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2009-07-20 01:19:19 PM
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the echo of Puffy shiatting all over Kashmir.

i55.photobucket.com
 
2009-07-20 01:20:11 PM
jj325: So---Page says no to Guitar Hero/Rock Band and the hate comes out. If this article had been exactly the opposite, Led Zep Rock Band game coming, the hate would have been all about Zep being in it for the money, how they ripped all of their songs off of other people, etc.

And subby, that was 1 car commercial several years ago

/Led Zep fan
//Not ashamed at all


Hell no, I'd totally buy the Led Zep Guitar Hero edition! I have the Metallica one, and I almost never play any of the others now. What more could I want? I get to fake-play the guitar (or drums), and I get to listen to music I love, all at the same time! It's win-win.
 
2009-07-20 01:21:26 PM
Clan Xpy: Keywork99: If I was interested in learning a real guitar, I'd buy a real guitar.

So you are only interested in learning to play a fake guitar?


I'm interested in playing a video game.
 
2009-07-20 01:24:54 PM
AnEvilGuest: This is business speak for write a bigger check.
If Jimmy was starving they could afford his catalog, he isn't.


This.

It has nothing to do with learning to play an instrument or anything along those lines. It's about money. If the Beatles can get their own version of Rock Band, the amount of money Zep is asking for must be astronomical. And while it would be fun, I don't see the Zep catalog being full of songs that could be successfully put into Rock Band.

Then again, Jimmy's probably making a mint off of Zeppelin T-shirts alone. So whatever.
 
2009-07-20 01:25:23 PM
www.iconarchive.com
 
2009-07-20 01:26:25 PM
Valdes: Because Led Zep doesn't own the rights to all the songs they stole from old blues and folk musicians, and have never admitted to stealing said songs, and wouldn't want to have to have their overblown name tarnished in the mud as a group of blatent rip off artists while the heirs of the people they ripped off come after them for the back royalties they are so owed?

Rolling Stone Interview with Jimmy Page

"My influences were the riff-based blues coming from Chicago in the Fifties - Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf and Billy Boy Arnold records. "Boogie Chillen'," by John Lee Hooker - that is a riff. But you take it, absorb it and apply your own character, so it comes out another way."

I like to think that musicians don't condescend each other so much that they believe people won't see where the influences come from.

And blues musicians? As if the entire blues genre isn't a giant rip-off fest? It's still great music, but let's not pretend no one knows what's going on in the creative process.
 
2009-07-20 01:27:30 PM
Hebalo: Mr. McPeanut: Ugh. Way to be one of THOSE pretentious asses, Page.

To be fair, it is HIS farking music. Also, it sounds like he's never played your precious game, and maybe he doesn't give a fark about it. Why does that make him pretentious?


He's not pretentious for saying "no" to putting his music in the game.

I think he's being a pretentious ass for spouting that same "it's not worth your time, learn a real instrument" bullshiat that I'm frankly sick of hearing.

It's condescending and completely ignores people who like those games AND play an instrument, or all the kids who actually DID take up an instrument BECAUSE of those games.
 
2009-07-20 01:27:34 PM
Gamer Grrrl: bluesbox: I am a fan of Guitar Hero, but I have to say that I agree with Page on this point: get a real guitar and learn how to play. For the amount of time some kids spend on GH or Rock Band, they could master a real instrument and gain insight into music theory in the bargain. Playing a real instrument has real-world benefits and may lead to future employment. Being good at GH? Not so much. (And a real acoustic guitar has the advantage of being playable even if the power is out.)

That being said: I've played (real) guitar for 20 years and I suck at GH. Being good at one does not make you good at the other.

Gimme a break. I'm a 34-year-old with a full time, a husband, and very little free time. What would learning to play the REAL guitar do for me? Nothing. Instead I'll play fake guitar, be better at it than I could ever be at real guitar, and I can have fun at the same time.


Maybe this is why Jimmy says the thing he says instead of just ignoring this whole fad.
 
2009-07-20 01:31:20 PM
Keywork99: Clan Xpy: Keywork99: If I was interested in learning a real guitar, I'd buy a real guitar.

So you are only interested in learning to play a fake guitar?

