If it weren't for Bush's ignorant "Axis of Evil" speech this revolution might have happened years ago. Tough talk is not always the way to go, Republicans.

We are "not supposed" to get interfere with other countries.

It is difficult to stand back and watch or be told what is happening in Iran. They live in a very different world from us. Certain freedoms we take for granted are not even allowed there.

But we have to stay out of it. Ahmadinejad has constantly blamed the "western" cultures for causing problems and this was when Obama had not said anything or done anything to provoke him.

Haven't we learned anything from Iraq? We should never have gone there and looked what happened. We're stuck. We gave our enemies more reasons to hate us. Lots of people have died with little to show for it.

We are not the "World Police" and it is about time we prove that to our neighbors.

He's putting the smackdown now because he has nothing to lose. He was (wisely) waiting until Ahmadinejad played the "OMG TEH RIOTS ARE AMERICUNS FAULT" card before saying, "Y'know what? We were gonna stay out of it, but if you want to throw down, we'll throw down. BTW Mahmoud, FARK YOU!!!!"

It's the appropriate response and the one I've been waiting for. I knew it would happen sooner or later -- just a matter of when. Obama knows that the Iranian people don't buy that tired bullshiat from Ahmadi anymore, so now he can freely condemn it all he wants.

GaryPDX: That was the only chance in 30 years to have done something for these people..uggggh. There won't be a chance for these freedom loving people for maybe decades to come. We could have done something more.

Oh, for fark's sake.

What is it with the right-wing in this country and their need to treat the rest of the world like children who can't take care of themselves? Does it stem from the same patronizing attitude that you're always right all the damned time?

I realize that you would enjoy nothing more than watching the United States military steal all of the glory from this budding revolution, totally reducing any sacrifices made by the Iranian people into trivialities and destroying any hope of a pro-West Iranian government. The Basij beating fellow Iranians is a hell of a lot different than the US accidentally leveling an apartment complex with a cruise missile.

This is their fight. Let them earn it.

Right-wingers are awfully fond of criticizing government handouts, like welfare ("Get a job!") or the economic bailouts. Right? When it comes to foreign policy, however, they want to spend even more money for one of the biggest possible handouts you could ever give a country: a completely new government. Instead of expecting them to work for their own freedom, you'd rather hand it to them and expect them to appreciate it. Seriously, what the hell? Where's that ever-popular "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" attitude?

I couldn't be happier that so many people in this thread aren't in charge of foreign policy. I really don't care how big your dicks are, or how much bigger you wish they were.

backdoor_nut_sucker: 3_Butt_Cheeks: backdoor_nut_sucker: Mentat: backdoor_nut_sucker: The prize, I'm guessing, would be a truly Islamic democracy in the same way that the US is a truly Christian democracy.

The US is a secular republic, not a Christian democracy.

good joke.

He's right. The US is a secular state.

No, he's wrong. That's what the US calls itself, but that doesn't make it true. Ask an Arab or Muslim nation what kind of republic the US is.

A United States created as a secular republic on Muslim principles would look very very different to what you have there now. It can't help but be Christian, or even more specifically Protestant. It was founded by Protestants and has been maintained by Protestants ever since. The Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans and Shintoists, haven't had a look in. The only group who have even got close was the Catholics with JFK, and look where that got him.

I really am not trying to troll here, BTW. I'm just calling it as I see it, and am perfectly willing to be corrected.

/not American

I thought you were just a clueless moron. Then you have to go and post this. My knee-jerk is obviously out of calibration.

+1

\why you make me have to go all objectiv-ey with people who say things I disagree with?

libbynomore2: yeah, I'm sure that Achmadinejerk is really intimidated by pussy Obama!!!!


lol

Do you think he was ever intimidated by Bush? Really?

Since it doesn't get any press, in 2005 Khamenei issued a fatwa stating that the development and storage of nuclear weapons is not compatible with Islam. He wasn't the first, nor the last, cleric to issue such a fatwa.

In a nutshell, Iran may not have a nuclear weapons program, ever, when the current regime, if not government, gets shoved out.

VwlssWndr: GaryPDX: That was the only chance in 30 years to have done something for these people..uggggh. There won't be a chance for these freedom loving people for maybe decades to come. We could have done something more.

Oh, for fark's sake.

What is it with the right-wing in this country and their need to treat the rest of the world like children who can't take care of themselves? Does it stem from the same patronizing attitude that you're always right all the damned time?

I realize that you would enjoy nothing more than watching the United States military steal all of the glory from this budding revolution, totally reducing any sacrifices made by the Iranian people into trivialities and destroying any hope of a pro-West Iranian government. The Basij beating fellow Iranians is a hell of a lot different than the US accidentally leveling an apartment complex with a cruise missile.

