Arxane: You call that offensive? Pah!

Down here in Florida, as I was driving up Orange Blossom Trail, I saw a billboard that had a clear picture of the World Trade Center being struck by an airplane. The short, non-offensive message accompanying this non-political image?

"Don't elect a Democrat."

Florida is the only place I've visited in the South (and I'm from the South and have traveled all over its trash expanse) that had racist bumper stickers, T-shirts, mugs, etc for sale.

savage henry: FloydA: I have to ask, what counts as a "militant" atheist?

Oh yeah, prepare to wait on this.

A billboard with a pic of an uncircumcized penis that said "Imagine a world with no religion" would be pretty funny and provoke just as rational of a discussion too.

/I have a better idea. Imagine a world where no one discusses religion.


//What a wonderful world it would be.

bberg: >/troll_feed_mode>

Goddamn it. I suck at <

Religion is all bullshiat, and religion (superstition in general actually) has motivated people to do all kinds of atrocities. But the religious also do things like feed the homeless and starving at home and abroad, and look after people who are otherwise farked. I'm an atheist, and I don't do any of these things.
Can anyone really say with any certainty that the religious or atheists are, on the whole, any more bad or good than the other? I can't.

Didn't someone write a book about the "backlash industry" Basically no one is really upset about these things they just act that way so they have an excuse to ask for more money. Megachurches aren't going to build themselves you know.

bberg: Sabyen91: Nobody is going to laugh when they are dead. Because that takes lungs.

Now now, dead people still have lungs before they've decayed too much. What the dead actually lack are the electrical impulses which cause the diaphragm to expand and contract, pulling air into and forcing air out of the lungs.

What people on this thread lack are the brains to realize a troll when they see it - though some may just be meta-trolling.


Poe's Law is powerful.

ScottHimself: meat0918:

I would start with the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl, but the Spanish destroyed the heathens in the name of god and gold.

One down.

Next is the Southern Baptists, because there is no way the god they worship is the same god that fathered Jesus AND was the wrathful smiter in the OT.

It's like God respec'd Holy after being Shadow to level.

Submitted for your approval, the thought that without god/religion keeping them in line, (under the fear of eternal damnation) the hordes of people who would have previously been believers (as there is "now" nothing for them to believe in. Would turn into amoral monsters killing everything in sight.

So, can we not conclude that there are some of the faithful that therefore consider some other members of the "faithful" one crisis of faith away form being serial murders?

bberg: ScottHimself: YOU only live once.

<troll_feed_mode=on>
Provide a logically consistent argument for the existence of God or the afterlife, or STFU and GTFO.
>/troll_feed_mode>

I'm not going to approach an insulting, snide remark as a potential discussion. Sorry.

queenb4biatch:
This is why we can't have nice intelligent discussions...the butthurt, it burns...

Cock of Christ, given to you.

Lenny_da_Hog: Easiest solution: Ban Billboards.

/ugly blight, anyway.

This is the sort of agreeable idea that would get the Jews and Arabs to behave like good Christian gentlemen.

muck4doo: eddiesocket: Kurmudgeon: And if it had said, "Imagine No Atheism", I'm sure you fine folks here on Fark wouldn't have complained one bit, right?
A portion of a whole message board, just lathering to find offense. Sad to think Fark has come to this. If you were so secure in your disbelief, what others believed wouldn't matter to you.

There are literally tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of billboards that are religious in nature throughout the US. Guess what? NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THEM. It's only the Jesus freaks who can't handle a contrary viewpoint.

Good thing no one ever complains about the religious ones either.

Huh? I know; no one does. That was my point.

whidbey: muck4doo: There's a lot of truth in all religions. It's the deciphering where things get silly.

If people would just realize that we were genetically engineered and brought here to mine gold, and that religion is just a COVER for all that...

Sheesh.

Shut it. You're going to piss everyone off once they get a clue Obama is really a lizard.

spamdog: But the religious also do things like feed the homeless and starving at home and abroad, and look after people who are otherwise farked. I'm an atheist, and I don't do any of these things.

You certainly could, if you decided to.

Charity and altruism do not need religion in order to exist.

Sabyen91: Poe's Law is powerful.

I don't imagine Poe's Law applies in this case because the troll in question makes no arguments and does not reply to any criticism except to spit out one-liners to draw more bites.

If it actually responded to people and their arguments I can see a case being made for Poe's Law. But this troll isn't even presenting an argument - it's just being a moran.

Wagnerian Omnibus: Sabyen91: Nobody is sanctimonious/condescending here. We have these billboards in Wisconsin. I am assuming most of the country have these hell billboards and assuming most people have seen them. I apologize if that is not the case.