I'm interested in playing a video game.



img.photobucket.com
 
2009-07-20 01:32:09 PM
Mr. McPeanut: I think he's being a pretentious ass for spouting that same "it's not worth your time, learn a real instrument" bullshiat that I'm frankly sick of hearing.

It's condescending and completely ignores people who like those games AND play an instrument, or all the kids who actually DID take up an instrument BECAUSE of those games.


As I said, he's likely never played it, or doesn't view it in the same light as you. Maybe he truly believes it's a waste of time. I don't see how that makes him pretentious.
 
2009-07-20 01:33:30 PM
jj325: So---Page says no to Guitar Hero/Rock Band and the hate comes out. If this article had been exactly the opposite, Led Zep Rock Band game coming, the hate would have been all about Zep being in it for the money, how they ripped all of their songs off of other people, etc.

And subby, that was 1 car commercial several years ago

/Led Zep fan
//Not ashamed at all


Some hate would be inevitable, this is the interwebs after all. But I know I'm not the only person who has been clamoring for Zeppelin content since day one. With terrestrial radio stations dying right and left and local record stores shuttering, older bands need exposure and it's hard to get exposure like you would from a big RB release.

Most of my friends are Beatles fans or are fans of bands who have been influenced by the Beatles and yet none of us really knew that until Beatles:RB was announced. From never discussed to top of mind? You can't PAY for publicity like that.
 
2009-07-20 01:34:53 PM
bluesbox: I've played (real) guitar for 20 years and I suck at GH. Being good at one does not make you good at the other.


I bet Jimmy actually has the game and sucks at it and he's just bitter about it.
 
2009-07-20 01:35:04 PM
IndyMBA: I was a guitar purist, like Jimmy Page, and hated Rock Band for the longest time. Then I played it. The game is actually pretty damned fun and a lot harder than I thought it would be. Jimmy just needs to remember this: it's only a video game.

Someone gave me Guitar Hero: World Tour. I've been playing guitar on and off for about 15 years, and I had that same "meh" attitude that I see here all the time. I tried it and liked it. It's obviously a lot different than playing a real guitar, but both are fun in different ways. I bought the GH drum set and have a lot of fun playing that too.
 
2009-07-20 01:40:28 PM
Illidan: jj325: If this article had been exactly the opposite, Led Zep Rock Band game coming, the hate would have been all about Zep being in it for the money, how they ripped all of their songs off of other people, etc.

Lots of peeps here are all for Led Zeppelin. This being fark, those who aren't will troll regardless. Most of the people annoyed about this are probably ones who wanted to play Zeppelin because THEY LIKE THE MUSIC!


Oh, I'd buy it day one. I was looking more at how no matter what they do, Zep seems to get shiat on. It's frustrating
 
2009-07-20 01:49:39 PM
Page is allowed; Guitar Hero isn't on the official list of things that are cooler than Led Zeppelin (new window).
 
2009-07-20 01:49:47 PM
Jimmy Page September 2010:

Just in time for Christmas we're very excited to announce in conjunction with the makers of Guitar Hero the release of Guitar Hero:Led Zeppelin! After some of my earlier comments regarding the game I realized we were withholding our music unnecessarily from some of our biggest fans. We're extremely excited to bring our music to a new generation and hopefully inspire some kids to take up an instrument. Also, cha ching!
 
2009-07-20 01:51:45 PM
The "how about you actually learn an instrument" argument is moot considering people who play GH or Rock Band largely don't care. They're fun games to play with some friends over and a few beers deep, not meant to be some introspective study into the finer guitar noodling of an Eddie Van Halen for instance.
 
2009-07-20 01:54:55 PM
FTA: Instead of mastering the fake guitar, Page advises aspiring musicians to just buy a cheap guitar and learn to make it work.

www.progarchives.com

/obvious
/hotlinked.
 
2009-07-20 01:56:51 PM
BTW, people who defend those video games claiming that they often lead to piquing interest in their players enough that they go buy real guitars are the same people who claim that free downloading of mp3s often leads to people buying CDs.

/Wishing won't make it so, Barney
 
2009-07-20 01:57:12 PM
Hebalo: Mr. McPeanut: I think he's being a pretentious ass for spouting that same "it's not worth your time, learn a real instrument" bullshiat that I'm frankly sick of hearing.

It's condescending and completely ignores people who like those games AND play an instrument, or all the kids who actually DID take up an instrument BECAUSE of those games.

