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(Des Moines Register)   Not News: 57 year-old man and seven 19 year-olds arrested at underage drinking party. Kinda News: The man is the general counsel for Iowa's largest hospital system. Fark: His wife is the Chief Justice of the Iowa Supreme Court   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 68
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2009-07-18 10:31:56 AM
I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.
 
2009-07-18 10:53:51 AM
Arresting these people and dragging them through the court system is an enormous waste of tax dollars.
 
2009-07-18 11:30:51 AM
They can be trusted to vote but not to drink.
 
2009-07-18 11:31:42 AM
SphericalTime: I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.

This. It sounds like he's just being a responsible parent, letting his kid drink at home. Better to do that than to let him drink unsupervised. Oh well.
 
2009-07-18 11:32:04 AM
Dude was doing a good thing too.

Law - Black or white.

Dude - Okay they are already drinking, I'm gonna do my best to make sure they act responsibily and get home safe.
 
2009-07-18 11:34:58 AM
KinetiKiteniK: They can be trusted to vote but not to drink.

Adults in the eyes of the law in every way......except alcohol consumption.

Yeah, it makes perfect sense doesn't it.
 
2009-07-18 11:35:59 AM
CheddarPants [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-18 10:53:51 AM
Arresting these peopleDemocrats and dragging them through the court system is an enormous waste of tax dollars.


Only if it is a Republican.

FTFY

SphericalTime [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-18 10:31:56 AM
I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.


Homophobic are we?
 
2009-07-18 11:36:08 AM
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2009-07-18 11:37:02 AM
HMS_Blinkin: SphericalTime: I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.

This. It sounds like he's just being a responsible parent, letting his kid drink at home. Better to do that than to let him drink unsupervised. Oh well.


Louisiana law allows for that, but specifically for your kids, not anyone else's.
 
2009-07-18 11:37:34 AM
CheddarPants: Arresting these people and dragging them through the court system is an enormous waste of tax dollars.

or a great opportunity to collect about 500 per person between fines and probation fees
 
2009-07-18 11:40:48 AM
One thing some have missed here is that while it is OK for a parent to allow his or her kid(s) to drink at home, under parental supervision, it is most certainly not OK to allow other kids to do so there. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor and all that.

Plus, when an officer tells you not to go somewhere, you don't ignore that.

All that said, you just know all this is going to get quietly swept under a rug in a few weeks.

/one of the kids arrested is the elder brother of one of my students from last year
//would have been fun to see daddy go off on the kid
 
2009-07-18 11:43:37 AM
Mongo cut wood: SphericalTime [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-18 10:31:56 AM
I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.

Homophobic are we?


Uh, well, I'm gay, so not really. But the pattern is still there, and it's hilarious.
 
2009-07-18 11:43:42 AM
grumpygrouper: CheddarPants: Arresting these people and dragging them through the court system is an enormous waste of tax dollars.

or a great opportunity to collect about 500 per person between fines and probation fees


and a neanderthal who barely graduated high school got to pretend he's better than a hospital administrator and a chief justice for a few hours.
 
2009-07-18 11:44:40 AM
A couple of random thoughts:


He will get off (though it may cost him his current job) because of his wealth and connections. Had he been just an average person, he'd be charged.

Alcohol is a drug. A socially acceptable drug, but a drug none the less. Replace the booze in this story with marijuana and people would be up in arms about this (at least in Iowa).
 
2009-07-18 11:50:05 AM
Steve Zodiac:

Alcohol is a drug. A socially acceptable drug, but a drug none the less. Replace the booze in this story with marijuana and people would be up in arms about this (at least in Iowa).


And that would be equally stupid
 
2009-07-18 11:51:34 AM
Aulus: One thing some have missed here is that while it is OK for a parent to allow his or her kid(s) to drink at home, under parental supervision, it is most certainly not OK to allow other kids to do so there.

Instead lets bust the parents and push the kids to drive out to a secluded location to do their drinking without any supervision. Then they can drive back home drunk. That's what kids did when I was in high school, and sometimes they ended up dead.

I understand there's a good chance when my son reaches his high school years that he's going to drink. I'd rather him do it in a safe environment around responsible adults instead of sneaking around.
 
2009-07-18 11:52:24 AM
Screw the drinking story. Anyone else read the review of breakfast joints?

