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2003-02-25 07:24:32 PM  
Send it to Michigan next...Same thing here! We want more choices too! Although I like my Bud, we never get a chance to try the "real good" stuff!
 
2003-02-25 07:39:34 PM  
Finally, a story that I think we can all agree is worthy of the [image from img.fark.com too old to be available] tag.
 
2003-02-25 07:52:07 PM  
Anything to get out of work...
 
2003-02-25 08:42:21 PM  
I never had trouble finding any high ABV beer in Michigan.
 
2003-02-25 08:59:37 PM  
What's the deal with high octane beer? If the objective of drinking is to get drunk you have a problem. For those kind I suggest MD-20, cheaper and just as effective.
 
2003-02-25 09:19:41 PM  
Wow, I guess prohibition really isn't over. I'm so glad the government decides for me what I can and cannot put into my own body.
 
2003-02-25 11:42:09 PM  
Equating 6+ percent beer with alcohol abuse is like equating premium gas with speeding.
 
2003-02-26 12:18:37 AM  
How does this deserve a 'hero' tag? Why the hell is getting drunk something to be proud of?
 
2003-02-26 12:19:09 AM  
on an unrelated note: I'm sitting here trying to watch 24 when SWAT swarmed our Apartment building and busted my upstairs neighbors. Now, it looks like they're bringing in the drug team... I think the mexicans upstairs are cooking meth
 
2003-02-26 12:19:50 AM  
Aren't import beers the same alcohol percentage everywhere? Corona, Grolsch, etc.
 
2003-02-26 12:19:56 AM  
Looks like today's article theme has some residue from yesterday's vice theme.

*plays Flock of Seaguls music
 
2003-02-26 12:21:47 AM  
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2003-02-26 12:22:16 AM  
How does this deserve a 'hero' tag? Why the hell is getting drunk something to be proud of?

Why the hell does government need to get involved?
 
2003-02-26 12:22:32 AM  
American beer is shiate.

Well I mean it isn't technically human waste, but it's really watery and not a satisfying experience for my money.
 
2003-02-26 12:23:19 AM  
Seriously. Who the hell cares.
 
2003-02-26 12:23:29 AM  
Students Against Destructive Decisions can run around back and meet Teens Against Drugs and Drinking while they are OUTBABOLWB (Owning Up To Be A Bunch Of Little Whining Biatches) I farking hate student/teen moral groups. Especially that farker Matt Dymmel bible beater.
 
2003-02-26 12:23:36 AM  
I like my high octane beer. It tastes a hell of a lot better than that watered down shiat (Budweiser, Miller, etc etc).

Erie Railbender is some good stuff and it is about 7%.
 
2003-02-26 12:23:45 AM  
Wow, high octane beer is illegal in NC? I know there's dry counties in the South, but I thought limits on alcohol content was a crazy-mormon Utah thing. Never had any problems with it here in Nebraska.

And all good beers have high alcohol contents. Most domestics have low content, and they taste like watered down urine. Almost every good-tasting beer has an alcohol content over 6%, thats just the way it seems to be.
 
2003-02-26 12:24:18 AM  
A lot of high alcohol beers just happen to taste good. Is that so bad? I like them for that reason, not to get drunk.

Coors Light is just fine for that purpose.
 
2003-02-26 12:24:49 AM  
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

beer.
 
2003-02-26 12:27:00 AM  
6 percent?!!

WIMPS!

-some canuck.
 
2003-02-26 12:27:02 AM  
We've had 6% beer in Canada for a long time, but we call it "Light Beer."
 
2003-02-26 12:27:46 AM  
Fight the good fight, NC.
 
2003-02-26 12:28:37 AM  
They sell Steel Reserve Beer in Michigan that is 8.6 and sells for $1.09 for a 24 oz can and below $2.00 for a 40oz. The only people who buy it want to get farked up quick.
 
2003-02-26 12:29:37 AM  
SADD should worry about stopping underage drinking instead of worrying about making 6% beer legal to sell. You don't want kids drinking, then stop them from drinking, don't punish the adult drunks.

It would be like making cigarattes illegal to prevent teens from smoking.
 
2003-02-26 12:30:08 AM  
Liquid Doom.
 
2003-02-26 12:31:30 AM  
Hello, Hytes Xian, I haven't seen you in these here parts in a coon's age.
 
2003-02-26 12:32:04 AM  
Why the hell would 6% beer be illegal to start with?

I mean.... WHY???

Pixie
 
2003-02-26 12:32:34 AM  
tatu is on leno

/offtopic

I like beer!

/on topic
 
2003-02-26 12:33:51 AM  
Why not just skirt the issue by not calling it beer?
 
2003-02-26 12:35:45 AM  
uh, Quick1, last I check the government regulates everything you do, including what you put into your body.

Unless I'm mistaken, you want the government to legalize marijuana, meth (which I guess would have saved Amphibian some trouble), shrooms, and all derivatives of cocaine. Good plan...
 
