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2009-07-29 12:49:25 PM
www.wnd.com

"Ed Helms will be playing me in the inevitable film adaptation of this farce."
 
2009-07-29 12:49:27 PM
Dear birther arseholes,

You don't know what the fark you're doing.

Two words:

President Biden.

Does that send chills down your spine? Give you night terrors? Ye gods, it does me.

So just farking stop this nonsense already.

Signed,
Dog Welder
 
2009-07-29 12:49:33 PM
netweavr: Look Obama beat Hillary in the Primary.

I garun-f*cking-tee you, if there was anyway to invalidate Obama's nomination, Hillary would have found and exploited it.


pretty much. I wonder how many people she hired/fired to find/come up empty on that one.
 
2009-07-29 12:49:52 PM
The article says " ... who can prove to my satisfaction that Barack Obama ... ".

Translation: my mind is made up and it will not change.

I wouldn't waste my time.
 
2009-07-29 12:51:31 PM
Butterflew: netweavr: Look Obama beat Hillary in the Primary.

I garun-f*cking-tee you, if there was anyway to invalidate Obama's nomination, Hillary would have found and exploited it.

pretty much. I wonder how many people she hired/fired to find/come up empty on that one.


I'm guessing all of them.
 
2009-07-29 12:52:17 PM
belowner: Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

The evolution of the concern troll.

I have noticed this angle being used more and more.
 
2009-07-29 12:53:24 PM
belowner

Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

Like what? Was his father a Samoan? I can't think of any reason that "negro" would have been better. Were they not married? Is that still a big deal?

What could be on his birth record that you think would be so damaging?
 
2009-07-29 12:55:04 PM
Facetious_Speciest: belowner

Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

Like what? Was his father a Samoan? I can't think of any reason that "negro" would have been better. Were they not married? Is that still a big deal?

What could be on his birth record that you think would be so damaging?


he doesn't know but it concerns him greatly.
 
2009-07-29 12:55:12 PM
Facetious_Speciest: belowner

Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

Like what? Was his father a Samoan? I can't think of any reason that "negro" would have been better. Were they not married? Is that still a big deal?

What could be on his birth record that you think would be so damaging?


It's because there is nothing on it.

Ergo, there is no reason to release it.

People are saying "well, I don't see any smoke, but that just makes me more suspicious that something is on fire."
 
2009-07-29 12:55:13 PM
Well... my parents seem to be under the impression that Hawaii is a foreign country so they wouldn't be impressed by a Hawaiian birth certificate either.

Don't worry. I'm embarrassed enough for the both of them.
 
2009-07-29 12:57:04 PM
bravian: /the short version: Hillary becomes president because Byrd and Biden were in on it
//seriously


Did Nancy Pelosi recently catch a fatal case of ebola or something?
 
2009-07-29 12:58:22 PM
belowner: Yankees Team Gynecologist: When you go to the DMV to renew your license and they accept your two forms of ID, if a homeless guy on the sidewalk asked you for a third form of ID on your way out after you were finished, would you race home to go get it and bring it back to show him?

If I was farking US president and it became this big a deal?

Sure.

Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

Hell, I had to find my own original to get a passport. I'm sure everyone has vetted his BC for citizenship, I'm just good and curious what else is on it that is making them keep it a secret.

It's like a 40's radio mystery.




You don't need your original to get a passport. You need one that the state certifies as accurate, like the one that was released.
 
2009-07-29 12:58:37 PM
Only a natural born American citizen can be POTUS. Obama is POTUS. Therefore he is a natural born American citizen.

/I'll take that $100K in cash please
 
2009-07-29 12:58:46 PM
THX 1138: Stay Cool Babylon: You can't even get a license to drive in this nation without proving citizenship

Stay Cool Babylon: ...waiting for someone to say, "b-b-but you can get a license without being a NBC!!!" while ignoring the real point of my post. A better example would have been getting a social security card. Next on your list: typos.

Well, here goes:

I'm not a citizen (natual born or otherwise) and I have both documents you listed. All fully legally obtained. Neither one requires citizenship. Next on your list: a modicum of research about your topic.


