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2009-07-21 11:17:34 PM
What you did there, subby. I see it.
 
2009-07-21 11:31:49 PM
Back in the day, the cop would toss you in the back of the car and drive you home.

He'd then make you knock on your own door and tell your parents what you did.

The parents would then administer an ass-whupping.

Waste of time and money, if you ask me, to go through the process of booking them and sticking them in lock-up.
 
2009-07-21 11:41:30 PM
Jesse's mother says the boys need to learn theft is wrong, but she says metal handcuffs were unnecessary.

They were necessary. But your snowflakes deserved something more than metal handcuffs to make them remember their stupidity.

She says the boys were given rough treatment by older boys in a lockup at the juvenile justice center, where they were held for hours.

Bew hew, that's terrible. If my violin could be one pixel, it would still be too big.
 
2009-07-22 01:57:08 AM
"I understand if they did something wrong they need to be punished; I think it was too extreme.

Maybe the cops should buy them ice cream and take them to a ball game.

What lesson did 7-year-old Jesse learn from his experience?
"That I would never want to do it again. Because I would get arrested again," said Jesse.


MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Considering the kids were picked up for stealing a fair amount of property maybe....Just maybe these "moms" are not the best judges of what is and isn't the best way to teach children right from wrong.
 
2009-07-22 02:01:52 AM
FTA: "At that time my son grabbed me, hugged me and cried, 'I don't want to go to jail, Mommy,' said Toya Goodson, Ayiza'a mother."

I'll take "things your kid should have thought about before he started stealing" for $500, Alex!
 
2009-07-22 02:07:24 AM
SchlingFocker: Back in the day, the cop would toss you in the back of the car and drive you home.

He'd then make you knock on your own door and tell your parents what you did.

The parents would then administer an ass-whupping.

Waste of time and money, if you ask me, to go through the process of booking them and sticking them in lock-up.



I never got into trouble with the police when I was a kid, but I still knew that they would be a lot nicer than Mom & Dad.
 
2009-07-22 02:07:25 AM
SchlingFocker: Back in the day, the cop would toss you in the back of the car and drive you home.

He'd then make you knock on your own door and tell your parents what you did.

The parents would then administer an ass-whupping.

Waste of time and money, if you ask me, to go through the process of booking them and sticking them in lock-up.


I must dissent, sir, if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings' -- sadly, it seems all too many would rather side with their tender snowflakes against the big, mean ol' police even if said snowflakes are dead-ass wrong.

\"...he might turn out to be a different boy indeed if you had administered a few 'fatal beatings' earlier"
 
2009-07-22 02:09:21 AM
/Omar Comin!
 
2009-07-22 02:11:02 AM
T-Luv: /Omar Comin!

Done, and done.
 
2009-07-22 02:16:09 AM
Hau Ruck: Jesse's mother says the boys need to learn theft is wrong, but she says metal handcuffs were unnecessary.

They were necessary. But your snowflakes deserved something more than metal handcuffs to make them remember their stupidity.

She says the boys were given rough treatment by older boys in a lockup at the juvenile justice center, where they were held for hours.

Bew hew, that's terrible. If my violin could be one pixel, it would still be too big.


A little bird tells me that I will hear this again.
 
2009-07-22 02:18:06 AM
What lesson did 7-year-old Jesse learn from his experience?
"That I would never want to do it again. Because I would get arrested again," said Jesse.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!


This!

The kids stole what amounts to at least a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff and they farking knew it.

No sympathy at all.
 
2009-07-22 02:31:49 AM
If this were my kid, I'd tell the cops to keep them and encourage the person/company they stole from to press full charges. See you in six months kid. Yeah, I'd teach my kids not to steal, but if they did it anyway, they'd get no sympathy or soft shoulder from mom.
 
2009-07-22 02:33:41 AM
I am glad that they told me the handcuffs were metal, up until that point I was only shocked, but metal? Now I am officially appalled.

\would be shocked if the police took my kids to jail
\\would, however, not be appalled
\\\wouldn't care what substance the handcuffs were made of
///used the 5 finger discount from time to time as a kid
//never got a ride in a paddy wagon
/slashieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
 
2009-07-22 02:34:42 AM
Ok I was expecting it to be black kids. Am I prejuduced against black kids or the police?
 
