my guess is the landlord pays the electric bill?

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

Read the article. it said they couldn't find the rule against window AC units anywhere in the rules.

RocketRod: That's hot.

Keyboard and another Blue Moon please.

This just proves the lack of scientific consensus on manmade global warming.

This is such a complete crock of shiat. What's tacky are these 1960's era buildings that have no central air and sliding windows that can't easily hold a window A/C.

I blame HMO's!

/not really in this case

Hah, those apartments are like 2 blocks from my fiancee's parents house. They're total shiat, I have no idea how a window AC would make them look worse.

I guess Step 2 is charge $500 for each AC unit in your apartment building.

um,

that should be HOA's

/nothing against HMO's
//not that there's anything wrong with that

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

Troll?
FTA: A check of the rental agreements and property rules supplied by tenants by contained no mention of a ban on A/C window units.

Somebody think of the childrens

Step 1: get your doctor to note that the heat is child endangerment (in writing)
Step 2: remove a.c. after written instructions from landlord
Step 3: lawsuit
Step 4: profit!

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air.

Every place I've lived in with a lease allowed me to put in window AC units at my leisure. Indeed there was nothing in the leases about AC at all. It was understood if I wanted AC, I was putting in AC units.

Property owners get to make decisions about the property they own?

OUTRAGEOUS!

drjekel_mrhyde: RocketRod: That's hot.

Keyboard and another Blue Moon please.

Sergeant Crowley?

FTFA: Frettim said she was told that if she wanted A/C, she had to have it professionally installed at a cost of about $500, which she says she cannot afford.

I think we've found the reason, folks. This jackass wants his tenants to upgrade his property for him.

I don't know how things are in Hawaii, but around here you can go to jail for that.

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

When you signed the lease it didn't have furniture, lights, or a microwave. If you want to make the farking rules than buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

Heat stroke at 95°?

ScottHimself: Property owners get to make decisions about the property they own?

Only if they retain right to make said decision in their lease agreement or such right is covered by existing law. In other words, if you're a landlord, you can't go declaring anything you want just because you own the place.

Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

A window unit AC is not a modification to the building.

ScottHimself: Property owners get to make decisions about the property they own?

OUTRAGEOUS!

How the fark dull do you have to be to not understand a lease agreement?

Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: FTFA: Frettim said she was told that if she wanted A/C, she had to have it professionally installed at a cost of about $500, which she says she cannot afford.

I think we've found the reason, folks. This jackass wants his tenants to upgrade his property for him.

I don't know how things are in Hawaii, but around here you can go to jail for that.

Oregon...

Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

Putting in a window AC isn't a modification to the building. It sits on the window ledge, usually propped up with a few 2x4s and some concrete blocks. A year later, it falls out of the window, and the person has to buy a new window AC.

/this is Oregon, we don't think about AC until it gets over 90
//by which point its too late to do it right

How about an in-room AC. That way the only part attached to the window is an almost invisible exhaust duct.

Airfoilsguy:

The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.


Notice all the shiat the white trash has already amassed on her front porch.

Modifications? Does he hava a say-so regarding what wreath she puts on her door for xmas? it's just as much of a "modification".

Trash on the porch, is that another "modification"?

Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

Window AC unit = modifications to the building?

Frettim said she was told that if she wanted A/C, she had to have it professionally installed at a cost of about $500, which she says she cannot afford.

$500 to install a $100 A/C unit? If this is like any building I've lived in, I bet there's an 'approved installer' which happens to be owned by the brother of the building manager. Either that or electricity is included in rent and the management company is trying to bully people around to save themselves some money.

Those damn HOA's!

/

Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

How is a window AC a modification? You know they're not permanent and they don't modify anything, right?

Based on my own experience with crappy apartment buildings that don't allow AC, I'm guessing the real problem is that the individual units aren't submetered and the landlord doesn't want to get hit with higher utility bills.

landlord: simply let them keep the window AC and then simply keep their deposit when you replace the damaged window sill it was sitting on.

Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: I don't know how things are in Hawaii, but around here you can go to jail for that.

Aloha is a suburb of Portland, Oregon. It's pronounced "uh-LO-wuh", not "uh-LO-hah".