Frankly, I wasn't aware that a social security card was issuable to a non-citizen. I have never claimed to be correct about everything that I post. Nevertheless, this was a secondary flaw, a poorly chosen attempt to back up the idea that some agency, at some point in time, must have vetted Obama's citizenship before allowing him access to the Senate, let alone the presidency. To think otherwise is to assume either vast conspiracy, or vast and widespread negligence, EITHER of which is less likely than the idea that maybe, just maybe, President Obama is in fact a natural citizen of these United States.

At some point in your life, as an American, one proves his or her citizenship. Documents issued thereof are often used to provide that same proof for further documents that require citizenship. My point is that somewhere along the line, a valid proof must have been offered. And I virtually GUARANTEE that someone in the DNC, Clinton's campaign, or Illinois confirmed this.
 
2009-07-29 12:59:11 PM
Prank Call of Cthulhu: Nice beard, Jason. You're still not fooling anyone.

I wonder how many weeks he's been trying to grow that mustache.
 
2009-07-29 01:00:24 PM
THX 1138: Next on your list: a modicum of research about your topic.

Almost forgot. Next on your list: Try not to be such a dick about it when a simple, "Actually, you're wrong" will suffice!
 
2009-07-29 01:00:26 PM
NeoKhan: Dude, read the rest of my posts. I agree with you. The age doesn't matter since he was born in Hawaii. Only if he'd been born elsewhere would it matter.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm piling on. :-) But seriously. He has no reason to give these people the time of day. C'mon. He's from Chicago and has the CIA at his disposal. He could have them wacked at will.
 
2009-07-29 01:01:12 PM
Gamer Grrrl: zibalt: netweavr: zootsuit: netweavr:It's the same place he died.

lolwut

Barack Obama's dad was also named Barack Obama.


That's a common misconception. Kenyans don't technically have fathers. They can't breed, so they have to recruit.
 
2009-07-29 01:03:27 PM
Stay Cool Babylon: THX 1138: Next on your list: a modicum of research about your topic.

Almost forgot. Next on your list: Try not to be such a dick about it when a simple, "Actually, you're wrong" will suffice!


Well, I was kind of a dick earlier in the post so, yeah, never mind about that.

/christ I'm really bad at this today
 
2009-07-29 01:04:25 PM
chuggernaught: Only a natural born American citizen can be POTUS. Obama is POTUS. Therefore he is a natural born American citizen.

/I'll take that $100K in cash please


NOT MY PRESIDENT
 
2009-07-29 01:05:07 PM
esteban9: From this guy's website. Actually, it's a slide show of several pics of his coolness. Thousand words, etc.

He looks like a used car (snake oil) salesman. And those coins are Scaary
 
2009-07-29 01:05:24 PM
tweekster: The evolution of the concern troll.

I have noticed this angle being used more and more.


That's cute. I'm not a concern troll. Here, I'll be more direct for you:

ANSWER THIS farkING QUESTION: WHAT THE fark IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT THEY WON'T RELEASE IT? DON'T PRETEND THAT THEY HAVE, DON'T GO FULL farkING RETARD AND TELL ME IT'S NORMAL TO HIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND DON'T farkING LIE TO ME AND TELL ME YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR OWN BIRTH CERTIFICATE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE A GODDAMN RETARD.

I had to dredge up my birth certificate for my passport. There wasn't a whole lot of information on it.

Why the Obama camp is keeping the hatches battened on his is why I'm curious.

Facetious_Speciest: Like what? Was his father a Samoan? I can't think of any reason that "negro" would have been better. Were they not married? Is that still a big deal?

I don't know! I don't really care, either. But since they've worked so hard to keep it from being released, I'm curious why.

Curious. Once upon a time, before retards like tweekster came along, this was a normal condition.
 
