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(Boston Herald)   A man complains that the dog in your car is menacing passers-by - Do you a) restrain your dog , b) say "that's not my dog" and walk away , or c) kill him with a sucker punch to the head?   (news.bostonherald.com) divider line 227
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2009-07-13 09:24:12 PM
Somaticasual: Media sources generally do that to avoid the lawsuits that would normally result from them being wrong..

I know that's why they do it.

But, they did it wrong in this case.

He wasn't allegedly punched. He was punched.

They can say that he was punched, allegedly by the guy in the article.

If they're going to engage in their legal wordplay, at least get it right.
 
2009-07-13 09:24:16 PM
Haplo127x: Tatsumaki Senpuu-Kyaku!: My friend's brother is currently serving time for manslaughter for a very similar incident. Well, there was no dog involved, but a drunken argument that got out of control and another guy dying after a single punch to the head. Although the other guy arguably 'started it', my friend's brother, having a history of being a drunk, aggressive douchebag, got the book thrown at him.

The moral of the story? Uh... I suppose, as much as someone may deserve a sucker punch - don't do it, it's not worth potentially spending half your adult life in prison for.

Really? The moral I got from that story was not to be a drunk, aggressive douchebag and go about punching people in the head.


That too I suppose
 
2009-07-13 09:27:23 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: To be fair, you were coming off like a total ITG.

Since when is saying that you avoid getting into fights because of the possible negative repercussions being an "internet tough guy"??
 
2009-07-13 09:27:56 PM
SchlingFocker: Somaticasual: Media sources generally do that to avoid the lawsuits that would normally result from them being wrong..

I know that's why they do it.

But, they did it wrong in this case.

He wasn't allegedly punched. He was punched.

They can say that he was punched, allegedly by the guy in the article.

If they're going to engage in their legal wordplay, at least get it right.


Fair enough, just couldn't help the fact-snarking
 
2009-07-13 09:29:24 PM
SchlingFocker: Since when is saying that you avoid getting into fights because of the possible negative repercussions being an "internet tough guy"??

Since you imply that your prime fear is that your punch is so discombobulatingly devastating that you fear massive imprisonment for the inadvertant manslaughter which is the result of your presumed superhuman strength.
 
2009-07-13 09:30:06 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: Adingo8mybb: ...you should expect that stranger MIGHT react badly. If you are engaged in an altercation or argument with a stranger, you have to accept that anything violent might happen.

I think the article said he "confronted" the guy... of course we don't know how he did that.

If he said, "Yo farkwad, your dog barks very homosexually" then you may be right. But if he said, "excuse me sir, your dog may need to be restrained more properly" then he was sucker punched.



/well, it WAS a German Shepherd, we all know what closet cases those Nazis were.

//also there's this, from yet another article on the subject:

"He never had a chance. It wasn't a push comes to shove, it was just finger to the chest and hauled off and cracked him in the face," Donna Cherry said.

Considering that there is an obvious omission of a noun or a pronoun before the word: hauled, it might actually mean that Mr. Cherry poked the dog owner in the chest, FIRST. That's an assault and McGunigle is entitled to defend himself.
 
2009-07-13 09:30:36 PM
I agree with you: Soymilk
Why is it that dog threads bring out the worst in farkers? Name calling, stupid threats, and all kinds of internet tough-guy stuff.
---------------------------------

Cause people are taking up for there lil snowflakes like there children,,,,you've seen bratty kids runnin wild in the store isle screaming and hollering at top of there lil lungs, everyone can hear em, except the poor excuse for a parent that turns em loose in public...same but different


Your post gives me a headache.

there = opposite of here
their = belonging to them
they're = contraction of "they are"
 
2009-07-13 09:31:58 PM
havaniceday:

/and I'll kick a dogs ass if need be
.


me too. i love dogs, obviously, but let one come at me and corner me or something. i will start kickin'.
 
2009-07-13 09:32:38 PM
Gyrfalcon: He better hope the cops get him before any Marines do.

I don't know, it doesn't seem like the Marines have a good track record with this guy.
 
2009-07-13 09:33:14 PM
We're missing the humor of the whole thing, folks! Marine gets clocked by some dog owner coming out of Starbucks.

The point to this whole sordid tale should get neatly wrapped up by acknowleging that barking dogs, beeping horns, and noisy kids can catch us off guard and really fray some nerves. Take a few moments to evaluate the situation and determine: was there collateral damage? Was there a real threat or just a sudden annoyance.

If a real public hazard- not just a scary bark-- call the proper authority to handle the situaution. Don't think the owner to be any more stable then his dog.

