after all. WHEEE.

/what?
//it's a gay dude and a guy named wiener. I'm OBLIGATED to make a penis joke.
 
2009-08-19 05:20:39 AM  
Darn, I submitted this with a link direct to YouTube..

A great moment, though.

/where's my OH SNAP pic.. can't guess the exact filename from work..
 
2009-08-19 05:26:40 AM  
Those who are against health care should simply eschew it, thus solving all their problems.

OH - I get it now. They're only against health care for OTHER people. I see. Nothing new here; just Republicans continuing to think they can boss everyone else around.
 
2009-08-19 05:44:56 AM  
Here is the entire clip
(new window)
/or at least the longest one my lazy ass found
 
2009-08-19 05:54:24 AM  
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh yeah - and more to the point - between Mr. Frank and Mr. Wiener it looks like the Democrats are starting to finally dust off their spines. They're uh, getting all stiff now.

We just might get that public option after all. WHEEE.

/what?
//it's a gay dude and a guy named wiener. I'm OBLIGATED to make a penis joke.


we can only hope this is the start. attention all other democrats, start treating the loons as they deserve to be treated.
 
2009-08-19 06:00:21 AM  
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh yeah - and more to the point - between Mr. Frank and Mr. Wiener it looks like the Democrats are starting to finally dust off their spines. They're uh, getting all stiff now.

We just might get that public option after all. WHEEE.

/what?
//it's a gay dude and a guy named wiener. I'm OBLIGATED to make a penis joke.



Congressman Eric Penis has been a major factor in promoting single-payer healthcare, but he hasn't gotten nearly the attention Wiener or Wiener-lover has gotten.
 
2009-08-19 06:06:58 AM  
Hilikus9191: Here is the entire clip
(new window)
/or at least the longest one my lazy ass found


Thanks. I have wondered why the congresspeople treat these people so deferentially. Call them out. Own the damn room.
 
2009-08-19 06:33:35 AM  
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Barney Frank's outreach program.
 
2009-08-19 06:43:09 AM  
There's a certain deliciousness in the fact that the main complainer in the video is a LaRoucher. Note that she asserts the policy in question 'is already on the way out, defeated by LaRouche'. Then why bring it up, crazy lady? She feels the need to promote the values of her organization: good old Lyndy's no longer a person, he's been institutionalized, and his organization has assumed a life of it's own and she feels the need to propagate its message in whatever forum she has access to.

They are a very typical cult of personality, the LaRouchers, and it's awfully ironic they are invoking other cults of personality, specifically Hitler and the Nazis (and yah, certain populist aspects of Obama), in what they oppose. I'd draw some broad brush strokes here between this crazy lady and recent neocon tactics, but I wouldn't get very far since every reasonable conservative has disowned you-know-who and I'd just be back-baiting the underbridge dwellers.
 
2009-08-19 06:45:26 AM  
Bawnee is dum.
 
2009-08-19 06:45:59 AM  
Oh yeah, Barney Frank? Well living with you is like living in a living nightmare!
 
2009-08-19 06:46:38 AM  
A complete dickfaced douchnozzle claimed: Barney Frank's outreach program.

Oh you poor pathetic piece of shiat. He has been openly gay since when. Unlike all your GOP hero's who get kicked out of their closet on a regular basis.

Please do the gene pool a favor and DIAF before you manage to reproduce.
 
2009-08-19 06:58:44 AM  
 
2009-08-19 07:06:48 AM  
Speaking truth to stupid. If only our other democrats would start doing the same.
 
2009-08-19 07:09:31 AM  
I was in downtown New Bedford yesterday afternoon and there were a few Lyndon LaRoush (or however you spell that idiot's name) supporters handing out these images of Obama with a Hitler stash... ridiculous. Not a single brain cell among the lot of them.

You go, Barney... I'm not always in agreement with you, but this type of crap is bullshiat and no one should have to listen to it. These people are morons, and they're obviously not interested in an sort of debate on the issue at hand.

With that little smack down and your continued support of Fall River's fight against Hess/Weaver's Cove Energy, you've secured my vote again.
 
2009-08-19 07:22:32 AM  
He should has said, "Arguing with you is like dealing with a vagina," and then say something about HMO's.
 
2009-08-19 07:34:57 AM  
Bucky Katt: Wow, that purple dinosaur isn't as nice as he's made out to be.

That's what Barney Frank's boyfriend said on their first date.

/rimshot
 
2009-08-19 07:39:21 AM  
Markoff_Cheney: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh yeah - and more to the point - between Mr. Frank and Mr. Wiener it looks like the Democrats are starting to finally dust off their spines. They're uh, getting all stiff now.

