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(parentdish.com)   Mayo Clinic doctors to Jenny McCarthy, 'There is no link between diet and autism. STFU and get back to nekkid' Well maybe they didn't say the second sentence but that's what they meant   (parentdish.com ) divider line
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2009-07-31 02:40:50 PM  
Just to ponder something but has anybody ever wondered why places like the Mayo clinic don't "help" some of these lunatics "go away"? Why do some big businesses allow professional litigants to sue them without "helping" the fish by providing them with sleeping partners. You never hear anybody ask those questions. Maybe that's why I never got into the good schools.
 
2009-07-31 02:40:54 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: This really smells fishy with the global forced vaccination campaign gearing up, and it's shame, The Mayo Bro's were good folks by all accounts.


Yes, preventing diseases like smallpox is clearly devious & underhanded.

[I had intended to post a photo of a smallpox victim here -- a disease eliminated through mass vaccination -- but every photo I could find was too disgusting to post. GIS for it if you're not eating...]

Plagues are where it's at, baby!
 
2009-07-31 02:41:16 PM  
between jenny mccarthy, farrah fawcett and carrie fisher in a metal bikini, i wonder who's responsible for the most kitten deaths
 
2009-07-31 02:42:06 PM  
Do you think advances in medical care have led to more babies being born that might have not made it to birth during eras of lesser advances medical care and which more often experience birth defects, retardation, etc...?

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2009-07-31 02:43:04 PM  

jshine: TFA:"What they call 'scientific' are these expensive double-blind tests,"


It's difficult to say, but the Picard facepalm doesn't quite cut it here. So, here's a link for the EPIC FACEPALM (new window) on YouTube.
 
2009-07-31 02:43:53 PM  
BigMevy:

She had a gang bang video?

Google for it. Some will tell you she's a lookalike. She's a lookexactlylike.

/penis gored
 
2009-07-31 02:44:13 PM  
Mayo Clinic: Never mind the evidence, OUR MINDS ARE MADE UP (of eggs, etc...).
 
2009-07-31 02:44:20 PM  
I'll bet the rise in autism correlates to a drop in spankings.

/Not the "you have to extra for that" kind
 
2009-07-31 02:45:16 PM  

stirfrybry: Do you think advances in medical care have led to more babies being born that might have not made it to birth during eras of lesser advances medical care and which more often experience birth defects, retardation, etc...?


Very likely. There are some who believe that this is part of the reason that infant mortality rates in the US and A are embarassingly high. It is a whole 'nother subject.

And double blind tests are the way to go, for any non science farkers not in on the snark.
 
2009-07-31 02:46:18 PM  

fireclown: stirfrybry: Do you think advances in medical care have led to more babies being born that might have not made it to birth during eras of lesser advances medical care and which more often experience birth defects, retardation, etc...?

Very likely. There are some who believe that this is part of the reason that infant mortality rates in the US and A are embarassingly high. It is a whole 'nother subject.

And double blind tests are the way to go, for any non science farkers not in on the snark.


Science: It works, biatches!
 
2009-07-31 02:47:46 PM  
Jenny McCarthy is wrong, according to researchers at the Mayo Clinic.

I'm guessing that this headline will end up killing fewer people than Jenny McCarthy.
 
2009-07-31 02:48:09 PM  
One of my friends has Aspengers, is 40 and her husband is 38 - she wants to go in for in-vitro fertilization. I wish I could stop her. They are intelligent [not common sense wise obviously] but I am betting that kid will be autistic or LD. Why spend all that money to know you're probably getting a loser?
 
Ant
2009-07-31 02:48:51 PM  
 
2009-07-31 02:50:21 PM  
The day I found out I was an adult Indigo will stay with me forever. I was walking hand in hand with my son down a Los Angeles street when this women approached me and said, "You're an Indigo and your son is a Crystal." I immediately replied, "Yes!" and the woman smiled at me and walked away. I stood there for a moment, because I had no idea what the heck an Indigo and Crystal was, but I seemed so sure of it when I had blurted out "Yes!" After doing some of my own research on the word Indigo, I realized not only was I an early Indigo but my son was in fact a Crystal child. From that point on things in my life started to make sense. I always wondered why I was a ball-buster and rule breaker on TV, and at that moment I knew exactly why. I was born to not only think outside the box, but to break that box up into a million pieces.

