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2009-08-13 05:50:07 PM
For $5,000 you can hunt all you want in my yard here in Estes Park. I see at least 15 elk per day.
 
2009-08-13 05:53:08 PM
But yet him and his kids will tag along and be a distraction. Great job, loser.
 
2009-08-13 05:53:10 PM
the elk in the east, at least in PA, enjoyed decades without hunting. so it's like shooting an 800-pound refrigerator.
 
2009-08-13 05:59:17 PM
I hope she takes Dick Cheney with her.
 
2009-08-13 06:17:43 PM
Dumb ass. His wife asked him to bring home "some milk".
 
2009-08-13 10:28:49 PM
Franklin resident

Figures. It was going to be that or Brentwood.
 
2009-08-13 10:35:56 PM
"Tami is an experienced hunter but has never shot an elk. She has harvested an 8-point buck and two red stags, one from 300 yards away, on a hunt in Scotland."

Do not screw around on this chick
 
2009-08-13 10:58:34 PM
Odd coincidence that I took the family out to the Smoky Mts. National Park just a couple of hours ago to see if we could spot any elk. First time we've been there that we didn't see a one. Maybe the news of the hunt has gotten out over the elkograph and they're laying low.

/hanging out in Franklin (NC) for a few days
//only place I can get internet access is in the hammock on the porch
///why, yes - I'm stealing it from the neighbor across the Cullasaja
 
2009-08-14 02:12:39 AM
Ugh. "Hunters".

"The only good thing about hunting is the many accidents on the weekends"

God, I miss that man.
 
2009-08-14 02:14:25 AM
mysticcat: "Tami is an experienced hunter but has never shot an elk. She has harvested an 8-point buck and two red stags, one from 300 yards away, on a hunt in Scotland."

Do not screw around on this chick


I'd be proud of myself for hitting a target from 300 inches.
 
2009-08-14 02:16:50 AM
Elk trifecta in play?
 
2009-08-14 02:17:32 AM
Seems like a steep price.
Normally, during hunting season, she's at the club, only blowing a few bucks.
 
2009-08-14 02:18:30 AM
I almost dominated a deer on the way home from a friends house in MI, the farker damn near ran into the side of my car. If I had hit the brakes at all I would of hit him. On the other hand, I love deer meat. Turn that shiat into jerky, and we got ourselves a meal. It was a female from my PoV, or a really young male.

/bear is still better
//both are good, but c'mon
///I love meat
 
2009-08-14 02:22:08 AM
Where I live, elk hunt is indistinguishable from el c*nt.

While I may pay some 17k for some world class meat, I wouldn't give it to my wife in some non-surgical manner.

FAIL.
 
2009-08-14 02:24:40 AM
blogs.radiotown.com
 
2009-08-14 02:26:01 AM
What is the justification for charging these sorts of fees (or any fee) for hunting? Ridiculous.

/not a hunter, but thinks it is obviously a natural human right
 
2009-08-14 02:28:30 AM
xuanzhiyouxuan: What is the justification for charging these sorts of fees (or any fee) for hunting? Ridiculous.

/not a hunter, but thinks it is obviously a natural human right


Pay to play.
Making money is obviously a natural human right too. You pinko-commie.
 
2009-08-14 02:30:40 AM
notmtwain: Dumb ass. His wife asked him to bring home "some milk".

You... you are a funny guy.
 
2009-08-14 02:31:45 AM
xuanzhiyouxuan: What is the justification for charging these sorts of fees (or any fee) for hunting? Ridiculous.

/not a hunter, but thinks it is obviously a natural human right


I know an avid duck hunter. He talks about sitting out in the middle of no where, all quiet as the sun is just starting to come up. He doesn't actually care if he bags any ducks or not. He just loves that moment.
 
2009-08-14 02:34:51 AM
"Tami is an experienced hunter but has never shot an elk. She has harvested an 8-point buck and two red stags, one from 300 yards away, on a hunt in Scotland."

Didn't we have a thread yesterday about how European red deer are the same species as American elk?
 
2009-08-14 02:37:30 AM
I really, really don't get the mindset off crazy-ass motherfarkers that want to go out to the middle of nowhere and sit on their fat asses until they can shoot something generally much cuter and less ferocious then they are. No respect in that at all.

You want to kill a bear with a goddamned knife? Okay. I can respect that, because, man, it's either you or the bear. Shooting bambi with a shotgun is just farking retarded.farking hicks.
 
2009-08-14 02:40:34 AM
OgreMagi: xuanzhiyouxuan: What is the justification for charging these sorts of fees (or any fee) for hunting? Ridiculous.

/not a hunter, but thinks it is obviously a natural human right

I know an avid duck hunter. He talks about sitting out in the middle of no where, all quiet as the sun is just starting to come up. He doesn't actually care if he bags any ducks or not. He just loves that moment.


