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2009-07-20 11:20:52 PM  
That's funny, I thought Condoleezza Rice was the pre-eminent Black scholar in America, if by "pre-eminent" you mean famous.
/And would know not to get in a screaming match with police! I mean, seriously, how smart do you have to be? I'm not a professor, but even I know that one answers calmly, accurately, and politely when cops ask you a question.
//This guy is a schmuck, IMO.
///Condi in 2012!
 
2009-07-20 11:21:10 PM  
OgreMagi 2009-07-20 09:20:45 PM
If I break into my own home and the police show up and demand I prove I have a right to be there, I will damn well show my ID and thank them for doing a good job protecting my property. I certainly won't act like a complete douche nozzle.

What if after doing all that and you have succesfully entered your house, the cops are still insistent on you proving who you are? and they do it in a not so polite way?

I think the problem with this incident is not so much the mechanics of how things went but rather the tones and choice words that were probably exchange.
 
2009-07-20 11:21:29 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Unless there are witnesses, we'll never really know what happened. It's just a case of he-said/he-said. Until then, this is just a Rorschach test for your views on race and the police.


The police report has a certain verisimilitude. But supposedly there were a bunch of people on the sidewalk hearing Gates act all uppity butthurt, so we'll see.
 
2009-07-20 11:22:15 PM  
Sutpen's Hundred - I get emails about once a week from campus police with a crime alert about somebody getting mugged or assaulted on or around campus; rarely is the description anything beyond 'black male' and maybe, maybe a height. Occasionally a description of dress

Personal favorite was when the only description of the suspect was 'black male wearing a gray sweatshirt' but the victim was able to describe the handgun down to the last detail.



What's to describe about your average black guy?

Seriously... I walked up on a guy breaking into my car one night, and when I described him to the cops it was "black guy, mid-20's, about 6'3', maybe 220lb's, baseball cap, dark blue polo shirt, and jeans."

If he'd had blonde hair I'd have told them that, but he didn't.
 
2009-07-20 11:22:24 PM  

GentlemanJ: ///Condi in 2012!


Jindal/Condi 2012 with a guarantee that Palin will be Secretary of State. The amount of suckage on that ticket would end the world.
 
2009-07-20 11:22:50 PM  
Fon_Win:

That's not rascist.

Right. It's wasist.
 
2009-07-20 11:23:09 PM  

technicolor-misfit: Void_Beavis - technicolor-misfit: Anybody ever see the COPS episode where they were responding to a breaking and entering call, got to the house and found a dude inside, and he claimed it was his house but he'd misplaced his keys, and they looked at the mail on the kitchen table and said "how come all the mail is addressed to a woman with a different last name from you?" and he said it was his cousin's house, but he was living there with her, and they said "okay, as soon as we talk to your cousin, we'll be on our way" and when they got in touch with the homeowner, she told them she had never heard of him?

What a pack of racist pricks those guys were.


Oh wow. So you judge police action based on what you see on COPS? Wow. You are aware that the officers being filmed are completely aware that they are on camera right?

Either this or you're a troll.

The point had nothing to do with the behavior of the cops on the show. They could have been asses, they could have been choirboys. It's moot.

The point was they arrived at a house that was the subject of a breaking and entering call, found a black man inside, and did not leave until they'd verified that he was the legal occupant of the home... which he wasn't.

This what everyone here is having a shiat-fit about and calling the cop racist about... for not taking the Prof's word for it when he claimed it was his house.

The point was had those cops done what everyone in this thread is saying they should have done, they would have driven off and left a burglar in some lady's house.

My calling them "a pack of racist pricks" was sarcasm.

If this guy had a legit complaint, he'd have told his side of the story... but he hasn't said squat. Only his lawyer has spoken, and he hasn't said anything either. He's just made vague accusations.

The cop has a highly-detailed blow-by-blow report with an independent corroborating witness AND several police from two separate agencies as witnesses as well.


After they saw his ID they had no business arresting him on his own property without a warrant.

