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2009-07-16 01:59:21 PM
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Approves.
 
2009-07-16 02:58:14 PM
Cop all around the country call that "business as usual"
 
2009-07-16 03:37:29 PM
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
 
2009-07-16 03:37:34 PM
Dude - your donut breath bugs...
 
2009-07-16 03:38:19 PM
oops
 
2009-07-16 03:39:33 PM
The DA says its perfectly legal because the person using the illegal wire tap thought it was legal. WTF?
 
2009-07-16 03:40:25 PM
What's that subby? You gettin' uppity?
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2009-07-16 03:41:19 PM
Whatever happened to "Ignorance of the law is no excuse"?
 
2009-07-16 03:41:28 PM

For four or five months, a microphone recorded conversations of civilian employees working inside the police department's records office without their knowledge.


That's crazy - how could they work there and not know it??


(watch those modifiers, people)
 
2009-07-16 03:42:35 PM
In Portsmouth ignorance of the law IS an excuse!
 
2009-07-16 03:44:43 PM
But if you record a cop arresting and beating a suspect it is interfering with a police investigation.
 
2009-07-16 03:44:51 PM
King Something: Approves.

Of all the pics of Sarah Palin, that one, for some reason, looks mighty fine...you betcha!
 
2009-07-16 03:45:24 PM
All cops should just be ground into hamburger.
 
2009-07-16 03:45:27 PM
Quit buggin' me!
 
2009-07-16 03:47:08 PM
Cop thread!
 
2009-07-16 03:48:34 PM
Watchbirds watching the watchbirds approve.
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2009-07-16 03:48:56 PM
Fark the police (new window) NSFW lyrics
 
2009-07-16 03:49:44 PM
I think that if you work in a Police Department or Courthouse setting you should EXPECT to be recorded and filmed in most areas of the building. Well, that and that cops are naturally deceptive and sneaky.
 
2009-07-16 03:51:16 PM
A triumphant success of checks and balances. Minus the checks and balances, and with a heaping serving of corruption.
 
2009-07-16 03:52:50 PM
oryxIn Portsmouth ignorance of the law IS an excuse!

I actually work in Portsmouth (on the Pease Tradeport, nothing to do with law enforcement) and am NOT getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2009-07-16 03:57:12 PM
Had a double-take on that headline.

Much more amusing when I thought it said buggered.
 
2009-07-16 04:00:47 PM
To all you haters, I know for a fact they did their investigation properly. They showed me the results of the lie detector test they ran on themselves.
 
2009-07-16 04:04:11 PM
ShawnDoc: The DA says its perfectly legal because the person using the illegal wire tap thought it was legal. WTF?

Best line in the article. What law is so weak that a person is guilty only if they thought that they were commiting a crime?
 
2009-07-16 04:07:27 PM
But the recordings were made with the belief that they were lawful, he concluded.

Ah, so that does work as a defense. If you're a cop.
 
2009-07-16 04:07:41 PM
There is a very good reason they call them pigs.
 
2009-07-16 04:15:20 PM
Cops conduct their own investigation? It says in the article that the prosecutors office conducted the investigation. Could subby actually think that the prosecutor's office is part of the police department?
 
2009-07-16 04:20:57 PM
CruiserTwelve: Cops conduct their own investigation? It says in the article that the prosecutors office conducted the investigation. Could subby actually think that the prosecutor's office is part of the police department?

/me raises hand
//not subby
 
2009-07-16 04:30:45 PM
Several months ago my Employer installed cameras in the store where I worked because he refused to believe us that sales were down because foot traffic was down. Way down.

He finally after several weeks of watching us realized we were telling the truth.

But then when he would see us working with customers in the store would call us in the middle of the sale to offer advice, with no real knowledge of what was going on.

On a few occasions he told us to put the customer on the phone with him.

The net result was every time he did this something would get screwed up in the sale. A couple of customers walked when they realized they were being watched like that.

Now he wants to install microphones so he can monitor how we are handling the customers. I am glad that 720 ILCS 5/ARTICLE 14. EAVESDROPPING (new window)won't let him. At least as far as I can tell from reading the statute.

It's just been one onerous mess
 
2009-07-16 04:31:35 PM
Russ1642: Best line in the article. What law is so weak that a person is guilty only if they thought that they were commiting a crime?

Any law that requires specific intent. The wiretapping law apparently requires that the person have intent to use the recording for unlawful purposes. Since that element of the crime didn't exist or couldn't be proven, there was no prosecutable violation of the law. That's what the prosecutor was saying.
 
2009-07-16 04:33:46 PM
ou-vont-les-cops.org

I wonder how will the badgelickers defend this one?
 
