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2009-08-04 05:01:15 PM  
www.talkingpointsmemo.com


Bill and Kim wait patiently for their lap dance.
 
2009-08-04 05:01:22 PM  
olddinosaur: Somewhat irrelevant, but it shows how crazy they are.

Would hit it, for the good of the motherland.
 
2009-08-04 05:01:25 PM  
Never thought I'd get to use this again

img7.imageshack.us
 
2009-08-04 05:01:47 PM  
Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: kagechikara: The_Six_Fingered_Man: If they wanted to get these women home without negotiating, there are ways.

Enlighten us, please. Clearly you've seen an action movie or two in your time.

Yes, and I have met many a Para-rescueman and SEALs.

Was that from your time in the Marine Core?


Actually, that would be from my time in the Air Force. When did you serve?
 
2009-08-04 05:01:50 PM  
ronpemberton.com
Korean chicks FTW.

/Hot like, oh I don't know...
 
2009-08-04 05:01:58 PM  
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Wardrobe_Malfunction: This is bad news...for Obama.

/Fox News
/Rush Limbaugh
/Bill O'Reilly
/Sean Hannity
/Glenn Beck
/etc.

Why? The current Administration was powerless to get 2 women freed. An EX president has more power than the Current. Seems to me like good news for the above


bwahaha so the current administration had nothing to do with this?

that's a bold statement coming from a nobody
 
2009-08-04 05:02:01 PM  
Weaver95: netweavr: Bill Clinton/Al Gore/Carter/Powell/etc can act unofficially. Thereby eliminating the whole issue.

Plausible deniablity, just like Haliburton.


Please elaborate.
 
2009-08-04 05:02:08 PM  
Sliding Carp: I spent the last year building up an immunity to iocaine powder.

I giggled like a schoolgirl.
 
2009-08-04 05:02:14 PM  
I'm normally fairly hawkish, yet it amazes me the compliants in this thread about Bubba using words, as opposed to Delta Force, to get the journalists out.

We lose nothing, when you wake up tomorrow we'll still have the ability to turn South Korea into an island any time the northern half of the pennisula annoys us. We'll still have warships shadowing North Korean merchant vessels suspected of moving nuclear materials, we'll still have ~26k troops south of the DMZ and the most powerful military known to mankind.

In exchange the crazy midget got a photo of him with Bill Clinton he can photoshop and use for internal bullshiat PR purposes, big deal.

Who knows, maybe we slipped them a little fuel or food aid under the table. Big deal, the aid likely costs a quarter of what a cruise missile strike would (them suckers aren't cheap). When you get right down it our dumbass citizes crossed the border and got busted by a hostile regime. Our citizens weren't sitting at home watching Hulu when a North Korean kidnapping squad kicked down their front door and pulled them out of their homes in CA. They were snooping around, got caught and we got them back without having to start a war over it.

Now if say NK starts sending kidnapping squads to CA to grab people, then we can talk about a military response as opposed having Bubba drop by for a visit.
 
2009-08-04 05:02:36 PM  
Weaver95: 1. What sort of bribe did we pay to get those two reporters released?

Look on the bright side, Weaves. At least it's not going to sick American kids who's families can't afford corporate health insurance.
 
2009-08-04 05:02:47 PM  
Weaver95: PascalsGhost: It was a success for America but you can't back it cause there is a CLinton involved. Congrats, you've devolved back into a partisan idiot.

After the whole Haliburton thing, I just get twitchy when the US Government outsources key diplomatic functions to private individuals.


No, you just hate the Clintons far more than you love your country.

It's pathetic really.
 
2009-08-04 05:02:55 PM  
I said it in a red-light thread and I'll say here. Is there anything this man can't do?
 
2009-08-04 05:03:02 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: kagechikara: The_Six_Fingered_Man: If they wanted to get these women home without negotiating, there are ways.

Enlighten us, please. Clearly you've seen an action movie or two in your time.

Yes, and I have met many a Para-rescueman and SEALs.

Was that from your time in the Marine Core?

Actually, that would be from my time in the Air Force. When did you serve?


Just now. You got served.
 
2009-08-04 05:03:11 PM  
Weaver95: cameroncrazy1984: What part of "no normalized diplomatic relations therefore no official negotiation" do you guys not understand? Jeez, it's not that tough a concept.