So would it be workable to determine if a hunter was doing it for subsistence or leisure and charge on that basis?
 
2009-08-14 02:42:14 AM
You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....
 
2009-08-14 02:44:02 AM
notmtwain: Dumb ass. His wife asked him to bring home "some milk".

... Or else she was inviting him to visit uh - Mike ...
 
2009-08-14 02:47:18 AM
Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.
 
2009-08-14 02:49:39 AM
Did she name the permit "Homer"?
 
2009-08-14 02:51:24 AM
gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

In the end, it still costs several thousand dollars.
 
2009-08-14 02:57:44 AM
Nullav: Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.

Yep, you have your choice: regulated hunting of deer; bring back the natural predators (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard); or watch the deer starve to death in droves or succumb to disease because of overpopulation.

Compared to the inhumane treament that beef you had for dinner received, Bambi had a good life and died no worse than he would have if man had not been here and the wolves had gotten him.
 
2009-08-14 02:59:20 AM
Aeonic_Blue: I really, really don't get the mindset off crazy-ass motherfarkers that want to go out to the middle of nowhere and sit on their fat asses until they can shoot something generally much cuter and less ferocious then they are. No respect in that at all.

You want to kill a bear with a goddamned knife? Okay. I can respect that, because, man, it's either you or the bear. Shooting bambi with a shotgun is just farking retarded.farking hicks.


This is obviously trollerific, but there is a tiny grain in this that really should be confronted.

People who enjoy killing things creep me out. I'm a meat eater, I fully understand the importance of culling the herd, I am 100% aware of the food chain and the necessity of death in that chain. My issue is not with the death.

I'm not talking about the killing, I'm talking about enjoying the killing. There is, of course, much to enjoy about the sport of hunting: camaraderie, having a hobby with a long tradition, the nature (like the above dunk hunter story.) I'm behind that stuff 100%.

But people enjoying...enthusiastically ENJOYING...the death of a living being makes my skin crawl.

Death is a necessity. Like vomiting...it purges the body of poisons, prevents further illness. But a person who enjoyed vomiting would, rightly, be seen as a farking freak.

So great, go out there and thin the herd. Thank you for what is clearly a great necessity. But if you come back with a big grin on your face, talking happily about "conquering" a dumb animal that was at a comically exaggerated disadvantage in the "sport," I'm going to smile politely and check the exit.

/don't get me started on the people who fantasize...actually FANTASIZE...about what they'd do to an intruder in their home.
 
2009-08-14 03:01:07 AM
gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

Ah another WA resident near an elk herd.

/ditto for North Bend.
//but is all private property so little to no hunting grounds unless you want to fork over $200 for a Hancock pass, few elk up there.
///people don't want the elk tearing up their yard, but don't go any further than that...
 
2009-08-14 03:01:23 AM
averagejoe42: gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

In the end, it still costs several thousand dollars.


Does it then become a "clunker" and worth 4500 "bucks"?
sorry, sorry, sorry....
 
2009-08-14 03:03:32 AM
cuzsis: gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

Ah another WA resident near an elk herd.

/ditto for North Bend.
//but is all private property so little to no hunting grounds unless you want to fork over $200 for a Hancock pass, few elk up there.
///people don't want the elk tearing up their yard, but don't go any further than that...


You could hunt the deer in my yard with a hammer....and I wish someone would....hmmmm, if I just owned a freezer..
 
2009-08-14 03:05:53 AM
gwydion56: Nullav: Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.

Yep, you have your choice: regulated hunting of deer; bring back the natural predators (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard); or watch the deer starve to death in droves or succumb to disease because of overpopulation.

Compared to the inhumane treament that beef you had for dinner received, Bambi had a good life and died no worse than he would have if man had not been here and the wolves had gotten him.


Actually that bullet was (if shot properly) far more humane than a "natural" predator would've been. I say "natural" because people seem to have an issue with considering us natural predators anymore, though we certainly are.

i119.photobucket.com

By the way, how well do you think this guy will do this winter? (Took the pic about a week ago.)

Cows are having skin issues of some kind. Patches everywhere and I saw a couple birds feeding off their backs. Not sure what's up.

/Herd up here is at the limits of their range IMHO.
//But I'm not a biologist.
 
2009-08-14 03:07:30 AM
gave up: cuzsis: gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

Ah another WA resident near an elk herd.

/ditto for North Bend.
//but is all private property so little to no hunting grounds unless you want to fork over $200 for a Hancock pass, few elk up there.
///people don't want the elk tearing up their yard, but don't go any further than that...

You could hunt the deer in my yard with a hammer....and I wish someone would....hmmmm, if I just owned a freezer..