- Jenny McCarthy, 2006



I've said it before, witnessed it many times, and I'll say it again: Having children causes brain damage, and makes you partially insane. It makes a normally rational person throw logic out the window.

Parenthood is a worse drug than meth.
 
2009-07-31 02:50:51 PM  
FTA: "Physicians listed with the advocacy organization Defeat Autism Now stick to their belief in the link between food and autism.

Dr. Rochelle Neally, a chiropractor at the Long Beach Autism Center in California questions large-scale medical studies. They are often backed by the big money of monolithic pharmaceutical companies," she said.

"What they call 'scientific' are these expensive double-blind tests," she said. "I tend to believe what I see in my office and what I've seen at the autism conferences I've attended for the past 10 years."



That booming sound you heard was my head exploding in rage.
 
2009-07-31 02:52:19 PM  
If I eat poison it could kill me. Bad food is slightly better than poison. Autism is slightly better than death. Therefore, bad food causes autism. QED.
 
2009-07-31 02:52:22 PM  
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2009-07-31 02:53:20 PM  
I have a two year old, whom I've delayed vaccinations with (just the ones where there's family history of reaction because, you know, I have a VERIFIABLE reason to avoid them) and so I often end up chatting with moms who delay/avoid vaccinations.

I would say at least 9/10 of the ones I talk to think thimerosol causes autism.

Then again, when I posted looking for advice on creative disciplinary and potty training methods to utilize with my *extremely* active 2 year old, I got a huge number of 'Sounds like autism!' replies. No, he's a ridiculously active and stubborn two year old - just like I was at his age - and if I don't crack down on his behaviour right now, he's going to be a complete brat, which is unacceptable. I'm not going to spend years bullying doctors into giving him a label when I know this kid just really *does* need an extremely firm disciplinarian. He's strong willed, not special needs. I was *exactly* the same way when I was his age. Too many parents seem to want a medical resolution to their parenting problems.

Autism is the 'parenting boogeyman.' Too many parents look there first, instead of looking at themselves and their methods before exploring medical possibilities. Truly, evaluation and early intervention for autistic kids is great. But at the same time, I really think a huge portion of the parents out there freaking out about this stuff just have very smart and very strong willed kids that they have no idea how to parent.

And by all of that, I mean that J-Mc needs to shut the hell up because she is the root of all my mom-interaction woes.
 
2009-07-31 02:54:08 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Parenthood is a worse drug than meth.


It's certainly more expensive & harder to quit.
 
2009-07-31 02:56:26 PM  

Braindeath: One of my friends has Aspengers, is 40 and her husband is 38 - she wants to go in for in-vitro fertilization. I wish I could stop her. They are intelligent [not common sense wise obviously] but I am betting that kid will be autistic or LD. Why spend all that money to know you're probably getting a loser?


The urge to procreate (not just to fark, but to actually produce children) defies all logic. Otherwise, I wouldn't feel any kind of envy of people who have children. I know they're paying out the ass for their precious snowflakes and have forfeited their lives to them, but at least they have a moral center for the rest of their lives. They know that as long as they are taking care of their children they are always doing the right thing. It also takes the pressure off of them to produce anything of value themselves, because "I was busy raising the children" is a valid excuse for any amount of personal failure. Those are the true benefits of parenthood.
 
2009-07-31 02:56:53 PM  

bighairyguy: Not the "you have to extra for that" kind


"you have to extra for that."

Did you accidentally the whole thing?
 
