I hope they give the biatch the chair, that would teach all those other teachers to fark around with there students.

ActionFigure: The video starts with the reporter saying "She says she's the victim of exactly what makes some people afraid to go into teaching..."

for real? is anyone analyzing career options and saying "I would love to teach, but I am not going to because I don't want to be accused of having sex with a student"?

I find that very hard to believe.

There's been study after study after study that bears this out, almost exclusively for males.

Then, as a result, young girls have few if any positive male role models/mentors in their lives and, hence, never learn that there are ways to garner positive attention from males (particularly older ones) that don't involve tramping it up and resorting to using their sexuality for attention

As a result they're even more likely to instigate affairs with male teachers (the notion that teen boys are willing and enthusiastic participants when they sleep with adult female teachers but teen girls who do the same with male teachers are not is patently absurd) and, hence, the circle of life continues.

Once again, the "law of unintended consequences" rears its ugly head and the very sex-based moral panic that claims to "protect" teenage girls (all the sex laws on the book are purportedly there to protect EVERYONE but we all know well that it's truly only women who are "protected" by them and men who are vigorously prosecuted for breaking them) drives men from careers as teachers results in more sluttier girls having more sex with either their peers or other older men.

TommyymmoT:
Now let me get this straight.
In Rhode Island, it's legal for 16 year olds to work as strippers.
It's legal for them to rip off their tops, and shake their tits in your face, yet if you have a picture of one on your hard drive, you go to prison for 12 years?

Of course. Come on, everyone knows you aren't allowed to take pictures in strip clubs.

ciocia: doyner: While it is a travesty (if she's innocent), it is a bit refreshing to see a woman get burnt for the kind of thing men have been getting nailed for for years.

Thank god we live under the puritan tradition that will ruin people at the mere accusation of sexual misconduct.

Oh_Enough_Already: Wait, you mean you were fired, shamed, arrested, basically had your life turned upside down and ruined all based on an unproven, unsubstantiated and completely untrue allegation?

Wow, that's horrible.

WELCOME TO BEING A MAN, TOOTS.

No, welcome to the late-running 1984 (the society, not the book). See, the average person could read this story and think, "Gee, if this happens to women, too, it could happen to anybody. Maybe the problem is injustice, and we should all fight that." But people who basically hate women--like the examples we see here--are delighted with injustice.
//You need help.

Nobody, here, I believe, "hates women."

What we hate is injustice.

And NOBODY is a bigger proponent of injustice or beneficiary of injustice than women are.

Think about it: they cry and cry and cry for equal rights, opportunities, etc but clam up (no pun intended) when the responsibilities, obligations or consequences of those rights come into play.

Women who break the law are all but uniformly given lighter sentences than males who do the same across the board (especially when they claim some "evil male" either forced them to do it or was so "mean" to them that they "lost control" and committed whatever crime they did.

Nowhere is this more true than with sex-related crimes and the near-to-daily accounts of female teachers sleeping with underage males.

As long as "equality" is what they're demanding anybody who even remotely considers them self a "feminist" should be DEMANDING that these women get punished just as severely as men for this kinda shiat, right?

Well, ladies . . .

crickets chirp . . . . . .

If not, if the sexes are NOT truly equal then there are a myriad group of rights that women should be willing to give up in exchange for being a protected class of citizens as well as members of a group seldom held accountable for their actions socially, morally or legally.

Seriously, I will contribute 500.00 to the defense fund of the first male who's arrested for having sex with an underage female who's lawyer takes his case to the USSC on appeal when he is severely punished as such punishment (given the minuscule sentences women receive for COMITTING THE SAME DAMN CRIME!!!) is in flagrant violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

So we'll just wait for the evidence, properly submitted in impartial trial proceedings, and justice will be served with no harm to the innocent.

Wait. Yes. Right.

drxym: Why do people take polygraph tests ?

Some people actually believe they work. They'd be wrong of course, but hey.

Is that the only experience you've had?

Polygraph tests don't work. I am shocked that a school and police would over react in this manner. C'mon, fire a teacher based on a 16 yr old jocks bragging? Chances are he made it up.

If she is innocent, I hope she wins the lawsuit.

I predict that she wins a huge lawsuit, and leaves town. If anyone follows her, they'll find that she's still shacking up with boy she's accused of sleeping with, in addition to his friend who started the rumors.