As I said, he's likely never played it, or doesn't view it in the same light as you. Maybe he truly believes it's a waste of time. I don't see how that makes him pretentious.


If he's never played them, or doesn't understand how those games can actually be a good step for people to learn to appreciate music (including his own), maybe he's not being self-important, but just ignorant.

But if he truly believes that they're nothing but a waste of time, then I go back to what I've said in all my previous posts: it's condescending and insulting to a lot of people who play those games AND play an instrument, or to just those people who want to enjoy a GAME for fun - a lot of people who also happen to be fans of his. He's basically saying he won't let them enjoy his music through this medium because he doesn't consider it a worthwhile use of time. I consider it to be a pretentious stance on the matter.

Maybe pretentious isn't the best-fitting adjective for Page in particular. But I'm not here to have a dictionary fight. My arguments (see: rants) are more against the smug bastards who come into threads like these and shiat on everyone who has the audacity to enjoy a simulation game instead of devoting their time to the real thing. To me Page came off sounding like a milder version of their types, and combined with my unusually foul mood today he set off my raging.
 
2009-07-20 02:01:57 PM
Mr. McPeanut: Maybe pretentious isn't the best-fitting adjective for Page in particular. But I'm not here to have a dictionary fight. My arguments (see: rants) are more against the smug bastards who come into threads like these and shiat on everyone who has the audacity to enjoy a simulation game instead of devoting their time to the real thing. To me Page came off sounding like a milder version of their types, and combined with my unusually foul mood today he set off my raging.

It's not shiatting when we are making our point and it is relevant to the article. You're just mad because people on the internet disagree with you.
 
2009-07-20 02:02:14 PM
This has gone on long enough.

You wanna learn how to play an instrument? Buy a farkin instrument. You wanna play a video game? Play the goddamn video game.

Who gives a rat's ass about wtf JP thinks? He made some good music. He is not a social commentator. There's plenty to go around.

Nothing to see here ... move along ...
 
2009-07-20 02:02:52 PM
So I should take my Zep tunes off my ipod because I don't know how to play them for myself only listen to them,?
 
2009-07-20 02:03:11 PM
What happened to "No Stairway"?
 
2009-07-20 02:04:09 PM
I came in here to say this:

I love to play RB and GH. Tons of fun playing songs I'll never master on the instruments I play, and I don't care. I don't play music to learn other people's stuff-- I play to make my own, and take pride in knowing it's mine.

That said, if kids playing those games means that fewer of them start shiatty bands that cover current radio music, that's great for me.

Hopefully it'll kill these dudes off too. (clicky pop)
 
2009-07-20 02:05:42 PM
Mr. McPeanut: but figured I'd be better off learning the play the real thing even moderately well than spending the same effort mastering Expert mode

Haha, that's the exact point I decided to just go buy a real guitar too. My guitar hero progress hit a wall I couldn't break through and I was like "If I'm going to spend hours practicing to get better at something, it ain't going to be this game". I still play the game on hard for fun but I don't play it as much anymore.
 
2009-07-20 02:05:57 PM
Music Nerd: BTW, people who defend those video games claiming that they often lead to piquing interest in their players enough that they go buy real guitars are the same people who claim that free downloading of mp3s often leads to people buying CDs.

/Wishing won't make it so, Barney


Lots of people DO go buy real guitars after playing GH or RB. They just never actually learn the thing. It collects dust while the plastic one gets used. Still, guitar makers do get to sell some more guitars.

However, who cares? I do play guitar, and when I'm just wasting time on my own, I prefer to play around with actual instruments. If you're hanging out at a party and want everyone to be able to have some fun though, then GH and RB are great. Not everybody has the time or inclination to be a musician, just like not everybody has the time or inclination to be a Indy car driver, but you seldom hear the stupid argument about "get a real _insert item here_ instead of playing a video game" for any of the other hundreds of games out there. For some reason music gets singled out.
 
2009-07-20 02:07:01 PM
Music Nerd: BTW, people who defend those video games claiming that they often lead to piquing interest in their players enough that they go buy real guitars are the same people who claim that free downloading of mp3s often leads to people buying CDs.

