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(New York Daily News)   NYPD says man needs to register his flintlock, despite NYC law that says he doesn't have to register it   (nydailynews.com) divider line 488
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2009-07-30 01:11:10 PM
Not big on guns in general... but this gives me an erection. One day, I will buy one.

The Baker Rifle

www.personal.usyd.edu.au
 
2009-07-30 01:19:13 PM
OlafTheBent: Not big on guns in general... but this gives me an erection. One day, I will buy one.

The Baker Rifle


My father made one. When he dies, it's mine. In the mean time, he made me this one:

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Oh, and *WOOHOO*, first greenlight *AND* it's about flintlocks!
 
2009-07-30 01:20:58 PM
LAPD - Protect and serve

NYPD - Enforcing the laws we don't even have
 
2009-07-30 01:23:17 PM
Why does this seem like a repeat?
 
2009-07-30 01:31:11 PM
Magua smiles on these shenanigans.
 
2009-07-30 01:33:58 PM
dittybopper: Oh, and *WOOHOO*, first greenlight *AND* it's about flintlocks!

That is freaking beautiful... like "work of art" beautiful.
 
2009-07-30 01:36:37 PM
NikolaiFarkoff: Magua smiles on these shenanigans.

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Yes, yes he does.
 
2009-07-30 01:38:02 PM
Next up. Registering Airsofts.
 
2009-07-30 01:39:47 PM
jonasborg: Why does this seem like a repeat?

Simple. "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin.

www.olegvolk.net
 
2009-07-30 01:43:59 PM
If there is the law and he is not the violationer of this law then he should not be forced to obey the law that he is not violating. So I do not understand the issue of this.
 
2009-07-30 01:49:33 PM
I thought a flintlock rifle was the one weapon everyone agreed was covered by the Second Amendment.
 
2009-07-30 01:52:27 PM
sepuku2: Next up. Registering Airsofts.

Why are the "Airsoft" people just too good to say that they play with BB guns?
 
2009-07-30 01:53:05 PM
NewportBarGuy: It's for home defense. I swear.

The best defense is a good offense :)
 
2009-07-30 01:54:48 PM
meow said the dog: If there is the law and he is not the violationer of this law then he should not be forced to obey the law that he is not violating. So I do not understand the issue of this.

Guns are considered "bad" in NYC. They harass you as much as they possibly can in order to minimize the number of people who own them. Even people who follow the law, like this guy.

Of course, that doesn't mean that they think they have to follow the law themselves: They got their collective pee-pee's slapped by the ATF for making illegal straw purchases in an investigation outside of their legal jurisdiction.
 
2009-07-30 01:55:02 PM
Snarfangel: I thought a flintlock rifle was the one weapon everyone agreed was covered by the Second Amendment.

The people who want to see a police state come about, with American subjects instead of citizens, would prefer to see ZERO firearms in the hands of subjects.
 
2009-07-30 01:55:54 PM
SchlingFocker: Why are the "Airsoft" people just too good to say that they play with BB guns?

Beats me. I own a Crossman.
 
2009-07-30 02:03:10 PM
SchlingFocker: Why are the "Airsoft" people just too good to say that they play with BB guns?

Because back in the day we played Gat Wars with pellet guns like REAL AMERICANS. That shiat hurt.

Bonus points for stealing golf carts and using them in your maneuvers.

Airsoft is for pussies. Oh... wait a second.

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OOPS (new window)
 
2009-07-30 02:05:43 PM
SchlingFocker: The people who want to see a police state come about, with American subjects instead of citizens, would prefer to see ZERO firearms in the hands of subjects.

It feels more like the people who want a police state are the same gun owners looking for some kind of armed conflict so they can act out their Red Dawn masturbatory fantasies.
 
2009-07-30 02:07:47 PM
NewportBarGuy: Airsoft is for pussies. Oh... wait a second.

It may be tacticool, but they're still BB guns :)
 
2009-07-30 02:09:26 PM
NewportBarGuy: It feels more like the people who want a police state are the same gun owners looking for some kind of armed conflict so they can act out their Red Dawn masturbatory fantasies.

Listening to some of the radio commercials for gun stores here in Houston during the ramp up to the elections last year and after the elections, I really think that most of the store owners were just milking it for money.

Not to say that some of them aren't masturbating to the idea of peeing in a radiator. But, I don't think they were the majority.

Oh, and they're remaking Red Dawn.
 
2009-07-30 02:11:06 PM
Fark New York. Bunch of pussies. Did you see how all those elitist Manhattanites when running wide-eyed just because a building was falling down?

/Too soon?
 
2009-07-30 02:12:51 PM
NewportBarGuy: Because back in the day we played Gat Wars with pellet guns like REAL AMERICANS. That shiat hurt.

We used to use those wrist-rocket slingshots and gravel... dressed in our older brother's football equipment.

/good times... really
 
2009-07-30 02:15:39 PM
SchlingFocker: Oh, and they're remaking Red Dawn.

