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2003-02-22 01:21:42 PM
There's some fine journalism, right there!

After reading the article,

1) I can't make a general summary of what Newton predicted. What day, or week or whenever ... . Did he mention a specific year, or did he wake up in 1660 and say something like "the world will end 400 years from this minute".

(2) I don't know exactly what words Newton used. We need this to determine if he actually said anything at all about the end of the world, or if the ado is about nothing, just fanciful reading of ambiguous statements, as interpreted by tinhat nutburgers (ala the prophecies of Nostradamus).

(3) I don't know what kind of logic (or illogic) he used to arrive at his conclusions. Was it revealed to him by cherubim bearing fiery swords, dressed like the cast of "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat", or was it something he calculated scientifically from a theory about the expansion of the sun. Kind of an important question, doncha think?
 
2003-02-22 01:57:56 PM
My Eleventy-first birthday.
 
2003-02-22 03:22:03 PM
Ok, I have a question. Why does everyone seem to care about when the world is going to end? You can only be right once, and you really don't want to be right. What good is knowing how it all ends? Do all of you people read the end of a book first?
 
2003-02-22 03:42:36 PM
Wow, cool! I hope I live long enough to die in it!
 
2003-02-22 04:42:58 PM
I don't think he could predict armageddon. But his fig filled cookies are pretty good.
 
2003-02-22 05:06:43 PM
The whole thing was just a Fig Newton of his imagination.
 
2003-02-22 05:10:35 PM
F*ck Newton.
 
2003-02-22 05:11:28 PM
they're not cookies, they're fruited cake.
 
2003-02-22 05:12:21 PM
Damn this story! I want my tip back.
 
2003-02-22 05:12:35 PM
57 years?!!

IF BUSH GETS HIS WAY, NO ONE WILL LIVE TO SEE 2004!!!!
 
2003-02-22 05:13:07 PM
I always thought it was 'fruit and cake'
 
2003-02-22 05:13:47 PM
I heard from a friend that Newton was an absolute c*nt in real life.

And he wore a wig.
 
2003-02-22 05:13:52 PM
Why does everyone and their dog have a prediction for the time of the apocalypse? The Bible says that no one knows when Jesus will return. Fools.
 
2003-02-22 05:14:05 PM
I doubt I'll be there to see it.
 
2003-02-22 05:14:13 PM
"A flood of apples will rain down from the sky many years future. Men will die, women will make pie."
Ike Newton
 
2003-02-22 05:14:20 PM
Maybe he was just predicting the making of a really bad movie that doesn't use any of his physics, and got the date wrong by half a century or so.
 
2003-02-22 05:14:35 PM
When I wake up and die, that is when the world ends. Until then, I'll have another beer, and pass to the right.

Ah, science decoding the bible. It is so funny.
 
2003-02-22 05:15:05 PM
HEY, EVERYBODY! - Armaggedon is just around the corner!!

Just like it has been for the last 3000 or more years.
 
2003-02-22 05:15:12 PM
Hmmm, come to think of it, we're likely to be almost completely out of petroleum by that point...
 
2003-02-22 05:15:14 PM
Mark your calendars. Then as the big day approaches, charge up the credit cards, or whatever we'll be using to purchase goods and services.
 
2003-02-22 05:16:30 PM
Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32, in case anyone cared. "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son."
 
2003-02-22 05:17:25 PM
Seeing how many of Newton's calculations were actually off, he probably botched this one too.
 
2003-02-22 05:17:54 PM
Oh good, I'll be ready to die by then.
 
2003-02-22 05:18:05 PM
sir isaa-who-who?
 
2003-02-22 05:18:13 PM
This clown got hit in the head by one too many apples.
 
2003-02-22 05:19:30 PM
His calculations would have been correct had he known about the Bush factor. Hmmmm, that would bring it to about August 17th - 19th 2003. Hey, that's pretty soon. Better practice kissing your tushie goodbye.

Maybe if everyone writes a letter to the Whitehouse telling him to cut this crap out the world can be saved, then we can get back to some of his more mundane nonesense like trying to abolish abortion.
 
2003-02-22 05:19:32 PM
Ahhhh, nothing like predicting the end of the world through some religious text.

