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2009-07-01 04:14:10 PM  
I wonder how much the insurance companies will pay for votes against Health Care.
 
2009-07-01 04:35:52 PM  
Gotta love politicians. Or don't gotta love politicians.
 
2009-07-01 04:36:41 PM  
Diogenes: I wonder how much the insurance companies will pay for votes against Health Care.

Completely irrelevant comment is completely irrelevant.
 
2009-07-01 04:37:04 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: Diogenes: I wonder how much the insurance companies will pay for votes against Health Care.

Completely irrelevant comment is completely irrelevant.


how so ?
 
2009-07-01 04:40:34 PM  
FToriginalA:

Although the program would benefit his home state, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner, also of Ohio, criticized the provision during a more-than-hourlong speech Friday evening. He said an Ohio-based power authority was unneeded because electricity already flows well through Ohio without a new federal power authority.


He seemed to know about, and anyone who listened to his speech.


so how was it slipped in last minute and nobody knew?

So when this article states:

"How many of the Representatives who voted for this bill saw this boondoggle? "

I guess the ones who listened to Boehner's speech, biatch.

Lastly:

money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


Oh My God!!!!! EVIL!


and the wharrgarble never stops
 
2009-07-01 04:42:06 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: Diogenes: I wonder how much the insurance companies will pay for votes against Health Care.

Completely irrelevant comment is completely irrelevant.


I'd disagree, depending on Diogene's point. If his point is that Republicans AND Democrats alike are dishonest, thieving liars looking out for No. 1, then I agree. He's got a valid point.

However, if he's saying that this nonsense is justified because the repubs do it or are going to do it, that's irrelevant dumbassery, true.
 
2009-07-01 04:42:37 PM  
So they are trying to pass an environmental bill that will hurt the coal industry in Ohio. So Ohio holds out until it gets a large sum of money for other renewable energy sources.

My god. The horror.
 
2009-07-01 04:43:28 PM  
h8_u_2: money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states. that will go down yet another government-sponsored rathole and never be recovered.


Oh My God!!!!! EVIL!


FTFY
 
2009-07-01 04:44:08 PM  
I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating you dipshiats.
 
2009-07-01 04:45:39 PM  
PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.
 
2009-07-01 04:46:28 PM  
ssl.fark.com
 
2009-07-01 04:46:31 PM  
h8_u_2: money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.

Tax the hell out of something essential for the state to survive. Then offer a loan to pay to replace that essential service with something that is incapable of meeting the demand for years. Is the mafia involved in this?
 
2009-07-01 04:46:37 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: h8_u_2: money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states. that will go down yet another government-sponsored rathole and never be recovered.


Oh My God!!!!! EVIL!

FTFY


ain't shiat you can do but take it!
 
2009-07-01 04:47:01 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.


What you are suggesting in the end of the American system of legislating and governance you fool. Forget what Rush or Hannity told you and think about this for a minute.
 
2009-07-01 04:47:42 PM  
OgreMagi: h8_u_2: money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.

Tax the hell out of something essential for the state to survive. Then offer a loan to pay to replace that essential service with something that is incapable of meeting the demand for years. Is the mafia involved in this?


I know. You don't understand. But you're gonna take it anyway.
 
2009-07-01 04:48:12 PM  
OgreMagi: h8_u_2: money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.

Tax the hell out of something essential for the state to survive. Then offer a loan to pay to replace that essential service with something that is incapable of meeting the demand for years. Is the mafia involved in this?


Cap and Trade and fund alternative energy. That's what this bill is for.

I mean, you can be against the whole idea of the bill, but this is a logical piece of it.
 
2009-07-01 04:49:03 PM  
PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.

What you are suggesting in the end of the American system of legislating and governance you fool. Forget what Rush or Hannity told you and think about this for a minute.


Come again? Was that even English?
 
2009-07-01 04:50:01 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.

What you are suggesting inis the end of the American system of legislating and governance you fool. Forget what Rush or Hannity told you and think about this for a minute.

Come again? Was that even English?


FTFM

This is how our system works.
 
2009-07-01 04:50:08 PM  
Mitzy Kaptur sure came a long way from Silk Stalkings!
 
2009-07-01 04:52:33 PM  
PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.

What you are suggesting inis the end of the American system of legislating and governance you fool. Forget what Rush or Hannity told you and think about this for a minute.

Come again? Was that even English?

FTFM

This is how our system works.


Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.
 
2009-07-01 04:54:08 PM  
Truncks1: So they are trying to pass an environmental bill that will hurt the coal industry in Ohio. So Ohio holds out until it gets a large sum of money for other renewable energy sources.

My god. The horror.


was thinking the same thing.
 
2009-07-01 04:54:18 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.
 
2009-07-01 04:55:34 PM  
un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.


Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.
 
2009-07-01 04:55:40 PM  
FTA:

"They gave her what she wanted - a new federal power authority, similar to Washington state's Bonneville Power Administration, stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states."

If only the rest of government could run as well as the Bonneville Power Administration . . .

Giving Washington State residents super cheap electricity since 1937 - and has used exactly ZERO tax dollars since.

