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(Fox News)   Prisoner No. 1727-054 has hired a consultant to help find the best prison to serve 150 years in. In other news, there's a consultant for everything   (foxnews.com) divider line 87
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2009-07-04 04:43:00 AM  
He's going to pay the conslutant with what?
 
2009-07-04 04:45:52 AM  
The way things are going, he's gonna die within the next six months.
 
2009-07-04 05:20:36 AM  
Give him an easy ride? Bullshiat, stick his ass in GP and let them have a little fun with him, he's got a lot of karma to make up for.
 
2009-07-04 06:20:53 AM  
Archie Goodwin: He's going to pay the conslutant with what?

Cigarettes, as is customary.
 
2009-07-04 07:24:46 AM  
Last One Left: Archie Goodwin: He's going to pay the conslutant with what?

Cigarettes. But only if they fell off a truck.
 
2009-07-04 08:25:12 AM  
I wasn't aware that you could choose which proson you were going to rot in.

/They should stick him in a supermax with the other long-termers.
 
2009-07-04 08:54:40 AM  
The thought of prisoners asking him (in all seriousness) for financial advice about their "outside" investments makes me chuckle.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-07-04 09:18:33 AM  
You can ask. The government does not have to listen. The judge already refused to make a non-binding recommendation that he be sent to a minimum security facility.

TFA: He could be forced to mingle with murderers, rapists, drug-dealers and white supremacist gangs with a hatred of Jews. Madoff is Jewish.

In Massachusetts a suspected pedophile priest was actually convicted only of grabbing a boy's clothed ass with his hand. Prison authorities put him in a cell with a violent killer known to hate gays. He did not last long.
 
2009-07-04 10:30:36 AM  
ZAZ: In Massachusetts a suspected pedophile priest was actually convicted only of grabbing a boy's clothed ass with his hand.

You mean Geohgan? the guy who raped numerous little boys, but the statue of limitations had run out? Yeah, he was only "convicted" of touching one boy, but it's pretty clear he had forced himself on dozens.
 
2009-07-04 11:36:44 AM  
Archie Goodwin: He's going to pay the conslutant with what?

I hear you can make a pretty good sangria in the terlet.
 
2009-07-04 11:37:38 AM  
FTFA: "But it's patently unfair to cast him as a symbol of all evil."

Eh, not that unfair.
 
2009-07-04 11:38:54 AM  
what_now: You mean Geohgan? the guy who raped numerous little boys, but the statue of limitations had run out? Yeah, he was only "convicted" of touching one boy, but it's pretty clear he had forced himself on dozens.

OK, let me run this through. I have a hard time keeping hypocrisy straight:

Waterboarding someone who you know is a terrorist or aids terrorist and haskilled innocents, but has not been convicted or put on trial, is wrong.

Having someone who has been accused of and who you know is a child molester killed, even though they were never convicted for that, is perfectly OK.

Hell, why bother with the trial? We claim to be so civilized, yet our actions do not match our words.
 
2009-07-04 11:38:56 AM  
"You are a thief"

I stole a loaf of ..., oh hell, who am I kidding, I stole a lot!
 
2009-07-04 11:39:03 AM  

"I want him locked under the farkin' jail!"


www.zuguide.com

 
2009-07-04 11:41:25 AM  
Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.
 
2009-07-04 11:43:58 AM  
SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.


Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?
 
2009-07-04 11:44:04 AM  
i2.photobucket.com
 
2009-07-04 11:45:54 AM  
images.forbes.com
What club fed might look like...

/don't know anything about the place...just a quick GIS
//hot like a FL prison camp
 
2009-07-04 11:46:34 AM  
How in the hell does he have ANY say in this in the first place? Throw his ass down the deepest hole we got.
 
2009-07-04 11:46:42 AM  
EverWatcher: The thought of prisoners asking him (in all seriousness) for financial advice about their "outside" investments makes me chuckle.

Ah jebus, I think I saw that in a movie once . . .

/keep him away from the Rita Hayworth posters!
 
2009-07-04 11:47:28 AM  
Sue Dunham: SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.

Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?


I'm not sure exactly how the "time off for good behavior" thing works, but I'd imagine it's to allow a margin wide enough such that he'd never see the light of day.
 
2009-07-04 11:48:33 AM  
CTaylor80: EverWatcher: The thought of prisoners asking him (in all seriousness) for financial advice about their "outside" investments makes me chuckle.

Ah jebus, I think I saw that in a movie once . . .

/keep him away from the Rita Hayworth posters!