/Wishing won't make it so, Barney


Never played a modern video game. Downloaded an assload of mp'3 which I followed up with by buying an assload of cd's and vinyl by the same artists. On the game thing, who gives a shiat? I would say MOST people entertain the idea of picking up a musical instrument at some point in their lives - most don't stick with it (not unlike bing an athlete or doctor or speceman or whatever) - GH has done nothing to change that.
 
2009-07-20 02:10:13 PM
I can totally see why Page wouldn't want millions of new fans as kids (and adults) to discover how awesome his band's music is through a fun video game.

Oh, wait, no I can't.

And his "rationale" for not signing on is farking bullshiat. If you don't want to participate, fine, but don't get all farking preachy and douchey about it.

/would post the XKCD comic if someone else hadn't already.
 
2009-07-20 02:10:25 PM
Led Zeppelin is a joke, sorry girls.
 
2009-07-20 02:11:53 PM
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the echo of Puffy shiatting all over Kashmir.

When I saw Page and that farker raping that song on my teevee, I shiat a brick. Page's judgement is not something to be relied on these days. He's got post-Outrider syndrome.
 
2009-07-20 02:13:34 PM
I played guitar hero once. It was no more or less fun than playing any other video game while listening to music. I prefer my Les Paul Custom running through some RCA 6L6GC black plates when I want to rock out, but that's just me.

My roommates LOVE it, however, so more power to them. Fun is fun - who am I to judge their source of enjoyment? Rock on.
 
2009-07-20 02:18:37 PM
Mugato: CPT Ethanolic: I play games that involve vampires, robbing people, shooting people, executing people, bombing missions, world war II, underseas genetic experiments and and era when swords were in fashion. It's a game. It's fun. Get over it.


If I could do all those things in real life and legally, I would. So as a guitar player, I think the game is totally gay for me but I certainly wouldn't lecture anyone else about it. I'd think he would like a younger generation to be exposed to his music.

Valdes: Because Led Zep doesn't own the rights to all the songs they stole from old blues and folk musicians, and have never admitted to stealing said songs, and wouldn't want to have to have their overblown name tarnished in the mud as a group of blatent rip off artists while the heirs of the people they ripped off come after them for the back royalties they are so owed?


Isn't that true of most early rock bands? Who was more of a thief of the black man's music than Elvis and they call him the King of Rock n Roll?


1st of all, Elvis didn't steal nothing from nobody. He was a kid growing up in Memphis and blues were all around him. He combined the black man's blues with the white man's country music and upped the tempo. Ray Charles was just as much a musical thief as Elvis.

Before Elvis the closest thing we had to Rock N Roll was Ike Turner's Rocket 88 and Bill Hailey's Rock Around The Clock which were both rip offs of 1940's swing dance music.
 
2009-07-20 02:19:44 PM
Clan Xpy: Keywork99: If I was interested in learning a real guitar, I'd buy a real guitar.

So you are only interested in learning to play a fake guitar?



Clan Xpy: Through learning the skill of playing a fake instrument.


Clan Xpy:

Maybe this is why Jimmy says the thing he says instead of just ignoring this whole fad.



Clan Xpy: Keywork99: Clan Xpy: Keywork99: If I was interested in learning a real guitar, I'd buy a real guitar.

So you are only interested in learning to play a fake guitar?

I'm interested in playing a video game.

[pic of old Nintendo controller]



Clan Xpy:
It's not shiatting when we are making our point and it is relevant to the article. You're just mad because people on the internet disagree with you.



Say what you will about my arguments, their message, their inordinate amount of rage, whatever. But you have made NO "arguments." You've just made snide and condescending little posts towards the people in this thread who - God forbid - enjoy a video game you don't. I call that thread-shiatting.

You wanna make an argument? Make one.
 
2009-07-20 02:19:54 PM
Someone up there said something about a game not motivating anyone to buy a guitar and learn how to play it.

I played it and I'm motivated to buy a guitar.

So their whole theory is bunk and they are a douche.


/ fark logic
 
2009-07-20 02:23:23 PM
only idiots listen to other people's music. You want music you should learn to play an instrument or two and make your own damn music...
 
2009-07-20 02:23:46 PM
Everyone who plays Civilization really should put down there mouses and take over companies.

I agree with the others. I play video games to have fun. Tonight I will play "Fear of the Dark" and "The Trooper" which would take YEARS to get good enough to play for real.