So Hillary is weak and only Bill can do her job?

got it. thanks!


Wow. Did you catch some of the crazy that's affecting all Fark IndependentsTM these days? I guess people who are so against diplomacy just don't bother to understand how it works.
 
2009-08-04 05:03:13 PM  
olddinosaur: In the DRNK they have one of these at every intersection, directing traffic which does not exist.



Somewhat irrelevant, but it shows how crazy they are.


So there is one of those on every street standing around with no one to talk to? Insane!

/scrambles to renew passport
 
2009-08-04 05:03:39 PM  
Weaver95: Plausible deniablity, just like Haliburton.

Riiiiight.

Because there's a shiat-ton of money to be made springing a couple of reporters from the NK hoosegow and giving 'lil Kim a shot at some kind of PR.

I have it on good authority that if you render asian women down to their component parts, you can run the city of Las Vegas on the byproduct for 1,000 years!
 
2009-08-04 05:03:50 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: kagechikara: The_Six_Fingered_Man: If they wanted to get these women home without negotiating, there are ways.

Enlighten us, please. Clearly you've seen an action movie or two in your time.

Yes, and I have met many a Para-rescueman and SEALs.

Was that from your time in the Marine Core?

Actually, that would be from my time in the Air Force. When did you serve?


Wow, you even served and you STILL are politics over country. Disgraceful.
 
2009-08-04 05:03:54 PM  
Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: kagechikara: The_Six_Fingered_Man: If they wanted to get these women home without negotiating, there are ways.

Enlighten us, please. Clearly you've seen an action movie or two in your time.

Yes, and I have met many a Para-rescueman and SEALs.

Was that from your time in the Marine Core?

Actually, that would be from my time in the Air Force. When did you serve?

Just now. You got served.


Original. Which reminds me. Everyone Pray for Omarion.
 
2009-08-04 05:03:59 PM  
I wonder what the wharrgarbl response is going to be. Clinton negotiates with terrorists?
 
2009-08-04 05:04:12 PM  
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Do you honestly believe ol' George W. Crackhead, Mr. "Axis of Evil" himself could have done that?

Hell, that drunkard probably can't even find N.K. on a map, let alone try any diplomatic skills.


Of course. Kim could've spun that as "look everybody! The asshole that called us part of the 'Axis of Evil' is coming back on knees begging like a f*cking dog!"

Dubya would also be forced to be ridden by Kim like a mule, with him pulling on Dubya's ears for directional commands, but hey, it'd be great TV!
 
2009-08-04 05:04:15 PM  
Rapmaster2000:

Just now. You got served.


Ouch.
 
2009-08-04 05:04:53 PM  
Weaver95: netweavr: Bill Clinton/Al Gore/Carter/Powell/etc can act unofficially. Thereby eliminating the whole issue.

Plausible deniablity, just like Haliburton.


Bill brought biatches back?
 
2009-08-04 05:04:58 PM  
PascalsGhost: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Rapmaster2000: The_Six_Fingered_Man: kagechikara: The_Six_Fingered_Man: If they wanted to get these women home without negotiating, there are ways.

Enlighten us, please. Clearly you've seen an action movie or two in your time.

Yes, and I have met many a Para-rescueman and SEALs.

Was that from your time in the Marine Core?

Actually, that would be from my time in the Air Force. When did you serve?

Wow, you even served and you STILL are politics over country. Disgraceful.


Because I think that we should have sent our Chief Diplomat or a heavily armed rescue squad instead of a former President?
 
2009-08-04 05:05:00 PM  
driven to quit: I said it in a red-light thread and I'll say here. Is there anything this man can't do?

Be abstinent?
 
2009-08-04 05:05:01 PM  
I would kick it. . . .


www.negotiationlawblog.com

For my contribution to "International Relations", of course. . . . .
 
2009-08-04 05:05:01 PM  
contrapunctus: The hand of pimp.

Strong it still is.


If you Voted for Bill or not. One must give it up to Master Hoe.
Bill is the MAN. I would bet there will be a little payment on the way home.
 