If you just crapped your pants because of a sudden noise but no further threat is posed. Laugh it off and move on.

I've had numerous dogs 'hit the glass' while walking thru the parking lot. I've never considered it to be more then dogs being trueto their nature and advise my kids never attempt to pet a dog stuck in a car no matter how cute he appears. I did that ONCE as a kid- my dad decided I had learned my lesson for the day- no further reminders needed in backing that lesson up.

Re: people with weak hearts and capable of dying from noise induced fright- Need we sound proof the World for their convenience? If the barking dog doesn't kill 'em, the dropped platter in the resturant, back firing truck, or a clap of thunder will. -1 for even attempting to try to pin that one on a dog in a car.

People need pay more attention to their immediate environment rather then blame others for their inattentiveness. More attention = less surprises = less frayed nerves for all.
 
2009-07-13 09:33:20 PM
Guess that'll teach people to mind their own farking business.
 
2009-07-13 09:34:02 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: Since you imply that your prime fear is that your punch is so discombobulatingly devastating that you fear massive imprisonment for the inadvertant manslaughter which is the result of your presumed superhuman strength.

It doesn't take much to knock someone down when you hit them. It doesn't take much force to the head if they hit the ground to do serious damage.

He wasn't making boasts of strength. He was acknowledging the very real fact that it's easy, and more common than one would think, for someone to be seriously injured in a simple fight.
 
2009-07-13 09:35:47 PM
Adingo8mybb: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Adingo8mybb: ...you should expect that stranger MIGHT react badly. If you are engaged in an altercation or argument with a stranger, you have to accept that anything violent might happen.

I think the article said he "confronted" the guy... of course we don't know how he did that.

If he said, "Yo farkwad, your dog barks very homosexually" then you may be right. But if he said, "excuse me sir, your dog may need to be restrained more properly" then he was sucker punched.


/well, it WAS a German Shepherd, we all know what closet cases those Nazis were.

//also there's this, from yet another article on the subject:

"He never had a chance. It wasn't a push comes to shove, it was just finger to the chest and hauled off and cracked him in the face," Donna Cherry said.

Considering that there is an obvious omission of a noun or a pronoun before the word: hauled, it might actually mean that Mr. Cherry poked the dog owner in the chest, FIRST. That's an assault and McGunigle is entitled to defend himself.


I'd say it's almost certain, the "Oh-so-honorable" Marine initiated the argument, initiated the fight by establishing physical contact and got the hell knocked out of him rightfully. Too bad he couldn't keep his hands to himself.
 
2009-07-13 09:37:49 PM
We're missing the humor of the whole thing, folks! Marine gets clocked by some dog owner coming out of Starbucks.

The point to this whole sordid tale should get neatly wrapped up by acknowleging that barking dogs, beeping horns, and noisy kids can catch us off guard and really fray some nerves. Take a few moments to evaluate the situation and determine: was there collateral damage? Was there a real threat or just a sudden annoyance.

If a real public hazard- not just a scary bark-- call the proper authority to handle the situaution. Don't think the owner to be any more stable then his dog.

If you just crapped your pants because of a sudden noise but no further threat is posed. Laugh it off and move on.

I've had numerous dogs 'hit the glass' while walking thru the parking lot. I've never considered it to be more then dogs being trueto their nature and advise my kids never attempt to pet a dog stuck in a car no matter how cute he appears. I did that ONCE as a kid- my dad decided I had learned my lesson for the day- no further reminders needed in backing that lesson up.

Re: people with weak hearts and capable of dying from noise induced fright- Need we sound proof the World for their convenience? If the barking dog doesn't kill 'em, the dropped platter in the resturant, back firing truck, or a clap of thunder will. -1 for even attempting to try to pin that one on a dog in a car.

People need pay more attention to their immediate environment rather then blame others for their inattentiveness. More attention = less surprises = less frayed nerves for all.


clowncar wins for most sensible post of the day. What is it you long-time Farkers say? +1 interwebs?
 
2009-07-13 09:50:25 PM
doglover: The dead guy was a Marine. A GODS DAMNED MARINE! They're not supposed to die of a punch to the head at 18 or 80!

When you get struck in the side of the head, or on the jaw, when you dont know its coming, guess what? You are going to sleep if the puncher has any power at all. Combine that with hitting your head on the sidewalk and all sorts of bad things happen, such as brain swelling, brain damage, ect...

Watch some MMA sometime, guys who take punches for a living go face down with a shot to the head that they are expecting.
 