2009-07-29 01:07:10 PM
So from the State of Hawaii that is taxing gambling winnings Gross (not Net) Link (new window)
You know, doing the liberal thing of taxing the pants off of you. Then this very same state produces a bogus Birth Certificate... and you all accept it? Bwahahhaaaaa libtards

blog.spout.com
 
2009-07-29 01:07:43 PM
Aphrodine: Well... my parents seem to be under the impression that Hawaii is a foreign country so they wouldn't be impressed by a Hawaiian birth certificate either.

Its not about being a Natural Born Citizen. Its about being a Real AmericanTM. Real AmericansTM don't come from Hawaii. Hawaii is an exotic vacation destination with lots of brown people and lots of Buddhists and beaches. Its not a sovereign State with a governor who gave a speech supporting Sarah Palin at the GOP National Convention. Real AmericansTM don't have anthropologists for mothers, don't come from mixed marriages between a Kenyan and a Kansan, and they don't spend time in Moozlim places like Indonesia when they are young. The entire Birther movement is built on an unstated assumption of racist provincialism. No one brings up George Romney (Mitt's dad) who ran for POTUS and was actually born in Mexico. McCain was born in Panama but he was military, so that makes him a Real AmericanTM.
 
2009-07-29 01:10:33 PM
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2009-07-29 01:10:40 PM
belowner: But since they've worked so hard to keep it from being released

"He came from somewhere back in her long-ago..."
 
2009-07-29 01:11:02 PM
fracto73: You don't need your original to get a passport. You need one that the state certifies as accurate, like the one that was released.

They take both. Getting my original was easier.

netweavr: It's because there is nothing on it.

Ergo, there is no reason to release it.


That's a horseshiat argument.

If there's nothing on it, there's no reason to NOT release it. That's an equally horseshiat argument.
 
2009-07-29 01:11:28 PM
belowner: Why the Obama camp is keeping the hatches battened on his is why I'm curious.

Why not?
 
2009-07-29 01:12:36 PM
belowner: If there's nothing on it, there's no reason to NOT release it. That's an equally horseshiat argument.

There's no reason for me to not walk around my house naked while masturbating to images of Emus getting eaten by Dingos either.

That doesn't mean I should do it.
 
2009-07-29 01:14:29 PM
belowner: Yankees Team Gynecologist: When you go to the DMV to renew your license and they accept your two forms of ID, if a homeless guy on the sidewalk asked you for a third form of ID on your way out after you were finished, would you race home to go get it and bring it back to show him?

If I was farking US president and it became this big a deal?

Sure.

Even though you aren't honest enough to admit it, deep down you know there's something, something there. It's not his citizenship. That's established. But there's something on the birth certificate he doesn't want out.

Hell, I had to find my own original to get a passport. I'm sure everyone has vetted his BC for citizenship, I'm just good and curious what else is on it that is making them keep it a secret.

It's like a 40's radio mystery.


Man. I just love these threads SO VERY MUCH. You guys are so farking retarded it's awesome.
 
2009-07-29 01:14:59 PM
netweavr: belowner: Why the Obama camp is keeping the hatches battened on his is why I'm curious.

Why not?


"Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake." - Napoleon
 
2009-07-29 01:14:59 PM
Dog Welder: Dear birther arseholes,

You don't know what the fark you're doing.

Two words:

President Biden.

Does that send chills down your spine? Give you night terrors? Ye gods, it does me.

So just farking stop this nonsense already.

Signed,
Dog Welder


There's a Birther on another forum I post to, and he would be fine with that. Since Obama's a full-on Communist bent on destroying America, he figures anything would be an improvement.
 
2009-07-29 01:15:38 PM
belowner: Why the Obama camp is keeping the hatches battened on his is why I'm curious.

Because they've already released legal proof that he's a natural-born citizen. They don't need to release anything else.

Moreover, the fact that he hasn't released the long-form certificate is keeping a lot of retards occupied. Just think, if they didn't have this to whine about, they could get into something that actually matters.
 