/hungry
 
2009-07-18 11:58:55 AM
Akuinnen: I understand there's a good chance when my son reaches his high school years that he's going to drink. I'd rather him do it in a safe environment around responsible adults instead of sneaking around.


Why do you hate America?
 
2009-07-18 12:00:44 PM
This would never happen where I live. Then again, I live in a civilized country where 18 or 19-year olds are allowed to drink!
 
2009-07-18 12:01:59 PM
Always proud to read a story about my home state and its representatives.
 
2009-07-18 12:05:17 PM
It will be interesting to see what if any either of them have done/said regarding alcohol consumption and/or underage alcohol consumption and/or the rights of police to enter public property in their professional capacities as jurists and attorneys.

If - even once - they came out against such activities or in favor of the police's right to come onto your property sans warrant then not only must they all plead guilty they must resign immediately.

There is no stench like the stench of hypocrisy.
 
2009-07-18 12:11:39 PM
SphericalTime: Mongo cut wood: SphericalTime [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-18 10:31:56 AM
I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.

Homophobic are we?

Uh, well, I'm gay, so not really. But the pattern is still there, and it's hilarious.


/lol
 
2009-07-18 12:19:18 PM
arte1953: Screw the drinking story. Anyone else read the review of breakfast joints?

/hungry


Oregon Speedball?
 
2009-07-18 12:20:19 PM
19 year-olds? That's illegal? What a joke. God bless I grew up in Canada.
 
2009-07-18 12:20:58 PM
Death sentences and lethal injection for all involved.
 
2009-07-18 12:21:29 PM
useless without pics of the 19 year olds
 
2009-07-18 12:22:45 PM
I blame gay marriage.
 
2009-07-18 12:23:42 PM
Did everybody ever try to fight these ridiculous drinking laws you have in the U.S? How can it be possible that you are considered an adult by law but are not yet deemed responsible enough to drink? Has anybody ever tried to bring this supreme court?
 
2009-07-18 12:26:33 PM
lol I'm friends with Ricky Murtha on Facebook. All these kids went to Dowling.
 
2009-07-18 12:27:53 PM
bikkurikun: Did everybody ever try to fight these ridiculous drinking laws you have in the U.S? How can it be possible that you are considered an adult by law but are not yet deemed responsible enough to drink? Has anybody ever tried to bring this supreme court?

Can't fight them. It has the "You want to kill our children defense".

Kinda annoying because it's a few bat shiat crazy mom's and some dads that are the only ones pushing it.

Silly enough Alcohol was probably the reason they opened their legs and had their child.
 
2009-07-18 12:28:01 PM
HMS_Blinkin: SphericalTime: I was going to check to see if it was girls or boys in order to see if he was a Dem or a Rep, but it was just his son holding a big bonfire party. Whatever.

This. It sounds like he's just being a responsible parent, letting his kid drink at home. Better to do that than to let him drink unsupervised. Oh well.


actually he was parked at the end of the driveway when the cops came so that no one could leave. It's legal for his own kid to drink but not the other ones, under iowa law. I think its retarded but oh well.
 
2009-07-18 12:34:38 PM
bikkurikun: Did everybody ever try to fight these ridiculous drinking laws you have in the U.S? How can it be possible that you are considered an adult by law but are not yet deemed responsible enough to drink? Has anybody ever tried to bring this supreme court?


Everybody cares until they're 21. Then they can't be bothered.
 
2009-07-18 12:36:46 PM
Stupid stupid stupid.

/choosing to enforce the law
//drinking age here is 18
 
2009-07-18 12:38:06 PM

SphericalTime


Mongo cut wood:

Homophobic are we?


Uh, well, I'm gay, so not really. But the pattern is still there, and it's hilarious.



OH SNAP
 
2009-07-18 12:38:58 PM
this just in,

Cops, rich people and government connected high rollers think they are above the law.
 
2009-07-18 12:39:46 PM
bikkurikun: Did everybody ever try to fight these ridiculous drinking laws you have in the U.S? How can it be possible that you are considered an adult by law but are not yet deemed responsible enough to drink? Has anybody ever tried to bring this supreme court?

