Not if you sell them for their organs.

Damn speculators keep driving the prices up.

And if they fail out of school? Do we get a "cash for flunkers"?

FTA:

"The report by the USDA's Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion identified housing as the largest single expense"

Really?

I doubt that. You're not buying the kid its own house.

It's living with you. You already needed a house. You weren't going to sleep in your car until the kid came along.

Does Obama have plans for a CASH for CHUNKERS to trade in fat kids for leaner ones?

SchlingFocker: FTA:

"The report by the USDA's Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion identified housing as the largest single expense"

Really?

I doubt that. You're not buying the kid its own house.

It's living with you. You already needed a house. You weren't going to sleep in your car until the kid came along.

Come on Betty Lou, if you done get knocked up we can move out of the camero!

Mongo cut wood: Does Obama have plans for a CASH for CHUNKERS to trade in fat kids for leaner ones?

That's what the FEMA camps are for

The author must be basing the figures on teenage girls with shopping habits.

Wow. I guess it was about time someone dusted off this old chestnut. I expect to see something about it in Drew's Blog at the end of the week.

Also, a quick check of the site implies that they don't take into account any of the costs of loss of work time, higher frustration, low concentration, heartache or early death due to your children driving you up the wall.

Kids aren't for everyone, but I have to say that after having my daughter my life has changed for the better. I would spend everything I've made five times over because of the awesomeness, happiness, and genuine human emotions she has granted me.

Watching as she finds out things for the first time, and turns towards me with this amazed look in her face....it's stunning.

When she's sad or needy and she comes to me because she knows dad and mom will hold her tight and give her kisses.

Yeah it's sappy, and yes it's not for everyone...but for me....It makes everything I've done in life ...the good and the bad...worth it all to just hold her.

This is my little cupcake

FTFA: "I tell them children also have many benefits, so you have to keep that in mind," he said.

Such as....?

We're waiting.

Honestly, though. My fiancee and I are at the point where we're discussing whether we want kids or not - and between the two of us, we can't think of any reasons why we should have kids short of making our parents happy. Which, as we all know, is a terrible reason to have kids.

Read this article from Maclean's the other day, which really affirmed our desire to not have kids.

brainiac-dumdum: Mongo cut wood: Does Obama have plans for a CASH for CHUNKERS to trade in fat kids for leaner ones?

That's what the FEMA camps are for

/;o}...

I've got a coupon

shanrick: I'm sorry kids. We can't afford ya. We have to sell the lot of you for medical experiments.

Yes!

i popped in just for that!
thank you.

if we can get a bulk discount on the children of the poor, i beleive i have a proposal for eliminating hunger in some of the more modest households

Tsunami Ditka: Honestly, though. My fiancee and I are at the point where we're discussing whether we want kids or not - and between the two of us, we can't think of any reasons why we should have kids short of making our parents happy. Which, as we all know, is a terrible reason to have kids.

My husband and I have one.

It's awesome, we can still travel easily, we can live in an urban setting w/out feeling squashed and it's easy to get the kid out of the house for adult time.

I'm pretty sure we won't have more. The one we have is nine and I'm done w/ being pregnant. Once is enough.

Only $221K? Still way cheaper than a wife...

/at least my wife

My son is a year and a half old so I did the math and It would cost me $112,500.00 In child support payments till he is 18... Hmmmmmmmmm I would save over a hundred grand if I took that road,,lol

brainiac-dumdum: Not if you sell them for their organs.

and they are white

It's a long-term investment.

/Are we sure it wasn't "about" $221,382.69?

Aidan: Wow. I guess it was about time someone dusted off this old chestnut. I expect to see something about it in Drew's Blog at the end of the week.

Also, a quick check of the site implies that they don't take into account any of the costs of loss of work time, higher frustration, low concentration, heartache or early death due to your children driving you up the wall.

They really should, too... at least the loss of work time anyway.

I mean if I were to have a kid right now, I'd lose at least 1 year, probably more from my job; which would set me back by 1 year financially (so compound that as time goes on), and if I wanted to be a stay-at-home parent I'd be out roughly 16 years worth of income which, depending on the sort of employment being left behind, can be a pretty big chunk of change.

Granted someone in the thread said they were counting housing as well... and that really shouldn't count. You didn't buy the house for the kid.

tchau: Kids aren't for everyone, but I have to say that after having my daughter my life has changed for the better. I would spend everything I've made five times over because of the awesomeness, happiness, and genuine human emotions she has granted me.

Watching as she finds out things for the first time, and turns towards me with this amazed look in her face....it's stunning.

When she's sad or needy and she comes to me because she knows dad and mom will hold her tight and give her kisses.

Yeah it's sappy, and yes it's not for everyone...but for me....It makes everything I've done in life ...the good and the bad...worth it all to just hold her.

This is my little cupcake

Ok whatever. $40 if she comes with the sweater.

Tsunami Ditka: FTFA: "I tell them children also have many benefits, so you have to keep that in mind," he said.

Such as....?

We're waiting.