Always an accurate thing for a scientist to use religious texts as a benchmark for research.

Good stuff. Next stop? Voodoo as a method of healing.
 
2003-02-22 05:20:08 PM
2-22-03 05:10:35 PM
Korzeniowski


F*ck Newton.

--

I have a shovel if you're that willing.
 
2003-02-22 05:20:15 PM
Dammit!

Actuarial tables suggests I will not be around for it.

I SO wanted to say "I told you so".
 
2003-02-22 05:20:26 PM
The world will actually end in 2013. Don't any of you scoffers believe in the Mayan Calendar?

Of course, when 2014 rolls around, all paranoiacs will have no idea what to do with themselves.

But the Christians will be strong in their faith, knowing that Armaggedon and the resulting return of their Lord shall happen. Someday.

He promised, didn't he?
 
2003-02-22 05:20:28 PM
Newton, who died in 1727, is best known for discovering gravity

does that mean everyone else was just kinda floating around?
 
2003-02-22 05:20:35 PM
Young_Fart
I doubt I'll be there to see it.

Young Fart = Not-So-Young Fart?

I must concur with Tomasso. This isn't a news article. It's more like an anecdote. "I heard from a guy who heard it from a guy who thought he overheard some other guy say that Newton said the world was gonna end in 57 years. I think it was Newton. It mighta been 570 years." Yahoo is following the general trend of dumbing things down for the masses who lack the wit to understand and the attention spa...hey, let's go ride out bikes!

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2003-02-22 05:20:50 PM
Way to not include any real information in the article.

*Official announcement*

The End of the Frickin World alert level is now orange!
 
2003-02-22 05:21:01 PM
Oh good, I won't be here.
 
2003-02-22 05:22:42 PM
DisneyOnIce
Dec. 21, 2012, actually. I fully intend to see that ^_^
 
2003-02-22 05:23:21 PM
Forefather of Classical Physics, not Modern.
 
2003-02-22 05:23:52 PM
57 years sounds surprisingly accurate.
 
2003-02-22 05:24:02 PM
Me too Serendipity23! I'm planning an "End of the World" cocktail party!!
 
2003-02-22 05:24:57 PM
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshiat three ring circus sideshow of freaks.
 
2003-02-22 05:25:04 PM
Tomasso: That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the article.
 
2003-02-22 05:25:26 PM
Narmacil
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son."

Jesus lost his day planner? "I know I'm supposed to go back someday, but I can't remember when. Dammit! Where'd that agenda go? I know I had it when they stuck those nails in my wrists..."

/blasphemy...a wonderful thing

HarryBeanBag
Newton, who died in 1727, is best known for discovering gravity

does that mean everyone else was just kinda floating around?


Newton 'discovered' gravity in the same way explorers discover waterfalls. Sure, the local natives have know about Victoria Falls for generations, but until some berk in a pith helmet shows up, names it after his sovereign and puts it on a map, it's just a hill with water sloshing over it.

But everybody knows that gravity is really a push.
 
2003-02-22 05:25:29 PM
Actuarial tables suggests I will not be around for it.

MorteDiem - maybe you should try this instead.
 
2003-02-22 05:26:57 PM
Bondith, depends on your point of view I suppose. It's something I got called when I was 16, though.
 
2003-02-22 05:27:49 PM
"...The world will end on Feburary 14th, 2016"

"Valentine's Day. Bummer."
 
2003-02-22 05:28:09 PM
Oh great, just give more ammo to the fundie assholes who keep justifying their shiat by saying, "Well the world will be ending soon so it doesn't matter."

Like does anybody remember Secretary of the Interior James Watt, who said with a completely straight face to a Senate committee that we should use up all our available resources as fast as we can because the time of Revelation was going to be soon.
 
2003-02-22 05:28:17 PM
I think he took one too many apples to the head.
 
2003-02-22 05:29:11 PM
HarryBeanBag

Been there, done that.

Last timeI checked, I think I was supposed to be dead like 3 years ago.
 
2003-02-22 05:30:44 PM
DarKrow wins the obscure comedy reference award!
 
2003-02-22 05:31:36 PM
Thank you, DisneyOnIce
 
2003-02-22 05:32:21 PM
Bondith: hey, let's go ride our bikes!

