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(Daily Kos)   Rep. Barney Frank to woman comparing Obama's health care policy to Nazis: Arguing with you is like having an argument with my dining room table. I am not interested   (dailykos.com) divider line 338
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2009-08-18 09:59:46 PM  
FTFA - At one point, confronted by an audience member holding a picture of President Obama defaced to make Obama look like Hitler who asked how he could support Nazi policies, Frank asked "on what planet do you spend most of your time?" When asked if he would respond to the question, he said "trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table."

Okay, maybe not the most professional response he could've given, but sometimes you've gotta be frank with people just to get through to them.

FTFA - When accused along with Obama and others of being secretly in favor of a single-payer health system, Frank responded "It's been twenty-one years since I had a secret."

Oh, SNAP!
 
2009-08-18 10:01:09 PM  
It's funny, because this is utterly ridiculous and Frank is entirely right to admonish this idiot. However, he is Barney Frank, so this will be conservative outrage number 1 first thing in the morning after Malkin or someone stays up all night twisting this into 2000 words so they can collect a paycheck this week.
 
2009-08-18 10:03:13 PM  
Ah Mr. Frank I knew there was a reason I liked you.
 
2009-08-18 10:10:40 PM  
Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.
 
2009-08-18 10:11:47 PM  
Action Replay Nick: It's funny, because this is utterly ridiculous and Frank is entirely right to admonish this idiot. However, he is Barney Frank, so this will be conservative outrage number 1 first thing in the morning after Malkin or someone stays up all night twisting this into 2000 words so they can collect a paycheck this week.

I anticipate some razor sharp gay and fat jokes.
 
2009-08-18 10:12:46 PM  
I now have a new level of respect for this man.
 
2009-08-18 10:13:05 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Conservative fear-mongering =/= uncomfortable question.
 
2009-08-18 10:13:39 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

I'm sorry. What exactly was the uncomfortable question there?

If that woman did have a sliver of a point to make in all her whargarbl, she lost her chance to get a rational response when she starts off with all that Nazi/Hitler stuff. She got the response she deserved... mockery and derision.
 
2009-08-18 10:14:31 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

I like your accent, big rugged individualist.
*bats eyelashes*
 
2009-08-18 10:16:16 PM  
Yeah, most Jews might be offended when you call something Obama is doing "Nazi policy"..
 
2009-08-18 10:18:13 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Pffttt... you're an amateur. Malkin will turn this aspect of the 'outrage' into at least two paragraphs.
 
2009-08-18 10:26:21 PM  
Action Replay Nick: Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Pffttt... you're an amateur. Malkin will turn this aspect of the 'outrage' into at least two paragraphs.


This. You suck at poutrage, my friend. You either need practice, or to get laid. Here, *scribbles number on card*, call this number, tell them I sent you, and that it's an emergency.
 
2009-08-18 10:28:29 PM  
sweetmelissa31: Yeah, most Jews might be offended when you call something Obama is doing "Nazi policy".

Or yell Heil Hitler!

/works in Vegas
 
2009-08-18 10:31:21 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

For your profile picture, you should use this:

i478.photobucket.com
 
2009-08-18 10:35:46 PM  
When did Barney Frank become a Senator?

/News to me.
//Probably news to Senators Kerry and Kennedy, too.
 
2009-08-18 10:41:45 PM  
Neeek: When did Barney Frank become a Senator?

/News to me.
//Probably news to Senators Kerry and Kennedy, too.


shad up with the facts....Jack
 
2009-08-18 10:43:16 PM  
Action Replay Nick: It's funny, because this is utterly ridiculous and Frank is entirely right to admonish this idiot. However, he is Barney Frank, so this will be conservative outrage number 1 first thing in the morning after Malkin or someone stays up all night twisting this into 2000 words so they can collect a paycheck this week.

yeah but you gotta give him this- every now and then he comes up with a great burn.
 
2009-08-18 10:48:17 PM  
Can't wait for The Daily Show's take on this.
 