Honestly, though. My fiancee and I are at the point where we're discussing whether we want kids or not - and between the two of us, we can't think of any reasons why we should have kids short of making our parents happy. Which, as we all know, is a terrible reason to have kids.

Read this article from Maclean's the other day, which really affirmed our desire to not have kids.

Good article. Interesting read. I really like where the author says "if you are so giving, adopt."

/end of my two cents

basemetal: Close to a quarter million apiece? Who does the math on this crap, the same guys that put the value on pot busts?

This is why I love FARK.

It's nice to know that, in spite of the fact that my government taxes my income and uses my money to subsidize your child-rearing expenses, I'm still going to drive a nicer car than you breeders at the end of the day.

Keep your kids. I'll take a high def TV, a trip to Rome, and a new hot young thing to shag any day.

tchau: Kids aren't for everyone, but I have to say that after having my daughter my life has changed for the better. I would spend everything I've made five times over because of the awesomeness, happiness, and genuine human emotions she has granted me.

Watching as she finds out things for the first time, and turns towards me with this amazed look in her face....it's stunning.

When she's sad or needy and she comes to me because she knows dad and mom will hold her tight and give her kisses.

Yeah it's sappy, and yes it's not for everyone...but for me....It makes everything I've done in life ...the good and the bad...worth it all to just hold her.

This is my little cupcake

And, on the other the end of the spectrum... Also why I love FARK.

Tsunami Ditka: FTFA: "I tell them children also have many benefits, so you have to keep that in mind," he said.

Such as....

Getting to have your genetic duplicate attempt to accomplish everything you failed at.

Like taking over the world.

brainiac-dumdum: Not if you sell them for their organs.

Done in one!

/came here to say that

Talon:
Granted someone in the thread said they were counting housing as well... and that really shouldn't count. You didn't buy the house for the kid.

Several of the reasons we moved into a new house last year was for the kid, so I'm tacking my mortgage payments on that sucker! :)

/But it's a very nice house

Tommy Moo: It's nice to know that, in spite of the fact that my government taxes my income and uses my money to subsidize your child-rearing expenses, I'm still going to drive a nicer car than you breeders at the end of the day.

Keep your kids. I'll take a high def TV, a trip to Rome, and a new hot young thing to shag any day.

And somewhere in the middle, FARK makes me return to my jaded view of the world...

tchau: When she's sad or needy and she comes to me because she knows dad and mom will hold her tight and give her kisses.

Yes - but my kids will be forced to take care of me when I'm a geriatric, drooling mess and I'll probably cost them more than 200k!

UNC_Samurai: And if they fail out of school? Do we get a "cash for flunkers"?

I was going to say something, but I can't remember what it was now. That was funny!

given that the majority of the world's population earns less that that in a lifetime, I would like to suggest that $221,000 is perhaps an unrealistic figure and may in fact represent the amount of money needed to raise a toerag with a sense of entitlement rather than a sane human being.

Tsunami Ditka: Read this article from Maclean's the other day, which really affirmed our desire to not have kids.

IOW, you're a pair of selfish assholes. Noted.

/Reading that article made me want to have kids. If those are the best arguments for not having kids...

I have Four and you know everytime i get really depressed and want to eat my service revolver I think of them and realize what a selfish prick I am and I go give one a Hug.

Tommy Moo: It's nice to know that, in spite of the fact that my government taxes my income and uses my money to subsidize your child-rearing expenses, I'm still going to drive a nicer car than you breeders at the end of the day.

Keep your kids. I'll take a high def TV, a trip to Rome, and a new hot young thing to shag any day.

so, uhm, aside from the fact that you sound like a chovanistic jerk...
...heyyy there.

/:P

Yea, now that Michael Jackson is dead we need a cash for clunkers for kids.

basemetal: Close to a quarter million apiece? Who does the math on this crap, the same guys that put the value on pot busts?



Don't forget to weigh the dirt

brainiac-dumdum: Tsunami Ditka: Honestly, though. My fiancee and I are at the point where we're discussing whether we want kids or not - and between the two of us, we can't think of any reasons why we should have kids short of making our parents happy. Which, as we all know, is a terrible reason to have kids.

My husband and I have one.

It's awesome, we can still travel easily, we can live in an urban setting w/out feeling squashed and it's easy to get the kid out of the house for adult time.

I'm pretty sure we won't have more. The one we have is nine and I'm done w/ being pregnant. Once is enough.

I couldn't agree more. Our son is six and I've seen the way adding more children consumes time and money and sucks the fun out of things. He will stay an only child and we can live in San Francisco and take long road trips and enjoy life.

SchlingFocker: I doubt that. You're not buying the kid its own house.

Uh oh! Some white guy with money and no spouse doesn't know the difference between one bedroom and two bedroom apartments. (About $100 a month in my city).

John Henry Eden: tchau: When she's sad or needy and she comes to me because she knows dad and mom will hold her tight and give her kisses.

Something I like about Fark is peoples and their shock factor.

it's kinda cute.