/funded by wholesale transactions of excess electricity
 
2009-07-01 04:56:32 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.


Oh never mind. You're not the same guy.
 
2009-07-01 04:58:38 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.

Oh never mind. You're not the same guy.


Yeah, I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. Besides, "Change You Can Believe In" only meant "change from stupid Republicans running government" to me. And I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.
 
2009-07-01 05:01:08 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating legal prostitution you dipshiats.

What you are suggesting inis the end of the American system of legislating and governance you fool. Forget what Rush or Hannity told you and think about this for a minute.

Come again? Was that even English?

FTFM

This is how our system works.

Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.


Us guys? Change what? How the United States legislates law?

About 75% of this country's citizens are complete farking morons. just amazes me. The comments over this are classic:

the demonrats are getting bills passed the old fsshion way...BRIBARY...TALK ABOUT YOUR SCUMBAGS.

demonrats?

Term limits could solve problems like this

how?


can we go back to the old tried and true method of tar and feathering them and running them out on a rail ?

For what?

I wonder what kind of payola the 8 traitorous republicans got for their vote. The congress truly believes that they own the money supply and they are free to dish it out in any quantity they choose.

Huh?

This bill will drive up rents. It will be a deal breaker in home sales. This bill will hamper new construction. The big lies include energy savings. The energy savins come from calculating you will pay a lot more per energy unit but will use less units. If your windows are ok and insulation is ok. How will you save energy? It seems to be cheaper to bribe the ACORN trained building inspector than to actually do the work. A smart grid by the way can include energy rationing. They can read your meter by radio and can shut your electricity.

Damn.

All this over a basic function of the congress. Something we actually out to be proud of. farking civics 101 FTW!
 
2009-07-01 05:01:31 PM  
un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.

Oh never mind. You're not the same guy.

Yeah, I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. Besides, "Change You Can Believe In" only meant "change from stupid Republicans running government" to me. And I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.


Yeah, because running the Congress like a whorehouse is only bad when Republicans do it.
 
2009-07-01 05:02:16 PM  
Anybody who biatches about cap-and-trade loses the right to biatch about the national debt. Because you can't make me truly believe that you give a shiat about the "debt to our grandchildren" when you apparently can't be bothered to care about the environment you're leaving them with.
 
2009-07-01 05:03:31 PM  
RevMercutio: Anybody who biatches about cap-and-trade loses the right to biatch about the national debt. Because you can't make me truly believe that you give a shiat about the "debt to our grandchildren" when you apparently can't be bothered to care about the environment you're leaving them with.

The environment is in peril! Ooh, scary! Booga booga! Am I right?
 
2009-07-01 05:04:15 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.

Oh never mind. You're not the same guy.

Yeah, I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. Besides, "Change You Can Believe In" only meant "change from stupid Republicans running government" to me. And I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.

Yeah, because running the Congress like a whorehouse is only bad when Republicans do it.


So compromising = whoring? No wonder you loons can't win elections. Your ideas are antithetical to democracy.
 
2009-07-01 05:05:36 PM  
un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.

Oh never mind. You're not the same guy.

Yeah, I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. Besides, "Change You Can Believe In" only meant "change from stupid Republicans running government" to me. And I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.

Yeah, because running the Congress like a whorehouse is only bad when Republicans do it.

So compromising = whoring? No wonder you loons can't win elections. Your ideas are antithetical to democracy.


I don't see how compromised prostitution is any more noble.
 
2009-07-01 05:06:43 PM  
Meanwhile, the silence is deafening re: demanding publicly financed elections.

/this kind of shiat would be completely marginalized
//... if you'd actually demand publicly financed elections
 
2009-07-01 05:07:36 PM  
MiddleyMcCentrist: Meanwhile, the silence is deafening re: demanding publicly financed elections.

/this kind of shiat would be completely marginalized
//... if you'd actually demand publicly financed elections


Yeah, there's no conflict of interest AT ALL in government financing elections.
 
2009-07-01 05:08:53 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.


Status quo? You mean the way we are constitutionally mandated to legislate?
 
2009-07-01 05:09:00 PM  
Is there anything Obama apologists won't try to rationalize?

Considering that he took over two major automakers, drove them into bankruptcy, and split the carcasses between the federal government and his union buddies......probably not.

Hey $3.5B for ONE VOTE. Business as usual......
 
2009-07-01 05:09:10 PM  
PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating you dipshiats.


No, it's called buying a politician's vote by spending taxpayer money to tinker with Ohio's energy market to offset the massive tinkering done by C&T and sneaking it into the bill just before the vote. Honestly, nothing about any of this strikes you as questionable?

After seeing enough of your dumbass comments in these threads, I'd have thought your computer would have melted by now from the nuclear-grade stupid you exude.
 
2009-07-01 05:09:57 PM  
PascalsGhost: WhileAmericaBurns: un4gvn666: WhileAmericaBurns: Huh. I thought you guys were all about change.

Nice non-sequitur. You're really winning hearts and minds here.

Non-sequitur? You're the one who's loudly proclaiming how much you love the status quo.

Status quo? You mean the way we are constitutionally mandated to legislate?


We're constitutionally mandated to run Congress like a whorehouse?
 