2009-07-13 09:51:25 PM
doglover: Seriously are there no pet owners left in the world? All dogs bark when you get near their car.

No, no they dont.
 
2009-07-13 09:53:11 PM
i702.photobucket.com

Lily

all 10lbs of her.

/fark all the dog haters
 
2009-07-13 09:58:41 PM
In my opinion the marine was a bit soft-headed.
 
2009-07-13 09:59:05 PM
jafiwam: Here is a photo of the penis-replacement-dog-owner. Typical thick-skulled dog retard with a jar of peanut butter in his back pocket.

Dude looks like the kind of guy I avoid... 200+ pounds of testosterone, 3 brain cells.
 
2009-07-13 09:59:42 PM
beware of dog owner

/chaaaaaarlie murphy!
 
2009-07-13 09:59:56 PM
He never had a chance. It wasn't a push comes to shove, it was just finger to the chest and hauled off and cracked him in the face," Donna Cherry said.

While not as devastating as a sucker punch, certainly not the perscribed method for defusing an otherwise emotional situation.

Unless you believe you are poking a totally passive personality in the chest in some testicular act of dominance resulting total compliance and submissive behavior on the pokee's part, this method has more often proven to be a timeless classic in provocative method for eliciting both a blind and violent response. Too bad the sucker never saw it coming.
 
2009-07-13 10:07:57 PM
guyinjeep16: doglover: Seriously are there no pet owners left in the world? All dogs bark when you get near their car.

No, no they dont.


They should.
 
2009-07-13 10:15:58 PM
Semper Fido
 
2009-07-13 10:18:36 PM
UFC! UFC! UFC!

YEAAAAAAHHHHGGGH!
 
2009-07-13 10:19:29 PM
headcrack: Semper Fido

/thread over
//bravo
 
2009-07-13 10:20:12 PM
I'm The Foot Farking Master: 100 Watt Walrus: Ooops. Quoted the wrong farker name. NightOwl2255 is right about Santadog's dog.

There is no reason in the world why anyone should have to put up with the bad behavior of your dog unless that "anyone" is a threat.

I've never understood why morons like yourself are afraid of a dog protecting its space INSIDE a car. Is the bark too menacing from a 35 pound Blue Healer or are you afraid of everything? Do you call 911 when the Jehovas Witnesses knock on your door?
Don't worry, you will never get punched by a dog owner if you are too busy cowering and wetting yourself.

/You farking weenie


Everything is somebody else's fault, isn't it?

"It's not my dog barking unnecessarily that's the problem. It's the people who come back to their car and are startled when he starts barking and snarling at them - they're the problem, those damn people minding their own business and walking too close to my dog because they didn't know he was there. Fark them. They should have parked somewhere else.

If you don't like my dog jumping up the fence in my front yard and barking at you for no reason, you shouldn't walk down the sidewalk on my side of the street, either. It's not my fault my dog can't tell the difference between someone walking by and someone coming into the yard. It's way too much trouble to train my dog to not go apeshiat without cause. If my neighbors don't like it, they can move.

And while I'm at it, I've never understood why morons like yourself have to make such a big deal about me playing my stereo at full volume all the time. That's YOUR problem. If you don't like my music, get earplugs.

And you know what? If you don't like the way I weave in and out of traffic, stay off the road.

The things I do without regard for other people are their problem, not mine. I am in no way responsible for my own actions or the actions of my dog, or my young children while we're on the subject. You don't like them screaming their heads off in Wal-Mart? Shop somewhere else. It's not my problem.

I live in a bubble."

/Ever notice how some other dogs DON'T bark when people approach the adjacent car. I wonder what THOSE dog owners are doing wrong.
 
2009-07-13 10:20:21 PM
Punchy McGonigle's farked, no matter how ya slice it.

If he's found guilty of manslaughter, he goes to prison = FARKED
If he's acquitted, the dead Marine probably had buddies (and from what I understand about the Corps, you look out for your buddies) = seriously FARKED

/ and nobody will ever be able to prove a thing
// it'll look like either accident or suicide
 
2009-07-13 10:20:25 PM
It is unfortunate that so many people feel like the marine should've minded his own business despite the fact he was not the only person that found the barking dog to be a public nuisance. While I would usually agree that one should mind one's own business, fire-punching someone because they said you need to get your dog under control is going too far. But at the same time, if the guy didn't die and wasn't seriously injured, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this because stuff like this is exactly why you don't fool around some random stranger that may be a pyschopath because this might happen:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-07-13 10:21:46 PM
Clearly he just needed to release the bogus(pops).
 