2003-02-26 12:36:02 AM  
Hytes Xian

Is that some dialect of l33t that you speak, or did your cat step on your keyboard?
 
2003-02-26 12:37:02 AM  
Just drink bourbon, depending on the brand you can get between 40% and 60% ABV.

Why should the alcohol content have anything do with it in the first place.
 
2003-02-26 12:37:19 AM  
Thank God I live in manitoba, where I can legaly drink 9% french beer, at the age of 18.
 
2003-02-26 12:38:12 AM  
The solution is simple. It's a "Legal Loophole" Most beers and ales alchohol content is measured by specific gravity, or WEIGHT. Since alchohol is much lighter by weight than water, simply have the manufacturer print a different label for North Carolina.

A Heineken labeled "3.2%" is the very same Heineken that you'd get anywhere else. Do you honestly believe the Netherland would change their beer for a couple of sissy states?

Just take the 6+% brew in question and have a new label printed. A brew with a percentage-by-weight of 6% should clear 3.2% alchohol when measured by VOLUME. I sure know that 5.5% makes the grade.

Trust me. I know my booze.
 
2003-02-26 12:38:28 AM  
Snizwilk, I chose not to be in SADD because I'm not a hypocrite. Almost everyone in that farking group in my high school either drank, smoked*, or worse.

*not meaning cigarettes
 
2003-02-26 12:39:14 AM  
Radiothor: Trust me. I know my booze.

You pervert!
 
2003-02-26 12:39:41 AM  
Unless I'm mistaken, you want the government to legalize marijuana, meth (which I guess would have saved Amphibian some trouble), shrooms, and all derivatives of cocaine. Good plan...

What exactly gives the government the right to regulate what I put into my body? I don't remember reading it anywhere in the Constitution. Also, why would legalizing drugs necessarily be bad?
 
2003-02-26 12:40:05 AM  
We have this stuff up in Canada called "La Fin Du Monde". I think it's 9%. Good shizt.

And our light beer is 5%.
 
2003-02-26 12:41:00 AM  
I don't think drugs should be legalized, just marijuana since its not a drug.

Beer should be illegal though.
 
2003-02-26 12:44:22 AM  
Government can't regulate what what you put into your body (if you can just, you know, be coo1 in front of strangers).
 
2003-02-26 12:44:55 AM  
What exactly gives the government the right to regulate what I put into my body?

The government has the right and the authority to protect you from eating/drinking things. If the feds just up and legalized all drugs, then the FDA could still swoop down and say "not good for you, you can't use it." That might only have commercial implications, but Big Brother is, in fact, watching out for you some of the time.
 
2003-02-26 12:45:11 AM  
mrp:

Please tell me you're being facetious
 
2003-02-26 12:46:06 AM  
Elite-mrp:

I don't think drugs should be legalized, just marijuana since its not a drug.

Any chemical that alters your body's chemistry is a drug. This includes caffine, nicotine, alcohol, PCP, etc. etc. Therefore, the chemicals in marijuana are a drug.
 
2003-02-26 12:47:43 AM  
Oh, and:

I don't remember reading it anywhere in the Constitution

Do you remember reading Article 1, Section 8?
 
2003-02-26 12:48:11 AM  
Te(V)plar, tell me what that word means and I'll answer.

Wydok, I'm joking, but I'm still serious :)

(Te(V)plar, I'm joking, but I'm still serious)

Where am I?
 
2003-02-26 12:49:02 AM  
The government has the right and the authority to protect you from eating/drinking things.

Where do you get this from? Yes, the government SHHOULD tell us that something is bad for us. But if it's going to do that, why are cigarrettes and alcohol legal, and pot (which is far less harmless) isn't?

I don't want to turn this into a War on Some Drugs flamewar, but I don't see where you are finding the fact that the government has this power to control what we put into out bodies.
 
2003-02-26 12:50:35 AM  
Are we talking about the Commerce clause? That's a real stretch.
 
2003-02-26 12:52:50 AM  
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Yummy.
 
2003-02-26 12:53:47 AM  
So glad I don't live in North Carolina because living in California I like to enjoy an Arrogant Bastard Ale by stone brewing co. that is 7.2% abv and every now and then they release the Big Brother on us Called Double Bastard Ale that is 10% abv and dam tastey
 
2003-02-26 12:54:56 AM  
Oh and the guy does deserive a hero tag fighting for his right to drink a good beer
 
2003-02-26 12:55:39 AM  
Also, Gladiator12g, you haven't told me why exactly legalization is a "bad" thing.
 
2003-02-26 12:56:00 AM  
We're talking about

[The Congress shall have Power] To make all Laws which are necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department of Office thereof.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2003-02-26 12:56:13 AM  
It's just as bad in Oklahoma. The grocery and convenience stores only sell 3.2%... and the liquor stores mark up the prices of real beer 20% or more. And in most counties, you can't get liquor with a meal, only Mormon beer. At least Texas is only a short drive away.
 
2003-02-26 12:59:34 AM  

Does SADD really think teens will start drinking Dobblebach instead of Busch Lite Draft?