The police officer in charge of the case is also in on the scheme and will end up dead.

The student will end up killing everyone else involved, and get away with the settlement money.

I have finally decided to finish my History degree and was planning to teach at the high school level. Both of my parents are retired high school teachers. I have been told by my parents, a female professor of mine, and few other people, not to do it because of this ongoing "witch-hunt". I look younger than I am (28). Having a young son, teaching would be great for me because of the schedule. But reading the comments here and from what I have heard from the people I know, I am seriously considering a different career path.

This story is making me so angry! I cannot believe that this woman is being prosecuted based on a rumor started by a horny teenager! I am so angry about this and it is just making my blood sugar begin to drop! ARGH!

HOW DARE THE POLICE DO THIS?

MangoPie1569: I have finally decided to finish my History degree and was planning to teach at the high school level. Both of my parents are retired high school teachers. I have been told by my parents, a female professor of mine, and few other people, not to do it because of this ongoing "witch-hunt". I look younger than I am (28). Having a young son, teaching would be great for me because of the schedule. But reading the comments here and from what I have heard from the people I know, I am seriously considering a different career path.

And, you're reasonably hot which means you'll be a target for both fappage as well as innuendo.

MangoPie1569: I have finally decided to finish my History degree and was planning to teach at the high school level. Both of my parents are retired high school teachers. I have been told by my parents, a female professor of mine, and few other people, not to do it because of this ongoing "witch-hunt". I look younger than I am (28). Having a young son, teaching would be great for me because of the schedule. But reading the comments here and from what I have heard from the people I know, I am seriously considering a different career path.


Tell them you have a son...oh wait, that will just bring on the milf rumors. hmm. Just wear a fat suit everyday? Nothing stops a teenage hardon like a fat teacher.

oh_enough_already:
As long as "equality" is what they're demanding anybody who even remotely considers them self a "feminist" should be DEMANDING that these women get punished just as severely as men for this kinda shiat, right?

Well, ladies . . .

crickets chirp . . . . . .

If not, if the sexes are NOT truly equal then there are a myriad group of rights that women should be willing to give up in exchange for being a protected class of citizens as well as members of a group seldom held accountable for their actions socially, morally or legally.

Your proposal intrigues me. Since, statistically, white folks also receive comparatively light prison sentences compared to African-Americans, they seem to be one of those protected classes, too. What rights do you think white people should give up in return?

No poly, no waiver, no statement.

Brainwash: I have to beg to get a young woman to date me

You sound fat. Or poor. Or both.

suraimu: Madbassist1:
Covington Ky is not like "Southern" Ky. It's right across the bridge from Cincinnati, where the Cincinnati Intl. airport is actually located, and frankly, is a better, classier place than cinci. Next time, do your research, troll-boy.

This.

Protip: Everything in, near, or related to Ohio is a dump.

Chicken Fried Internets: Kalashinator:
I guess I should be thankful I spent most of the 80's in diapers.


How old were you when you stopped wearing diapers?

/I guess it depends...



I haven't had my coffee yet!

ciocia: oh_enough_already:
As long as "equality" is what they're demanding anybody who even remotely considers them self a "feminist" should be DEMANDING that these women get punished just as severely as men for this kinda shiat, right?

Well, ladies . . .

crickets chirp . . . . . .

If not, if the sexes are NOT truly equal then there are a myriad group of rights that women should be willing to give up in exchange for being a protected class of citizens as well as members of a group seldom held accountable for their actions socially, morally or legally.

Your proposal intrigues me. Since, statistically, white folks also receive comparatively light prison sentences compared to African-Americans, they seem to be one of those protected classes, too. What rights do you think white people should give up in return?

Prove it.

I suspect you're misguidedly referencing the well known sentencing disparities that exist between the penalties for powder cocaine vs. crack cocaine.

And said discrepancies (unjust as they may admittedly be) effect blacks more because more blacks use crack.

It's not BECAUSE they're black.

No defense attorney ever argued in open court "but your honer, my client is white."

Can you say the same for attorneys representing women?

That they've never argued for leniency (and RECIEVED it - often times without even asking for it merely at the judge's discretion) because of their client's gender?