2009-07-01 05:10:48 PM  
cchris_39: Is there anything Obama apologists won't try to rationalize?

Considering that he took over two major automakers, drove them into bankruptcy, and split the carcasses between the federal government and his union buddies......probably not.

Hey $3.5B for ONE VOTE. Business as usual......


I didn't vote for Obama and have little respect for this congress.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It is our system of governance you retards.
 
2009-07-01 05:11:48 PM  
PascalsGhost: cchris_39: Is there anything Obama apologists won't try to rationalize?

Considering that he took over two major automakers, drove them into bankruptcy, and split the carcasses between the federal government and his union buddies......probably not.

Hey $3.5B for ONE VOTE. Business as usual......

I didn't vote for Obama and have little respect for this congress.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It is our system of governance you retards.


Stasis we can believe in.
 
2009-07-01 05:12:42 PM  
Von_Ruff: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating you dipshiats.

No, it's called buying a politician's vote by spending taxpayer money.


Hey flipdick, do me a favor and point out one single bill that wasn't a tax cut that wasn't spending taxpayer money your goddamned moron.

They govern the US, it by definition runs on taxpayer money. Again, basic farking American civics!
 
2009-07-01 05:14:21 PM  
Someone enlighten me, isn't cap and trade a neo-classical economic approach? Don't conservatives support this? It actually allows for the free market to deal with it's own problems as opposed to having government mandates on pollution.
 
2009-07-01 05:14:34 PM  
PascalsGhost: Von_Ruff: PascalsGhost: I know D.C. is a mess and money runs everything, but think about how farking stupid this outrage is.

She's from Ohio, a huge coal state that will be hit by the bill big time, the article even states this:

It was a payoff for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) to turn her back on coal-producing Ohio and vote to kill the economy in her state, and she wasn't alone:


So the state gets this to help overcome that:

stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.


So now she decides it won't hurt the economy and will offset costs, so she likes it for her state.


I mean, if this kind of normal horse trading and representing the needs of your district bothers you, you must get furious when unethical stuff starts.

This is called legislating you dipshiats.

No, it's called buying a politician's vote by spending taxpayer money.

Hey flipdick, do me a favor and point out one single bill that wasn't a tax cut that wasn't spending taxpayer money your goddamned moron.

They govern the US, it by definition runs on taxpayer money. Again, basic farking American civics!


They can spend it on whatever they want! It's a free-for-all! I mean, how can you possibly have a problem with that?! What are you, some kind of America hater??
 
2009-07-01 05:14:49 PM  
LOL, do you people think that rational Americans take you seriously? I mean, I know the guy rapping with you at the tea party loved you, but you do realize that people are laughing at your ignorance, right?

"OMFG money got spent legislating!!! A rep did what was best for her state!!"

Kill yourselves. Seriously. You aren't doing the world any good. Too stupid.
 
2009-07-01 05:16:13 PM  
The amusing thing is that if the money wouldn't have been put in to help Ohio then the faux outrage would be that the liburls had killed the economy.

To paraphrase Plato: those who do nothing but complain about the government will never be without an audience.
 
2009-07-01 05:16:28 PM  
PascalsGhost: LOL, do you people think that rational Americans take you seriously? I mean, I know the guy rapping with you at the tea party loved you, but you do realize that people are laughing at your ignorance, right?

"OMFG money got spent legislating!!! A rep did what was best for her state special interests!!"
 
2009-07-01 05:16:43 PM  
WhileAmericaBurns: They can spend it on whatever they want! It's a free-for-all! I mean, how can you possibly have a problem with that?! What are you, some kind of America hater??s

It's perfectly rational to be against the bill.

To be against the way it was legislated like this article is absurd.

justtray: Someone enlighten me, isn't cap and trade a neo-classical economic approach? Don't conservatives support this? It actually allows for the free market to deal with it's own problems as opposed to having government mandates on pollution.

Yes. Modern Republicans aren't economic conservatives. They are economic idiots. This is, in fact, the conservative way to do it.
 
2009-07-01 05:16:45 PM  
People always freak out whenever they hear about huge government spending. It's not like we're dumping the money in a hole. Pork helps the economy.
 
2009-07-01 05:17:13 PM  
PascalsGhost: cchris_39: Is there anything Obama apologists won't try to rationalize?

Considering that he took over two major automakers, drove them into bankruptcy, and split the carcasses between the federal government and his union buddies......probably not.

Hey $3.5B for ONE VOTE. Business as usual......

I didn't vote for Obama and have little respect for this congress.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It is our system of governance you retards.


Well, I guess there's nothing we can do. CLOSE UP SHOP, EVERYONE! This is how government can run, so I guess we should be okay with it and not question any decisions made and not disagree with what our government is doing... you know, since we live in a tyranny and all.

/Descent is the highest form of patriotic
 
2009-07-01 05:17:30 PM  
Zoophagous: The amusing thing is that if the money wouldn't have been put in to help Ohio then the faux outrage would be that the liburls had killed the economy.

To paraphrase Plato: those who do nothing but complain about the government will never be without an audience.


Said one who probably did nothing but complain about the government from 2001-2009.
 
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