GH/RB has got me into new music (That I have then d/l'ed from iTunes) since I don't listen to Radio.

Page is a tool. If somebody was really smart they would make a GH/RB that is generic enough that you put your music from your own collection on it and it will "guess" the notes and let you at it. That way you could home brew your own play list and Page could just suck it.

And just to make sure I'm completely ignored, I think Zep is overrated. Great, legendary band, no doubt, but not bigger than any other legend band. Like the Stones, Maiden, Ac/Dc, Beatles, Hendrix, Van Halen.

/How much does the artist get out of the d/l fees for GH/RB songs?
 
2009-07-20 02:24:25 PM
sorebones: Mr. McPeanut: but figured I'd be better off learning the play the real thing even moderately well than spending the same effort mastering Expert mode

Haha, that's the exact point I decided to just go buy a real guitar too. My guitar hero progress hit a wall I couldn't break through and I was like "If I'm going to spend hours practicing to get better at something, it ain't going to be this game". I still play the game on hard for fun but I don't play it as much anymore.


Yeah same here. For some other reasons, too, though. My friends and I just started playing other games for (Smash Bros, Left 4 Dead, TF2), and so the music games just don't get played as much.

But they're hard to beat for when we want to get everyone we know playing. That's one of the fun things about them - they're pretty casual games, so most people are willing to give it a try, and most people have fun with it.
 
2009-07-20 02:29:10 PM
Mr. McPeanut: Clan Xpy:
It's not shiatting when we are making our point and it is relevant to the article. You're just mad because people on the internet disagree with you.


Say what you will about my arguments, their message, their inordinate amount of rage, whatever. But you have made NO "arguments." You've just made snide and condescending little posts towards the people in this thread who - God forbid - enjoy a video game you don't. I call that thread-shiatting.

You wanna make an argument? Make one.


My argument is simple. That no matter how much people say, "It's picking up a controller and playing a game instead of investing hours and hours to learn a skill," in my mind, it still seems like you are learning the skill of a fake guitar. I made that point multiple times. It's not something you pick up and play. You actually invest time, concentration, and muscle memory into it. Just like a real guitar.

It's my fault for thinking I didn't have to expand the explanation into a bloated paragraph for you.

and it's not like I haven't tried the game. I actually owned a copy.
 
2009-07-20 02:31:44 PM
Music Nerd: BTW, people who defend those video games claiming that they often lead to piquing interest in their players enough that they go buy real guitars are the same people who claim that free downloading of mp3s often leads to people buying CDs.

/Wishing won't make it so, Barney


I'll never speak for anybody but myself. However, I purchased many MANY more CD's/new vinyl/iTunes/legal mp3s/other forms of legal music within the decade since first discovering Napster and its clones than within the 2 decades before it.

And damn near everything I purchased within the doubleoughts I wouldn't have if I hadn't "sampled" it through Napster or some other file sharing service first. As terrestrial radio dropped the ball long long ago in terms of introducing me to much music I'd want to listen to at all, let alone want to purchase, it was the only truly effective way to both find new music that I'd want to collect AND find out ahead of time whether or no if I'd be wasting my meager disposable income money on aural diarrhea.
 
2009-07-20 02:34:07 PM
Considering Led Zeppelin has sold over 200 million records worldwide and one of five band/artists at over 100 million sold in the US. I don't really think they need the exposure.

/The other four? The Beatles, Elvis, Garth Brooks and The Eagles just sneak in.
 
2009-07-20 02:36:31 PM
naugahyde monkey: only idiots listen to other people's music. You want music you should learn to play an instrument or two and make your own damn music...

But all the good chords have been taken.
 
2009-07-20 02:39:30 PM
Clan Xpy: My argument is simple. That no matter how much people say, "It's picking up a controller and playing a game instead of investing hours and hours to learn a skill," in my mind, it still seems like you are learning the skill of a fake guitar. I made that point multiple times. It's not something you pick up and play. You actually invest time, concentration, and muscle memory into it. Just like a real guitar.

Even with that, what is your point, exactly? People who have fun with friends over playing a fake guitar are losers? The guy jamming on the drums to a Rush song on Rock Band actually thinks he's Neil Peart? It's still much less expensive to buy the games than an bunch of equipment and poses a much quicker turn-around time for "fun" since it's still infinitely easier to play those games than truly learn any instrument to actually play somewhat correctly to a song.