To hopefully clear this up, I was never talking specifically about the "hell" billboards; as I said, I'd tend to agree with you if that's the comparison. I'm just saying that I can't equate the sentiment in "Imagine No Religion" with that of some of the more benign "God" billboards I've seen.

I guess what it comes down to is that I'm basically calling this "free-thinking" gang a bunch of schmucks who are just as bad as the drafters of the "hell" billboards, and worse than those who design the preachy but not attack-y billboards.

/sorry for making up my own words

You say you weren't saying a certain thing and then come out and say that these "free-thinkers" are just as bad as the hell creeps. I don't understand that. What these guys had on the billboards is hardly offensive. Only the professionally offended like muck4doo would spaz out about this.

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Cock of Christ, given to you.

And as long as you use lube, the butthurt doesn't burn...

So if I put that in my mouth, will it do the same thing that the crackers and wine are supposed to do if your Catholic...

eddiesocket: muck4doo: eddiesocket: Kurmudgeon: And if it had said, "Imagine No Atheism", I'm sure you fine folks here on Fark wouldn't have complained one bit, right?
A portion of a whole message board, just lathering to find offense. Sad to think Fark has come to this. If you were so secure in your disbelief, what others believed wouldn't matter to you.

There are literally tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of billboards that are religious in nature throughout the US. Guess what? NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THEM. It's only the Jesus freaks who can't handle a contrary viewpoint.

Good thing no one ever complains about the religious ones either.

Huh? I know; no one does. That was my point.

LOL! Okay.

Relatively Obscure: AmazingRuss: If fear of divine retribution is the only thing making you behave, you are not a good person, you are an evil person, and your god is your warden.

Many religious people would acknowledge this to be true. Many Christians consider humans to be evil from day one.

If that is the case, you'd think they wouldn't be so hot to crowd the world with more evil humans.

All right. So I'm supposed to hate extra-terrestrials, muppets, PETA, and skanky singer chicks. Easy. I can do that.

I get in trouble when I start thinking. Gosh, I hope I don't mess this hate thing up.

ScottHimself: ridiculous mythologies

You got a guy who walks on water, heals lepers with a touch and comes back from the dead after three days and you're claiming their religions are ridiculous?


dude, you got a plank in your eye.

ScottHimself: meat0918:
Can you quote where he smites Thor, Ra, Set, Vishnu, Coyote, Old Woman, Gaia, Chronos, Odin, Allah, Shiva, Xenu, Yoruba, The Loa, Quetzalcoatl, Kon, Bobbi-Bobbi, Cernunnos, Epona, Ceroklis, etc. etc. etc.

If you'll first quote the verse wherein a group of believers in those ridiculous mythologies made a challenge to God.

What makes them ridiculous?

RemyDuron: You've never seen attack billboards? "HELL IS REAL!" with Hell written in big fiery letters?

Honestly, no. I guess I'm lucky that way. Not saying they don't exist or aren't just as offensive as "Imagine No Religion," because I'm sure they do and they most definitely are. But I have seen plenty of more benign God-related messages, so I'm trying to point out the folly in equating all "God" messages with this faux-"free-thinking" crap.

ScottHimself: bberg: ScottHimself: YOU only live once.

<troll_feed_mode=on>
Provide a logically consistent argument for the existence of God or the afterlife, or STFU and GTFO.
>/troll_feed_mode>

I'm not going to approach an insulting, snide remark as a potential discussion. Sorry.

You reap what you sow. What exactly makes all the deities you named any more "ridiculous" than the one you apparently believe in? And how stupid do you have to be not to realize the best you can hope for is snide remarks when you hold your own ridiculous beliefs up on a pedestal while ridiculing others?

I don't mind most Christians, but if you're too stupid to take a look in the mirror once in a while and realize you believe in things that are just as stupid and irrational as other faiths, don't expect people to throw you a pity party, Scotty.

TheShavingofOccam123: All right. So I'm supposed to hate extra-terrestrials, muppets, PETA, and skanky singer chicks. Easy. I can do that.

I get in trouble when I start thinking. Gosh, I hope I don't mess this hate thing up.

As long as you don't start thinking, you'll be just fine, Citizen...

bberg: Sabyen91: Poe's Law is powerful.

I don't imagine Poe's Law applies in this case because the troll in question makes no arguments and does not reply to any criticism except to spit out one-liners to draw more bites.

If it actually responded to people and their arguments I can see a case being made for Poe's Law. But this troll isn't even presenting an argument - it's just being a moran.

Poe's Law certainly does apply with trolls with no good arguments. That is why there is a Poe's Law.

TheShavingofOccam123: All right. So I'm supposed to hate extra-terrestrials, muppets, PETA, and skanky singer chicks. Easy. I can do that.

I get in trouble when I start thinking. Gosh, I hope I don't mess this hate thing up.

Muppets and E.T.'s are still up in the air. The others we know are evil.

madblader: It's not hard to imagine, it looks something like this.