Furthermore, previous records, likelihood of "rehabilitation" (I know the concept of said in prison is absurd but it's still taken into account in sentencing) etc, also play a role.

Sad as it may be to admit such either to yourself or publicly lets say (hypothetically)two teens were charged (independently of one another) with the same crime and came up for sentencing.

One is black and one is white.

Who is - statistically - more likely to have a previous record, criminal history, etc? The black one or the white one?

These issues cannot be introduced at trial obviously but they factor into sentencing.

So yeah, your comparison is fundamentally without merit.

Such discrepancies obviously exist but - although the race-baiting hucksters would have you believe otherwise - they are not intrinsically BASED on race.

Please try again.

SchlingFocker: ninjakirby: Better than Satan-Daycare sex from the 80's.

Dude, that shiat NEVER goes away.

During a lecture we had in school this summer, on child abuse, guess what one of the first reasons listed for child abuse was?

That's right, satanic cults.

Farking 2009, and they're still spewing that tired bullshiat.

WTF? Where do you live?

Oh_Enough_Already: And said discrepancies (unjust as they may admittedly be) effect blacks more because more blacks use crack.

Actually this is not true and your false statement is making me so angry! You should look up the statistics!

LOOK THEM UP!

l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w: Baz the Spaz:
//No student want's that...

Grammar nazi WTF??? You're a teacher???

He probably doesn't teach English.

O.K. Here's some stats, which you have already discounted (though they have nothing to do with crack), since you have your excuses at the ready. The truth is, the system is loaded against blacks, the poor who can't afford good lawyers, and against male defendents. Check the prison Bernie Madoff got, and the one a B and E guy will get. Nobody is talking about cutting off basic rights for rich people.

The fact that women are prosecuted for having sex w/teenagers is a major sea change. In the olden days, more people were like farkers -- the "boy got lucky" mentality.

But go on with your bad self. Wallow in bitterness, while the rest of us live our lives. You enjoy it there.

Not enough in high school to screw the hot chick and be everybody's hero anymore

Now - you have to screw the hot teacher.

Next - you're nobody until you're in high school pimping all the hot teachers out to the pimply high school nerds saving their money up from working at burger king just to get 15 mins of giggitty with Ms. Feltchya, the new Social Studies temp.

DON'T talk to the police. It is quite simple. (new window)

The Fark of the Covenant: Oh_Enough_Already: And said discrepancies (unjust as they may admittedly be) effect blacks more because more blacks use crack.
Actually this is not true and your false statement is making me so angry! You should look up the statistics!

LOOK THEM UP!

Pardon me, you're right, more blacks are arrested for using crack.

In either case the notion that blacks receive stiffer sentences than whites who commit the same crime BECAUSE they're black is patently absurd.

No one, however, can argue that women accused of crimes (particularly sex crimes) do INDEEED receive lighter sentences than men who commit the same crimes.

LastTrueViking: l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w: Baz the Spaz:
//No student want's that...

Grammar nazi WTF??? You're a teacher???

A typo? My God! Suspend and fire the man immediately!

That's not a typo. That's habit.

Coming on a Bicycle: Why do people take polygraph tests ?

I volunteered to take one once. They never actually called me in to do it though, probably because I'd volunteered.

Somebody blew up the video store where my wife used to work (it turned out that the owner did it for the insurance money)

Holy crap, people.. SEX WITH A HOT HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER.

quit with the race bait comments, you bigot trolls... go masturbate to some porn (NSFW/new window)and chill out!

You want stats.. my stats show jerking off relieves tension.

aiiee: Sounds like maybe teacher-student sex is the new witch-hunt since you know daycare sex is so last week.

F*cking authorities thinking only of their *careers* no matter who gets hurt... I'd like to school them myself.

THIS

Firing someone based on rumor is an invitation to shell out lots of money even in an at will state

ciocia: O.K. Here's some stats, which you have already discounted (though they have nothing to do with crack), since you have your excuses at the ready. The truth is, the system is loaded against blacks, the poor who can't afford good lawyers, and against male defendents. Check the prison Bernie Madoff got, and the one a B and E guy will get. Nobody is talking about cutting off basic rights for rich people.

The fact that women are prosecuted for having sex w/teenagers is a major sea change. In the olden days, more people were like farkers -- the "boy got lucky" mentality.