Don't they realize that you can get just as drunk on 3.2% EtOH beer as you can on 6%, you just have nastier shiats the next day?


I have quite a bit of contempt for SADD and MADD. They are the ones who keep the bar time here in MN at 1:00 am, stop us from being able to buy wine at the grocery store, etc. You against drunk driving? Me too. You lost a loved one to a drunk driver? Sorry. You against Dopplebach? Well, I can't say it's one of my favorites, but piss off. Go make a flower memorial on the guddam highway.

 
2003-02-26 12:59:43 AM  
Jbc: It's just as bad in Oklahoma. The grocery and convenience stores only sell 3.2%

At least you can buy beer in a grocery store. In Pennsylvania, we have to go to a "beer distributor" which is not the same thing as a "state liquor store."
 
2003-02-26 12:59:43 AM  
Legalization isn't a bad thing, if you keep it in your home. I never want to see the day where someone under the influence of methamphetamines plowed into a soccer mom and her three kids (even though the meth he bought at Wal-mart was legal).
 
2003-02-26 12:59:52 AM  
Gotta eat shoe polish to get a decent buzz, huh?
(Flashback to my childhood) *shakes*
 
2003-02-26 01:00:09 AM  
02-26-03 12:56:00 AM
Gladiator12g

We're talking about
[The Congress shall have Power] To make all Laws which are necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department of Office thereof.


This simply gives Congress the power to make laws that are "necessary and proper" for executing the powers of the Constitution. It doesn't justify government controlling what people choose to drink.
 
2003-02-26 01:00:59 AM  
And in most counties, you can't get liquor with a meal, only Mormon beer.

Is it made of real Mormons?
 
2003-02-26 01:01:30 AM  
Who buys high-ABV beer to get drunk anyway? Most 6+% beers are pretty darn expensive. They're worth the extra money if you want a good beer, but if you really want to drink just to get drunk, a case of Natty Ice is much more economical. Or a $5 bottle of rum, if you can supress your gag reflex long enough to swallow it... ;)

DennyK
 
2003-02-26 01:01:57 AM  
Legalization isn't a bad thing, if you keep it in your home. I never want to see the day where someone under the influence of methamphetamines plowed into a soccer mom and her three kids (even though the meth he bought at Wal-mart was legal).

Yes, and I never want to see the day when some drunk person plows into a soccer mom and her three kids. Guns kill people, yet that is not a sufficient argument to make them illegal.
 
2003-02-26 01:02:05 AM  
I first read the headline as:

North Carolina PILOTS fighting to legalize 6+% alcohol beer

and I was like wtf? farkin flyboys, of COURSE we should have strong beer. strong badia. feh

<i will blazin your amazin
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2003-02-26 01:02:54 AM  
Wydok: I have visited State College twice on business. Those rules confused me as much as the combo "liquor store/motel" just south of town.
 
2003-02-26 01:03:43 AM  
Quick1, I know what it means.

It also means that the government can make a department about drugs, and if that department thinks crack is a little iffy, Congress can make a law that says it's illegal.
 
2003-02-26 01:05:13 AM  
Guns protect people. Crystal meth doesn't.
 
2003-02-26 01:05:13 AM  
Honestly I'm curious, what exactly is Mormon beer? I thought those culties* didn't drink coffee, much less beer? Mormon beer = root beer?

*Kidding about the cult thing, mostly.
 
2003-02-26 01:05:39 AM  
Quick1: Guns kill people, yet that is not a sufficient argument to make them illegal.

Sure it is.

:>
 
2003-02-26 01:06:04 AM  
Oh, it's a cult.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2003-02-26 01:07:02 AM  
Mormon beer = 3.2 beer = horsepiss
 
2003-02-26 01:07:31 AM  
It also means that the government can make a department about drugs, and if that department thinks crack is a little iffy, Congress can make a law that says it's illegal.

That article alone does not give them power to make the department to declare something illegal. Otherwise they could establish a "Free Speech Department" that makes illegal for, say, you to speak. Yet they can't because it violates the Constitution.
 
2003-02-26 01:07:49 AM  
Jbc: "liquor store/motel"

Um, that's odd. Never heard of one of those before. "Come for the alcohol, stay for the hangover!"
 
2003-02-26 01:09:36 AM  
Infectious- yeah . . . it's borderline. My little sister converted @ age 18, against my (Roman Catholic) parents' vehement objections. I, on the other hand, went off to a Liberal Arts university at age 18 to practice witchcraft & become a lesbian. They didn't seem to mind that so much.
 
2003-02-26 01:09:49 AM  
Guns protect people. Crystal meth doesn't.

Crystal meth doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights, if taken within your home.

Sure it is.

I think you're kidding, but just in case, I'll sick Charlton Heston on you. "...WHEN YOU PRY THEM FROM MY COLD, DEAD... where am I?"

