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(Denis Boyles)   A look back at John Hughes' political activities with the "Pants Down Republicans" - very helpful if you're not old enough to remember when National Lampoon was funny   (denisboyles.com) divider line 101
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2009-08-07 12:23:43 PM
Other than the part about Linda Ronstadt, that could be written today.
 
2009-08-07 12:24:30 PM
P.J. looked like "Face" from the A-Team.
 
2009-08-07 12:25:14 PM
And that's what the Republican party became. A collection of ex hippies that took tuning in, turning on, and dropping out as a serious political goal. The man just became Bureaucrats. And all political angles became tongue-in-cheek. It's all a game anyway.
 
2009-08-07 12:27:02 PM
I'd sign up. Mexico has been acting silly lately.
 
2009-08-07 12:29:42 PM
John Hughes played a part in the great leap backward that happened when raygun took office.

All those shiatty air head movies he made fit the definition of bad art and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy.
 
2009-08-07 12:30:01 PM
I'm old enough to remember when P.J. O'Rourke was funny.
 
2009-08-07 12:30:32 PM
The funny part is, aside from the small wee wee joke, I'd say it bashes democrats (read the fine print in the link... I know reading farking hurts your brain.... but give it a try!)
 
2009-08-07 12:32:38 PM
Bob16: John Hughes played a part in the great leap backward that happened when raygun took office.

All those shiatty air head movies he made fit the definition of bad art and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy.


Uh... wut?
 
2009-08-07 12:32:47 PM
Bob16: John Hughes played a part in the great leap backward that happened when raygun took office.

All those shiatty air head movies he made fit the definition of bad art and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy.


blogs.amctv.com
Have no time for bad art.
 
2009-08-07 12:33:16 PM
YoMammaObama: The funny part is, aside from the small wee wee joke, I'd say it bashes democrats (read the fine print in the link... I know reading farking hurts your brain.... but give it a try!)

[facepalm.jpg]
 
2009-08-07 12:35:02 PM
DarnoKonrad: And that's what the Republican party became. A collection of ex hippies that took tuning in, turning on, and dropping out as a serious political goal.

Wrong.

I was there.
 
2009-08-07 12:36:09 PM
mediaho: Uh... wut?

What part you having a problem with ?
 
2009-08-07 12:37:31 PM
DarnoKonrad: YoMammaObama: The funny part is, aside from the small wee wee joke, I'd say it bashes democrats (read the fine print in the link... I know reading farking hurts your brain.... but give it a try!)

[facepalm.jpg]


It's funny when stupid people say stupid things, especially when they end it with a variation of "I am so smart. S-M-R-T!"
 
2009-08-07 12:37:48 PM
That's why I always loved those guys. I've got a stack of old NatLamps four feet high that I still rummage through.

The stories that John Hughes did that eventually became Sixteen Candles and the Vacation series were farkin hilarious. Far darker and more twisted than the movies ever displayed.

It's hard to believe the cast of writers and cartoonists they had back in the 70s. Per Wiki:

Staff
The magazine produced and fostered some notable writing and comic talents, including (but by no means limited to) Kenney, Beard, Chris Miller, P. J. O'Rourke, Michael O'Donoghue, Sean Kelly, Tony Hendra and John Hughes.

Many important cartoonists, photographers and illustrators appeared in the magazine's pages, including Neal Adams, Gahan Wilson, Ron Barrett, Vaughn Bode, Bruce McCall, Rick Meyerowitz, M.K. Brown, Shary Flenniken, Bobby London, Edward Gorey, Jeff Jones, Joe Orlando, Arnold Roth, Rich Grote, Ed Subitzky, Mara McAfee, Sam Gross, Charles Rodriquez, Buddy Hickerson, B.K. Taylor, Bernie Lettick, Frank Frazetta, Boris Vallejo, Marvin Mattelson, Stan Mack, Chris Callis, and John Barrett.

Comedy actors John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner and Bill Murray first gained national attention for their performances in the National Lampoon's stage show and radio show, and subsequently went on to become part of Saturday Night Live's original wave of Not Ready For Primetime Players.