2009-07-29 01:16:08 PM
Magorn: Huh, in the article they Mention that this "businessman" Jason Hommel "runs a silver business and offer stock advice"


I woder why they omitted the bit about him also being either a fundmentalist whack-job or a con Man preying on the religiously gullible (new window)

Seems he's decided that paper money is a tool of the Antichrist and honest Christians should use..surprise surprise: Silver coins-his silver coins to be exact:

"You can convert your abominable paper money into honest money at seekbullion.com. Look for our "LOVE GOD" 1 troy oz. .999 fine rounds. These are our most popular design! Your fellow Christians are paving the way to return to honest money!"


I swear becoming a millionaire would be a hell of a lot easier if I didn't have a damn conscience. Even as an atheist, I'd still feel pretty damn shiatty pulling a stunt like that.
 
2009-07-29 01:17:27 PM
with hundreds of millions of dollars in his campaign...and someone goes for 10 million we can prove he isnt a citzen...(trust me ten is plenty to bribe someone to lose their job...


you dont think he would have done it?
 
2009-07-29 01:17:52 PM
writergrrl11:
This might seem a little simplistic and I'm sure someone with much more power then me has already said this but, even if he was born in Kenya, his mom is American and according to Section 1401 of Title 8 this is enough: Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
Link (new window)
Why is that so difficult?


The problem is no proof is good enough. You already had Orly Taitz sprouting bs that the only thing that would satisfy her is that Obama dig up the grave of his father and nationalise him on television and make it retroactive to before his death. Really it doesn't matter what the law says and how much a citizen Obama is, how do you argue with people like this? Let alone the comparisons with stopping Obama being president is the same as stopping Hitler and the third Reich. They are so utterly of the deepend, they make some of the 9/11 truthers seem kind of normal. It is really really really really really depressing. It is impossible to prove to get the money as nothing is good enough.
 
2009-07-29 01:18:44 PM
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2009-07-29 01:19:04 PM
belowner: tweekster: The evolution of the concern troll.

I have noticed this angle being used more and more.

That's cute. I'm not a concern troll. Here, I'll be more direct for you:

ANSWER THIS farkING QUESTION: WHAT THE fark IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT THEY WON'T RELEASE IT? DON'T PRETEND THAT THEY HAVE, DON'T GO FULL farkING RETARD AND TELL ME IT'S NORMAL TO HIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND DON'T farkING LIE TO ME AND TELL ME YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR OWN BIRTH CERTIFICATE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE A GODDAMN RETARD.

I had to dredge up my birth certificate for my passport. There wasn't a whole lot of information on it.

Why the Obama camp is keeping the hatches battened on his is why I'm curious.


You mean, aside from the fact that his birth certificate is none of your farkin' business, and the notion of parading it around just to appease the curiosity of a handful of noisy, and wholly unqualified, retards seems like a bad idea to him?

Do you make a habit of showing people on the street your birth certificate?

/Please remove your shiny, little, idiot helmet and join the happy people in the land of reality.
 
2009-07-29 01:21:30 PM
This is the perfect opportunity for someone in the HI vital statistics office who hates their job to present the certificate and collect several years worth of salary before they are fired. Hell, I'd do it and go on laughing to my next job. I'm surprised some schlub here in AK hasn't done that with Trig Palin's birth certificate.
 
2009-07-29 01:22:10 PM
netweavr: There's no reason for me to not walk around my house naked while masturbating to images of Emus getting eaten by Dingos either.

That doesn't mean I should do it.


I was going to have fun with you, but you're clearly retarded. And dishonest to boot. I wouldn't do business with you.

joethebastard: Because they've already released legal proof that he's a natural-born citizen. They don't need to release anything else.

Of course they don't have to. Go back up to my initial, uh, missive (does that get filtered?) and I started off by saying he was obviously born in Hawaii. Citizen. Eligible to be Pres. That argument is settled.

I'm just wondering what's on that piece of paper they want to keep secret. There's not much info on a birth certificate, but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.
 
2009-07-29 01:22:24 PM
belowner: I had to dredge up my birth certificate for my passport. There wasn't a whole lot of information on it.

Why are you so concerned to see it then?
 