:D
 
2003-02-26 01:10:10 AM  
Gladiator The government has the right and the authority to protect you from eating/drinking things. If the feds just up and legalized all drugs, then the FDA could still swoop down and say "not good for you, you can't use it." That might only have commercial implications, but Big Brother is, in fact, watching out for you some of the time.

The federal government protects American citizens from themselves the same way an abusive husband protects his wife out of "love".

If the feds truly believed in a society that respects personal responsibility, they would stay out of our personal lives and allow us to learn from the INTRINSIC consequences of our actions -- as opposed to "marijuana is bad for you because you'll go to jail for it", which does nothing but foster hateful attitudes towards authority in our society, and understandably so.
 
2003-02-26 01:11:45 AM  
02-26-03 12:22:32 AM Zintango
American beer is shiate.

Props.
 
2003-02-26 01:14:05 AM  
That's assuming there is a right to eat or drink whatever you want. You don't have that right. You do have the right to say (almost) anything you want.
 
2003-02-26 01:14:47 AM  
Well I for one am glad that the government chooses to keep marijuana illegal. I can still get it cheap from my friends anytime, its tax free, AND i can sell off the rest at an inordinatly large price to the desperate 9th graders! Who would have thought that you could smoke large amounts of pot and have your savings account go UP!

Thanks Uncle Sam!
 
2003-02-26 01:16:29 AM  
Doodievomit, you live in a Republican society. If you lived in a liberaly society then the government would stay out of your business. But alas, you don't.
 
2003-02-26 01:16:51 AM  
Uncle Sam? I'm talkin' Uncle Jemima!

Do ya like drinkin'? Who da hell don't?
Well, if you're like me, you like to get bit just as fast as possible!
 
2003-02-26 01:18:13 AM  
StickyResin

LOL, to use the parlance of our time.
 
2003-02-26 01:19:49 AM  
I hope none of you Canadians on this board who are slagging american beer are canadian (tm) or blue drinkers, cuz taht shiat is really not much better that some of the more decent commercial american beers and it's not worth bragging about.

some of the granville island products and most of the shaftesbury line, however, are like amber flavoured angels peeing on your tounge.
 
2003-02-26 01:20:30 AM  
let's try this again:

Doodievomit, you live in a Republican society. If you lived in a liberaly Liberal society then the government would stay out of your business. But alas, you don't.
 
2003-02-26 01:21:32 AM  
The big three breweries AB, Miller and Coors have a virtual trust due to distribution, advertising and market share. I manage to find drinkable beer but its hard. The Canadian beers are priced about the same and much better. Most of the imports are overpriced and difficult to find. If you can buy in bulk from a micro, it is the way to go as very few have the time to home brew. It's really about choice, like having several nice resturants instead of one fast food joint.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2003-02-26 01:22:23 AM  
Note the address and phone number of each:

Sleep

Beer
 
2003-02-26 01:22:56 AM  
This has got to be a bad statement for American beer:

If I've gotten a little alcohol in me already from another source (wine, liquor, or some kind of fruit beer), then I can usually stomach one or two beers that aren't exclusively American (Grolsch, Heffe (the whitish colored wheat beer, or even a Corona).

But no matter how drunk I've gotten already, American stuff (Anything cheap, but Miller especially) sets off my gag reflex* faster than a . . . . well, you fill in the blank.

*Once upon a girl's night, my friends and I were discussing this whole gag thing. One of us can drink crap beer, but can't 'swallow' without gagging; one of us gags trying to get down 12 oz of crappy American beer, but actually enjoys the other; one can do both . . . biatch.
 
2003-02-26 01:23:38 AM  
*sniffles because her font size thing didn't work. Darn html. Darn it all to Heck!
 
2003-02-26 01:25:25 AM  
That's assuming there is a right to eat or drink whatever you want. You don't have that right. You do have the right to say (almost) anything you want.

Of course I can eat or drink anything I want. It doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights. It may not be a "right" defined in the COnstitution, but it's not something the government can justify controlling in the Constitution, either.
 
2003-02-26 01:26:18 AM  
legalize pot and beer and sell them in the special stores that only sell pot and beer and booze and wine and stop selling beer and wine and liquor in grocery stores and sell coke in pharmacies and sell heroin cheap in special heroin and opiate dispensiries staffed by medical personell and make cigarrettes harder to smoke and more expensive and make it possible for any junkie be he/she crack addicted, heroin addicted or glue addicted or whatever to get treatment on demand should he/she ever have a moment of clarity and put the money you save on crime control and drug control into teaching kids not to use drugs and showing them all the old stupid skinny pasty junkies who have to line up three times a day as slaves to their addiction and and all your problems are solved and you can go do better things like saving the children of africa or eating a bigger burrito or flying higher in an airplane or banishing run-on sentences.
 
2003-02-26 01:26:59 AM  
you live in a Republican society. If you lived in a liberaly society then the government would stay out of your business. But alas, you don't.

It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were the champions of smaller government. Remember Contract with America?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2003-02-26 01:27:56 AM  
"one can do both . . . biatch"

Forget the phone numbers I linked to, we need this one.
 