The magazine was art directed by Michael C. Gross (1970-1974), then Peter Kleinman (1974-1987). The business side of the magazine was controlled by Matty Simmons, who was Chairman of the Board and CEO of 21st Century Communications, a publishing company.

anyone remember Vaugn Bodes Hat?
 
2009-08-07 12:39:23 PM
Bob16: mediaho: Uh... wut?

What part you having a problem with ?


"and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy."

It sounds like you have a whole load of assumptions in your head that you're not sharing with the rest of us, therefore it makes no sense.
 
2009-08-07 12:41:33 PM
Bob16: DarnoKonrad: And that's what the Republican party became. A collection of ex hippies that took tuning in, turning on, and dropping out as a serious political goal.

Wrong.

I was there.


You're telling me that Republicans didn't become an inside joke to get fundies to vote for neo-liberalism while they figured out new ways to fark the man whilst being the man? Because we sure look like broke joke today.
 
2009-08-07 12:44:31 PM
IamKaiserSoze!!!: That's why I always loved those guys. I've got a stack of old NatLamps four feet high that I still rummage through.

The stories that John Hughes did that eventually became Sixteen Candles and the Vacation series were farkin hilarious. Far darker and more twisted than the movies ever displayed.

It's hard to believe the cast of writers and cartoonists they had back in the 70s. Per Wiki:

Staff
The magazine produced and fostered some notable writing and comic talents, including (but by no means limited to) Kenney, Beard, Chris Miller, P. J. O'Rourke, Michael O'Donoghue, Sean Kelly, Tony Hendra and John Hughes.

Many important cartoonists, photographers and illustrators appeared in the magazine's pages, including Neal Adams, Gahan Wilson, Ron Barrett, Vaughn Bode, Bruce McCall, Rick Meyerowitz, M.K. Brown, Shary Flenniken, Bobby London, Edward Gorey, Jeff Jones, Joe Orlando, Arnold Roth, Rich Grote, Ed Subitzky, Mara McAfee, Sam Gross, Charles Rodriquez, Buddy Hickerson, B.K. Taylor, Bernie Lettick, Frank Frazetta, Boris Vallejo, Marvin Mattelson, Stan Mack, Chris Callis, and John Barrett.

Comedy actors John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner and Bill Murray first gained national attention for their performances in the National Lampoon's stage show and radio show, and subsequently went on to become part of Saturday Night Live's original wave of Not Ready For Primetime Players.

The magazine was art directed by Michael C. Gross (1970-1974), then Peter Kleinman (1974-1987). The business side of the magazine was controlled by Matty Simmons, who was Chairman of the Board and CEO of 21st Century Communications, a publishing company.

anyone remember Vaugn Bodes Hat?


If you can find the Chris Miller short stories amongst that stack and send me copies I will have your babies. And I am a guy.

But seriously, I have been looking for a story called "They Do Things Differently Here" for ages and I can't find it anywhere. It's about a guy that gets sent back in time to when he was 7 by his genius neighbor kid. It's farking hilarious.
 
2009-08-07 12:44:48 PM
I believe it was in 1984 when i saw the 20/20 segment on how the youth of the 1980's had changed from the youth of the 1960's.

It showed a bunch of vacant teens sitting around saying things like "ya know i really don't want to be bothered with songs that have social messages, i just want to be entertained".

Hughes certainly cashed in on that trend.
 
2009-08-07 12:46:10 PM
masteroftheuniverse.files.wordpress.com

/hot n funny
 
2009-08-07 12:47:37 PM
DarnoKonrad: You're telling me that Republicans didn't become an inside joke to get fundies to vote for neo-liberalism while they figured out new ways to fark the man whilst being the man? Because we sure look like broke joke today.

No I'm telling you that it wasn't the hippies that became republicans. Some did but not a lot.
 
2009-08-07 12:50:34 PM
TheOther: /hot n funny

Ah yes, the famous cover copied by lesser talents worldwide.