Blatant theft of Dave McBride. I love it...
 
2003-02-22 05:32:47 PM
Your Personal Day of Death is...
Friday, July 27, 2057


so i'll miss it anyways i guess...meh.
 
2003-02-22 05:33:33 PM
"Next week - hairless pets. WEIRD!"
 
2003-02-22 05:34:43 PM
newton invented calculus. therefore i hate him.
 
2003-02-22 05:35:16 PM
Who you gonna call? DarKrow?
 
2003-02-22 05:35:58 PM
Armageddon's not coming. God went off to fight the demon lord Ogodamir. They ended up killing eachother, leaving Jesus to run the show. But what good is an Armageddon without a big bad? Jesus hasn't got anybody to smite so he just sits on his ass and waits for something to show up and start killing people. But Ogodamir died before he could father the Anti-Christ. So we're safe. Lets live in sin.
 
2003-02-22 05:39:02 PM
I delcare shennanegans on anyone declaring the end of the world nopw that the 2000 has past. That was supposed to be it. I thought that one of the benefits of living through the year 2000 is that we wouldn't have to hear any more end of the world shizit.
 
2003-02-22 05:39:27 PM
You remember all the "world is gonna end 2000 years after JC's birth" garbage? Expect to hear it again in around 30 years when it'll be "world is gonna end 2000 years after JC's death".
 
2003-02-22 05:40:03 PM
Damn, I can't type.
 
2003-02-22 05:42:38 PM
02-22-03 05:34:43 PM Beer baron
newton invented calculus. therefore i hate him.


Don't knock calculus. The laws of Electromagnetism are written in calculus. Without them, there'd be no electronics, therefore no computers, therefore no internet.
 
2003-02-22 05:44:17 PM
You remember all the "world is gonna end 2000 years after JC's birth" garbage?

speaking of dates, i'm surprised the lefties aren't screaming about changing the point of reference regarding our calendar years... after all, "BC" is a Christian based reference and we can't have that going on, of course...
 
2003-02-22 05:45:54 PM
Armageddon days are here again! - The The
 
2003-02-22 05:46:45 PM
My dog is totally obvious and happy about that.

I'm going to pretend I'm my dog.

Woof!
 
2003-02-22 05:47:33 PM
It's obvious I can't spell oblivious.

Woof woof!
 
2003-02-22 05:48:17 PM
Do all of you people read the end of a book first?

Hell yeah. What if the world ended tomorrow? I would never know how the book ended.
 
2003-02-22 05:48:34 PM
"i'm surprised the lefties aren't screaming about changing the point of reference regarding our calendar years... after all, "BC" is a Christian based reference.."

Already been changed. Supposed to be B.C.E, now.
 
2003-02-22 05:49:22 PM

I feel fine.
 
2003-02-22 05:49:39 PM
Newton discovered gravity the same way Godwin discoverd the flame war.
 
2003-02-22 05:50:43 PM
I'm coming back...and I'm not telling when.
 
2003-02-22 05:50:54 PM
JohnHolmesStuntDouble:

Yea, I believe we should base our calendar on the great big imaginary hoodoo in the sky.
 
2003-02-22 05:51:26 PM
I'll be a old grouchy man by then, but I'll make sure to shake my cane at armageddon in whatever form it takes.
 
2003-02-22 05:52:10 PM
I'd think a giant space apple hurtling towards the earth would be easier to destroy than a rock~
 
2003-02-22 05:52:17 PM
I'll be 87. I knew the younger gernerations would find a way to screw me out of my Social Security. Dab Nabbit!
 
2003-02-22 05:54:14 PM
It's not the giant space apple we have to worry about - it's the giant space worm inside!!
 
2003-02-22 05:55:15 PM
B.C.E. stands for "Before Common Era"

As far as I know, we live in 2003 A.D. (Anno Dominum - Latin for "the Year of Our Lord").
 
2003-02-22 05:55:33 PM
I was going to say DarKrow wins because it was funny, and I know him on another board..

but then I saw Elwood's!

Go REM!!!

Take that DarKrow! HA!
 
2003-02-22 05:57:08 PM
Bondith But everybody knows that gravity is really a push.