2009-07-29 01:23:19 PM
gadian: This is the perfect opportunity for someone in the HI vital statistics office who hates their job to present the certificate and collect several years worth of salary before they are fired. Hell, I'd do it and go on laughing to my next job. I'm surprised some schlub here in AK hasn't done that with Trig Palin's birth certificate.

Wouldn't violating State Laws and accessing the President's confidential information land you in a whole heap o' legal trouble?
 
2009-07-29 01:24:40 PM
SupremeLeader: c-tas: Dinki: Since nobody is going to meet this challenge, I'm going to have to accept it as proof positive that Obama is in fact a Kenyan.

actually you are being totally sensical. Back around Nov. I came across an article pertaining to this subject and found that ANYONE LIVING in Hawaii can obtain a "certificate of live birth" from Hawaii, American citizen or not. This is different from a birth certificate. I don't know if it's for the fact that there have been so many asian, etc crashing there and this was a way for the gov't to get a record of them. I don't know. But ask a native Hawaiian, they should concur.

Interesting.
Do you have a link to that article, perhaps?


Just have him forward the email where he heard it.
 
2009-07-29 01:24:46 PM
belowner: but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.

Why? search my post about IBM. It is a tactic that most smart people and businesses use.

You don't give in just to appease someone. That will only open the flood gates.
 
2009-07-29 01:24:49 PM
belowner: There's not much info on a birth certificate, but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.

What effort?
 
2009-07-29 01:25:10 PM
Every time I see the birth certificate issue, I've got to pump up WorldNetDaily, since they are on this issue *all the time*...

If you want to go to a legitimate news source that has been on the Obama birth certificate issue for a long time now and does so *consistently* - go to WorldNetDaily...

WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/

They even pay to have billboards put up around the United States asking "Where is the Birth Certificate?"... I don't know of any other news source anywhere that has paid to put up these kinds of billboards all over the country.

If you're interested in the Obama Birth Certificate issue, you'll find a lot of older articles from them on it, and they always have new articles coming up all the time. They are always hammering away at this issue and it's a new source that is well worth supporting by going and clicking on their links.

Keep up on the birth certificate issue on WorldNetDaily...

[... I love WorldNetDaily, as they're a fine news website... :-) ...]

------------------------------
/taken from a true American at Free Republic
 
2009-07-29 01:25:44 PM
netweavr: belowner: There's not much info on a birth certificate, but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.

What effort?


Apparently making simple dismissal requests in court costs millions of dollars (usually the freepers claim them to be tax payer dollars too)
 
2009-07-29 01:25:59 PM
belowner: I'm just wondering what's on that piece of paper they want to keep secret.

Go back and read the rest of my post.

There's not much info on a birth certificate, but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.

No, I'm pretty sure "not doing anything" doesn't take much effort.
 
2009-07-29 01:27:22 PM
belowner: I'm just wondering what's on that piece of paper they want to keep secret. There's not much info on a birth certificate, but they are going to great effort to keep it from being released.

What effort, exactly, have they gone to? The only way the original birth certificate (in electronic form) would be released is if Obama requested it, copied it, and released it. The only thing required to not have it released is not to do anything. If "not hopping on a plane to Hawaii at the request of a bunch of raving lunatics" is considered "great effort," then no wonder I'm so tired.
 
2009-07-29 01:27:26 PM
CaKeY: SupremeLeader: c-tas: Dinki: Since nobody is going to meet this challenge, I'm going to have to accept it as proof positive that Obama is in fact a Kenyan.

actually you are being totally sensical. Back around Nov. I came across an article pertaining to this subject and found that ANYONE LIVING in Hawaii can obtain a "certificate of live birth" from Hawaii, American citizen or not. This is different from a birth certificate. I don't know if it's for the fact that there have been so many asian, etc crashing there and this was a way for the gov't to get a record of them. I don't know. But ask a native Hawaiian, they should concur.

Interesting.
Do you have a link to that article, perhaps?

Just have him forward the email where he heard it.


But once you get said email, you better damn well forward it to twenty of your friends or your mother will get herpes and your cat will die of lung cancer.
 
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