We just might get that public option after all. WHEEE.

/what?
//it's a gay dude and a guy named wiener. I'm OBLIGATED to make a penis joke.

we can only hope this is the start. attention all other democrats, start treating the loons as they deserve to be treated.


I've been doing it for MONTHS, trolls and nuts deserve derision, scorn and mockery, NOT equal time.

/And it SHOULD be bipartisan
 
2009-08-19 07:45:22 AM  
It's not the curb stomp that these morons deserve, but I'll take it.
 
2009-08-19 07:46:03 AM  
Philbb: abb3w: Philbb: I recently lost an argument with my dining room table, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies

A kick from the table's legs?

To be specific, my position was that; tripping over my sister's dog and falling to the floor in my own dining room was sufficiently humiliating. However, the dining room table's position was that; it was not humiliating enough and that I should bash my shoulder on the edge of the table during the fall in order to be properly humiliated. I conceded the point to the dining room table.

Then again, in four or five months, when the argument comes up about whether or not the table serves a greater function as a piece of dining room furniture or as a few hours of heat in the fireplace, we'll reevaluate who is the more persuasive.


New keyboard please. Somehow, whilst reading your post, mine got covered in soda.
 
2009-08-19 07:47:16 AM  
ghare: Markoff_Cheney: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh yeah - and more to the point - between Mr. Frank and Mr. Wiener it looks like the Democrats are starting to finally dust off their spines. They're uh, getting all stiff now.

We just might get that public option after all. WHEEE.

/what?
//it's a gay dude and a guy named wiener. I'm OBLIGATED to make a penis joke.

we can only hope this is the start. attention all other democrats, start treating the loons as they deserve to be treated.

I've been doing it for MONTHS, trolls and nuts deserve derision, scorn and mockery, NOT equal time.

/And it SHOULD be bipartisan


The only access I have to them is mainly on this forum, and i kinda just ignore them. i don't put them on ignore, because they say some of the most rediculously hilarious things, but i try not to reply unless I feel like translating their posts to japanese and back a few times on babblefish.
The irl trolls showing up all over these meetings need to be told they are crazy and need to STFU.
 
2009-08-19 07:51:09 AM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Which question was that?

"Are you secretly in legaue with the forces of evil to force single -payer healthcare on America?"

A: No

"Is Obama a Nazi?"

A: Are you an idiot whose never opened a textbook, or just someone who lacks all sense of historical perspective and is unable to see political issues as something upon which reasonable people can diagree?"
 
2009-08-19 07:55:31 AM  
Action Replay Nick: Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Pffttt... you're an amateur. Malkin will turn this aspect of the 'outrage' into at least two paragraphs.


I bet one of them will be devoted entirely to how this proves that barney frank and "the Liberals" have no respect for the First Amendment and how conservatives never tried to supress protestors when Bush was in office (with a long annecdotal whiny aside about some mean names some protestor somewhere called GWB)

And how she, personally, never published the home phone numbers of Student organizers of an anti-war protest and encouraged her reader to send them hate calls
 
2009-08-19 08:13:30 AM  
You know who else liked to Fark with homosexuals?
 
2009-08-19 08:21:29 AM  
This just in: woman humiliated by B. Frank on national TV to sue.
 
2009-08-19 08:23:19 AM  
ragekage: Action Replay Nick: Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Pffttt... you're an amateur. Malkin will turn this aspect of the 'outrage' into at least two paragraphs.

This. You suck at poutrage, my friend. You either need practice, or to get laid. Here, *scribbles number on card*, call this number, tell them I sent you, and that it's an emergency.



+1 for the addition of Red Dwarf. Well played sir.
 
2009-08-19 08:27:20 AM  
LaRouchers? Jesus Christ.. they're still around?

How do people continue to take that crap seriously?
 
2009-08-19 08:28:26 AM  
soy_bomb: Barney Frank's outreach program.

Why is Barney Frank's hand on...that...man's...ass...?

Oh my God.

soy_bomb just outed Barney Frank.

I'm stunned.
 
2009-08-19 08:29:03 AM  
Two years ago:

Today, President Bush rode his lawn-mower out to the edge of his property and told Cindy Sheehan "Arguing with you is like arguing with his kitchen table, I am not interested."

OMG what a horrible man who is too stupid to debate what is an obviously illegal war (despite the fact that it was legally voted for)

Modern Day:

Today, Rep Barney Frank told a constituent asking a health care question; "Arguing with you is like arguing with his kitchen table, I am not interested."

OMG what a smart man, that was an obviously stupid question.