2009-07-16 04:46:47 PM
Russ1642: ShawnDoc: The DA says its perfectly legal because the person using the illegal wire tap thought it was legal. WTF?

Best line in the article. What law is so weak that a person is guilty only if they thought that they were commiting a crime?


As much as many of you don't like it, there is a reason why Cops are held in a different light, especially in circumstances like these.

Law enforcement has access to material / information that the public simply could not get, and wiretapping is one of them. So, because that is part of their job, if they did performed an act, however it was aganist the law, but no illegal intent can be proven, they should be excused of any wrong-doing.

The people that have a problem with this are the ones that would literally piss their pants if they were forced to give their strong-willed opinion to the Cops from this article = pussies.

I've heard enough, it's the same thing over and over again on Fark with cop threads. Always corruption, never the benefit of the doubt, and no logic put forth into arguments.

Justice served as far as i'm concerned. Much bigger fish to fry these days.
 
2009-07-16 04:49:55 PM
Giant Clown Shoe: I wonder how will the badgelickers defend this one?

Ah, using a Rush Limbaugh tactic. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a useless liberal. Now who wants to disagree with me?"

Here's what the article said: The police administration monitored the employees interactions with the public without telling them. The employees found out and complained. The prosecutor's office, an outside agany not affiliated with the police department, investigated and found that there was no violation of the law because the police administration had no intent to use the results of their monitoring for illegal purposes. The police administration changes its policy and will notify employees that they're being monitored in the future. Its essentially a non-story. Internal stuff that happens all the time in businesses.

But it gets greenlit on Fark because subby turns it into a cop-hater story. Even though it involves the police administration, some civilian employees of the police department and the prosecutors office, and a complaint about internal business practices, it becomes an example of how "all cops cover up for each others illegal acts." It's not even close to that.
 
2009-07-16 04:55:42 PM
OreJen: Whatever happened to "Ignorance of the law is no excuse"?

That only applies to your side of the 'thin blue line'.
 
2009-07-16 04:59:38 PM
PrinceOf Fark and CruiserTwelve:

Save your breath, twatwaffles. Of course it's all fine with you. You're pigs and so you think pigs should be able to do whatever they want. Big surprise there.

But it's scumbags like you that make the rest of us "pussies" do things that make you all butthurt - like pointing out that you're lying sacks of shiat and calling you pigs.

Do us all a favor and take two for the team. Pretty please.
 
2009-07-16 05:02:15 PM
CruiserTwelve: Giant Clown Shoe: I wonder how will the badgelickers defend this one?

Ah, using a Rush Limbaugh tactic. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a useless liberal. Now who wants to disagree with me?"

Here's what the article said: The police administration monitored the employees interactions with the public without telling them. The employees found out and complained. The prosecutor's office, an outside agany not affiliated with the police department, investigated and found that there was no violation of the law because the police administration had no intent to use the results of their monitoring for illegal purposes. The police administration changes its policy and will notify employees that they're being monitored in the future. Its essentially a non-story. Internal stuff that happens all the time in businesses.

But it gets greenlit on Fark because subby turns it into a cop-hater story. Even though it involves the police administration, some civilian employees of the police department and the prosecutors office, and a complaint about internal business practices, it becomes an example of how "all cops cover up for each others illegal acts." It's not even close to that.


I don't listen to conservative radio so I don't know the "tactics". There was a point where it was funny, then it was scary and now it's just played out. It's just a bunch of bad losers shouting at the rain.

I just wanted to post the pic, use badgelicker and fan the flames. I didn't even read the article.

/I'll be back later to read the fun.
//only two kinds of cops- dirty cops and cops that allow dirty cops to get away with it.
///cops lie
////type away badgewearers and badgelickers
 
2009-07-16 05:02:41 PM
punkhippie: PrinceOf Fark and CruiserTwelve:

Save your breath, twatwaffles. Of course it's all fine with you. You're pigs and so you think pigs should be able to do whatever they want. Big surprise there.

But it's scumbags like you that make the rest of us "pussies" do things that make you all butthurt - like pointing out that you're lying sacks of shiat and calling you pigs.

Do us all a favor and take two for the team. Pretty please.


Wow, you've totally refuted the entire contents of my post with that one. You must be some kind of genius.
 
2009-07-16 05:13:43 PM
punkhippie: Save your breath, twatwaffles. Of course it's all fine with you. You're pigs and so you think pigs should be able to do whatever they want. Big surprise there.

But it's scumbags like you that make the rest of us "pussies" do things that make you all butthurt - like pointing out that you're lying sacks of shiat and calling you pigs.


Okay, even though your post is undeserving of a rational response, I'll provide one.