2003-02-26 01:29:08 AM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend: Well said, I think.
 
2003-02-26 01:29:19 AM  
Jbc- sorry dahling, she's spoken for.
 
2003-02-26 01:32:36 AM  
I like Bill_Wick's_Friend. Legalize drugs and tax the hell out of them. And lower my farking income tax!
 
2003-02-26 01:38:12 AM  
Quick1

The Republicans still want a small government and stronger states.

Members of the GOP are, in the true sense of the word, liberal. The Democrats actually subscribe to the idea of Republicanism.
 
2003-02-26 01:40:20 AM  
That's assuming there is a right to eat or drink whatever you want. You don't have that right. You do have the right to say (almost) anything you want.

Do I have the right to masturbate as much as I want, or can the government control that, too?
 
2003-02-26 01:41:01 AM  
NC beers you should try:

1: Front Street Brewery Raspberry-Wheat

2: Anything from the Weeping Radish

3: Carolina Brewing Company Pale Ale


Mmmm...beer...aarrlghhh...
 
2003-02-26 01:42:10 AM  
Fight the good fight, friends. T'is the noblest of causes.
 
2003-02-26 01:42:13 AM  
I'm talking about fapping in the privacy in my own home, of course. Fapping in public is just sick.
 
2003-02-26 01:44:36 AM  
The Christian Coalition (aka the Bush Administration) would like to take away your right to fap I'm sure. But that's more a state matter anyway. What state are you in? Fapping is by no means sodomy, but I'm sure it's illegal wherever you live.
 
43%
2003-02-26 01:48:48 AM  
Yikes. I'm in NC and remember when they went above 3.2.

God I never realized it was capped at 6%. Then again, I've had some imported 20% fortified brew from Belgium. Yech. Not something to pound down while watching a game.

While I'm at it, if they do decide to go above 6%, my favorite store will be the place to get ANYTHING you want.

God I love that place. Even at 6 'or so' (heh heh)
 
2003-02-26 01:49:16 AM  
Quick1

Go download The Terrible Truth About Marijuana (1951).

Funny reefer madness intro leads to pretty realistic portrayal of heroin addiction leads to also realistic portrayal of withdrawl leads to "just say no" moral and red-baiting "maybe it's a commie plot" sidebar.

Roger Ebert says "I smoked a fatty and stuffed my face with popcorn. Two buttery thumbs up"
 
2003-02-26 01:50:43 AM  
The best beer have 4.3-4.9 %. I've had 13% and it wan't any good. As far as I know high alco beers are for those who don't like beer. Don't need to drink as many to pass out.
 
43%
2003-02-26 01:51:12 AM  
and with all do respect, Malinois

Carolina Brewing Company Pale Ale

blech. Might as well be Greenshields.
 
2003-02-26 01:51:23 AM  
We're ot talking about what states have the power to do, because then we have to go over a million different state Constitution variations. We're talking about what the FEDERAL government has the power to do, because I was making the analogy of fapping to the illegality of mary jane. I still haven't seen Constitutional justification for the illegalization of drugs. I have no idea how the Supreme Court justified it, which would be a good place to start looking if you're going to try and shoot me down here, which isn't looking likely.

I can tell you with about 90% sureness that masturbation in the privacy of your own home is not illegal, however. In any state. If it is, I would REALLY like to see the state's Constitutional justification for THAT!

The federal government should not have the power to control what you drink, what you eat, when you fap, whatever, so long as they do not infringe upon anyone's rights. Moreover, I see no current Constitutional justification for this, either.
 
2003-02-26 01:52:52 AM  
Ahh finally something to be glad for, living in Nebraska, where we can put as much acohol into our beer as we want. So bring it on.
 
2003-02-26 01:54:26 AM  
02-26-03 01:49:16 AM
Bill_Wick's_Friend

Quick1
Go download The Terrible Truth About Marijuana (1951).
Funny reefer madness intro leads to pretty realistic portrayal of heroin addiction leads to also realistic portrayal of withdrawl leads to "just say no" moral and red-baiting "maybe it's a commie plot" sidebar.
Roger Ebert says "I smoked a fatty and stuffed my face with popcorn. Two buttery thumbs up"


Sounds like fun. I love propaganda. I'm on my way.
 
2003-02-26 02:01:14 AM  
Quick1, get over yourself, farking troglodyte.

My response to your analogy of jacking off was obviously in jest; the drivel that comprises the rest of your last post is so contrived that I have no intention of responding to it seriously.

If you don't like living in the United States, GET OUT. Go to Britain, they don't even have a Constitution. Oh wait! Drugs still seem to be illegal there! Guess you'll have to try the Netherlands. That seems far enough away from me. Good luck to you.
 
2003-02-26 02:10:21 AM  
Wow, glad you were being so clearly saarcastic. Subtle things like that are so easy to read as text, even when your words aren't dripping with sarcasm.

/SARCASM.