You live in WA? We've got a deer tag too. ;)
 
2009-08-14 03:07:47 AM
The_Pole_Of_Justice pretty much nailed it.

I said I don't understand the mindset of wanting to go out and kill something patently harmless. I don't, and they are. Yeah, they'll jump out in front of your car, but that's because we built roads where they lived. Still not their problem, really.

I imagine it's just some bullshiat defense mechanism alpha-males develop, i.e "Look at me. I work for a multinational corporation and eat McDonalds three to five times a week but damn it I could be self sufficient and provide for myself and my killing this animal proves it!"

So, okay, whatever. Cull the herd, you civic-minded warrior-saviors. Bully.

But those pathetic farking dorks that pay mad bank to kill endangered species, farking evil
 
2009-08-14 03:08:03 AM
The_Pole_Of_Justice: But people enjoying...enthusiastically ENJOYING...the death of a living being makes my skin crawl.

those people are called "poachers" and are not to be confused with hunters.

hunting isn't about the kill, it's about the stalk.
 
2009-08-14 03:08:38 AM
I think he did it as a backhanded, underhanded compliment.

Think about it...

/El C???
 
2009-08-14 03:08:56 AM
gwydion56: (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard)

doesn't, wouldn't, and hasn't happen[ed]. Go ahead and try to find a case of an unprovoked wolf->human attack in the last half-century.
 
2009-08-14 03:12:02 AM
cuzsis: gave up: cuzsis: gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

Ah another WA resident near an elk herd.

/ditto for North Bend.
//but is all private property so little to no hunting grounds unless you want to fork over $200 for a Hancock pass, few elk up there.
///people don't want the elk tearing up their yard, but don't go any further than that...

You could hunt the deer in my yard with a hammer....and I wish someone would....hmmmm, if I just owned a freezer..

You live in WA? We've got a deer tag too. ;)


If you're asking permission: Granted, however, it's bow only...we got annexed...
 
2009-08-14 03:15:45 AM
spleef420: The_Pole_Of_Justice: But people enjoying...enthusiastically ENJOYING...the death of a living being makes my skin crawl.

those people are called "poachers" and are not to be confused with hunters.

hunting isn't about the kill, it's about the stalk.


Actually, a poacher is just someone who hunts illegally. I'm not talking about that at all.

I'm talking, specifically, of people who get pleasure explicitly from the death of a living thing. The stalk I understand. Again, I'm not against hunting.

I'm not talking about the guy with a million examples of taxidermy in his house. I'm not talking about the weekend warrior who goes out to drink beer and revel in the thrill of the hunt. I'm talking about the creepy farkers who smile when they think of a bleeding, dying animal in pain.
 
2009-08-14 03:18:32 AM
Aeonic_Blue: So, okay, whatever. Cull the herd, you civic-minded warrior-saviors. Bully.

Whatever. We're designed to eat some meat, so for a lot of people there is probably an almost instinctual desire to hunt. I'm not one of those people. Look above for me bragging about how good I am with a gun. Still, hunting served a purpose in the old days, and it serves a purpose now. It's only natural that people would enjoy it.

Throwing up is a bad analogy. That's unpleasant to help teach you to avoid ingesting whatever it is that made you puke in the first place. Hunting would naturally be a rewarding experience, what with the food and all.
 
2009-08-14 03:18:56 AM
santadog: For $5,000 you can hunt all you want in my yard here in Estes Park. I see at least 15 elk per day.

Pretty cheap.

I knew a guy whose land was along their migration trail. You might not even see any. He charged 2500 a gun.


gwydion56: Nullav: Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.

Yep, you have your choice: regulated hunting of deer; bring back the natural predators (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard); or watch the deer starve to death in droves or succumb to disease because of overpopulation.

Compared to the inhumane treament that beef you had for dinner received, Bambi had a good life and died no worse than he would have if man had not been here and the wolves had gotten him.


I'd take the wolves actually. At least predators thin the herd from the weakest up generally. It seems like hunting the trophy bucks hurts evolution and may even leave them susceptible to disease as well. Nature is cruel and I got no problem with that.

I admit I am hypocrite as I like most meat. A cow in a field looks tasty, just don't ask me to butcher it because I would probably go vegetarian first.
 
2009-08-14 03:20:09 AM
The_Pole_Of_Justice: the creepy farkers who smile when they think of a bleeding, dying animal in pain.

That I can agree with, as a good shot should allow a quick and hopefully painless death.
 
2009-08-14 03:23:17 AM
gave up: cuzsis: gave up: cuzsis: gave up: You can paste one in a car on I-90 outside Cle Elum. For NOTHING!....however, your car will lose....

Ah another WA resident near an elk herd.

/ditto for North Bend.
//but is all private property so little to no hunting grounds unless you want to fork over $200 for a Hancock pass, few elk up there.
///people don't want the elk tearing up their yard, but don't go any further than that...