/LOVED old NatLamp
//Foto-Funnies and Letters to the editor
/and the "class War" issue with the Hiroshima gag, last of teh funneh.
 
2009-08-07 12:51:04 PM
mediaho: Bob16: mediaho: Uh... wut?

What part you having a problem with ?

"and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy."

It sounds like you have a whole load of assumptions in your head that you're not sharing with the rest of us, therefore it makes no sense.


Well thats kind of general for me to reply to. What assumptions are you saying that I'm making
 
2009-08-07 12:52:00 PM
Bob16: I believe it was in 1984 when i saw the 20/20 segment on how the youth of the 1980's had changed from the youth of the 1960's.

It showed a bunch of vacant teens sitting around saying things like "ya know i really don't want to be bothered with songs that have social messages, i just want to be entertained".

Hughes certainly cashed in on that trend.


Cool hazy memory and random assertion to go along with it, bro!
 
2009-08-07 12:53:33 PM
Bob16: DarnoKonrad: You're telling me that Republicans didn't become an inside joke to get fundies to vote for neo-liberalism while they figured out new ways to fark the man whilst being the man? Because we sure look like broke joke today.

No I'm telling you that it wasn't the hippies that became republicans. Some did but not a lot.


Strictly speaking. But governmental-asceticism of the Reagan style is not much different than the general philosophy of 'dropping out'.

At any rate, the adolescents of the 60s and 70s were the voting adult block of the 1980s. Not that anything could be done about it.
 
2009-08-07 12:57:46 PM
Bob16: DarnoKonrad: You're telling me that Republicans didn't become an inside joke to get fundies to vote for neo-liberalism while they figured out new ways to fark the man whilst being the man? Because we sure look like broke joke today.

No I'm telling you that it wasn't the hippies that became republicans. Some did but not a lot.


It's important for young people to remember that not all youth of the era were hippies and beatniks.

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2009-08-07 12:58:45 PM
lampoon.rwinters.com
 
2009-08-07 12:58:52 PM
We were actually making pretty rapid progress in this country during the 1960's and 1970's.

Civil rights for blacks, womens rights, rights for homosexuals. For the first time it became widely acceptable to say "I'm not marching off to your war". That alone was a remarkable advancement for humanity.

The came raygun and the great leap backward.
 
2009-08-07 01:00:03 PM
mediaho: i187.photobucket.com

Angry mobs shouting down something they don't want by equating it with communism? Glad nothing like that happens today!
 
2009-08-07 01:00:59 PM
DarnoKonrad: At any rate, the adolescents of the 60s and 70s were the voting adult block of the 1980s. Not that anything could be done about it.

Ah i think you will find that a lot of the depression generation voted for raygun.
 
2009-08-07 01:01:08 PM
Man they really went downhill after that issue.
 
2009-08-07 01:04:04 PM
Tor_Eckman: IamKaiserSoze!!!: That's why I always loved those guys. I've got a stack of old NatLamps four feet high that I still rummage through.

The stories that John Hughes did that eventually became Sixteen Candles and the Vacation series were farkin hilarious. Far darker and more twisted than the movies ever displayed.

It's hard to believe the cast of writers and cartoonists they had back in the 70s. Per Wiki:

Staff
The magazine produced and fostered some notable writing and comic talents, including (but by no means limited to) Kenney, Beard, Chris Miller, P. J. O'Rourke, Michael O'Donoghue, Sean Kelly, Tony Hendra and John Hughes.

Many important cartoonists, photographers and illustrators appeared in the magazine's pages, including Neal Adams, Gahan Wilson, Ron Barrett, Vaughn Bode, Bruce McCall, Rick Meyerowitz, M.K. Brown, Shary Flenniken, Bobby London, Edward Gorey, Jeff Jones, Joe Orlando, Arnold Roth, Rich Grote, Ed Subitzky, Mara McAfee, Sam Gross, Charles Rodriquez, Buddy Hickerson, B.K. Taylor, Bernie Lettick, Frank Frazetta, Boris Vallejo, Marvin Mattelson, Stan Mack, Chris Callis, and John Barrett.