And make sure that federal agents are monitoring rock walls near Buxton
 
2009-07-04 11:49:00 AM  
A few years back didn't fark link to an article about a prison consultant?
 
2009-07-04 11:49:20 AM  
ZAZ: You can ask. The government does not have to listen. The judge already refused to make a non-binding recommendation that he be sent to a minimum security facility.

TFA: He could be forced to mingle with murderers, rapists, drug-dealers and white supremacist gangs with a hatred of Jews. Madoff is Jewish.

In Massachusetts a suspected pedophile priest was actually convicted only of grabbing a boy's clothed ass with his hand. Prison authorities put him in a cell with a violent killer known to hate gays. He did not last long.

You think those in authority didn't know exactly what they were doing.

There's one thing you do not do, that is harm children. Everyone who does should be put to death.

/not exaggerating
 
2009-07-04 11:55:47 AM  
maybe he saw shawshank redemption. oh yeah, he's a jew. he can't hide the rock hammer in his bible. oh well.
 
2009-07-04 11:57:23 AM  
OutsmartBullet: Sue Dunham: SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.

Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?

I'm not sure exactly how the "time off for good behavior" thing works, but I'd imagine it's to allow a margin wide enough such that he'd never see the light of day.


I believe it is something like "for every one day of good behavior, one day is taken off your sentence."
 
2009-07-04 11:57:28 AM  
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

/poor Bernie
//Seventeen-to-tha-Fiddy Fou for short
 
2009-07-04 11:58:14 AM  
media3.washingtonpost.com

/solitary Supermax cell, for his own protection
//no buttsecks
///image is hot
 
2009-07-04 11:59:06 AM  
Sue Dunham: SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.

Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?


Way to atleast attempt to stay impartial Fox News. Biggest fraud EVER and its 'draconian'? Did you think he should be sent to happy unicorn resort detention facility for a couple days?
 
2009-07-04 11:59:20 AM  
So why a sentence of 150 years?

So the public is less likely to ask "why isn't his wife, his brother, his children, and his entire staff not in jail already, since they helped him steal the money, spend the money, took the money, lied about the money, blah.
How to find out who did what?
Remember all those $1 million+ checks that were going to be mailed, to hide the money before it was seized?
Arrest every single one of those people - isn't it obvious that there was already an understanding that either it's a gift (and they're not going to give the Fed the money merely because it's stolen), or they're helping him hide it?

Why didn't he talk?
Because the prosecutor already knew that the people whom he would name could not be prosecuted, and to even question them would end his career.
 
2009-07-04 12:01:26 PM  
Sue Dunham:

Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?


Largely symbolic to show that justice was served. Plus it sets the bar high in case some other jackass tries the same thing.

I have no sympathy for this guy: he took everything people had with no consideration as to where the loss would leave them. And it wasn't a "one time mistake", he did it repeatedly to 100's of people over 20 years with no sign of remorse.
 
2009-07-04 12:01:51 PM  
msheda: I stole a loaf of ..., oh hell, who am I kidding, I stole a lot!

Listen to me Prisoner Two-four-six-oh-one...
 
2009-07-04 12:05:29 PM  
It doesn't matter where he ends up. He's going to be "punished" with free food and free healthcare for the rest of his life.
 
2009-07-04 12:12:00 PM  
LavenderWolf: ZAZ: You can ask. The government does not have to listen. The judge already refused to make a non-binding recommendation that he be sent to a minimum security facility.

TFA: He could be forced to mingle with murderers, rapists, drug-dealers and white supremacist gangs with a hatred of Jews. Madoff is Jewish.

In Massachusetts a suspected pedophile priest was actually convicted only of grabbing a boy's clothed ass with his hand. Prison authorities put him in a cell with a violent killer known to hate gays. He did not last long.
You think those in authority didn't know exactly what they were doing.

There's one thing you do not do, that is harm children. Everyone who does should be put to death.

/not exaggerating


One thing that you do not do? Bullshiat. There are plenty of things that you 'do not do', and all of those crimes have a penalty commensurate with the harm.

Is killing the person going to erase the harm? No.
Is the child dead? In many cases no. And in this case, not even close.
Has draconian punishment been successful in eliminating crime in the history of the world? No.

Do we have a history of never convicting an innocent person?
Have we sent innocent people to death?


Of course, I don't expect a logical response from someone who just advocated death for someone who touched the clothed bottom of a child.


Hey, you could be right. Afterall, there are no homosexuals in Iran, right?
 
2009-07-04 12:12:36 PM  
A public hanging should have been on the list of potential punishments for this guy.
 