2009-07-31 02:58:50 PM  

magical_mystery_meat: Braindeath: One of my friends has Aspengers, is 40 and her husband is 38 - she wants to go in for in-vitro fertilization. I wish I could stop her. They are intelligent [not common sense wise obviously] but I am betting that kid will be autistic or LD. Why spend all that money to know you're probably getting a loser?

The urge to procreate (not just to fark, but to actually produce children) defies all logic. Otherwise, I wouldn't feel any kind of envy of people who have children. I know they're paying out the ass for their precious snowflakes and have forfeited their lives to them, but at least they have a moral center for the rest of their lives. They know that as long as they are taking care of their children they are always doing the right thing. It also takes the pressure off of them to produce anything of value themselves, because "I was busy raising the children" is a valid excuse for any amount of personal failure. Those are the true benefits of parenthood.

 
Ant
2009-07-31 02:58:57 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I've said it before, witnessed it many times, and I'll say it again: Having children causes brain damage, and makes you partially insane. It makes a normally rational person throw logic out the window.


It doesn't happen to everyone. Becoming a dad made me want to teach logic, science, and critical thinking to my son before he gets into the public school system.
 
2009-07-31 03:01:10 PM  

Ant: ZeroCorpse: I've said it before, witnessed it many times, and I'll say it again: Having children causes brain damage, and makes you partially insane. It makes a normally rational person throw logic out the window.

It doesn't happen to everyone. Becoming a dad made me want to teach logic, science, and critical thinking to my son before he gets into the public school system.


It affects men a bit less than women. If you had a daughter who was about 13 years old, you'd be insane just like the rest of them.
 
2009-07-31 03:04:36 PM  
Jenny McCarthy is the worst thing for public health since McDonalds. I genuinely feel for her and her desire to know what caused the disease in her child, but she's harming other people spreading that BS. Some cities are actually losing herd immunity thanks to people who believe that hooey.

And the person they gave the most column space to from the whack-job Autism organization was a CHIROPRACTOR!! Not a neurologist or even a pediatrician, a CHIROPRACTOR. Who is dismissing a perfectly legit study and saying that less reliable studies and anecdotal evidence should be held as gospel instead. Wow. Way to promote good science, MSM.
 
2009-07-31 03:04:43 PM  

Perducci: superoogie: But she's a pareeeeeennnnt. That automatically makes her qualified to ignore all medical and scientific information about her chiiiiillllllddd.

Yeah, sounds a lot like the crappy parents who let their kids run around like little brats. Ask them to please do something about it and their Weeners is usually "Do you have kids?! If not, you have no right to say anything about how I raise mine!"

Sorry Cletus, but being a parent does not automatically make you an expert on anything.


"I may not have children but when you're doing your laughable impersonation of someone with good parenting skills in public I have free reign to say something and publicly mock you. Now, can you please do something about your child -- which after the last 20 minutes of having to deal with them it is blindingly obvious that you should have swallowed that load -- or do I have to call CPS?"

/gets really cranky in lines
//also an asshole
 
Ant
2009-07-31 03:06:19 PM  

tlchwi02: the article alone gave more talking point time to a chiropractor who has never done a study in her life than any of the real scientists or doctors on there....


This is how it is for all science-related reporting. They always give more time to the crazy stuff than they do to boring old reality.
 
2009-07-31 03:09:45 PM  
But, she is a MOTHER AND HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TELL HER ABOUT HER CHILDREN AND YOU KNOW KNOW SQUAT BECAUSE YOU DON"T HAVE ANY KIDS OF YOUR OWN!


ummm....

sorry...

I've been on the receiving end of this nutty outrage a couple of times.
 
2009-07-31 03:09:48 PM  
This is why celebrities suck, and why we should stop worshiping them as if Hollywood is the new Mt. Olympus.

This celebrity-obsessed culture will kill us all.
 
2009-07-31 03:10:17 PM  
Meh, it's not being a parent that grants you the Infallible-Mom super-power. You only get that by pushing a living being through one of your orifices. With the exception of Richard Gere, guys are clearly ineligible.
 