Comedy actors John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner and Bill Murray first gained national attention for their performances in the National Lampoon's stage show and radio show, and subsequently went on to become part of Saturday Night Live's original wave of Not Ready For Primetime Players.

The magazine was art directed by Michael C. Gross (1970-1974), then Peter Kleinman (1974-1987). The business side of the magazine was controlled by Matty Simmons, who was Chairman of the Board and CEO of 21st Century Communications, a publishing company.

anyone remember Vaugn Bodes Hat?

If you can find the Chris Miller short stories amongst that stack and send me copies I will have your babies. And I am a guy.

But seriously, I have been looking for a story called "They Do Things Differently Here" for ages and I can't find it anywhere. It's about a guy that gets sent back in time to when he was 7 by his genius neighbor kid. It's farking hilarious.


Shoot an email to tcjon­[nospam-﹫-backwards]o­ohay*com and I'll scan and send whatever I can find. I only have the seventies vintage mags as they pretty much sucked afterthat.
 
2009-08-07 01:05:34 PM
Damn, fascist, communist, libtard Hollywood types.
 
2009-08-07 01:07:06 PM
mediaho: It's important for young people to remember that not all youth of the era were hippies and beatniks.

Good point.

Some of the hippie ethic swept across the country like a wild fire. The use of marijuana, long hair, rock music, ect. However when it came to things like political ideology the changes were not quite as widely spread.

Nevertheless there was enough of a change to bring about the big social modifications that we saw happening.
 
2009-08-07 01:08:30 PM
Bob16: mediaho: Bob16: mediaho: Uh... wut?

What part you having a problem with ?

"and bad art is extremely important when it comes to displacing good art.

If you want to encourage the formation of a stupid population good art is your worst enemy."

It sounds like you have a whole load of assumptions in your head that you're not sharing with the rest of us, therefore it makes no sense.

Well thats kind of general for me to reply to. What assumptions are you saying that I'm making


I guess the two things I got from it are that 1) good/bad art is a zero-sum game (unless i misunderstood your use of "displacing," and 2) that good or bad art has that much influence over a culture, rather than reflecting it, both of which I disagree with.
 
2009-08-07 01:11:25 PM
Bob16: DarnoKonrad: At any rate, the adolescents of the 60s and 70s were the voting adult block of the 1980s. Not that anything could be done about it.

Ah i think you will find that a lot of the depression generation voted for raygun.


Trying to make "blame raygun" the new Fark political meme a bit too hard are we?
 
2009-08-07 01:21:41 PM
mediaho: It's important for young people to remember that not all youth of the era were hippies and beatniks.

I like the race mixing = communism signs. Want to condemn a cause? Call it communist!
 
2009-08-07 01:26:50 PM
When did "family values" trump drugs and fast cars? Who let this happen?
 
2009-08-07 01:27:29 PM
>> mediaho - I guess the two things I got from it are that 1) good/bad art is a zero-sum game (unless i misunderstood your use of "displacing,"

Well if your familiar with the McCarthy period (or the incidents during the Clinton admin) you know that elites in this country paid very close attention to what was in the media and they tried to control what was in the media.

If your show looked commie to them they pulled their advertising dollars. An example would be the enormously popular Nat King Cole show which got taken off the air in short order cause it could not get sponsors.

So we are not really talking about a zero sum game. Were talking about elites deciding what you will see (i.e. displacing good art with bad art)

2) that good or bad art has that much influence over a culture, rather than reflecting it, both of which I disagree with.

See above. If the art seen was merely a reflection of what the public wanted then the right wingers during the McCarthy period would not have been able to influence what appeared in the media.
 
2009-08-07 01:28:11 PM
Most republicans these days seem to be of the pants on head variety.
 
2009-08-07 01:29:40 PM
CapnPlaty: I like the race mixing = communism signs. Want to condemn a cause? Call it communist!

yeah. i was struck by how similar those are to the teabaggers' signs... except back then i guess they spellchecked their signs.
 
2009-08-07 01:30:47 PM
From Pants Down to Wide Stance.
 