And the issue here was even after he showed his ID he was still being questioned. I'd be farking pissed off too if some cop was acting intimidating and continued questioning me after it was verified that it was my own home.

Laws are legal.
 
2009-07-20 11:23:38 PM  

girl6: vudukungfu:

You sound fat.
Or hot.
/can't make up my mind.

5'5", 135lbs. I've had to look in the mirror to see my feet since I was 13. My DD's block the view.

/can't make up my mind if I'll be ignoring you at Dragon Con.


It's a man, baby.
/There are no hot girls on the internet, just pictures of them
 
2009-07-20 11:25:36 PM  

GentlemanJ:
///Condi in 2012!


Chisholm, in '69.
 
2009-07-20 11:26:49 PM  

tonesskin: GentlemanJ: ///Condi in 2012!

Jindal/Condi 2012 with a guarantee that Palin will be Secretary of State. The amount of suckage on that ticket would end the world.


I never mentioned Jindal or Palin. Frankly, I don't know who I would want as VP--but I definitely want Condi leading the ticket.
/By 2011, you'll be praying that someone will take power away from the Democrats.
 
2009-07-20 11:27:24 PM  
I hate racism. That said, I wish Gates would have tired to understand the situation and respond accordingly, his actions just perpetuate the unfortunate stereotype about black men not being able to deal with police on a personal basis without getting angry. Imagine what might have happened if Prof. Gates would have answered the door and said he lived there, produced verifying identification, oh, and thanked the officers for investigating a reported break-in at his residence. We wouldn't have heard about it on Fark, that's for sure.

/C'mon, Henry, it's time to become a person instead of a 'black man' ,no lie.
 
2009-07-20 11:27:26 PM  
When I was a teen, police pulled up to investigate me trying to break into my house after I'd lost my keys. If I hadn't been able to produce ID that proved I lived there, I'd have gone to jail, too.
 
2009-07-20 11:27:59 PM  
I was in my drive way finishing my cigarette one night when a cop with no lights on blocked me in. I was house sitting for the summer and didn't have the address on my license. A few more cars came up and they all kept asking me to "tell the truth" as to where I live. I kept answering the same questions over and over.

After I had enough of this I reached over and pushed the garage door opener button. Upon seeing that they said "Have a nice evening" and left.

Still didn't like being practically detained in my driveway for over 30 minutes.
 
2009-07-20 11:28:34 PM  
Cop made big mistake and will regret this. If he doesn't lose his job this time, the next time he gets involved in any problem with a minority his goose is cooked.
 
2009-07-20 11:28:36 PM  
Fon_Win:

You can't be serious?


No, I can't be serious. Except for that time when the plane was about to crash. They were all counting on me. I was surely serious then.

/and don't call me Shirley.
 
2009-07-20 11:29:16 PM  

girl6: So, today I'm waiting


You are going to have to put in a lot more work than that to make this alt convincing.

1/10
 
2009-07-20 11:29:33 PM  
mediablitz 2009-07-20 09:28:24 PM
"He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he 'exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior.' He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26. Police refused to comment on the arrest."

He wasn't arrested for breaking into his own house. He was arrested for being an ass. He wouldn't come out at first, wouldn't show identification, then made it a black thing. If I see two people trying to bust a door down, I'm going to call the cops too. This guy had a chip on his shoulder as big as the damn door he broke.


Not to play devil's advocate but how do you know it wasn't the cop who was an ass first?

Not sure about you but is it that much of a stretch of the imagination that cops typically are the assholes first and when the avg citizen reacts to it, they are charged with disordely conduct, assaulting an officer etc etc.. and then people like you ALWAYS gives the cop the benefit of doubt! no wonder so many cops walk around with an air of impunity!

If the cop had tasered this guy or beat him to a pulp this would most defintiely be an anti cop thread.
 
2009-07-20 11:30:10 PM  

MetaCarpal: When I was a teen, police pulled up to investigate me trying to break into my house after I'd lost my keys. If I hadn't been able to produce ID that proved I lived there, I'd have gone to jail, too.