2009-08-18 11:04:41 PM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

An uncomfortable question like how it is you came up with the torturously stupid conclusion that private corporations competing with government interests is inherently impossible?

I mean, you are the guy who said that, right?
 
2009-08-18 11:08:29 PM  
Am I the first to note that Barney Frank is not a SENATOR?

Er, anyone? Buehler?
 
2009-08-18 11:39:09 PM  
Barney Frank to woman comparing Obama's health care policy to Nazis: Arguing with you is like having an argument with my dining room table. I am not interested It's fabulous!

Because he's gay.
 
2009-08-18 11:42:12 PM  
wejash: Am I the first to note that Barney Frank is not a SENATOR?

Er, anyone? Buehler?


No, you're not.

RTFT.

Search for Neeek
 
2009-08-18 11:58:04 PM  
barney always makes me laugh
 
2009-08-19 12:05:38 AM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

People evoking Nazi imagery are pathetic fools. He gave her more attention than she deserved.

...and insulted dining room tables.
 
2009-08-19 12:09:00 AM  
Ahh one of the last of his kind. An elected official who doesn't mince words. At one time, a very common fixture.
 
2009-08-19 12:11:37 AM  
I recently lost an argument with my dining room table, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies
 
2009-08-19 12:14:12 AM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Yeah. Because it is so much more appealing to be a corporate slut.

Shouldn't you be busy knob gobbling CEO's who've destroyed their firms?
 
2009-08-19 12:14:18 AM  
Barney Frank has the best one-liners of anyone in Congress. Now if he could just start directing them at Pelosi and Reid, maybe something would get done.
 
2009-08-19 12:29:02 AM  
I rarely agree with Barney Frank, except on social issues... but dammit, it is great to see a politician to call a moron a moron.

Most congressmen would respond with something like "while I respect that you have an opinion, blah blah blah", and Barney Frank would say something like "the only thing dumber than your idea is that you thought it was rational enough to speak".
 
2009-08-19 12:41:51 AM  
Rubberband Girl: Okay, maybe not the most professional response he could've given, but sometimes you've gotta be frank with people just to get through to them.

I think we're about done with "professionalism". Winning pretty isn't really an option anymore, so I'll go ahead and win ugly now.
 
2009-08-19 12:50:55 AM  
Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Just so we're clear, this is the "uncomfortable question" that 'Senator' Frank "sidestepped":

They say we need to limit Medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. That's the origin of this policy. This is the T-4 policy of the Hitler, of the Hitler policy of 1939, where he said certain lives are not worth living, certain people we should not spend the money to keep them alive. . . . Why do you continue to support a Nazi policy, as Obama has expressly supported this policy, why are you supporting it?


And, for some further info, here is just a little bit of information about Hitler's T-4 program:

Between December 1939 and August 1941, about 50,000 to 60,000 Germans-children and adults-were secretly killed by lethal injections or in gassing installations designed to look like shower stalls. It was a foretast of Auschwitz. The victims were taken from the medical institution and put to death.... (Never to Forget, New York:HarperCollins, 1976:131.) (source)


Now, can you please tell us how 'Senator' Frank should respond to a question that compares a (relatively modest, by world standards) health insurance reform plan to a Nazi plan that intentionally killed 50,000-60,000 people, and was (in part) an effort to test methods that would later be used to kill millions more? What sort of answer would not be "sidestepping" the question?
 
2009-08-19 12:57:18 AM  
El_Perro: Now, can you please tell us how 'Senator' Frank should respond to a question that compares a (relatively modest, by world standards) health insurance reform plan to a Nazi plan that intentionally killed 50,000-60,000 people, and was (in part) an effort to test methods that would later be used to kill millions more? What sort of answer would not be "sidestepping" the question?

images.eonline.com
 
Bek
2009-08-19 12:58:39 AM  
WhyteRaven74: Ahh one of the last of his kind. An elected official who doesn't mince words. At one time, a very common fixture.