2009-07-31 03:10:28 PM  

LarryDan43: If parents just shipped their kids off to children's insane asylums like they did in the old days the autism truthers would go away.


I still have nightmares about the Shalebridge Cradle.

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2009-07-31 03:12:54 PM  

kurfu: But, she is a MOTHER AND HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TELL HER ABOUT HER CHILDREN AND YOU KNOW KNOW SQUAT BECAUSE YOU DON"T HAVE ANY KIDS OF YOUR OWN!


ummm....

sorry...

I've been on the receiving end of this nutty outrage a couple of times.


I now have a 5 month old which gives me +5 "you're not a parent" immunity
 
2009-07-31 03:15:14 PM  

Braindeath: One of my friends has Aspengers, is 40 and her husband is 38 - she wants to go in for in-vitro fertilization. I wish I could stop her. They are intelligent [not common sense wise obviously] but I am betting that kid will be autistic or LD. Why spend all that money to know you're probably getting a loser?


Wait what?
 
Ant
2009-07-31 03:15:25 PM  
Here, fap to Amanda Peet instead. She actually supports vaccination (new window)

men.style.com
 
2009-07-31 03:16:39 PM  
Somewhere along the epistemological train ride, these people decided to tuck and roll.
 
Ant
2009-07-31 03:18:32 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I've never heard her mention anything about food causing autism. She was all about vaccines.

This really smells fishy with the global forced vaccination campaign gearing up, and it's shame, The Mayo Bro's were good folks by all accounts.


WTF are you talking about? You're not one of those people, are you?
 
2009-07-31 03:18:38 PM  

featurecreep: kurfu: But, she is a MOTHER AND HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TELL HER ABOUT HER CHILDREN AND YOU KNOW KNOW SQUAT BECAUSE YOU DON"T HAVE ANY KIDS OF YOUR OWN!


ummm....

sorry...

I've been on the receiving end of this nutty outrage a couple of times.

I now have a 5 month old which gives me +5 "you're not a parent" immunity



I come from a big family - the youngest of seven kids, now have 17 nieces & nephew 20-ish great nieces & nephews... basically I come from a good family and have been around kids all my life... so I learned a lot of stuff... But, a single mom who was only only child from a broken family told me that I can't possibly know a damn thing simply because I never procreated. Yeah, right.
 
2009-07-31 03:18:56 PM  
You know, people have been saying for a while that the human gene pool was going to get muddled because there really isn't anything that will cull the dumb from the herd.

I don't think that's true anymore. I think the recent episodes of people shunning traditional doctors and medicine because of god or herd driven fear will begin to play an increasing role of killing off the stupid.

My only worry is that they'll take down the rest of us, since community based vaccinations become less effective when a large part of the population shuns them.

However, until then, I'm perfectly fine with Jenny McCarthy killing her own children out of neglect. It just means that she won't pass on the stupid in the gene pool.
 
kgf
2009-07-31 03:19:17 PM  
MidnightSkulker
....Then again, when I posted looking for advice on creative disciplinary and potty training methods to utilize with my *extremely* active 2 year old, I got a huge number of 'Sounds like autism!' replies. No, he's a ridiculously active and stubborn two year old - just like I was at his age - and if I don't crack down on his behaviour right now, he's going to be a complete brat, which is unacceptable. I'm not going to spend years bullying doctors into giving him a label when I know this kid just really *does* need an extremely firm disciplinarian. He's strong willed, not special needs. I was *exactly* the same way when I was his age. Too many parents seem to want a medical resolution to their parenting problems.

Autism is the 'parenting boogeyman.' Too many parents look there first, instead of looking at themselves and their methods before exploring medical possibilities. Truly, evaluation and early intervention for autistic kids is great. But at the same time, I really think a huge portion of the parents out there freaking out about this stuff just have very smart and very strong willed kids that they have no idea how to parent.