No, I'm not leaving, ass. I didn't saw I didn't like living here, I said I didn't agree with some of the policy. Get a farking clue.
 
2003-02-26 02:10:58 AM  
saw = say.
 
2003-02-26 02:29:39 AM  
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2003-02-26 02:31:24 AM  
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A rich, full-bodied winter warmer crafted in the British tradition of holiday beers. This deep mahogany colored brew balances complex fruit flavors with a refreshingly smooth texture, making Snow Cap a highly drinkable and desirable cold weather companion.
Original Gravity: 1.071
Alcohol By Volume: 7.00%
Malts: 2-Row Barley, Caramel, Chocolate Malt
Hops: Willamette, East Kent Goldings
Availability: Mid October - January
Best Paired With: Shellfish, rich game and even rich chocolatey desserts


Silver Medal, World Beer Championships, "Strong Ale", 1998
 
2003-02-26 02:32:14 AM  
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2003-02-26 02:43:45 AM  
43%: Never had Greenshields. I assume it's similar to the basic Dergy's and Red Oak. No sweat. Had it off tap and enjoyed it with a meal. May be different as an all-night drink. But I'll agree, it's no El Toro.

For the love of everything that's good and right, will one of you San Jose/SF Farkers help them with their site? Please?!?
 
2003-02-26 05:18:44 AM  
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12%. Belgian. Named "Bush". 'nuff said :)
 
2003-02-26 05:52:21 AM  
Now that I think of it, France might have a point about America sucking
 
2003-02-26 05:58:10 AM  
I'm really happy that Budweiser has to share its branding with the real Budweiser now - another one in the eye of The Man.

They should really have counter-sued American Budweiser under the trade descriptions act for claiming to be beer.
 
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2003-02-26 07:16:09 AM  
We've got this on St. Croix.. Elephant Beer.. 7.9% alcohol.

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2003-02-26 08:26:40 AM  
?? some priorities are screwed up. how is 9% beer worse than 99% grain?

i thought things were bad here:
alcohol sales in liquor stores only, no gas stations or grocery stores.
no alcohol sales after 10pm
no alcohol sales on Sunday
no one under 21 can transport any alcohol in a car (even if someone of legal age bought it and is holding it)

but high % beer is legal - sam adams double and triple bock, sierra nevada bigfoot ale - these arent even small microbrews or imports that are available.
 
2003-02-26 08:55:38 AM  
what is the beer with the highest % ????????

duuno if its been asked yet, but im too tired to read thru all of the other stupid comments...

Here at UF, the highest i usually see at parties is good old NATTY ICE
 
CB
2003-02-26 09:02:26 AM  
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CB
2003-02-26 09:04:43 AM  
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2003-02-26 09:09:24 AM  
Send them Oklahoma next. The Great Beer Underground is ready to rise up.

Actually the swill we get here is by law "a non-intoxicating beverage". They way the statute is written the legislature says you can't get drunk on 3.2 beer.
 
2003-02-26 09:11:06 AM  
"But groups like Students Against Destructive Decisions (SADD) say raising the limit would increase the risk of impairment among underage drinkers for whom beer is the drink of choice."

OK, what's an underage drinker more likely to buy, a $40 case of a higher alcohol beer or a $9 case of Utica Club Lite?
 
2003-02-26 09:16:48 AM  
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Wow, 6% cap...that really sucks. I drink this beer quite often, its awesome but it knocks you out pretty good. Its good to live in Canada :)
 
2003-02-26 09:34:07 AM  
Ow Gawd, Fb-. I had an Elephant on my last day in Germany in 92'. That stuff was nasty but did the job. Cool thing about that is I had it in a McDonald's over a Big Mac sitting next to some nuns.
 
2003-02-26 09:36:34 AM  
Another very concise example of how the 'high and mighty " rule us little ones....by virtue of being elected to a 'high' office they know and feel much more and better than the little people they rule. And just coincidentally it gives them an opportune to do a little bitty favor for people that give them lots of money, (Coors, Bud...ect.) In my humble experience the higher alcohol beers are not the ones that you would reach for in a chugg a lugg contest....no you reach for a Bud....goes down like water. But the rulers know better than us and decree that we should not drink beers they 'feel' are not good for us, or compete with their holy contributors (which ever comes first) don't worry to much about this little thing though they have many more rules for us little ones....we who have such a great need to be ruled.
 
2003-02-26 09:39:52 AM  
Give me
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or

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and call me a happy man. (both @ 5.2%)
 
2003-02-26 09:49:10 AM  
As long as they don't try and legalize pot I'm OK with it.

And Fat Tire sucks ass.

www.saintarnold.com

Best. Beer. Ever.
 
2003-02-26 10:06:45 AM  
I'm attending LU at Thunder Bay, ON. On a recent spring break trip to Duluth, MN (yeah, it was paradise) We all stopped in at the first liqour store we saw in Grand Marais, MN. The girls bought smirnoff ice... it was rated at 5% there but 7% in Canada. Interesting, why would they change it for the US (or change it for Canada?) Also, why isnt there a posted alcohol content on beers in the US? My favorite beer down there mainly cause its cheap is Shlitz regular (not the malt liquor) and its pretty tolerable. The only downside is that you're pis$ing every 5 min cause it takes 12 to get a goot buzz on.
 