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2009-07-30 02:16:22 PM
NewportBarGuy: SchlingFocker: The people who want to see a police state come about, with American subjects instead of citizens, would prefer to see ZERO firearms in the hands of subjects.

It feels more like the people who want a police state are the same gun owners looking for some kind of armed conflict so they can act out their Red Dawn masturbatory fantasies.


You mean the Red Dawn where the "Wolverines" last about 3 or 4 months of active conflict against third rate rear echelon troops, and less than a month after real combat troops engage them, and the only two survivors manage to make it by running away?

That one?
 
2009-07-30 02:19:49 PM
dittybopper: You mean the Red Dawn where the "Wolverines" last about 3 or 4 months of active conflict against third rate rear echelon troops, and less than a month after real combat troops engage them, and the only two survivors manage to make it by running away?

That one?


Dude, you don't understand. These people think THEY are John Wayne. "If only they dun it our way, it'd work out diff'rnt like."

I love my guns, but some people have this obsession with federal law enforcement to an unhealthy level. "Deyse cumin to gets me lucky guns! AHHHHHHH"

Registering a flintlock is, however, incredibly stupid. Let's register slingshots next.
 
2009-07-30 02:22:14 PM
dittybopper: In the mean time, he made me this one:

Sweet! Have you taken it out yet?
 
2009-07-30 02:45:47 PM
So they want him to register a flintlock as a handgun...

WTF?
 
2009-07-30 02:47:17 PM
meow said the dog: If there is the law and he is not the violationer of this law then he should not be forced to obey the law that he is not violating. So I do not understand the issue of this.


Larry: Ohhhh Balki! Again? What mix-up do we have to bail you out of this time? (laff track)

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(fifteen minute slide whistle and laff track then go to commercial)
 
2009-07-30 02:59:00 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: dittybopper: In the mean time, he made me this one:

Sweet! Have you taken it out yet?


That picture is from around 2000-ish. Yes, I have indeed. In fact, that picture up above is me in all my Maguan glory loading it at the last station of this years Southern Vermont Primitive Biathlon.

I've let the brass tarnish, only because carrying around the equivalent of a flashing mirror when you are hunting is kinda counterproductive.
 
2009-07-30 03:08:14 PM
NewportBarGuy: dittybopper: You mean the Red Dawn where the "Wolverines" last about 3 or 4 months of active conflict against third rate rear echelon troops, and less than a month after real combat troops engage them, and the only two survivors manage to make it by running away?

That one?

Dude, you don't understand. These people think THEY are John Wayne. "If only they dun it our way, it'd work out diff'rnt like."

I love my guns, but some people have this obsession with federal law enforcement to an unhealthy level. "Deyse cumin to gets me lucky guns! AHHHHHHH"

Registering a flintlock is, however, incredibly stupid. Let's register slingshots next.


So let me understand this.. First you call people that voice opposition to things like this "crazy" then you voice opposition to this? Does that make you a "crazy john Wayne type"?
 
2009-07-30 03:31:54 PM
dittybopper: That picture is from around 2000-ish. Yes, I have indeed. In fact, that picture up above is me in all my Maguan glory loading it at the last station of this years Southern Vermont Primitive Biathlon.

I've let the brass tarnish, only because carrying around the equivalent of a flashing mirror when you are hunting is kinda counterproductive.


Oh how cool is that? My Dad gave me a Winchester 1886 .38-56 many years ago. It sat idle until a friend of mine cut 200 rounds down from some .45-70 brass as a gift. I would love to take a nice trophy with it...shoots like a dream but it's difficult to figure past 100 or so yards. A 250 grain bullet like gravity.
 
2009-07-30 03:43:06 PM
The lead detective on the case told Littlejohn's lawyer that he had orders "from higher-ups" to pursue the case, according to an e-mail the lawyer sent to Littlejohn.

so the cops know they don't have a leg to stand on, but because one of their bosses can't masturbate unless everything and everyone everywhere has to have a license before being permitted to get out of bed in the morning, they have to harass a guy who's done nothing wrong.

yeah. great move there guys.
 
2009-07-30 03:44:51 PM
So can you carry a flintlock in NYC or not?

I bet some modern gun company could make a "technical flintlock" with the workings encased in a double or triple barrel pistol configuration to be sold in NYC to those who wish to legally carry
 
2009-07-30 03:45:08 PM
The_Ancient: First you call people that voice opposition to things like this "crazy"

Bzzzt.

Stop right there.

He's talking about the people who view EVERYTHING as a conspiracy by the Feds. He's calling them crazy.

He states that this particular incident IS stupid.

The guy in the loony bin who says that there are bats on the wall, clowns under the bed, Jesus in his feces, and cockroaches on the door doesn't stop being crazy just because you actually see a cockroach on his door one day.
 
2009-07-30 03:48:31 PM
The loophole allows license-free ownership of "antique firearms" - defined as rifles that require the bullet and gunpowder to be loaded separately.


holy shiat, really?

Then that leaves percussion cap and revolvers.