And while you didn't actually come right out and say it, reading between the lines makes me think you're one of those people who believes that ADD doesn't exist and is simply caused by bad parenting. (I know you're talking about autism, but your too-familiar statements ring a bell.) As the father of two kids with ADD, I hope that you are right and your child simply needs a firm hand and develops into a normal, healthy child. But if that's not the case, I hope you don't go through too many years of reward charts, endless reminders, spankings, privilege removals, pointless positive reinforcement, tears and anger before you finally realize it's real.

I believe the ADD and autism labels are over-used, but that doesn't mean they doesn't exist.

For the record, Jenny McCarthy is a twit - vaccines have nothing to do with autism or ADD. My personal belief is that both conditions have genetic bases and can be aggravated by things like smoking and drinking during pregnancy, etc.

/just my $0.02
 
2009-07-31 03:20:13 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: FTA: "Physicians listed with the advocacy organization Defeat Autism Now stick to their belief in the link between food and autism.

Dr. Rochelle Neally, a chiropractor at the Long Beach Autism Center in California questions large-scale medical studies. They are often backed by the big money of monolithic pharmaceutical companies," she said.

"What they call 'scientific' are these expensive double-blind tests," she said. "I tend to believe what I see in my office and what I've seen at the autism conferences I've attended for the past 10 years."


That booming sound you heard was my head exploding in rage.


Oh god me too. I'm at a 10 on the rage-ometer. It's called anecdotal evidence and it is about as far from science as alchemy. Also you're a farkING CHIROPRACTOR, stupid lady from article!! You jiggle people's spines! Not a nutritionist or a physician or a occupational therapist, or even a psychologist. My electrician is about as equally qualified to weigh in on this issue as you you goddamn mouthbreather.
 
Ant
2009-07-31 03:20:45 PM  

AliasUndercover: Enfenestrate: saddlesablazin: Ok I'm not defending Jenny or saying I agree with that thinking, but keep in mind that at one time the pinnacle of medicine was covering yourself with leaches. Just saying.

Right. Until other doctors came along and figured out that the leeches were stupid and didn't do anything.

And now we use them for microsurgery...


How do they hold the scalpels?
 
2009-07-31 03:21:02 PM  
Just here for the pics, so far so good, but it is a little thin.
 
2009-07-31 03:21:34 PM  

Enfenestrate: saddlesablazin: Ok I'm not defending Jenny or saying I agree with that thinking, but keep in mind that at one time the pinnacle of medicine was covering yourself with leaches. Just saying.

Right. Until other doctors came along and figured out that the leeches were stupid and didn't do anything.


They didn't do anything when used for things like they were being used for hundreds and thousands of years ago (bloodletting) but they actually do something good when used for microsurgery (new window)
 
2009-07-31 03:22:02 PM  

kurfu: because I never procreated.


There, there, now why don't you run along the adults men parents are talking.
 
2009-07-31 03:23:28 PM  
No photos of her child's conception... never happened.
 
2009-07-31 03:24:00 PM  
Jenny McCarthy needs to take her seat now:

i488.photobucket.com
 
2009-07-31 03:25:47 PM  
FTA: Physicians listed with the advocacy organization Defeat Autism Now stick to their belief in the link between food and autism.

Dr. Rochelle Neally, a chiropractor .....


I am reminded of 9/11 Troofers whose "PhD" experts always turn out to have doctorates in psychology or divinity. Ain't it odd....
 
2009-07-31 03:26:14 PM  

Dinjiin: I think the recent episodes of people shunning traditional doctors and medicine because of god or herd driven fear will begin to play an increasing role of killing off the stupid.



please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right please be right
 
2009-07-31 03:27:49 PM  

Ant: Here, fap to Amanda Peet instead. She actually supports vaccination (new window)


Hot flesh injections, FTW!
 
Ant
2009-07-31 03:28:00 PM  

Lottie: I genuinely feel for her and her desire to know what caused the disease in her child


She claims that a gluten-free diet cured her kid of his autism, so there's some doubt as to whether he ever had it in the first place. Autism is incurable as far as I know.
 
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