Gravity really gets me down.
 
2003-02-22 05:57:53 PM
Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still
Followed by billions of dumbfounded dipsh*ts
Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see armageddon soon
Certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bull
Sh*t
Three
Ring
Circus
Sideshow
Of freaks who live in this f*cking hole we call LA
The only way to cleanse it is to flush it all away
Any f*cking time
Any f*cking day
Learn to swim
See you down in Arizona Bay


listen to Tool and Bill Hicks(RIP)
 
2003-02-22 06:02:44 PM
The fact that some FARKER using the name "JohnHolmesStuntDouble: has the gall to express moral outrage ie:
"i'm surprised the lefties aren't screaming about changing the point of reference regarding our calendar years... after all, "BC" is a Christian based reference and we can't have that going on, of course..."

just kills me!!!
 
2003-02-22 06:04:21 PM
werd.
 
2003-02-22 06:05:05 PM
DisneyOnIce Anno Dominum - Latin for "the Year of Our Lord"

"The year the lord"?

Surely you mean the indicative: "Domini"?

/still thinking about the Romans/London traffic thing
 
2003-02-22 06:05:37 PM
Actually, i've heard the year now called 2003 C.E. (just like B.C.E., before current era...only the current era). Anyway, I'mn pretty sure I'll be alive to die in 2012( google search said 21 or 23 december 2012).
 
2003-02-22 06:06:49 PM
Maynardjameskeenan:

What's the connection between Tool and Bill Hicks? I've heard Bill, but not Tool. Seems like you can't mention one without the other in the same sentence.
 
2003-02-22 06:09:40 PM
Maynardjameskeenan:

That's "you" as in "people generally", not you as in "Maynardjameskeenan".
 
2003-02-22 06:23:02 PM
Actually, i've heard the year now called 2003 C.E. (just like B.C.E., before current era...only the current era).

What's up with the Evangelical Atheism?
 
2003-02-22 06:23:16 PM
heh. I actually have a friend that's planning on eloping asap rather than waiting a couple of years for marriage (she already has a guy) if "the end of the world looks near", because she wants to be married before it's all over.

I need new friends :(
 
2003-02-22 06:24:20 PM
The World will end in 5 minutes. BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

And CE/BCE is Political Correctness Bull shiat.
 
2003-02-22 06:24:46 PM
Frankie13 Maynard James Keenan, the lead singer of Tool, is a big fan of Bill Hicks. At the begining of the song Third Eye there are two samples of Bill Hick's stand up. And there is a picture in the cover art of their album Aenima declaring Bill Hicks a great American philosopher or something to that effect.
 
2003-02-22 06:26:43 PM
Frankie13 - indicative is a mood for verbs not a case for nouns. You mean he needs the genetive, domini.


/Redefining Grammer Nazi
 
2003-02-22 06:29:15 PM
When someone like "Frankie13" shows up, there is no point in any further discussion. All comments or opinions shall be endlessly subjected to the anal-retentive minutiae (spelling, grammar, etc.) that such a lonely, sad, basement-dwelling dork as "Frankie13" requires in an effort to feel superior, or even more sadly, noticed.
 
2003-02-22 06:30:03 PM
Bill hicks had an album called Arizona Bay which supposedly inspired Tool to write the song AEnima( which those lyrics are from)Anyway, i was turned on to Bill Hicks because Tool thank him in their CD cover.He was one very VERY funny guy.
 
2003-02-22 06:32:11 PM
So I'll be 86 in 2057? I can live with it :D
 
2003-02-22 06:35:18 PM
September 12th 1981. I'll get back to you.
 
2003-02-22 06:36:25 PM
My death date is... Sunday, May 29, 2050
 
2003-02-22 06:48:37 PM
Well luckily the Mayans had their calendars stop 15 years from now or somethin, meanin TEh W0rLd i5 GUn4A 3ND!!!111!1111

Considerin how well that calendar served them after they were wiped out, maybe they just thought "F*ck it. We'll stop here."

Though I know of a Mayan; technically a Mexican. He lives in English and hangs out at a message board I frequent.
And there was an Eskimo in my old high school. Actually he's still there cuz I graduated last year. And yes he prefers Eskimo to Inuit; I think it's cuz he's a fan of Eskimo Bob.