Obvious - the reason given by people who really can't come up with any actual reasons. Not to say that the question wasn't stupid, but he just gave them exactly what they wanted. Now they have "proof" that no one is listening to them.
 
2009-08-19 08:32:55 AM  
Capitalist1: Way to , there, Bahneh.

What value proposition does the Insurance industry bring to health care?

Please take your time, think this question through and then sidestep that uncomfortable question.

Certainly, as a fellow capitalist, we want the best value for our money. So, I'm sure you will provide an analysis of what value proposition the Insurance industry brings to health care. Because, otherwise - you'd look just like the woman in the Barney video.
 
2009-08-19 08:34:24 AM  
Classic.

This woman got totally pwned. When he starts ripping her, the camera goes to her and she is like, "Oh man, what did I get myself into? Freedom works told me they were going to fold like a house of cards."

Democrats need to grow a pair or they will do what they always do, fold when it gets to tough.
 
2009-08-19 08:35:00 AM  
the_ut_tick: Obvious - the reason given by people who really can't come up with any actual reasons. Not to say that the question wasn't stupid, but he just gave them exactly what they wanted. Now they have "proof" that no one is listening to them.

It's called marginalization - and it was hard earned by those who enjoy it now.
 
2009-08-19 08:35:01 AM  
shivashakti: LaRouchers? Jesus Christ.. they're still around?

How do people continue to take that crap seriously?


Oh yeah, still around... the one's I saw in New Bedford yesterday were college age kids, too... So the Cult of LaRouch is still recruiting on campuses, I guess. It's like the Hari Krishnas with less brain cells.

But, yeah, how anyone takes them seriously is beyond me.
 
2009-08-19 08:35:52 AM  
That was an awesome video to watch.
Also, this was stated earlier, and I most certainly thing it's worth repeating:

For all you who are upset with Frank not answering her "question":

El_Perro: Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Just so we're clear, this is the "uncomfortable question" that 'Senator' Frank "sidestepped":

They say we need to limit Medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. That's the origin of this policy. This is the T-4 policy of the Hitler, of the Hitler policy of 1939, where he said certain lives are not worth living, certain people we should not spend the money to keep them alive. . . . Why do you continue to support a Nazi policy, as Obama has expressly supported this policy, why are you supporting it?


And, for some further info, here is just a little bit of information about Hitler's T-4 program:

Between December 1939 and August 1941, about 50,000 to 60,000 Germans-children and adults-were secretly killed by lethal injections or in gassing installations designed to look like shower stalls. It was a foretast of Auschwitz. The victims were taken from the medical institution and put to death.... (Never to Forget, New York:HarperCollins, 1976:131.) (source)


Now, can you please tell us how 'Senator' Frank should respond to a question that compares a (relatively modest, by world standards) health insurance reform plan to a Nazi plan that intentionally killed 50,000-60,000 people, and was (in part) an effort to test methods that would later be used to kill millions more? What sort of answer would not be "sidestepping" the question?
 
2009-08-19 08:41:21 AM  
the_ut_tick: Two years ago:

Today, President Bush rode his lawn-mower out to the edge of his property and told Cindy Sheehan "Arguing with you is like arguing with his kitchen table, I am not interested."

OMG what a horrible man who is too stupid to debate what is an obviously illegal war (despite the fact that it was legally voted for)

Modern Day:

Today, Rep Barney Frank told a constituent asking a health care question; "Arguing with you is like arguing with his kitchen table, I am not interested."

OMG what a smart man, that was an obviously stupid question.


Obvious - the reason given by people who really can't come up with any actual reasons. Not to say that the question wasn't stupid, but he just gave them exactly what they wanted. Now they have "proof" that no one is listening to them.


Secret prisons, torture and endless war sounds a lot more like the Nazi's than offering people access to healthcare.
 
2009-08-19 08:42:31 AM  
the_ut_tick: Today, Rep Barney Frank told a constituent asking a health care question

How is comparing Health Care Reform to the extermination camps of the Nazi regime "asking a question"?
 
2009-08-19 08:57:01 AM  
On a funny side note, at least for Canadian Farkers, the Canadian father our nationalized healthcare (and Kiefer Sutherlands grandfather), Tommy Douglas, did his Master's thesis on eugenics and forced sterilization of mentally/physically disabled Canadians.

/changed his mind after a visit to Nazi Germany in 1938.
 
2009-08-19 08:58:12 AM  
Barney Frank is generally awesome on everything but the economy. And his role in that is vastly overrated.
 
2009-08-19 09:00:15 AM  
log_jammin: I like the way Capitalist1: whines about Frank sidestepping an "uncomfortable question" then he proceeds to ignore all uncomfortable questions he gets asked.

He he he
 
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