If you are of the belief that cops routinely violate the law and cover for each other when such violation comes to light, there are often news articles about incidents that might support your belief. This article does not. It was a routine complaint about an internal business practice, it was investigated by the agency that's charged with the responsibility of investigating criminal complaints, and it was found that no laws were violated. The police administration recognized that their business practice was making their employees uncomfortable, so they changed the practice. It's a non-story that does not support the Fark headline that was attached to it, and does not support your belief about cops.
 
2009-07-16 05:14:19 PM
But did they use interceptors, only to find out they've been ghost hacked by the Laughing Man?
 
2009-07-16 05:18:19 PM
www.ratemyeverything.net

dumbass
 
2009-07-16 05:23:07 PM
Giant Clown Shoe: I just wanted to post the pic, use badgelicker and fan the flames. I didn't even read the article.

So you admit that you formed an opinion based on preconceptions and a lack of knowledge of the subject. There's a name for that.

/I'll be back later to read the fun.
//only two kinds of cops- dirty cops and cops that allow dirty cops to get away with it.
///cops lie
////type away badgewearers and badgelickers


After I point out the invalidity of your tactic, you use it again.

Why bother coming back here? Nothing that is said will sway your opinion of cops in any way. You decry talk radio as "a bunch of bad loser shouting at the rain." Why then do you feel compelled to come back here and shout at the rain?
 
2009-07-16 05:46:04 PM
Now let me put my tongue in YARMOUTH!
 
2009-07-16 06:00:46 PM
CruiserTwelve: Cops conduct their own investigation? It says in the article that the prosecutors office conducted the investigation. Could subby actually think that the prosecutor's office is part of the police department?

The article says "After reviewing a Police Department internal investigation report...", meaning he based his findings (at least in part) on the police departments own findings.
 
2009-07-16 08:12:17 PM
cops and prosecutors have been in cahoots since day one. It is all about winning the case and absolutely nothing to do with justice.
 
2009-07-16 08:27:08 PM
After considerable experience with this particular organization it is my considered opinion that they more closely resemble a cult than a legitimate police department.

/just sayin'
 
2009-07-16 08:50:24 PM
I mis-read the headline as "bugger" and it was much funnier
 
2009-07-16 09:34:35 PM
PrinceofFark: ?



10/10 A perfect troll.
 
2009-07-16 10:23:29 PM
More fuel for the fire...the cop-killing fire. :)D

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PS fuq (=fark YOU).
 
2009-07-16 10:36:45 PM
Quite frankly, as city employees can be pains in the butt to work with (as a customer/citizen), I think it's fantastic that their interactions would be recorded. Let their bosses hear how they deal with the people who pay their salaries.
 
2009-07-16 10:37:25 PM
fredklein: The article says "After reviewing a Police Department internal investigation report...", meaning he based his findings (at least in part) on the police departments own findings.

They would be idiots if they didn't begin their investigation by reading the police reports to find out the facts of the case. Presumably those reports would contain statements from the witnesses and victims. If there are any questions or areas that were not investigated properly or thoroughly, the prosecutor's officer has investigators to follow up and/or conduct their own investigation. The prosecutor then applies the law to the facts of the case to determine if any laws were violated. In this case they determined that there were not. It appears the police administration determined that their policy was faulty, so they changed the policy. That's exactly how it's supposed to work.
 
2009-07-17 11:23:46 AM
CruiserTwelve: fredklein: The article says "After reviewing a Police Department internal investigation report...", meaning he based his findings (at least in part) on the police departments own findings.

They would be idiots if they didn't begin their investigation by reading the police reports to find out the facts of the case. Presumably those reports would contain statements from the witnesses and victims.


Presumably, in a Free Country, you don't have cops breaking the violating people's Rights by spying on them. Oops, 'presuming' isn't always accurate.

If there are any questions or areas that were not investigated properly or thoroughly, the prosecutor's officer has investigators to follow up and/or conduct their own investigation.

Kinda hard to follow up on things you don't know about, because they were left out of the report to begin with. Not that cops lie or leave things out of their reports. Sure, they spy on people, but they never, ever lie.

The prosecutor then applies the law to the facts of the case to determine if any laws were violated.

If only it were that simple. Prosecutors are people too, with likes, dislikes, and 'politics' to deal with. If a prosecutor pisses of the cops (like maybe by saying they broke the law), what happens to him? Next time he's doing 56 in a 55, he gets pulled over. Next time he steps off the sidewalk , :boom:, jaywalking ticket. Etc. It's happened before.

It appears the police administration determined that their policy was faulty, so they changed the policy. That's exactly how it's supposed to work.

No- someone is supposed to review policies BEFORE they are put into place. Otherwise, it's a case of 'make everything illegal, and wait for people to challenge the laws one-by-one'.
 
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