2009-08-04 05:05:02 PM  
When are these stupid American kids going to stop going to places like North Korea and Iran to fark around until they get arrested? They just end up as international bargaining chips for dictatorships.5
 
2009-08-04 05:05:05 PM  
olddinosaur: Somewhat irrelevant, but it shows how crazy they are.

I kinda like those uniforms. great color scheme.
very WWII'ish.
rawr.

Look like they could bust out with an Andrew's sister song.
 
2009-08-04 05:05:18 PM  
Anyone else amused at the fact that he didn't go over there until *after* they opened the first McNorko? Bubba still loves the fast food.... and he even got some asian to bring home!

/I'll be here all week, try the veal
 
2009-08-04 05:05:28 PM  
Donald_McRonald: I wonder what the wharrgarbl response is going to be. Clinton negotiates with terrorists?

That would be funny if John Bolten hadn't already said that.
 
2009-08-04 05:05:31 PM  
Hobodeluxe: The military-industrial-media complex frowns on Clinton's shenanigans.

God, is there a group of old white guys that could possibly be more douche-filled? Ug
 
2009-08-04 05:05:38 PM  
Weaver95: North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has pardoned two jailed American journalists and ordered their release following an unannounced meeting with former President Bill Clinton, the North's state media said early Wednesday.


hmm...

two things come to mind:

1. What sort of bribe did we pay to get those two reporters released?
2. Why was *BILL* doing this? He's not a member of the US government. He holds no official position. He is not empowered to negotiate on behalf of the US government. How did he get involved in this and why was he permitted to go and negotiate for the release of these hostages?


You are smarter than this Weaver. Do you not remember a few weeks back NK saying this about Hillary Clinton,"by no means intelligent" and a "funny lady."? They simply do not respect her and would not have spoken to her. But you know this.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:01 PM  
Hobodeluxe: Bill and Kim wait patiently for their lap dance.

I need a photoshop of a stripper on thier laps STAT!!!!

Maybe a dance pole.....
 
2009-08-04 05:06:02 PM  
stvdallas: Good of Bill to do this....however a few questions here...

Why was he doing this, and not someone official from our government such as Hillary? To me, this is more of a failure of Hillary than a success of Bill. Is Hillary so incompetent that she still needs to rely on Bill to do the real work?

Hillary is our Secretary of State, for gods sake...


Exactly, that is WHY she couldn't go. We do not have diplomatic relations with DPRK, so technically anyone bound to the presidential order cannot negotiate with them. That is why we run our communications with DPRK through Sweden.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:14 PM  
sweddjen: Could anyone possibly imagine G.W. Bush going around in a few years freeing hostages and prisoners the way Carter and Clinton do?

/didn't think so


I'm pretty sure if he sets foot in the wrong countries Bill Clinton would be coming there to secure Bush's release. Maybe.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:28 PM  
Donald_McRonald: I wonder what the wharrgarbl response is going to be. Clinton negotiates with terrorists?

yup
 
2009-08-04 05:06:31 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Because I think that we should have sent our Chief Diplomat or a heavily armed rescue squad instead of a former President?

Because you think that a) we have normalized relations with a punk state like NK and b) starting a war is worth two journalists.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:33 PM  
bartink: How the hell would you know that?

You don't.

Stupid post was stupid.


I know! Such an egregious transgression on my part to state my opinion on an internet message board!
 
2009-08-04 05:06:40 PM  
I'm sure there is a catch... for Bill.

Go ahead ladies, give the man some love while flying back to the States.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:41 PM  
Weaver95: cameroncrazy1984: What part of "no normalized diplomatic relations therefore no official negotiation" do you guys not understand? Jeez, it's not that tough a concept.

So Hillary is weak and only Bill can do her job?

got it. thanks!


Wow. That was an impressive failure of reading comprehension.
 
2009-08-04 05:06:46 PM  
the lord god: Weaver95: North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has pardoned two jailed American journalists and ordered their release following an unannounced meeting with former President Bill Clinton, the North's state media said early Wednesday.


hmm...

two things come to mind:

1. What sort of bribe did we pay to get those two reporters released?
2. Why was *BILL* doing this? He's not a member of the US government. He holds no official position. He is not empowered to negotiate on behalf of the US government. How did he get involved in this and why was he permitted to go and negotiate for the release of these hostages?