/rant
 
2003-02-22 06:50:45 PM
Scaryduck
Ah that'd be my birthdate cept in '84.
 
2003-02-22 06:57:30 PM
I'm just getting over Johnny Paychecks passing and now this.
 
2003-02-22 07:02:01 PM
Binoboy the way the Mayan Calendar is supposed to play out the cycle of the nine hells ended in 1987. After that began the final cycle till the end of this age. Each cycle is 26 years. So the Mayan calendar ends on December 21st 2012. And in 2013 begins the next 5200 year cycle... now if this is good, bad, the end of the world or who knows what... is hard to tell. I guess it really all depends on if you believe it will effect anything.
 
2003-02-22 07:15:11 PM
 
2003-02-22 07:27:40 PM
Newton also wrote over a million words about astrology and look where that got him.
 
2003-02-22 07:33:05 PM
Let's hope for Jesus' sake that when he is born again he turns out to be a good-ol' southern country-fried redneck. With the requisite beard and mullet.

Otherwise, the Pat Robertson Corporation (divinely ordained by God Himself) might fail to recognize Him.
 
2003-02-22 07:37:22 PM
Word on the street is that Einstein had re-written his soloution to Newton's bible code, factoring for the red shift and all...
 
2003-02-22 07:48:02 PM
02-22-03 05:13:52 PM Narmacil
Why does everyone and their dog have a prediction for the time of the apocalypse? The Bible says that no one knows when Jesus will return. Fools.


Yeah, but Jesus also said that some of those living during his time would live to see the end too.

Personally if it does come down to a "the world will end when nobody expects it to" type of scenerio I'm comforted by all these nutcases predicting dates for the end of the world. As long as everyone keeps expecting it to end we're all safe.
 
2003-02-22 07:58:49 PM
In other news, still no cure for cancer...

BFD!!! They said that when Y2K was coming up...give me a break...
 
2003-02-22 08:08:42 PM
DisneyOnIce:

I want you to look very closely at Frankie13's post, and try to figure out who he was correcting.

I will give you a hint: you've only gotten it right if you feel like a jackass.
 
2003-02-22 08:11:18 PM
Less'n, of course, you were referring to his Latin-grammar correction, in which case I would be the one with said feeling.
 
2003-02-22 08:20:09 PM
Thanks "ThirdHorseman"

Wow!
 
2003-02-22 08:21:19 PM
I am ashamed.
 
2003-02-22 08:21:38 PM
anyone heard of maurice cotterol (sp)?

thats some scary stuff... he shows the similarites between all the religions, and backs it all up with facts that can be proved, and shows the whole hidden message (which is the exact same message) behind the egyptian and mayan stuff.. long story, but definitely worth the read, everyone should seriously read that stuff.
 
2003-02-22 08:25:03 PM
Hey Thirdhorseman!!!

You a Teechur??
 
2003-02-22 08:32:21 PM
Its to be noted that Newton was an Alchemist. He sampled his formulas by tasting them. Me thinks his math skills would be affected.
 
2003-02-22 09:16:36 PM
Ghastly:

Personally if it does come down to a "the world will end when nobody expects it to" type of scenerio I'm comforted by all these nutcases predicting dates for the end of the world. As long as everyone keeps expecting it to end we're all safe.

Don't tell people that, because then everybody will think it won't end and it won't work anymore and we'll all be DOOMED!!!
 
2003-02-22 09:19:42 PM
RazorGhost
He sampled his formulas by tasting them.

Common practice in those days. "Come over and taste what I made. If we survive, tomorrow we'll go riding."

"Mmm, tastes like almonds...GAK!"

Both of the above shamelessly stolen from my second-year Organic prof.
 
2003-02-22 09:39:26 PM
Hmm well now that the year 2000 isnt looming over Christians heads, there needs to be a new end of the world date to keep the bastards in line and tithing their way to salvation.
 
2003-02-22 09:46:07 PM
If Johnny Cash singing NIN songs isn't a sign of impending death and worldwide destruction, then I obviously misinterpreted.
 