2009-07-22 02:38:25 AM
I'm willing to pass the hat to buy the cop a "Hero" tag. Or at the least a beer.
 
2009-07-22 02:49:57 AM
lajimi: What lesson did 7-year-old Jesse learn from his experience?
"That I would never want to do it again. Because I would get arrested again," said Jesse.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

As opposed to never wanting to do it again because it's wrong to steal.
 
2009-07-22 02:58:05 AM
Tony Baloney: if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings'

Child welfare started saying that's bad and taking kids away for it, now parents are afraid to ass-whup at all.

/social worker: just give them a time-out.
//me: he struggled away from my grasp because I'm afraid of holding his hand too tightly & leaving bruises and then ran at a moving car in the parking lot, when do you expect me to give the 4 year old a time out? After we get home?
///social worker: uh...just give him a time out.

dickheads
 
2009-07-22 03:00:57 AM
The parents need an ass whupping. Hello? Your kids stole a fair amount of stuff from someone else. The price of that is that the kids get arrested. If you didn't want your kids to go to jail, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM THAT STEALING IS WRONG?!?!
 
2009-07-22 03:01:18 AM
Shocked? Appalled? Really ladies?
I am shocked and appalled that your sons who are THAT YOUNG, were unsupervised enough to steal 3 items that large. Felony Larceny is what this was.
And these mothers have the nerve to biatch and complain about the police?
Hero Tags for the Po'Po in this case... An ounce of prevention...
 
2009-07-22 03:01:43 AM
Cosmic J: lajimi: What lesson did 7-year-old Jesse learn from his experience?
"That I would never want to do it again. Because I would get arrested again," said Jesse.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

As opposed to never wanting to do it again because it's wrong to steal.


At seven years old either one will work.
 
2009-07-22 03:01:57 AM
Shouldn't they be on the corner looking for 5-0, or holding the package since they are minors?
 
2009-07-22 03:04:26 AM
They should have tazered the little brats while they were at it. Come to think of it they should also tazer the mothers.
 
2009-07-22 03:04:28 AM
"It was an experience 7-year-old Jesse Flayhart will never forget."

In my head, I hear this is Don LaFontaine's voice.
 
2009-07-22 03:20:45 AM
If they think they got hassled in the juvie, it's a good sample of what's to come if they continue this behavior and end up in real live PMITA prison. They should have been locked up longer and the parents should have encouraged this sample of what life will bring when you act like a delinquent little moron.
 
2009-07-22 03:23:41 AM
Cosmic J: As opposed to never wanting to do it again because it's wrong to steal.

Hey, some people need a fear of punishment from an authority figure in order to keep them in line.

Now... what does that remind me of? hmmmm....
 
2009-07-22 03:31:16 AM
If I'd pulled some bullshiat like that when I was a kid, my parents would have let me do as much time as possible, then thanked the officers when they picked me up. Over the next few weeks, when people asked about what happened, they would have referred them to me.

tl;dr: I grew up with parents who parented
 
2009-07-22 03:31:45 AM
Cosmic J: lajimi: What lesson did 7-year-old Jesse learn from his experience?
"That I would never want to do it again. Because I would get arrested again," said Jesse.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

As opposed to never wanting to do it again because it's wrong to steal.



If his mom had taught him that it's wrong to steal, the police wouldn't have to teach him that stealing equals jail.
 
2009-07-22 03:34:33 AM
Goddammit, how did this country get away from the idea that a good, sound ass-kicking will permanently lodge in your adolescent brain, and prevent you from doing that stupid shiat again?

Where was that idea lost? Is there a specific moment in American history where the collective consciousness said "Nah, you aren't going to get an ass-whipping for that. Do what you want! Consequenses? Pffft. We'll protect you!"

Where was this hard-fought battle lost? In a moment? Over a decade? Who empowered these parents and kids in a cluster of "DON'T TOUCH ME!" and "NUH-UH...I DO WHAT I WANT!!"?

These parents ought to be applauding the police.
 