I believe states can fight it, but they won't get any federal highway money if they do. The fed wants the drinking age at 21, just like it wants cannabis to be illegal and on par to heroin. It's retarded.
But the law is still the law, even when it's a stupid/unjust law. Get caught and there are consequences. And at least the punishment for underage drinking is nowhere near what it is when you are caught with cannabis in some places so I can't get that worked up over it. At least they can drink legally when they eventually hit 21.
 
2009-07-18 12:42:39 PM
An underage drinking party? Wonder if the party was under age drinking themed. Hell I drank thousands of times as a teen, but we never got together for the express purpose of drinking, drinking was just an added bonus.

Kids these days...
 
2009-07-18 12:44:27 PM
bunner: this just in,

Cops, rich people and government connected high rollers think they are above the law.


This just in, teenagers have parties where they drink. If you host you can take the keys and keep an eye on things, if you don't, they don't stop, you just lose any possible control of the situation.

Also : everybody thinks they are above the law, why do you think so few bother changing it?
 
2009-07-18 12:45:54 PM
Steve Zodiac
Alcohol is a drug. A socially acceptable drug, but a drug none the less. Replace the booze in this story with marijuana and people would be up in arms about this (at least in Iowa).

I'm finding myself getting a kick out of this reply since as you can see I'm clearly up in arms about this marijuana in Iowa thing.


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Pic taking on the side of the road in Iowa when I was building ethanol plants out there,and no thats not a dobbie in my chomper either.Thats some nasty ragweed that is.
 
2009-07-18 12:57:40 PM
Haha, busted for underage drinking at 19.

Land of the free, indeed.
 
2009-07-18 01:01:53 PM
Iowa ditch weed is all over the damn place, especially in northern Iowa.

During WW II, farmers were encouraged to grow it for the hemp to produce rope for the navy. The motor home company my dad ran in the Seventies was in buildings that used to be an old hemp processing plant, so...
 
2009-07-18 01:10:06 PM
tortilla burger: useless without pics of the 19 year olds

With their shirts off for the guys, preferably.
 
2009-07-18 01:12:18 PM
Police showed up following a noise complaint, but the bonfire was 200 yards behind the house. Sounds like a fairly isolated site. Neighbor's probably all mad, cause he didn't get invited, thinking it was an adult party. I still think the law is stupid. Go away MADD, you bother me.
 
2009-07-18 01:20:30 PM
D_Evans45: An underage drinking party? Wonder if the party was under age drinking themed. Hell I drank thousands of times as a teen, but we never got together for the express purpose of drinking, drinking was just an added bonus.

Kids these days...


I grew up in Iowa, albeit in a small town instead of Des Moines. Nothing much to do out there but drink and have sex (if you were lucky.) Parties arranged for the express purpose of drinking were common. Much more common than any other type of party.
 
2009-07-18 01:21:08 PM
I don't care because underage drinking shouldn't be a crime.
 
2009-07-18 01:30:17 PM
Meh, where I'm from these kids would have already been binge alcoholics for a year or more.

But that's America for you, PUSSIES!
 
2009-07-18 01:32:37 PM
katrina_666: I believe states can fight it, but they won't get any federal highway money if they do.

Wow, I just looked into a bit more, that is truly bizarre. I found South-Dakota tried to fight it once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_v._Dole
 
2009-07-18 01:41:22 PM
Mongo cut wood: Homophobic are we?

Heh, white-knighting douche clearly did not check SphericalTime's profile.
 
2009-07-18 01:46:17 PM
LOTN: Also : everybody thinks they are above the law, why do you think so few bother changing it?

No, actually, the people who actually get into a position to flout it with impunity distract those hard working, law abiding types who would call them on it and bring them to task with a bit of the old "now, now... see, just play along, see, and I'll remember YOU were on my team. Here, no harm done. One day, if you play along, YOU will be able to nudge and wink your way out of sh*t like me!"

America runs on hierarchical douchebaggery, like some f*cking corn fed frat house.

Because we all allow for laws that we have no desire to live by and consider it a mark of social prestige to not have to. Because we're too greedy to see the benefits of EVERYBODY living by well made laws.

That's why.
 
2009-07-18 02:12:58 PM
cherrytaggert: Police showed up following a noise complaint, but the bonfire was 200 yards behind the house. Sounds like a fairly isolated site.

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