2009-07-04 12:14:22 PM  
This type of "consultant" must be pricey. Perhaps any money he tries to fork out for such stupidity should be confiscated.... and given to his victims.

Obviously this whole "prison thing" isn't going to work for Madoff. He may need a butler to do his nails and a bodyguard to protect him from shanking.
 
2009-07-04 12:17:36 PM  
starchild: It doesn't matter where he ends up. He's going to be "punished" with free food and free healthcare for the rest of his life.



This guy probably felt tortured if he had to go to a common gas station or, gasp, actually eat at a buffet.


Oh he'll be in for a few years, then suddenly develop a "health problem" and they'll put him on house restrictions. Of course, he'll be in his fancy ass mansion with servants and such. The rich always weasel out of punishment.... even when they're rich off other people's money.
 
2009-07-04 12:17:40 PM  
starchild: It doesn't matter where he ends up. He's going to be "punished" with free food and free healthcare for the rest of his life.

The irony is, for Madoff, that IS a very good punishment. He, unlike the vast majority of humanity, wasn't satisfied with 'enough to survive and live comfortably'. That is exactly what led to him performing this fraud in the first place.

If there is one person in the world where being forced to live with just enough for the rest of your life is a fitting punishment, it is Madoff.
 
2009-07-04 12:28:40 PM  
pzippy: OutsmartBullet: Sue Dunham: SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Get real. At his age any reasonable sentence is a life sentence.

Exactly. So why a sentence of 150 years?

I'm not sure exactly how the "time off for good behavior" thing works, but I'd imagine it's to allow a margin wide enough such that he'd never see the light of day.

I believe it is something like "for every one day of good behavior, one day is taken off your sentence."


In the Federal Prison System, you can expect to serve 85% of your sentence. In the past it was closer to 50%.
 
2009-07-04 12:29:20 PM  
I wonder if Tyrell Jackson or Dujuan Washington were able to choose where they spent life in prison?

/who?
 
2009-07-04 12:29:32 PM  
Being in jail isn't any kind of fun. To be there for the rest of your life, with no hope of ever leaving... Yeah, that's pretty bad. He may eventually come to terms with it, find Jesus, teach in-prison classes, whatever, but he'll never be happy again. One day he'll realize that he just got excited over the blueberry muffin on his breakfast tray, and promply hang himself with a shoelace.
 
2009-07-04 12:31:45 PM  
starchild: It doesn't matter where he ends up. He's going to be "punished" with free food and free healthcare for the rest of his life.

I sincerely hope he gets the best health care money can buy. I want him to do as many of those 150 years as possible.
 
2009-07-04 12:35:35 PM  
redsquid: starchild: It doesn't matter where he ends up. He's going to be "punished" with free food and free healthcare for the rest of his life.

I sincerely hope he gets the best health care money can buy. I want him to do as many of those 150 years as possible.


This.
 
2009-07-04 12:37:02 PM  
EverWatcher: The thought of prisoners asking him (in all seriousness) for financial advice about their "outside" investments makes me chuckle.

My impression is that Madoff doesn't actually know anything about real investments, if he did he wouldn't be going to jail for running a Ponzi scheme.
 
2009-07-04 12:37:27 PM  
There is no such thing as parole in the Federal prison system, and there hasn't been since 1987.

Madoff will die in prison.
 
2009-07-04 12:37:35 PM  
i bet the jewish lobby called AIPAC will force the govt to give him a nice house arrest

i wonder where all the money has gone to, which country is it?

money is not destroyed, even loss of money means transer from on asset to another

send agents to israel to track the money
 
2009-07-04 12:37:58 PM  
Sun God: The way things are going, he's gonna die within the next six months.

People seem to forget he had a highly successful and respectable career as the head of NASDAQ before he decided to be a con artist.
 
2009-07-04 12:38:33 PM  
^^^ Crap, I quoted the wrong person. Sorry, meant to quote the "what's he going to pay him with" guy.
 
2009-07-04 12:51:01 PM  
SharkTrager: Did the article really refer to his sentence as "draconian". The man has been convicted of the largest fraud in criminal history, and the sentence is "draconian"?

Incorrect, the largest frauds in history continue to be the Social Security and Medicare systems. Madoff made the mistake of not being a government agency.
 
2009-07-04 12:51:05 PM  
philosophical observer: i bet the jewish lobby called AIPAC will force the govt to give him a nice house arrest

i wonder where all the money has gone to, which country is it?

money is not destroyed, even loss of money means transer from on asset to another

send agents to israel to track the money


Madoff ripped off some of the largest Jewish charities in the country. Israel is not going to protect him for anything.
 
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