But go on with your bad self. Wallow in bitterness, while the rest of us live our lives. You enjoy it there.

You're not very bright, are you?

People convicted of non-violent, white collar crimes (especially those with NO PREVIOUS RECORD like Madoff) do not get sent to the same kind of prisons as a "B&E guy."

Furthermore, breaking and entering is NOT a federal crime and, hence such a conviction would not result in said defendant being sentenced to a FEDERAL PRISON, you silly, misguided, and utterly delusional child.

Thanks for playing though!

Better luck next time.

I was once fired for rumors that I had given a guy a bj in the bathroom at work...I know how this feels. Should have sued...

WMangoPie1569: I look younger than I am (28).

Maybe it's a bad pic, but you don't really look younger than 28.

GAT_00: Shiat like this is why I'm so wary of teaching high school. I'm not really opposed to it, or hell anyone who will hire me shortly, but if I end up teaching, I'm mounting farking cameras in the classroom and keeping a damn log. Way too easy for stuff like this to start on you, real or not, and then you're farked for the rest of your life, even if it is fake. Can we please get penalties at least equal to the penalties for underage sex on fake accusations?

THIS THIS THIS. Cameras in the classroom and people should be prosecuted for false accusations there are laws on the books for perjury, enforce them. There are rules for false rumors too, its call slander, go after the parent's or the kids future earnings

Feminists Then: "We mustn't crack down on false rape allegations by women because it will scare off legitimate victims!"

Feminists Now: "Wait, this is being used against us?! Shut it down! NOW!"

This is why I will never teach any grade higher than 2nd grade, and even that's pushing it. Kids these days can pull the abuse card out any time they want and it's like they are infallible. I had a snot-nose 5th grader tell my assisstant that he would call DFACS on her if she got onto him one more time. When she told him that she never laid a hand on him he replied "It doesn't matter. They'll get you anyway." and then made mention that he and his friends use the same threat on their parents. Kids really do know that they are impervious to any kind of legal consequences for lying and ruining someone's life. Scary!

Kalashinator: log_jammin: Kalashinator: /actually at a loss for words to explain how retarded that is

it was a big deal in the 80's. we had to sit through more than one "satan wants to touch your peepee" and "we're you born with a tail? of course not! thats how we KNOW evolution is the devils idea!" lecture in school.

Your school treated evolution as satanism? I went to Catholic schools all my life and not one teacher (couple of them were nuns) tried to pass bullshiat like that on us. I guess I should be thankful I spent most of the 80's in diapers.

Oddly enough (or possibly not so, considering the truly epic history of integrity with Catholic education), Catholic schools have never been real big on mixing theology with science. I went to a school run by Jesuits and was taught evolution in science class and transubstantiation in theology class ;)

Btw, for those who are curious, this sums up the Church's position on things like genetics, evolution, astronomy, physics, etc:


The question about the origins of the world and of man has been the object of many scientific studies which have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the age and dimensions of the cosmos, the development of life-forms and the appearance of man. These discoveries invite us to even greater admiration for the greatness of the Creator, prompting us to give him thanks for all his works and for the understanding and wisdom he gives to scholars and researchers.... 284. The great interest accorded to these studies is strongly stimulated by a question of another order, which goes beyond the proper domain of the natural sciences. It is not only a question of knowing when and how the universe arose physically, or when man appeared, but rather of discovering the meaning of such an origin.


Or to summarize:

Science = How.
God = Why.

To be truthful, only American-style "Christians" are idiots. Even rural Muslims out in Bumfarkistan have less retarded ideas about the relationship between science and religion. It's one good thing about the Catholic Church - It's a global organization, so it hasn't been entirely tainted by this very American brand of idiocy.

Pronto_Breakneck: Protip: Everything in, near, or related to Ohio is a dump.

0/10

Oh_Enough_Already: In summation, Ms. ciocia

That would have been funnier with proper grammar.

l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w: Baz the Spaz:
//No student want's that...

Grammar nazi WTF??? You're a teacher???

Give me a farking break. It was late and I'm on vacation. Besides, I am not an English teacher. The English teachers in my school are all a bunch of Nazis and can all die in a fire, except for Andrea who is hot and a cool person, but maybe that's why she is leaving.

Anyway...go screw yourself l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w

/And the pig you rode in on, too.
//No, I am not in a good mood today.