Sounds like somebody didn't RTFA
 
2009-07-20 11:30:25 PM  

GentlemanJ: -but I definitely want Condi leading the ticket.


Me too! I love comedy.
 
2009-07-20 11:30:32 PM  

girl6: So, today I'm waiting to get into garage parking and the guy in front of me sticks his head out his car window and yells, "This is the cardholder entrance. You need a card to get in." I'm thinking he's at the wrong entrance. "You need me to back up?" I yell, even though there's plenty of room for him to back out. I see him heave a sigh. He gets out of his car, walks back to my car and proceeds to explain patiently to me that the daily parking is on the other side and that I need to go there. He's all, "It's $.75 a minute so(shrugs apologetically) you may want to park somewhere else."

I'm all, "Fark you, you pink polo popped collar needle dick Dockers-wearing teabagging fratchoade! I have a card." Just kidding. I thanked him rolled up my window and entered behind him using my card.

Then, while I'm waiting in line to get coffee, a woman comes out of the bathroom and says to me, "You need to put toilet paper in there." Not , "They need to put toilet paper in there."

I'm all, "Fark you, you pinched-faced wrinkled at 30 bleached blond puking up every meal fake ass skank ho!" Just kidding. I said, "I don't work here," as I adjusted the strap on my briefcase. She says, "Oh."

That was just the first hour of the day. Today. I won't even talk about what happens when I get on an elevator. Or walk into a store. Or visit the doctor. Or go to the library. Or walk down the street. And I'm intelligent, clean, mainstream, articulate and good looking. I'm also very obviously a woman. In Oakland, CA. I can't imagine what a black man has to deal with every day at Harvard.

So, yeah. Dr. Gates was probably not in a good mood by the end of the day. He just wanted to get home, order take out, smoke a bowl and chill. But no. He's seriously lucky he didn't get shot.

The cop had no legal reason to remain once he verified identification. But he had to put that uppity colored man in his place and that place is jail--once he realized he couldn't shoot him. In his own home. After he showed ID. Like this was Stalinist Russia or something.


You sound fat. And Goth.
 
2009-07-20 11:33:25 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Not to play devil's advocate but how do you know it wasn't the cop who was an ass first?


If you read several of the stories on this, it was the prof who started out by refusing to come out, refusing to supply ID, etc.

He was in full ass mode from the beginning. The cops could have handled it better, but if I BREAK INTO MY HOUSE, I would expect to have to talk to the cops if a neighbor calls it in. He went out of his way to make the whole thing confrontational from the get go.

Could the cops had less of a chip on their shoulder? Sure. Just not may do. This was more a class thing than a racism thing to me (other than the prof pretending he wasn't acting like a privileged dick)
 
2009-07-20 11:33:45 PM  
You know, I've read a lot of bad cop stories on Fark and a significant number of them contain the "cop gives the miscreant the break and threatens the good guy (story narrator) because the miscreant has connections" line.

Example: Wasn't there a Farker who claimed his daughter's arm was broken in two places like a W after a woman ran her over, and the first cop who showed up knew the woman? The cop declared it was all the girl's fault. He threatened to beat the shiat out of the Farker for not listening attentively while his daughter was being loaded in the ambulance.

Gates is pretty famous and in some towns the white equivalent of a local famous person of import would have been recognized and given a break straight away, right or wrong.

Somehow neither his neighbor nor the cops recognized him in this situation.

Now it was very unwise of him to throw a temper tantrum in front of cops, but to pretend there isn't some racial bias in this is also pretty stupid.
 
2009-07-20 11:34:45 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: and then people like you ALWAYS gives the cop the benefit of doubt!


Totally missed this. Shut up, you cock. I go after cops all the time. I grew up around cops. I know what dicks they can be.

Nice job assuming, ass.
 
2009-07-20 11:36:04 PM  
mediablitz:

You are going to have to put in a lot more work than that to make this alt convincing.