2003-02-22 10:16:31 PM
Newton also spent a huge amount of time and money on alchemy, and afaik he never did manage to either produce gold or the Elixer of Life. The man's mind started going in rambling directions as he got older (his best actual scientific work was done in his 20's) so consider the source.
 
2003-02-22 10:19:21 PM
Hmmm... So the world is coming to an end in either 12 or 47 years. I guess I had better start the whoring and boozing now before God comes and beats my arse.
 
2003-02-22 10:25:10 PM
I'll stick with the Mayans. The civilized world ends in 2013.
 
2003-02-22 10:56:46 PM
I feel reasonably safe in saying that the "civilized world" ended quite some time ago.
 
2003-02-22 10:57:06 PM
The sad thing about Isaac Newton is that for every day he spent investigating real science, he spent 10 solving insane Bible riddles that, rather obviously, were totally worthless.
 
2003-02-22 11:02:21 PM
mayans say its late dec 2012 not 2013 poopface
 
2003-02-22 11:54:03 PM
I take comfort in the fact that every prediction of the end of the world so far has been incorrect.
 
2003-02-23 02:12:33 AM
Does anybody have the phone number for Milleway's? I want to call and make sure I can still get a good table.
 
2003-02-23 02:52:48 AM
Mayas also believed that our tools and animals would rise up against us and destroy us on that day. As they did the people in the cycle before us. They also believed that by having the King and Queen drive stakes through their tongue and genitals and then running thorny ropes through the holes, creating blood sacrifices, it helped sustain their crops, armies, empire. I don't think those things are true, do you? Of course, if our leaders were required to do things like that it might let us see who really wanted to lead, wouldn't it?

Also, Jesus said in the Bible that no man knew when he would return, so all these people saying 2000 years after his birth are way off. They're not supposed to know according to the source.
 
2003-02-23 05:52:00 AM
Not sure why people bother sending in articles from Yahoo news, the original article appeared in The Telegraph and gives a much clearer explanation:

Newton set 2060 for end of world
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent


Sir Isaac Newton, Britain's greatest scientist, predicted the date of the end of the world - and it is only 57 years away.

His theories about Armageddon have been unearthed by academics from little-known handwritten manuscripts in a library in Jerusalem.

The thousands of pages show Newton's attempts to decode the Bible, which he believed contained God's secret laws for the universe.

Newton, who was also a theologian and alchemist, predicted that the Second Coming of Christ would follow plagues and war and would precede a 1,000-year reign by the saints on earth - of which he would be one.

The most definitive date he set for the apocalypse, which he scribbled on a scrap of paper, was 2060.

Newton's fascination with the end of the world, which has been researched by a Canadian academic, Stephen Snobelen, is to be explored in a documentary, Newton: The Dark Heretic, on BBC2 next Saturday.

"What has been coming out over the past 10 years is what an apocalyptic thinker Newton was," Malcolm Neaum, the producer, said.

"He spent something like 50 years and wrote 4,500 pages trying to predict when the end of the world was coming. But until now it was not known that he ever wrote down a final figure. He was very reluctant to do so."

Thousands of Newton's papers, which had lain in a trunk in the house of the Earl of Portsmouth for 250 years, were sold by Sotheby's in the late 1930s.

John Maynard Keynes, the economist, bought many of the texts on alchemy and theology. But much of the material went to an eccentric collector, Abraham Yahuda, and was stored in the Hebrew National Library. It was among these documents that the date was found.
 
2003-02-23 11:06:07 AM
Newton, who was also a theologian and alchemist, predicted that the Second Coming of Christ would follow plagues and war and would precede a 1,000-year reign by the saints on earth - of which he would be one.

I believe someone said that Newton was a c*nt in life? there's yer proof
 
2003-02-23 12:10:50 PM
DisneyOnIce / ThirdHorseman:

It was a joke... I was still thinking about the Monty Python sketch people keep quoting in the thread about the Romans and the current London traffic situation.

I'm no grammar Nazi, I realise people make mistakes, as long as I can make out what they really mean, I'm not pedantic enough to correct them.
 
2003-02-23 01:24:57 PM
 
2003-02-23 02:59:37 PM
Guess I need to give up the cigarettes, booze, grilled cheeses, etc. I wanna see that shiat. It's going to be a boring 57 years.
 
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