/The more you know

tolallorti: Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

Read the article. it said they couldn't find the rule against window AC units anywhere in the rules.

I bet it does give the landlord a wide range on what is considered blight on the property and he probably has a deal with a local company to install the units.

Either way just spend a little extra and get the indoor units, quit being cheap white trash.

Russ1642: A bite right away. Nice.

Dammit...

chrismac: Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

How is a window AC a modification? You know they're not permanent and they don't modify anything, right?

Based on my own experience with crappy apartment buildings that don't allow AC, I'm guessing the real problem is that the individual units aren't submetered and the landlord doesn't want to get hit with higher utility bills.

Do you realize how bad those things can damage windows if they are just slapped in there? Im sure none of you take that into consideration though, its the evil landlords problem and hes just greedy.

cmb53208

I used to live in a 60s apartment building with no central air and sliding windows, so I got a kick...

Yeah, that sort of apartment complex, in a hot climate, is the worst. I ended up doing some redneck engineering to attach a window unit AC. The space above the AC was blocked with a board, crudely cut to the right size for the window, that also helped hold the unit in place as a vertically-opening window would. It looked pretty tacky, indeed, but it worked. The complex supposedly had a rule against it, but I got away with it. It must have been a halfway decent installation, too, because it survived an earthquake.

Either that or electricity is included in rent and the management company is trying to bully people around to save themselves some money.

I'm guessing the real problem is that the individual units aren't submetered and the landlord doesn't want to get hit with higher utility bills.

I'm going with this.

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

He knows this is a dumb comment. He just wants attention.

Solty Dog: Just put a fan in front of the freezer.

Is that a joke, or just a big fail on the understanding of how freezers work?

steamingpile: chrismac: Airfoilsguy: The person who owns the building should have the final say of what modifications to said building can be made.

How is a window AC a modification? You know they're not permanent and they don't modify anything, right?

Based on my own experience with crappy apartment buildings that don't allow AC, I'm guessing the real problem is that the individual units aren't submetered and the landlord doesn't want to get hit with higher utility bills.

Do you realize how bad those things can damage windows if they are just slapped in there? Im sure none of you take that into consideration though, its the evil landlords problem and hes just greedy.

Oh no! The window AC might cause $15 in damages to a window sill, that is already covered by a security deposit for the apartment!

That's almost hot enough to boil water.

/That's uncomfortable, but heat stroke?

Mr. Breeze: How about an in-room AC. That way the only part attached to the window is an almost invisible exhaust duct.

500 bucks
/Ok maybe 400

Airfoilsguy: When you signed the lease it didn't have air. If you want to make the farking rules then buy your own house. Otherwise shut the fark up or move.

when you posted to the thread the article was linked right there at the left. You chose not to read the article, now shut the fark up.

steamingpile: Do you realize how bad those things can damage windows if they are just slapped in there? Im sure none of you take that into consideration though, its the evil landlords problem and hes just greedy.

So charge people for the damages (or take it out of their deposit), if they screw up the windows. Don't endanger the health of tenants with asinine rules that aren't in the lease.

Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: FTFA: Frettim said she was told that if she wanted A/C, she had to have it professionally installed at a cost of about $500, which she says she cannot afford.

I think we've found the reason, folks. This jackass wants his tenants to upgrade his property for him.

I don't know how things are in Hawaii, but around here you can go to jail for that.

Aloha is in Oregon, west of Beaverton and Tigard.

95 degrees is pretty damn cold.

\kelvin

steamingpile: Do you realize how bad those things can damage windows if they are just slapped in there? Im sure none of you take that into consideration though, its the evil landlords problem and hes just greedy.

Lots of things cause damage if done incorrectly. I don't really see why we should start banning all of them when we already have a perfectly good system of charging tenants for damage caused by the crap they do and deducting it from their security deposit.

There is no rational reason to tell people they can't have AC -- in a heat wave, no less -- unless you have a significant financial interest in it. You'll note that the first thing the landlord said was that it "looked tacky" not that it was going to cause damage to the windows.

I'm keeping my money on "units not submetered."