1/10


You don't believe me 'cos I'm articulate. Are you a cop?

www dot spockjones dot blogspot dot com
 
2009-07-20 11:36:36 PM  

Egalitarian: Now it was very unwise of him to throw a temper tantrum in front of cops, but to pretend there isn't some racial bias in this is also pretty stupid.


This is true. If it weren't a white cop we'd never hear anything about it.
 
2009-07-20 11:37:29 PM  

chu2dogg: Whatever will us po' oppressed white males do?! If only we got a fair shake here in Amerikkka!

And do you not think white people get shiat from cops as well?


Well I'm sure interracial couples and gay whites get shiat from cops
 
2009-07-20 11:38:14 PM  
FYI EVERYBODY - THE GUY WILL BE ON CNN WED NIGHT DISCUSSING THIS.
 
2009-07-20 11:38:28 PM  

girl6: You don't believe me 'cos I'm articulate


I don't know how long I can keep this up.
 
2009-07-20 11:38:29 PM  

what_now: locks himself out


FTFA:

Ogletree said Gates had returned from a trip to China on Thursday with a driver, when he found his front door jammed. He went through the back door into the home - which he leases from Harvard - shut off an alarm and worked with the driver to get the door open. The driver left, and Gates was on the phone with the property's management company when police first arrived.
 
2009-07-20 11:42:20 PM  

girl6: You don't believe me 'cos I'm articulate. Are you a cop?

www dot spockjones dot blogspot dot com


so are you wishing and hoping for gender reassignment surgery?

I don't believe you because you are amazingly simplistic in your sad attempt to alt. You need to try a LOT harder to be convincing.
 
2009-07-20 11:43:29 PM  

GentlemanJ: That's funny, I thought Condoleezza Rice was the pre-eminent Black scholar in America, if by "pre-eminent" you mean famous.
/And would know not to get in a screaming match with police! I mean, seriously, how smart do you have to be? I'm not a professor, but even I know that one answers calmly, accurately, and politely when cops ask you a question.
//This guy is a schmuck, IMO.
///Condi in 2012!


Condoleeza was a Russian scholar.

This guy has been lecturing on African american studies for decades.

Why can't you idgits get that?

Condi was so awesome as an NSA adviser who couldn't be in the same room as Rumsfeld without tearing up. Who let a huge attack happen after being on the job for 9.5 months. Hell Obama has only had this economy for 7 months and you people think it's his fault.

As far as her record as Secretary of State goes, well that's a mixed one. I don't think anyone could have done well under Bush but the fact that she had to threaten to "draft" State Department employees to serve in Iraq speaks volumes about her leadership skills.


//Spell checker told me to capitalize African but not American.
//Iz Racist?
 
2009-07-20 11:44:19 PM  

mediablitz: girl6: You don't believe me 'cos I'm articulate. Are you a cop?

www dot spockjones dot blogspot dot com

so are you wishing and hoping for gender reassignment surgery?

I don't believe you because you are amazingly simplistic in your sad attempt to alt. You need to try a LOT harder to be convincing.


I'm sorry.

This guy is going to be on CNN whining about this. Poor guy, I hope all the money he makes from this HORRIBLE incident is enough to satisfy him.
 
2009-07-20 11:45:47 PM  
Rigban:

You sound fat. And Goth.

You sound malodorous. And fat. Like your mom and your girlfriend.
 
2009-07-20 11:46:08 PM  
SwingingJohnson - After they saw his ID they had no business arresting him on his own property without a warrant.


If he was being disorderly, sure they did.

I'm no badge-licker, but I'm glad people get arrested for acting like pricks to cops. (unless the cops start it) You don't get to insult and berate people just because you're irritated. Especially when they're simply doing a job they have to do.


And the issue here was even after he showed his ID he was still being questioned. I'd be farking pissed off too if some cop was acting intimidating and continued questioning me after it was verified that it was my own home.


"Acting intimidating?" Show me that source... I can't even find were Gates' lawyer says that, and Gates isn't saying anything.

Where does it say the cop was belligerent? The only one quoted in the story as being belligerent was Bates. "Why because I'm a black man in America?"