2009-07-22 03:36:16 AM
yesanded: n my head, I hear this is Don LaFontaine's voice.

ME TOO!! I swear.
 
2009-07-22 03:42:54 AM
I hate to say it, but when you label spankings as child abuse, then you're going to end up with seven-year-olds in juvie. Society has to pick one or the other.
 
Cog
2009-07-22 03:44:00 AM
If I'd ever gotten arrested a s akid I'd have begged to go to juvie jail for as long as possible. Whatever happened there would be nothing compared to the ass-whupping I'd have gotten at home.
 
2009-07-22 03:44:41 AM
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Disapproves.
 
2009-07-22 04:01:39 AM
lord-humungus: Ok I was expecting it to be black kids. Am I prejuduced against black kids or the police?

I read subby's headline and immediately knew the kids were white.

Only white mothers would get this worked up over something like this, where they probably support the what the cops did...Just not to their own children of course (because they're precious innocent little snowflakes).
 
2009-07-22 04:05:25 AM
lord-humungus: Ok I was expecting it to be black kids. Am I prejudiced against black kids or the police?

Neither. You've just read too much about Baltimore.
 
2009-07-22 04:16:35 AM
huh my parents didn't beat me and I was always more scared of them than the cops. I guess beatings and respect don't necessarily go hand in hand.
 
2009-07-22 05:27:30 AM
When the paddy wagon would stop my face would hit up against the metal

LMAO Poor lil moran doesn't know how to ride in the back seat of a car? Or is that why they swiped the go cart.. to ride in the closest thing to a car for the first time?

/good job for the cops for once!
 
2009-07-22 05:35:52 AM
BasqueBastard: Tony Baloney: if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings'

Child welfare started saying that's bad and taking kids away for it, now parents are afraid to ass-whup at all.

/social worker: just give them a time-out.
//me: he struggled away from my grasp because I'm afraid of holding his hand too tightly & leaving bruises and then ran at a moving car in the parking lot, when do you expect me to give the 4 year old a time out? After we get home?
///social worker: uh...just give him a time out.

dickheads



NEWSFLASH:

You dont need to beat or "whoop" your kids to teach them life lessons you ignorant redneck!

My Dad never laid a finger on me and I was still scared shiatless of him and his wrath.

Since we humans aren't living in the stoneage (or 1950's) anymore, we now know that hitting our kids actually changes their thought process and does something to their brain chemistry...

Can you guess what that is???

Yep, the more likely a parent is to discipline their child with violence, the more likely that child is to be violent/grow up to commit violent acts. There is so many studies on this that its not even worth my time linking to one of them, the jury is in and you can easily find the data.

So stop hitting your farking kids (im talking to you espeically white trash + redneck + African-American communities) so your farking kids dont grow up to assault me and my kids!

This does not make me a hippy liberal...

I actually think the punishment in this case was completely justified and I think that juveniles (and their moronic, rotten parents) aren't punished nearly as harshly as they should be 99% of the time.
 
2009-07-22 06:11:39 AM
Gamblar: BasqueBastard: Tony Baloney: if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings'

Child welfare started saying that's bad and taking kids away for it, now parents are afraid to ass-whup at all.

/social worker: just give them a time-out.
//me: he struggled away from my grasp because I'm afraid of holding his hand too tightly & leaving bruises and then ran at a moving car in the parking lot, when do you expect me to give the 4 year old a time out? After we get home?
///social worker: uh...just give him a time out.

dickheads


NEWSFLASH:

You dont need to beat or "whoop" your kids to teach them life lessons you ignorant redneck!

My Dad never laid a finger on me and I was still scared shiatless of him and his wrath.

Since we humans aren't living in the stoneage (or 1950's) anymore, we now know that hitting our kids actually changes their thought process and does something to their brain chemistry...

Can you guess what that is???

Yep, the more likely a parent is to discipline their child with violence, the more likely that child is to be violent/grow up to commit violent acts. There is so many studies on this that its not even worth my time linking to one of them, the jury is in and you can easily find the data.

So stop hitting your farking kids (im talking to you espeically white trash + redneck + African-American communities) so your farking kids dont grow up to assault me and my kids!