That's beautiful

Not even as a child religion made sense, still doesn't, I don't understand how people claim their is a god because we don't understand stuff.

So basically they're saying that god exists because the universe (or world) is very complex. So the existence of complex things (well, to our simian brain) means there is a god, okay...

And as time passes and we make new discoveries the Church is predictable in it's statements. At first it's like "No that's wrong, and you're wrong" then "Don't believe them, it's just a test from God" and ultimately "Yes, god made it that way because he wanted us to learn it's beauty"

I'm really sick of all this support for anti-intellectualism, I hope all religions goes away, but for that to happen all the genetically inferior humans must go away first.

ScottHimself: those ridiculous mythologies

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

Wagnerian Omnibus: RemyDuron: You've never seen attack billboards? "HELL IS REAL!" with Hell written in big fiery letters?

Honestly, no. I guess I'm lucky that way. Not saying they don't exist or aren't just as offensive as "Imagine No Religion," because I'm sure they do and they most definitely are. But I have seen plenty of more benign God-related messages, so I'm trying to point out the folly in equating all "God" messages with this faux-"free-thinking" crap.

In what possible way is "Imagine No Religion" offensive? You know, other than "I don't agree".

Lamar doesn't seem to mind advertising various adult stores along I-70 in MO -- everything from lingerie to "novelty and video" stores.

IIRC they're also the owners of the billboard currently hosting the giant green and white "JESUS" billboard and the white-text-on-black background "blah blah blah - God" billboards along I-44 in MO.

EL_FABREZ: img505.imageshack.us

The Aristocrats!

MorganFreeman:

You reap what you sow. What exactly makes all the deities you named any more "ridiculous" than the one you apparently believe in? And how stupid do you have to be not to realize the best you can hope for is snide remarks when you hold your own ridiculous beliefs up on a pedestal while ridiculing others?

I don't mind most Christians, but if you're too stupid to take a look in the mirror once in a while and realize you believe in things that are just as stupid and irrational as other faiths, don't expect people to throw you a pity party, Scotty.

Okay, give me a religion that you would like compared to Christianity. Pick one.

Sabyen91: Poe's Law certainly does apply with trolls with no good arguments. That is why there is a Poe's Law.

No good arguments, yes. But this thing doesn't even present AN argument.

rohar: ScottHimself: meat0918:
Can you quote where he smites Thor, Ra, Set, Vishnu, Coyote, Old Woman, Gaia, Chronos, Odin, Allah, Shiva, Xenu, Yoruba, The Loa, Quetzalcoatl, Kon, Bobbi-Bobbi, Cernunnos, Epona, Ceroklis, etc. etc. etc.

If you'll first quote the verse wherein a group of believers in those ridiculous mythologies made a challenge to God.

What makes them ridiculous?

They believe in a few more gods than he does, while I believe in one less god than he does? (well three in one less gods, but the triune is a little tricky)

//As of late I've noticed I'm really failing at my usual "don't be a dick online" policy

joe8122: The guy from Lamar said the billboard was offensive and refused to let his company put it up. I wonder how many "Jesus is Lord" or church billboards Lamar has put up?

Not to mention Cafe Risque in FL... I'm almost 100% sure those are LAMAR brand billboards.

madblader: I hope all religions goes away, but for that to happen all the genetically inferior humans must go away first.

lulz. "I wish everyone who disagrees with me would drop dead"

joe8122:
I have no clue. Only thing I can think of is that Christians can get all upset when someone dares voice an opinion or set of beliefs different from their own.

My friend thought about getting a T-shirt with "Stop putting words in my mouth. --God on it...

I wish the Founders had been more explicit, and added to the first amendment: "You do not have the right to not be offended."

madblader: Not even as a child religion made sense, still doesn't, I don't understand how people claim their is a god because we don't understand stuff.

So basically they're saying that god exists because the universe (or world) is very complex. So the existence of complex things (well, to our simian brain) means there is a god, okay...

And as time passes and we make new discoveries the Church is predictable in it's statements. At first it's like "No that's wrong, and you're wrong" then "Don't believe them, it's just a test from God" and ultimately "Yes, god made it that way because he wanted us to learn it's beauty"

I'm really sick of all this support for anti-intellectualism, I hope all religions goes away, but for that to happen all the genetically inferior humans must go away first.

You know who else....

bberg: Sabyen91: Poe's Law certainly does apply with trolls with no good arguments. That is why there is a Poe's Law.

No good arguments, yes. But this thing doesn't even present AN argument.

Poe's Law could merely state there are such people out there who don't present arguments, just scowl like Dick Cheney and dig their heels in deeper to their busted worldview...

EL FABREZ, beautiful. Circular logic with self-affirming fantasy is awesome.