You could easily make a revolver with smokeless powder and percussion caps that is just as modern and deadly as any other revolver.

no license?

wooooo!

www.trackofthewolf.com
 
2009-07-30 03:51:19 PM
eqtworld: So can you carry a flintlock in NYC or not?

I bet some modern gun company could make a "technical flintlock" with the workings encased in a double or triple barrel pistol configuration to be sold in NYC to those who wish to legally carry


No. NYC and NYS law treats a loaded flintlock handgun the same as a modern handgun - It has to be registered.

They consider a muzzleloader to be loaded if you have the materials needed to load it, ie., powder and ball for a flintlock, and also caps if it's a percussion gun.

You can *OWN* one, without the materials to load it, with no restrictions according to the law. That's what this guy is doing, and they are trying to nail him for it, simply because he accidentally left a receipt for it at the local Staples and somebody wet their panties about it.
 
2009-07-30 03:54:10 PM
dittybopper: eqtworld: So can you carry a flintlock in NYC or not?

I bet some modern gun company could make a "technical flintlock" with the workings encased in a double or triple barrel pistol configuration to be sold in NYC to those who wish to legally carry

No. NYC and NYS law treats a loaded flintlock handgun the same as a modern handgun - It has to be registered.

They consider a muzzleloader to be loaded if you have the materials needed to load it, ie., powder and ball for a flintlock, and also caps if it's a percussion gun.

You can *OWN* one, without the materials to load it, with no restrictions according to the law. That's what this guy is doing, and they are trying to nail him for it, simply because he accidentally left a receipt for it at the local Staples and somebody wet their panties about it.


So basically you can't have any kind of working firearm.

/Unless you are a criminal
 
2009-07-30 03:55:08 PM
I'm just trying to wrap my head around someone calling the cops over a gun receipt. Around here the clerk would either throw it away or call you and ask if you need it.
 
2009-07-30 03:56:12 PM
OlafTheBent: Not big on guns in general... but this gives me an erection. One day, I will buy one.

I have a percussion cap .54 cal

It is a total pain in ass. I imagine a flintlock would be so much work it's not worth it.
 
2009-07-30 04:06:32 PM
eqtworld: OlafTheBent: Not big on guns in general... but this gives me an erection. One day, I will buy one.

I have a percussion cap .54 cal

It is a total pain in ass. I imagine a flintlock would be so much work it's not worth it.


Totally not true.

The only major difference in loading and firing is that you tip a bit of powder in the pan instead of putting a cap on the nipple.

It's really only a pain in the ass if you do it the hard way.

I have a loading block that keeps my patched balls ready to go, and I pre-make paper cartridges. I also have a small priming doohickey.

Here is my loading sequence:
1. Vent pick goes in the touch hole, frizzen down to hold it.
2. Tear open cartridge, pour powder down the barrel.
3. Put loading block on muzzle, slam a ball down with short starter.
4. ram it all the way down with ramrod.
5. Remove pick, dribble some 4F into pan from doohickey, close frizzen.
6. Fire.

It's pretty quick and easy to do.
 
2009-07-30 04:09:01 PM
The Constitution also says he has to join a militia.
 
2009-07-30 04:09:08 PM
When have gun control advocates ever cared about what the law actually states?
 
2009-07-30 04:09:26 PM
sepuku2: Next up. Registering Airsofts.

Illegal in Chicago. Really.
 
2009-07-30 04:09:52 PM
eqtworld:
So basically you can't have any kind of working firearm.

/Unless you are a criminal


Well, no.

You *CAN* have a working handgun. You just have to pay the $300+ in fees, and jump through the proper hoops (there are lawyers who specialize in filling out the paper work. That's how bad it is), and then they might give you permission to own one. Maybe.

Helps, of course, if you are politically well connected, or very rich. Those are just about the only people in NYC who can get carry licenses. The rest usually get licenses limiting them to home and/or business premises.
 
2009-07-30 04:11:03 PM
JosephFinn

The Constitution also says he has to join a militia.

We're all part of a militia.
 
2009-07-30 04:11:28 PM
bogey: I'm just trying to wrap my head around someone calling the cops over a gun receipt. Around here the clerk would either throw it away or call you and ask if you need it.

A receipt itself implies that it's a legal transaction: People don't generally get receipts for illegal goods.
 
2009-07-30 04:12:13 PM
Wait now - from the gates threads I believe I understood the proper response to a cop in any situation is to simply shut up and comply? Is that right?
 
2009-07-30 04:12:27 PM
bogey: I'm just trying to wrap my head around someone calling the cops over a gun receipt. Around here the clerk would either throw it away or call you and ask if you need it.

Don't try to comprehend it, it's New York City. They selected Hillary Clinton to represent them.

/OMFG! He must be a mugger or mobster or towelhead if he's buyin' guns!
 
2009-07-30 04:12:46 PM
Even thought the law says it is not needed, I side with the cops.

It is a dangerous weapon and it should be registered.

He has a "right" to it but I have a right to my safety and peace of mind.
 
2009-07-30 04:13:14 PM
I have a gub. Do I need a license for it?
 
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