2003-02-26 10:08:33 AM  
AirGuitar: You should never tell anyone Schlitz is your favorite beer. Even if it is.
 
2003-02-26 10:25:21 AM  
SADD, wtf, why should underage peple even get a choice, they shouldn't be able to buy beer!
 
2003-02-26 10:36:24 AM  
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2003-02-26 10:40:15 AM  
There are plenty of good American beers, they just dont come from Anheiser Busch, or Coors, ect...
 
2003-02-26 10:47:22 AM  
Mmm Samichlaus, Thank you Egginberger for taking over the brewing!

Nothing like a 14.9% alcohol beer brewed only on your birthday then fermented a year.
 
2003-02-26 10:49:08 AM  
Eat More Possum :
What's the deal with high octane beer? If the objective of drinking is to get drunk you have a problem. For those kind I suggest MD-20, cheaper and just as effective.


Well the objective IS to get a buzz. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar. Otherwise we'd all be drinking O'Doul's.

If it weren't for the buzz effect, wine never would have taken off, because let's face it, the first time ya drink it it tastes like ass.
 
2003-02-26 10:51:10 AM  
Mr.Hanky :
Ow Gawd, Fb-. I had an Elephant on my last day in Germany in 92'. That stuff was nasty but did the job. Cool thing about that is I had it in a McDonald's over a Big Mac sitting next to some nuns.


You're my new hero.
 
2003-02-26 11:08:27 AM  
WarmBeer: I assume you actually know nothing about beer. I spent several of my teenage years drinking O'Doul's and it tastes like cold piss. Now I drink real beer like Yeungling Lager, but not to get intoxicated.
If I want to get intoxicated, I'll smoke pot. No hangover and fewer bathroom trips.
 
maz
2003-02-26 11:21:45 AM  
WarmBeer obviously doesn't appreciate the taste of different beers and wines. If all I cared about was "getting a buzz" I'd drink the cheapest crap I could tolerate. But that's just not the case.

I wish you could actually make a decent tasting low (or non) alcohol beer.
 
maz
2003-02-26 11:24:26 AM  
I take that back... if all I wanted was a buzz, I'd have 2 or 3 tequila shots and be done with it.
 
2003-02-26 11:25:52 AM  
This thread is probably long forgotten but I'm going to reply anyway.

Doodievomit, you live in a Republican society. If you lived in a liberaly society then the government would stay out of your business. But alas, you don't.

If we lived in a hugely liberal society we'd be denied our right to own guns, and hate crime legislation would run rampant (punish for motive rather than the act), and, much like San Francisco, strip clubs would be forced to hire fat women as federal law.

Under a Republican society, thankfully, there IS a chance, however small, of the drug laws being repealed moreso than the Big Nanny Government Democrats -- guess what? One of the conservative movement's most revered opinion publications, the National Review, has taken legalization of marijuana as an official stance, officially declaring the Drug War and it's effects have run contrary to conservative ideals of a Constitutional federal government.

And I've run across many a liberal who believes legalization of drugs would be a bad idea, because it would "put recreational drugs into the hands of Big Corporations". Ooooh, we can't have responsible capitalism doing it's thing (Stalin wouldn't like that!), best we leave drugs to the violent street gangs and other unscrupulous characters eh?

Of course, the best alternative to either a Republican government or a Liberal government would be a government that doesn't cross the established limits of the Constitution, but that won't happen anytime soon, too good to be true ;-)
 
2003-02-26 11:35:11 AM  
WarmBeer
I had a beer at a McDonald's in Italy (Rome) in '92.
Just to be able to say I had beer at McDonalds.
I think the brand was Peroni.
It was crap.
Italians don't know from good beer.

Anyone who says American beer is crap has never had anything from

Anchor
Otter Creek
Sam Adams
Pyramid
or, frankly, a gajillion other American breweries that make good beer.
 
2003-02-26 11:39:54 AM  
Did everyone hear that? Hagbardr says pot makes him intoxicated.

My points of yesterday are now proven.
 
2003-02-26 11:46:14 AM  
 
2003-02-26 11:51:16 AM  
Three words:
Brew your own.
 
2003-02-26 12:22:47 PM  
Also, beer does not have to be high in alcohol content to be good.
I hear that Guinness has a low alcohol content, maybe 3% or so.* Anyone know for sure?

*plus, it's so filling, you're likely to get full before you get drunk.
 
2003-02-26 12:59:31 PM  
02-25-03 07:24:32 PM Jerry31
which michigan are you from? I can get over 6% beer. I can go to the brewery a few miles away and get 11% dopple bock.
 