Even if the cop did "continue questioning" him, when you refuse to comply with a reasonable, obvious, and easily satisfiable request, it arouses suspicion. That calls for further questioning.

Have you even read the police report? The police report sounds flat, even-handed, and completely believable... The tone is one of complete "WTF?" He doesn't even make Gates out to be an asshole... It's more like "I don't know why, but dude just kept going off" If he made it up, he needs to be a novelist instead of a cop, because he has an absolute gift.

Bates and his lawyer, on the other hand are being all cute and vague, and drama llama-ish "we think the incident speaks for itself."

That tells me everything I need to know about who's been driving this situation into meltdown from the beginning.

And again... the neighbor witnessed the whole thing.
 
2009-07-20 11:48:07 PM  

girl6: mediablitz:

You are going to have to put in a lot more work than that to make this alt convincing.

1/10

You don't believe me 'cos I'm articulate. Are you a cop?

www dot spockjones dot blogspot dot com


Oh yeah? Well, http://gentlemanj dot livejournal dot com.
/Two can play that game!
//I was born in Oakland, live 20 miles away.
 
2009-07-20 11:54:37 PM  
Egalitarian - You know, I've read a lot of bad cop stories on Fark and a significant number of them contain the "cop gives the miscreant the break and threatens the good guy (story narrator) because the miscreant has connections" line.

Example: Wasn't there a Farker who claimed his daughter's arm was broken in two places like a W after a woman ran her over, and the first cop who showed up knew the woman? The cop declared it was all the girl's fault. He threatened to beat the shiat out of the Farker for not listening attentively while his daughter was being loaded in the ambulance.

Gates is pretty famous and in some towns the white equivalent of a local famous person of import would have been recognized and given a break straight away, right or wrong.

Somehow neither his neighbor nor the cops recognized him in this situation.

Now it was very unwise of him to throw a temper tantrum in front of cops, but to pretend there isn't some racial bias in this is also pretty stupid.


You gotta be kidding me... Now it's racist because he didn't get an "I'm a bigshot" foot rub?

Being notable in the world of academe is not the same thing as being famous. Do you really think anyone in Boston would recognize even one quarter of Harvard's faculty? Do you live in a college town? How many professsors do you know and recognize on sight? (that you haven't had a class with)
 
2009-07-20 11:54:44 PM  
He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior."

Anybody in an assumed position of authority who says something like that needs to have their neck broken three times so that the rest of us can continue on in life with .06% less stupid. Sounds ex-farking-actly like the usual mid-to-late-90's authoritarian language-vomit I was raised to shake my fist at.
 
2009-07-20 11:57:38 PM  

technicolor-misfit: How many professsors do you know and recognize on sight? (that you haven't had a class with)


I don't know some of the people in my own department (or give a shiat about them), much less the university. Except people I collaborate with.
 
2009-07-21 12:00:38 AM  
technicolor-misfit

You gotta be kidding me... Now it's racist because he didn't get an "I'm a bigshot" foot rub?

Being notable in the world of academe is not the same thing as being famous. Do you really think anyone in Boston would recognize even one quarter of Harvard's faculty? Do you live in a college town? How many professsors do you know and recognize on sight? (that you haven't had a class with)


I wish cops treated 100% of the population on a level playing field but they quite clearly don't. That's all I'm saying. And the fact is in 2009 black people often get the raw deal from cops, where the equivalent white person might get off with just a friendly warning, especially if they are a known personality.

I have seen Gates on PBS, and quoted in news and magazine stories (with accompanying pics of Gates). If lived in his neighborhood I think I'd figure out pretty quickly who he is. I hope the neighbor lady at least apologizes to him.

But it does sound like he was being a jackass, this is one of those situations where nobody was a winner.
 
2009-07-21 12:01:16 AM  
*fist bumps gentlemanj*

Not an Oaktown original but been here 10yrs and digging the scene with a gangsta lean On Wood st. in the Lower Bottoms.