This does not make me a hippy liberal...

I actually think the punishment in this case was completely justified and I think that juveniles (and their moronic, rotten parents) aren't punished nearly as harshly as they should be 99% of the time.


You sound violent.
 
2009-07-22 06:44:39 AM
SchlingFocker: Back in the day, the cop would toss you in the back of the car and drive you home.

He'd then make you knock on your own door and tell your parents what you did.

The parents would then administer an ass-whupping.

Waste of time and money, if you ask me, to go through the process of booking them and sticking them in lock-up.


This

Parenting is a lost art
 
2009-07-22 07:02:31 AM
Gamblar: BasqueBastard: Tony Baloney: if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings'

Child welfare started saying that's bad and taking kids away for it, now parents are afraid to ass-whup at all.

/social worker: just give them a time-out.
//me: he struggled away from my grasp because I'm afraid of holding his hand too tightly & leaving bruises and then ran at a moving car in the parking lot, when do you expect me to give the 4 year old a time out? After we get home?
///social worker: uh...just give him a time out.

dickheads


NEWSFLASH:

You dont need to beat or "whoop" your kids to teach them life lessons you ignorant redneck!

My Dad never laid a finger on me and I was still scared shiatless of him and his wrath.

Since we humans aren't living in the stoneage (or 1950's) anymore, we now know that hitting our kids actually changes their thought process and does something to their brain chemistry...

Can you guess what that is???

Yep, the more likely a parent is to discipline their child with violence, the more likely that child is to be violent/grow up to commit violent acts. There is so many studies on this that its not even worth my time linking to one of them, the jury is in and you can easily find the data.

So stop hitting your farking kids (im talking to you espeically white trash + redneck + African-American communities) so your farking kids dont grow up to assault me and my kids!

This does not make me a hippy liberal...

I actually think the punishment in this case was completely justified and I think that juveniles (and their moronic, rotten parents) aren't punished nearly as harshly as they should be 99% of the time.


All this nonsense needs a citation. Hmm let me see had my arse kicked plenty for doing stupid shiat as a kid. Never been arrested never had anything more than a speeding ticket. I think your "facts" are a made up falicy of some soccer mom sitting in some office somewhere.
 
2009-07-22 07:04:09 AM
yesanded: "It was an experience 7-year-old Jesse Flayhart will never forget."

In my head, I hear this is Don LaFontaine's voice.


I honestly heard it in the voice of the "Dukes of Hazard" narrator guy. "Flayhart" just screamed it.
 
2009-07-22 07:21:08 AM
surrenderyoursushi: If they think they got hassled in the juvie, it's a good sample of what's to come if they continue this behavior and end up in real live PMITA prison. They should have been locked up longer and the parents should have encouraged this sample of what life will bring when you act like a delinquent little moron.

This. There were no salads tossed...this time.

Little bastards needed the harsh to their little criminal buzzes, and the mommies of these precious little snowflakes should basically STFU and thank God (or Jeff Gordon or Jay-Z, or whatever) that they didn't wind up with charges pressed against them.
 
2009-07-22 07:29:58 AM
Gamblar: BasqueBastard: Tony Baloney: if only parents could be trusted to administer said 'whuppings'

Child welfare started saying that's bad and taking kids away for it, now parents are afraid to ass-whup at all.

/social worker: just give them a time-out.
//me: he struggled away from my grasp because I'm afraid of holding his hand too tightly & leaving bruises and then ran at a moving car in the parking lot, when do you expect me to give the 4 year old a time out? After we get home?
///social worker: uh...just give him a time out.

dickheads


NEWSFLASH:

You dont need to beat or "whoop" your kids to teach them life lessons you ignorant redneck!

My Dad never laid a finger on me and I was still scared shiatless of him and his wrath.

Since we humans aren't living in the stoneage (or 1950's) anymore, we now know that hitting our kids actually changes their thought process and does something to their brain chemistry...

Can you guess what that is???

Yep, the more likely a parent is to discipline their child with violence, the more likely that child is to be violent/grow up to commit violent acts. There is so many studies on this that its not even worth my time linking to one of them, the jury is in and you can easily find the data.