2003-02-26 01:00:01 PM  
Hagbardr :
WarmBeer: I assume you actually know nothing about beer. I spent several of my teenage years drinking O'Doul's and it tastes like cold piss. Now I drink real beer like Yeungling Lager, but not to get intoxicated.
If I want to get intoxicated, I'll smoke pot. No hangover and fewer bathroom trips.


And I'm saying beer never would be as popular as it is today if it weren't for the buzz effect. You START drinking it for the buzz...then you MAY truly enjoy it once you've acquired a taste for it. But don't tell me that people, in general, begin drinking beer because they truly loved its taste from day 1. That's pure denial...it ain't just a river in...blah.
 
2003-02-26 01:04:59 PM  
Lewis :
Anyone who says American beer is crap has never had anything from
Anchor
Otter Creek
Sam Adams
Pyramid
or, frankly, a gajillion other American breweries that make good beer.


We get our shiatty reputation because we export Budweiser and such. Foreigners give us Guinness and such. We send Bud back. Of COURSE they have a low opinion of us.
 
2003-02-26 01:52:18 PM  
The strongest beer I've had is this Canadian beer with some kind of demon-satan theme on the label. It was 9%.

Ugh, I can't believe Utah has a 3.2 cap. That's like the weakest bud light in the world. Just freaking terrible.

Heck, I didn't even know states had a cap on beer until now. I guess you get blind to these kinds of laws here in CA. Honestly, having no cap on the alcohol in beer doesn't seem to affect any of the college students, etc. They always buy the cheap, crappy stuff anyway. My feeling is if you give people weak beer, they'll just develop bad, unsophisticated taste. Those laws must be sponsored by Budweiser.
 
maz
2003-02-26 02:25:23 PM  
WarmBeer, OK, I'll give you that point - I definitely started drinking beer in my late teens for the buzz. That was about 20 years ago though - before I knew about good beer.

RagingL, I'll be brewing a Belgian Dubble this weekend! Damn I love homebrew!

For all those in Chicago - don't forget that this weekend is the Real Ale Festival sponsored by Goose Island. Been going for the last 5 years - a great festival every year. You can find me in the Barley Wine section!
 
2003-02-26 02:32:41 PM  
I'm just surprised that there is a Farker out there who reads stateline.
 
maz
2003-02-26 02:35:16 PM  
Poleaxed,

That Canadian "devil" beer you speak of is called Maudite by Unibroue. Truly one of my favorite beers in the world.

I believe "Maudite" means "the damned".
 
2003-02-26 03:33:18 PM  
best use of hero tag. ever.
 
2003-02-26 03:47:02 PM  
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2003-02-26 08:02:30 PM  
3.2 limit in Utah? Just one more reason not to convert to Mormon. Besides the door-to-door missionary work, lack of oral sex, etc....
 
2003-02-26 08:55:18 PM  
About whether or not the percentage of alcohol content is required on the label: here in the US, it seems that some beers have it, some beers don't. My guess is that it is probably required only if the alcohol content is above a certain percentage, or if it is something other than a beer, like a wine cooler, or one of those malt/mixed beverages like the Smirnoff Ice. It would be interesting to know the law on this.

What is very interesting to me, is that for those beers that don't state the alcohol content, they never actually say anywhere on the container that they contain alcohol at all! They have a government warning about how pregnant women should not drink alcoholic beverages, and how alcohol can impair your ability to drive and can cause health problems, but nowehere does it say that the beverage you are holding actually contains alcohol.

Now obviously, one would have to be a moron not to infer that a can or bottle of beer, with that warning on it, contains alcohol. But lawyers and requlations being what they are, I've always been surprised that the manufacturers would not be required to (or not want to out of fear of lawsuits by morons) put an explicit statement on the container saying that the product contains alcohol.
 
2003-02-26 09:51:23 PM  
Ok, the first Doppleboch I can think of is Celebrator, which is $12.99 a SIX pack, and now that I think of it, Mohr's is like $3.49 a bottle. My personal favorite, McEwan's Scotch Ale is also about $8.99 - $9.99 a six pack.

My question is... who in the hell is kidding themselves when they say this kind of beer will quickly fall into the hands of minors? You'd have to have a fist full of cash. I mean this is some seriously expensive brew we're talking about. I can go to the Thunderbird Drive-Thru and get a case of Busch Light(twitches) for about $12.99 (God forbid you sink to the Natty Light level).

At that age it's all about quantity over quality.

What does having sex in a canoe and American beer have in common?

They're both farking close to water.
 
2003-02-27 02:04:53 AM  
Land of the free my ass.

You can be drafted, vote and be a teen porn star all at the age of 18, but you cant drink legally until you're 21 and then its nothing but piss weak 3% dirty water!?!

Sorry kids, but American sensibilities and moral/legal standards are completely farked up. Only place in the world where Christian Fundamentalism and heavily armed militia go hand in hand. You can own a semi-automatic machine gun but not brew a good larger.

Oh, shiat, how did I get on this bloody soapbox ....

*backs away quietly*
 
2003-02-27 03:36:09 AM  
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2003-02-27 03:40:04 AM  
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