This is why I love Barney Frank. I don't always agree with him, but dammit he will say whatever the fark is on his mind and to hell with the consequences.
 
2009-08-19 12:59:10 AM  
El_Perro:

Excuse me. I just threw up a little.
 
2009-08-19 01:01:05 AM  
I think from now on, instead of all the extra words, I'm just going to go with:

Shut up, Capitalist1, you cock.
 
2009-08-19 01:07:59 AM  
Philbb: I recently lost an argument with my dining room table, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies

A kick from the table's legs?
 
2009-08-19 01:08:11 AM  
Frankiesuicide: Capitalist1: Way to sidestep having to answer an uncomfortable question, there, Bahneh.

Conservative fear-mongering =/= uncomfortable question.


I'd argue with you, but it'd be like arguing with an ottoman. I have no interest.
 
Bek
2009-08-19 01:14:44 AM  
img441.imageshack.us
 
2009-08-19 01:16:52 AM  
Wow, that purple dinosaur isn't as nice as he's made out to be.
 
2009-08-19 01:40:59 AM  
abb3w: Philbb: I recently lost an argument with my dining room table, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies

A kick from the table's legs?


To be specific, my position was that; tripping over my sister's dog and falling to the floor in my own dining room was sufficiently humiliating. However, the dining room table's position was that; it was not humiliating enough and that I should bash my shoulder on the edge of the table during the fall in order to be properly humiliated. I conceded the point to the dining room table.

Then again, in four or five months, when the argument comes up about whether or not the table serves a greater function as a piece of dining room furniture or as a few hours of heat in the fireplace, we'll reevaluate who is the more persuasive.
 
2009-08-19 02:12:50 AM  
"I never asked you to trust the government. The government is not your mother or father, or your doctor...No one should ever trust the government, people should use their rights as citizens."

Sounds like one of our own, beloved, Fark Independents.
 
2009-08-19 02:35:49 AM  
farkin' A, I just watched the clip. That was just full of awesome.
 
2009-08-19 04:20:53 AM  
HAHA!! Frank is awesome! Echoing what I read on another website, I guess it takes a queen to have the balls to stand up to these ridiculous people. It's nice that he pointed out that she has the right to say these things, so no one can attack him for suppressing her speech. However, he was also able to point out that she is as dumb as a box of rocks and crazy to boot.
 
2009-08-19 04:28:33 AM  
propasaurus: Action Replay Nick: It's funny, because this is utterly ridiculous and Frank is entirely right to admonish this idiot. However, he is Barney Frank, so this will be conservative outrage number 1 first thing in the morning after Malkin or someone stays up all night twisting this into 2000 words so they can collect a paycheck this week.

I anticipate some razor sharp gay and fat jokes.


i567.photobucket.com

People really care about whether he's gay, and whether barnes and noble is open on new years, apparently.
 
2009-08-19 04:29:08 AM  
Good for Rep. Frank. Comparing the health care plan (well, plans, anyway, given that there still seem to be multiple non-identical bills running around) to National Socialism is just a wee bit out there.
 
2009-08-19 04:30:57 AM  
I like the way Capitalist1: whines about Frank sidestepping an "uncomfortable question" then he proceeds to ignore all uncomfortable questions he gets asked.
 
2009-08-19 04:37:27 AM  
I couldn't care less that he's gay.

We need more politicians of this calibur on both sides.

/call a moron a moron
//call bullshiat what it is.
///you GO girl!
 
2009-08-19 04:46:31 AM  
I like that guy. I wish he was on the other side. No, no not that other side. The right other side.
Wait that did not sound good.
 
2009-08-19 04:51:12 AM  
Go Barney! It's about time someone called these people on their epic-level idiocy.

This deserved a Hero tag.
 
2009-08-19 04:51:59 AM  
There is going to be epic poutrage in the morning over this one.

And, yes, her comment was patently asinine. It really did merit that sort of response.
 
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