You are smarter than this Weaver. Do you not remember a few weeks back NK saying this about Hillary Clinton,"by no means intelligent" and a "funny lady."? They simply do not respect her and would not have spoken to her. But you know this.


So the question becomes, was Secretary Clinton the best choice?
 
2009-08-04 05:07:00 PM  
Clinton's an asshole and blew up a bunch of people for no good reason (a lot like Bush), but good for him for this. Makes perfect sense they couldn't send a diplomat, because we don't have diplomatic relations with NK.

Also, I just noticed that the Korean peninsula looks to be missing on the Fark world map.
 
2009-08-04 05:07:00 PM  
Well, that explains everything:

i26.tinypic.com
 
2009-08-04 05:07:15 PM  
Man, how pissed is Jesse Jackson right now?
 
2009-08-04 05:07:33 PM  
netweavr: Weaver95: netweavr: Bill Clinton/Al Gore/Carter/Powell/etc can act unofficially. Thereby eliminating the whole issue.

Plausible deniablity, just like Haliburton.

Please elaborate.


well, when the Obama folks needed to get something important done, but didn't want to risk losing face, they had someone else take all the risk for them. Bush/Cheney used Haliburton for that sort of thing in Iraq. Obama used Bill Clinton for a bit of back door diplomacy in North Korea.

It's probably not illegal, its just off the record and under the radar...which means something unethical got traded for those reporters. It's just that I thought Obama wasn't going to go that route so soon is all. Bush/Cheney's motto was 'exitus acta probat', I just didn't expect Obama to start adopting those same tactics this quickly.

A bit of advice to the Democrats - be very careful with supporting this kind of end run around the rules. In this case it worked...two innocent people got out of a nasty situation. But it sets a dangerous precedent for Obama to follow.
 
2009-08-04 05:07:42 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: or a heavily armed rescue squad instead of a former President?

or John Rambo.

Actually, Rambo might be overkill, this is, after all, NK, not Vietnam. We probably could have gotten the job done with Frank Stallone.
 
2009-08-04 05:07:45 PM  
stvdallas: Good of Bill to do this....however a few questions here...

Why was he doing this, and not someone official from our government such as Hillary? To me, this is more of a failure of Hillary than a success of Bill. Is Hillary so incompetent that she still needs to rely on Bill to do the real work?

Hillary is our Secretary of State, for gods sake...


What likely happened is they've been trying to secure a release deal for weeks if not months, and as part of the deal, NK wanted the most prestigious American they could get to come and publicly "negotiate" with Kim Jong-Il for the release of the prisoners. Al Gore is these journalists' boss, and Hillary Clinton is the SoS, so Bill Clinton makes sense as both a "private citizen" to send, and as someone with significant public standing and a close relationship to the State Department. He's a very public private citizen - but that fig leaf is still there, which leads to a greater independence in what he can do and who he can meet, since he isn't actively setting policy.

Nobody this significant from the US has visited NK since Madeleine Albright in 2000, so this is a very big deal for NK (they also never got a Clinton or a Bush visit during their presidencies, obviously.) Currently their state news is pushing photos of the meetings, so it's likely something they regard as a great success. Whatever else Bill Clinton has discussed with the North Koreans is speculative at this point, although it is likely to be a positive thing overall. First, NK using this bargaining chip now could be a sign they're more willing to negotiate or open up talks. It's possible Bill has laid some groundwork for other meetings. We'll have to see what happens.
 
2009-08-04 05:08:00 PM  
guilt by association: Well, that explains everything:

heh win!
 
2009-08-04 05:08:14 PM  
JohnBigBootay: mandingueiro: wait a sec. they break the laws of a foreign nation and because the west was indignant they get to go free? If they did not work for a high profile media outlet they would not go free.

You'd make a great aparatchik.


no, but when i'm in foreign countries I respect their laws...no matter how much i disagree w/ them.

/this is more of a PR problem based opposing political ideologies.
//and its actually spelled apparatchik
 
2009-08-04 05:08:16 PM  
Maybe if G.W.B. asked Saddam nicely he would have stepped down too ?
Instead of fertilizing Iraqi soil with dead Americans and Iraqis.
 
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