I know your blog, I think. A link from Sinclair Klugarsh, maybe? Cool.
 
2009-07-21 12:01:39 AM  
Majin_Buu - He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior."

Anybody in an assumed position of authority who says something like that needs to have their neck broken three times so that the rest of us can continue on in life with .06% less stupid. Sounds ex-farking-actly like the usual mid-to-late-90's authoritarian language-vomit I was raised to shake my fist at.



Don't be a dumbass, it's the language of the law, probably word for word from the criminal code. Cops write that way to explain the arrest and make the charges stick. "This is the law he broke, and this is how he broke it... exactly like it says in the book that defines its illegality."

And it's really easy to avoid... Don't yell at cops. Anybody over the age of five shouldn't have to be told not to yell at someone else, but it's especially stupid when the recipient pf your verbal abuse has the power to arrest you.

I have little sympathy with tantrum-throwers. If you're an adult and haven't learned to express yourself without screaming, I'm all for you getting a little time-out in which to think about more effective communication techniques.
 
2009-07-21 12:02:17 AM  
Simply shocking that a man who researches/teaches/makes-a-pretty-penny-on race-related topics would see racism under every stone.

That said, fark the police.

/family of cops
//don't trust them, either
 
2009-07-21 12:03:23 AM  
He's been on Colbert report
 
2009-07-21 12:04:17 AM  

girl6: Rigban:

You sound fat. And Goth.

You sound malodorous. And fat. Like your mom and your girlfriend.


Ouch!
 
2009-07-21 12:04:20 AM  

girl6: So, today I'm waiting to get into garage parking and the guy in front of me sticks his head out his car window and yells, "This is the cardholder entrance. You need a card to get in." I'm thinking he's at the wrong entrance. "You need me to back up?" I yell, even though there's plenty of room for him to back out. I see him heave a sigh. He gets out of his car, walks back to my car and proceeds to explain patiently to me that the daily parking is on the other side and that I need to go there. He's all, "It's $.75 a minute so(shrugs apologetically) you may want to park somewhere else."

I'm all, "Fark you, you pink polo popped collar needle dick Dockers-wearing teabagging fratchoade! I have a card." Just kidding. I thanked him rolled up my window and entered behind him using my card.

Then, while I'm waiting in line to get coffee, a woman comes out of the bathroom and says to me, "You need to put toilet paper in there." Not , "They need to put toilet paper in there."

I'm all, "Fark you, you pinched-faced wrinkled at 30 bleached blond puking up every meal fake ass skank ho!" Just kidding. I said, "I don't work here," as I adjusted the strap on my briefcase. She says, "Oh."

That was just the first hour of the day. Today. I won't even talk about what happens when I get on an elevator. Or walk into a store. Or visit the doctor. Or go to the library. Or walk down the street. And I'm intelligent, clean, mainstream, articulate and good looking. I'm also very obviously a woman. In Oakland, CA. I can't imagine what a black man has to deal with every day at Harvard.

So, yeah. Dr. Gates was probably not in a good mood by the end of the day. He just wanted to get home, order take out, smoke a bowl and chill. But no. He's seriously lucky he didn't get shot.

The cop had no legal reason to remain once he verified identification. But he had to put that uppity colored man in his place and that place is jail--once he realized he couldn't shoot him. In his own home. After he showed ID. Like this was Stalinist Russia or something.


I like those words.

Bay Area solidarity.

Check out the Stern Grove this weekend, by the way. Lyrics Born Review and Lateef the Truth Seeker.
 
2009-07-21 12:09:16 AM  

girl6: *fist bumps gentlemanj*

Not an Oaktown original but been here 10yrs and digging the scene with a gangsta lean On Wood st. in the Lower Bottoms.

I know your blog, I think. A link from Sinclair Klugarsh, maybe? Cool.

Wow, and I was at Wood and 7th this afternoon. It's close to where I work.
/DJ for 10 years
//Keep reading my blog--I try to make it intelligent and entertaining.
 