I don't own those games, and can't play them for too long because it does get boring for me after awhile, so I'm not defensive about this at all. Just honestly curious what the big deal is about "someone playing a fake guitar" as if it's some crime to humanity.
 
2009-07-20 02:41:11 PM
...AND find out ahead of time whether or no if I'd be wasting my meager disposable income money on aural diarrhea (and by so discovering I would be, avoid the doing of such).
 
2009-07-20 02:43:02 PM
Pentaxian: Considering Led Zeppelin has sold over 200 million records worldwide and one of five band/artists at over 100 million sold in the US. I don't really think they need the exposure.

/The other four? The Beatles, Elvis, Garth Brooks and The Eagles just sneak in.



you can never have enough money
 
2009-07-20 02:46:04 PM
SwingingJohnson: But all the good chords have been taken.

I wouldn't know, the only music I hear comes from the 6 chords I've learned on my ukulele.

/must practice more
//pre-made music is for suckers
 
2009-07-20 02:50:38 PM
miltonbabbitt: I played guitar hero once. It was no more or less fun than playing any other video game while listening to music. I prefer my Les Paul Custom running through some RCA 6L6GC black plates when I want to rock out, but that's just me.

My roommates LOVE it, however, so more power to them. Fun is fun - who am I to judge their source of enjoyment? Rock on.


People tend to skip and not comment on common sense in Fark, but I wanted to give you +1 internets for being a cool musician.

/people do what they want for fun. That's good enough
//until it interferes with the rights of othersm than that's a whoopin
 
2009-07-20 02:51:55 PM
naugahyde monkey
//pre-made music is for suckers


You know, there was a time when people actually believed this. That the introduction of the wax cylinder would result in no one remember how to play instruments. This very argument (or one much like it) happens every single time there's a new technology.

You know what doesn't happen?

Music doesn't die. Ever. It hasn't died once. Not even that one time.

And people aren't going to quite playing guitars, listening to Led Zeppelin, pretending to play guitars, or learning to play Led Zeppelin songs just because video games exist.
 
2009-07-20 02:53:58 PM
Killer Cars: Clan Xpy: My argument is simple. That no matter how much people say, "It's picking up a controller and playing a game instead of investing hours and hours to learn a skill," in my mind, it still seems like you are learning the skill of a fake guitar. I made that point multiple times. It's not something you pick up and play. You actually invest time, concentration, and muscle memory into it. Just like a real guitar.

Even with that, what is your point, exactly? People who have fun with friends over playing a fake guitar are losers? The guy jamming on the drums to a Rush song on Rock Band actually thinks he's Neil Peart? It's still much less expensive to buy the games than an bunch of equipment and poses a much quicker turn-around time for "fun" since it's still infinitely easier to play those games than truly learn any instrument to actually play somewhat correctly to a song.

I don't own those games, and can't play them for too long because it does get boring for me after awhile, so I'm not defensive about this at all. Just honestly curious what the big deal is about "someone playing a fake guitar" as if it's some crime to humanity.


Well to be honest the entry fee is about the same. RB: Beatles is slated to sell for 250, and that is enough for even new equipment. I don't see it as being some big deal as much as I think it is just silly and pointless.

If you take the same amount of effort and time investment in learning to play these games, you can learn solid fundamentals on a regular guitar and perhaps even do your own expressions instead of lip synching with your fingers to a song. To me it will always seem to me like you are trading the satisfaction of learning a true expressive art form for instant gratification. I do enjoy the original music games like Amplitude, but this feels like it takes the "playing video games and relaxing" part out of it.
 
2009-07-20 03:02:32 PM
februarymakeup: naugahyde monkey
//pre-made music is for suckers

You know, there was a time when people actually believed this. That the introduction of the wax cylinder would result in no one remember how to play instruments. This very argument (or one much like it) happens every single time there's a new technology.

You know what doesn't happen?

Music doesn't die. Ever. It hasn't died once. Not even that one time.

And people aren't going to quite playing guitars, listening to Led Zeppelin, pretending to play guitars, or learning to play Led Zeppelin songs just because video games exist.


are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was, you know then julia roberts kevin bacon, and keifer sutherland brought it back to life... maybe it's oliver platt I'm thinking about...
 
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