So stop hitting your farking kids (im talking to you espeically white trash + redneck + African-American communities) so your farking kids dont grow up to assault me and my kids!

This does not make me a hippy liberal...

I actually think the punishment in this case was completely justified and I think that juveniles (and their moronic, rotten parents) aren't punished nearly as harshly as they should be 99% of the time.


I don't know if I'm feeding a troll, but whatever...

If "beatings" (and I use quotations because spankings, et al are a FAR cry from beatings) necessarily perpetuate cycles of violence, shouldn't they still be considered acceptable? Or was there some sort of divine intervention that suddenly allowed all of society to break the cycle?

Also, reread the post that you replied to. It had nothing to do with the poster hitting a kid, but rather being afraid to hold his/her kid too tightly because that might be seen as abuse, and the result put the kid's life in danger.

/Hates people who beat their kids, there's no excuse.
//Understands that sometimes minor physical discipline is necessary.
 
2009-07-22 07:52:55 AM
FTFA: "'I think if they put them in a police car to the Northern District and had a nice scary talk with them,' said Jaime Greeley."

Yeah, because that nice, scary talk has obviously worked so well in the past.
 
2009-07-22 07:53:37 AM
I never got into trouble with the police when I was a kid, but I still knew that they would be a lot nicer than Mom & Dad.

This.
 
2009-07-22 07:57:29 AM
Gamblar:

Yep, the more likely a parent is to discipline their child with violence, the more likely that child is to be violent/grow up to commit violent acts. There is so many studies on this that its not even worth my time linking to one of them, the jury is in and you can easily find the data.

So stop hitting your farking kids (im talking to you espeically white trash + redneck + African-American communities) so your farking kids dont grow up to assault me and my kids!

This does not make me a hippy liberal...

I actually think the punishment in this case was completely justified and I think that juveniles (and their moronic, rotten parents) aren't punished nearly as harshly as they should be 99% of the time.



I don't agree with everything you said but I have never spanked or physically punished my son, yet he does what I ask him to do and he is a good kid.

Some kids are naturally out of control, I can understand why parents resort to other kinds of discipline.

But usually, it's a sign that you have lost control of the situation, that you are either not aware of what your kid is doing and thinking because you don't spend enough time with them, or you are tolerating behaviors that lead to deeper issues.

most kids can be easily manipulated into understanding right from wrong, you can punish them in a variety of non-physical ways. But only if you have a strong relationship with the child to begin with. If you find yourself wanting to spank a lot you either need to think about what you are doing wrong before assuming that it's just necessary or your kid is messed up.

As for TFA, these parents should be thanking the cops for teaching their kids a lesson on the taxpayers' dime. I sure as hell would be if my son were caught stealing.
 
2009-07-22 08:02:58 AM
Norad: Goddammit, how did this country get away from the idea that a good, sound ass-kicking will permanently lodge in your adolescent brain, and prevent you from doing that stupid shiat again?

Where was that idea lost? Is there a specific moment in American history where the collective consciousness said "Nah, you aren't going to get an ass-whipping for that. Do what you want! Consequenses? Pffft. We'll protect you!"


We've got the "me generation" of the 1960's to thank for that. The Baby Boomers. The first generation to give a big middle finger to "The Man" and who consequently raised shiatty undisciplined kids prone to stealing.
 
2009-07-22 08:16:24 AM
I would have waited until 8:00AM the next day to pick them up. Then I would have made my son pay back the saturday over-time pay that I lost while I was getting his butt out of the slam.
As far as beating your kids, that's a no-no... however spanking the bottom barehanded is not beating.

Now I wonder about the third family having no comment. Are they ok with how the cops handled it or are they too embarrassed to come out of the house.
 
2009-07-22 08:16:56 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say those plastic hand binders would have been more appropriate for the situation. I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that most of you never had your ass kicked by a parent. Spanked? Maybe. Ass kicked? Probably not.
 
2009-07-22 08:30:30 AM
This sums the article up. Applaud the officers, tell the biatches to STFU and eat my poop.

/Too early.
 
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