You could hunt the deer in my yard with a hammer....and I wish someone would....hmmmm, if I just owned a freezer..

You live in WA? We've got a deer tag too. ;)

If you're asking permission: Granted, however, it's bow only...we got annexed...


I'm a bowhunter, actually.

I get migraines shooting anything bigger than a .223. Plus I love archery so it was a natural move for me.

/whereabouts are you?
 
2009-08-14 03:30:16 AM
Aeonic_Blue: I really, really don't get the mindset off crazy-ass motherfarkers that want to go out to the middle of nowhere and sit on their fat asses until they can shoot something generally much cuter and less ferocious then they are. No respect in that at all.

You want to kill a bear with a goddamned knife? Okay. I can respect that, because, man, it's either you or the bear. Shooting bambi with a shotgun is just farking retarded.farking hicks.


Stifle it Edith!
 
2009-08-14 03:32:22 AM
Speedbts alt: santadog: For $5,000 you can hunt all you want in my yard here in Estes Park. I see at least 15 elk per day.

Pretty cheap.

I knew a guy whose land was along their migration trail. You might not even see any. He charged 2500 a gun.


gwydion56: Nullav: Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.

Yep, you have your choice: regulated hunting of deer; bring back the natural predators (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard); or watch the deer starve to death in droves or succumb to disease because of overpopulation.

Compared to the inhumane treament that beef you had for dinner received, Bambi had a good life and died no worse than he would have if man had not been here and the wolves had gotten him.

I'd take the wolves actually. At least predators thin the herd from the weakest up generally. It seems like hunting the trophy bucks hurts evolution and may even leave them susceptible to disease as well. Nature is cruel and I got no problem with that.

I admit I am hypocrite as I like most meat. A cow in a field looks tasty, just don't ask me to butcher it because I would probably go vegetarian first.


Ideally the "trophies" are mature and generally older animals who are getting near the end of their life. Removal of them from the herd is not a bad thing (darwinian speaking).

But that's the ideal situation. I have no idea what actual "trophy" hunting is about. I like the idea of picking up a big animal (for the meat), but I don't understand obsessing about antlers.

They're cool and all. I certainly wouldn't mind having some. But I wouldn't lose sight of the venison over the quite inedible antler, regardless of size. (And for those of you who know, the younger ones tend to be more tasty anyway...)
 
2009-08-14 03:33:27 AM
picturescrazy: Throwing up is a bad analogy. That's unpleasant to help teach you to avoid ingesting whatever it is that made you puke in the first place. Hunting would naturally be a rewarding experience, what with the food and all.

The "naturally rewarding" part is irrelevant. As specific as I made this, I'm surprised people still don't get the point.

You throw up because you need to. In the past, and in some places currently, people hunt(ed) out of necessity.

You can have a great time drinking, getting to the point where you throw up. And you can have a great time hunting, getting to the point where you kill and disembowel a living thing.

And once the times comes, you might even be casual about vomiting. Maybe even feel like you're marking some sort of accomplishment. Well, shoot, a good time was had by all, I'll regret it in the morning, but now it's time for some of that beer to come back up. And you can, similarly, be casual about the death and disemboweling. Well, we did it, nice shot Frank, now let's get the meat.

But if you went drinking with a guy who gleefully, specifically, looked forward to shooting a mixture of Heineken and bile through his nose, you'd peg that person as a problem drinker, or at the very least young and stupid. And if some guy recounts a story, with boyish enthusiasm, of a huge buck crying out in agony for 15 minutes as it bled and limped away in terror, then that person...well, that person is a farking psycho.
 
2009-08-14 03:34:09 AM
The_Pole_Of_Justice: I'm talking about the creepy farkers who smile when they think of a bleeding, dying animal in pain.

you know what? I've been hunting deer since I was old enough to not get knocked on my ass from a .50 cal black powder rifle or .308 and I've never once met anyone like you describe.
 
2009-08-14 03:36:41 AM
gwydion56: Nullav: Either you shoot Bambi, or it hops out in front of you and costs you a ton in repairs, Aeonic Blue.

Yep, you have your choice: regulated hunting of deer; bring back the natural predators (but don't biatch when the wolves want to play with your kid in the back yard); or watch the deer starve to death in droves or succumb to disease because of overpopulation.

Compared to the inhumane treament that beef you had for dinner received, Bambi had a good life and died no worse than he would have if man had not been here and the wolves had gotten him.


In Montana, we rely on a fairly decent system of regulated hunting, predators, and semi's with full size heavy duty steel grill guards to manage the population of deer and elk.

But even with all of those population controls in place, there are still large overpopulated areas in the state.
 
2009-08-14 03:38:22 AM
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