2009-07-13 10:25:51 PM
clowncar on fire: Unless you believe you are poking a totally passive personality in the chest in some testicular act of dominance resulting total compliance and submissive behavior on the pokee's part, this method has more often proven to be a timeless classic in provocative method for eliciting both a blind and violent response. Too bad the sucker never saw it coming.

NO 3 O'clock High references?

/leaves sad
 
2009-07-13 10:26:31 PM
All dogs farking suck.
 
2009-07-13 10:26:56 PM
syzygy whizz: Punchy McGonigle's farked, no matter how ya slice it.

If he's found guilty of manslaughter, he goes to prison = FARKED
If he's acquitted, the dead Marine probably had buddies (and from what I understand about the Corps, you look out for your buddies) = seriously FARKED

/ and nobody will ever be able to prove a thing
// it'll look like either accident or suicide


and if you do prove anything, they are protected by the knights templar!
 
2009-07-13 10:29:11 PM
Adingo8mybb: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Adingo8mybb: ...you should expect that stranger MIGHT react badly. If you are engaged in an altercation or argument with a stranger, you have to accept that anything violent might happen.

I think the article said he "confronted" the guy... of course we don't know how he did that.

If he said, "Yo farkwad, your dog barks very homosexually" then you may be right. But if he said, "excuse me sir, your dog may need to be restrained more properly" then he was sucker punched.


/well, it WAS a German Shepherd, we all know what closet cases those Nazis were.

//also there's this, from yet another article on the subject:

"He never had a chance. It wasn't a push comes to shove, it was just finger to the chest and hauled off and cracked him in the face," Donna Cherry said.

Considering that there is an obvious omission of a noun or a pronoun before the word: hauled, it might actually mean that Mr. Cherry poked the dog owner in the chest, FIRST. That's an assault and McGunigle is entitled to defend himself.


Seriously, has this "angrily poke someone in the chest with ones finger" motion ever resulted in the poker not immediately getting their clock cleaned?

What does one hope to achieve with this poke? "Oh, yeah, you're totally right, I'll calm down now."?

I wouldn't go as far as to call it "assault", but it's definitely crossing a line.

And yeah, everyone in TFA sounds like a real winner.
 
2009-07-13 10:30:58 PM
Tatsumaki Senpuu-Kyaku!: I wouldn't go as far as to call it "assault", but it's definitely crossing a line.

In Massachusetts assault is defined as "an unwanted touch" - plain and simple
 
2009-07-13 10:33:40 PM
Tatsumaki Senpuu-Kyaku!: Adingo8mybb: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Adingo8mybb: ...you should expect that stranger MIGHT react badly. If you are engaged in an altercation or argument with a stranger, you have to accept that anything violent might happen.

I think the article said he "confronted" the guy... of course we don't know how he did that.

If he said, "Yo farkwad, your dog barks very homosexually" then you may be right. But if he said, "excuse me sir, your dog may need to be restrained more properly" then he was sucker punched.


/well, it WAS a German Shepherd, we all know what closet cases those Nazis were.

//also there's this, from yet another article on the subject:

"He never had a chance. It wasn't a push comes to shove, it was just finger to the chest and hauled off and cracked him in the face," Donna Cherry said.

Considering that there is an obvious omission of a noun or a pronoun before the word: hauled, it might actually mean that Mr. Cherry poked the dog owner in the chest, FIRST. That's an assault and McGunigle is entitled to defend himself.

Seriously, has this "angrily poke someone in the chest with ones finger" motion ever resulted in the poker not immediately getting their clock cleaned?

What does one hope to achieve with this poke? "Oh, yeah, you're totally right, I'll calm down now."?

I wouldn't go as far as to call it "assault", but it's definitely crossing a line.

And yeah, everyone in TFA sounds like a real winner.


but he knew he could get away with it because he's a MARINE! If you mess with a marine, you will get DESTROYED because they have powers you cannot BEGIN to comprehend. And if you do manage to kill him with one lucky punch, his friends will come after you, and my sources tell me they will KILL YOU SO HARD and make it look like an accident or a suicide. It happens all the time. I mean not ALL The time because Marines have never lost the initial battle and had to be avenged, because they have super powers.
 
2009-07-13 10:55:36 PM
I think Chris Tucker said it best. (clicky pops, bad language)
 
2009-07-13 11:01:32 PM
$3,000 bail after killing someone? Which NFL team does he play for?
 