2009-08-07 01:35:56 PM
syberpud: Bob16: DarnoKonrad: At any rate, the adolescents of the 60s and 70s were the voting adult block of the 1980s. Not that anything could be done about it.

Ah i think you will find that a lot of the depression generation voted for raygun.

Trying to make "blame raygun" the new Fark political meme a bit too hard are we?


You can never be too hard when it comes blaming raygun. A great leap backward is not a good thing in case you haven't noticed.

This is where all that mealy mouth "responsibility" BS that repubs keep spouting comes back to bite them on the ass .

The repub / raygun mindset farked up the country big time and now they are learning the real meaning of the word responsibility.
 
2009-08-07 01:48:30 PM
syberpud: Bob16: DarnoKonrad: At any rate, the adolescents of the 60s and 70s were the voting adult block of the 1980s. Not that anything could be done about it.

Ah i think you will find that a lot of the depression generation voted for raygun.

Trying to make "blame raygun" the new Fark political meme a bit too hard are we?




Well, let's see, Ronny started us down the path of: deficit spending, trickle down, outrageous military spending, and de-regulation. Add to that selling arms to our enemies to fund secret wars in Central America, cutting and running in Lebanon, ramping up the war on drugs, and buddying up to the fundies in the Religious Right. Oh, and he gave us Rumsfield and Cheney.

What a hero!

Bush was a piker compared to that senile old fool.
 
2009-08-07 01:51:13 PM
Tor_Eckman: Bush was a piker compared to that senile old fool (raygun).

Exactly
 
2009-08-07 01:58:28 PM
Hate on Reagan all you want, but without him we'd still be fighting a cold war against USSR. The 80's were a time where our very life, ideals, and prosperity were threatened. Reagan's firm tone and unwavering stance allowed us to succeed, and for you all to grow up and enjoy the freedom to criticize him for everything he did.

Bob16:
This is where all that mealy mouth "responsibility" BS that repubs keep spouting comes back to bite them on the ass.


Don't lecture republicans on responsibility. the responsible thing was eliminate communism no matter the cost, and we accomplished that.
 
2009-08-07 02:09:33 PM
Existensial dyslexia: Hate on Reagan all you want, but without him we'd still be fighting a cold war against USSR.

Notice the lack of any proof
 
2009-08-07 02:10:07 PM
lol you guys are thinking about it too much

americans are greedy, we've always been greedy, that's part of what makes us american like it or not, the problem is we as a nation are horrible at texas hold'em, we think we're smart, when we're really dumb, willing to throw away cash for future possible buckets of gold, even if it's just a hoax

we're easily led like that, and that's what happened in the recent economic collapse, we're a paradise of people who prey on others for money
 
2009-08-07 02:15:42 PM
The funny part is, aside from the small wee wee joke, I'd say it bashes democrats (read the fine print in the link... I know reading farking hurts your brain.... but give it a try!)

Well no shiat. These guys all really are/were Republicans, just like the guys who do South Park. They're some of the few reasonable, moderate Republicans left, not the fundie neo-con/neo-liberal asswipes.
 
2009-08-07 02:20:34 PM
>> AdamK - lol you guys are thinking about it too much

Yeah Hamlet's disease. Definitely a problem when action is called for. You have to be very careful that you don't turn that into anti-intellectualism. You want to listen to the smart people and you want to follow their advice. If you don't you can end up like the repubs

>> americans are greedy, we've always been greedy, that's part of what makes us american like it or not, the problem is we as a nation are horrible at texas hold'em, we think we're smart, when we're really dumb, willing to throw away cash for future possible buckets of gold, even if it's just a hoax

>> we're easily led like that, and that's what happened in the recent economic collapse, we're a paradise of people who prey on others for money

I might have minor difference with that but for the most part i think your right.
 
2009-08-07 02:21:10 PM
Tor_Eckman: Oh, and he gave us Rumsfield and Cheney.

Rumsfeld and Cheney were prominent politically way before Reagan. Both were Chiefs of Staff for President Ford and both had Congressional careers before that.
 
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