2009-07-21 12:10:43 AM  

technicolor-misfit: SwingingJohnson - After they saw his ID they had no business arresting him on his own property without a warrant.


If he was being disorderly, sure they did.

I'm no badge-licker, but I'm glad people get arrested for acting like pricks to cops. (unless the cops start it) You don't get to insult and berate people just because you're irritated. Especially when they're simply doing a job they have to do.



And the issue here was even after he showed his ID he was still being questioned. I'd be farking pissed off too if some cop was acting intimidating and continued questioning me after it was verified that it was my own home.


"Acting intimidating?" Show me that source... I can't even find were Gates' lawyer says that, and Gates isn't saying anything.

Where does it say the cop was belligerent? The only one quoted in the story as being belligerent was Bates. "Why because I'm a black man in America?"

Even if the cop did "continue questioning" him, when you refuse to comply with a reasonable, obvious, and easily satisfiable request, it arouses suspicion. That calls for further questioning.

Have you even read the police report? The police report sounds flat, even-handed, and completely believable... The tone is one of complete "WTF?" He doesn't even make Gates out to be an asshole... It's more like "I don't know why, but dude just kept going off" If he made it up, he needs to be a novelist instead of a cop, because he has an absolute gift.



Yeah, lot's of police have that special gift when writing police reports.

Here, FTA: Ogletree said Gates gave the officer his driver's license and Harvard identification after being asked to prove he was a Harvard professor and lived at the home, but became upset when the officer continued to question him.

"He was shocked to find himself being questioned and shocked that the conversation continued after he showed his identification," Ogletree said.


After the ID was confirmed "Thank you sir, have a nice day" should have been the cop's response. Obviously it's a stressful situation for anyone to be treated like a criminal in their own home.

Anyway, I'll be interested to see him on CNN on Wed. I think Anderson Cooper is interviewing him.
 
2009-07-21 12:13:20 AM  

technicolor-misfit: Majin_Buu - He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior."

Anybody in an assumed position of authority who says something like that needs to have their neck broken three times so that the rest of us can continue on in life with .06% less stupid. Sounds ex-farking-actly like the usual mid-to-late-90's authoritarian language-vomit I was raised to shake my fist at.

Don't be a dumbass, it's the language of the law, probably word for word from the criminal code. Cops write that way to explain the arrest and make the charges stick. "This is the law he broke, and this is how he broke it... exactly like it says in the book that defines its illegality."

And it's really easy to avoid... Don't yell at cops. Anybody over the age of five shouldn't have to be told not to yell at someone else, but it's especially stupid when the recipient pf your verbal abuse has the power to arrest you.

I have little sympathy with tantrum-throwers. If you're an adult and haven't learned to express yourself without screaming, I'm all for you getting a little time-out in which to think about more effective communication techniques.


And that's being a dumbass... how? Since they could have just made in their über-official statement "He was throwing a temper-tantrum".

I mean, o'rlyiously, they could have just said it and tried to sound all "thou shalt not".

'Sides, I'm never a dumbass on Fark. Sryslyz. Only every morning when I wake up and go to work.

And besides that, the cops there probably just arrested him on suspicion of witchcraft because he likely used a word with more than six syllables. Town cops are invariably dumb hicks after all. Prove me wrong on that and maybe I'll start to actually read your language vomit.
 
2009-07-21 12:18:29 AM  

technicolor-misfit: Even if the cop did "continue questioning" him, when you refuse to comply with a reasonable, obvious, and easily satisfiable request, it arouses suspicion. That calls for further questioning.


This sounds a tad "badge licker"ish.

Pretty sure you aren't required to open the door. Police can get warrants if they have to.

Pretty sure you arent' required to do anything other than Identify yourself. Which he did.

Maybe he was all "do you know who I am?" but since when did cops get so touchy? Surely they hear worse everday than whatever this effete ivy league snob throws out there.

He ID'd himself. Go Away Copper!!
 
2009-07-21 12:18:41 AM  
The real problem was the name GATES in Boston.

Cop must've been a Linux fan.
 
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