2009-07-13 11:02:28 PM
doglover: Second, the dog was in a car. How does an animal with no thumbs menace someone from inside a car? Magic? Did the dog have bees in the mouth and when it barked it shot them? It's not like even a mastiff can break safety glass.

Adopted a malamute from a family that couldn't handle it. When they pulled up to the house the dog launched itself out of the back seat through the half rolled down side window, broke the window and cut her leg up.

So actually, a dog can break a car window

/strongest damn dog I ever been around
//happy and playful though
 
2009-07-13 11:04:47 PM
cjlagombra.files.wordpress.com

/sorry
//hope that jackass rots in jail
 
2009-07-13 11:15:10 PM
This asshat should go up the river for a while for decking/ killing someone over his barking dog. Period.

Don't care what kind of dog you have, how well it's trained, you don't go killing folks over their comments about your dog.

And he's not Old Yeller.
 
2009-07-13 11:18:32 PM
clowncar on fire: We're missing the humor of the whole thing, folks! Marine gets clocked by some dog owner coming out of Starbucks.

The point to this whole sordid tale should get neatly wrapped up by acknowleging that barking dogs, beeping horns, and noisy kids can catch us off guard and really fray some nerves. Take a few moments to evaluate the situation and determine: was there collateral damage? Was there a real threat or just a sudden annoyance.

If a real public hazard- not just a scary bark-- call the proper authority to handle the situaution. Don't think the owner to be any more stable then his dog.

If you just crapped your pants because of a sudden noise but no further threat is posed. Laugh it off and move on.

I've had numerous dogs 'hit the glass' while walking thru the parking lot. I've never considered it to be more then dogs being trueto their nature and advise my kids never attempt to pet a dog stuck in a car no matter how cute he appears. I did that ONCE as a kid- my dad decided I had learned my lesson for the day- no further reminders needed in backing that lesson up.

Re: people with weak hearts and capable of dying from noise induced fright- Need we sound proof the World for their convenience? If the barking dog doesn't kill 'em, the dropped platter in the resturant, back firing truck, or a clap of thunder will. -1 for even attempting to try to pin that one on a dog in a car.

People need pay more attention to their immediate environment rather then blame others for their inattentiveness. More attention = less surprises = less frayed nerves for all.


THIS.
 
2009-07-13 11:39:08 PM
To everyone that thinks a simple poke can warrant self-defense, you're completely wrong.

To everyone that thinks a simple poke can't be charged as assault, you're completely wrong.

The moral of the story is that you're only allowed to defend yourself with a proportional amount of force. You aren't legally cleared to crack someone's skull open if they poke you, and you aren't legally cleared to stab someone if they shove you.

This will certainly be prosecuted as manslaughter, and since it is a Marine, might have some additional charges tacked on. Not saying that's right or wrong, but that's how it will be.

Just remember, if someone pokes you, and you slug them in the face, you're going to be tried for assault as well. If you're on either side of the poke or the punch, I suggest you get with the other person, apologize, and mutually agree not to press charges. An assault charge WILL fark up your life, and you won't even know it until you apply for a security clearance, go to register a firearm, or receive psychologist/chiropractor/doctor's bills to the tune of several thousand dollars.
 
2009-07-14 12:28:04 AM
WAIT .... the Marine couldn't take a punch??

I thought they were tough, hardened warriors?

The puncher should be strung up and beated to death.
The Marines et al should be sad, but slightly embarrassed that one of their own was pretty wimpy.
 
2009-07-14 12:34:44 AM
Animal cruelty or human cruelty? Well they're both good options.
 
2009-07-14 12:50:30 AM
Such a waste of a very cute-looking dude.

img20.imageshack.us
 
2009-07-14 01:12:15 AM
Assault

A crime that occurs when one person tries to physically harm another in a way that makes the person under attack feel immediately threatened. Actual physical contact is not necessary; threatening gestures that would alarm any reasonable person can constitute an assault.

/valuable lessons: Mind your own farking business.
There's always someone tougher than you.
 
2009-07-14 01:22:32 AM
Gridlock: Such a waste of a very cute-looking dude.

But who's that guy to the left?

//Bada bing.
 
2009-07-14 01:29:39 AM
The answer, as Mr. McGunigle will now tell you, was "B".

/Submitter
 
2009-07-14 01:39:22 AM
So, is murdering somebody for complaining about your fuc*ing dog the new badass cred?

Can't we just start mulching these jerkoffs?
 
2009-07-14 01:54:13 AM
Thug douche - 1. Formerly smug ex-Marine - 0. Perhaps they were made for each other.
 
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