This is their fight. Let them earn it.

Right-wingers are awfully fond of criticizing government handouts, like welfare ("Get a job!") or the economic bailouts. Right? When it comes to foreign policy, however, they want to spend even more money for one of the biggest possible handouts you could ever give a country: a completely new government. Instead of expecting them to work for their own freedom, you'd rather hand it to them and expect them to appreciate it. Seriously, what the hell? Where's that ever-popular "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" attitude?

I couldn't be happier that so many people in this thread aren't in charge of foreign policy. I really don't care how big your dicks are, or how much bigger you wish they were.

Dumle: libbynomore2: yeah, I'm sure that Achmadinejerk is really intimidated by pussy Obama!!!!


lol

Do you think he was ever intimidated by Bush? Really?

Well, Obama is a wildcard. Amadingleberry knew what he was getting with Bush. Obama comes out all "peace love dope!" and then starts talking smack.

Plus, if Amadinawhackjob is any student of history, he knows that most of the past presidents of the 20th century that got us into wars were Democrats: Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson... might not be a track record he wants to mess with.

JonnyBGoode: Dumle: libbynomore2: yeah, I'm sure that Achmadinejerk is really intimidated by pussy Obama!!!!


lol

Do you think he was ever intimidated by Bush? Really?

Well, Obama is a wildcard. Amadingleberry knew what he was getting with Bush. Obama comes out all "peace love dope!" and then starts talking smack.

Plus, if Amadinawhackjob is any student of history, he knows that most of the past presidents of the 20th century that got us into wars were Democrats: Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson... might not be a track record he wants to mess with.

His name is foreign and that's funny. Right guys?

Caesar1313: His name is foreign and that's funny. Right guys?

Some people give insulting nicknames to individuals they don't like, and sometimes these nicknames are phonetically similar to the person's actual name. Are you comfortable with that explanation, or do I need to add a picture of Ric Romero to really drive home the obviousness?

/I can't believe someone actually tried getting all PC in Ahmadinejad's defense
//sorry, I misspelled that. It should read "I'madickwad's defense"

Caesar1313 Quote 2009-06-27 04:02:39 AM
JonnyBGoode: Dumle: libbynomore2: yeah, I'm sure that Achmadinejerk is really intimidated by pussy Obama!!!!


lol

Do you think he was ever intimidated by Bush? Really?

Well, Obama is a wildcard. Amadingleberry knew what he was getting with Bush. Obama comes out all "peace love dope!" and then starts talking smack.

Plus, if Amadinawhackjob is any student of history, he knows that most of the past presidents of the 20th century that got us into wars were Democrats: Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson... might not be a track record he wants to mess with.

His name is foreign and that's funny. Right guys?


Actually no....what would be funny is he turned up missing and his kidneys failed......oh, and if one of his daughters was raped and impregnated by A-Rod.

The list of good comedy just keeps growing......

Time-honored way to refer to one's enemies in ridicule. Remember Adolph Stickelgruber?

(And don't blame the Americans, it was the Brits that came up with that one.)

This is too special. organs failing, rape, rape, yes I said rape twice.


Actually no....what would be funny is he turned up missing and his kidneys failed......oh, and if one of his daughters was raped and impregnated by A-Rod.

CynicalLA: This is too special. organs failing, rape, rape, yes I said rape twice.


Actually no....what would be funny is he turned up missing and his kidneys failed......oh, and if one of his daughters was raped and impregnated by A-Rod.

Mrs. Merkel said the international community must help to identify victims who were beaten, arrested or killed by the Iranian government.

"We will not forget," she said through a translator. "Iran can't count on the world community turning a blind eye."

Chancellor Merkel can't speak English? I could have sworn I once saw her in a video clip with GWB speaking English. She was swearing up a storm, yelling "get your farking hands off me, you retarded dolt!".

Deagan Herumor: CynicalLA: This is too special. organs failing, rape, rape, yes I said rape twice.


Actually no....what would be funny is he turned up missing and his kidneys failed......oh, and if one of his daughters was raped and impregnated by A-Rod.

Don't worry, it will come to you. Everyone wants to be the the child of A-Rod.

His name is foreign and that's funny. Right guys?

No, he's a badly designed front-end for a poorly functioning operating system. Ripe for ridicule.

/lacking appropriate political translation for FOSS

If it was all about funny names, some farker would be making fun of a certain young woman's name who's last moments will likely haunt my dreams for the rest of my life. Ahmagonnabefrontin' deserves all he gets.

Holy shiat, the butthurt is OVER 9000 in this thread.

Obama did the right thing with Iran. Of course, PDX and the Merry Fark Independent Snark Squad (tm) have to make hay while the sun shines.

The pussy bows to public opinion polls and Fark thinks he is a hero. This place is awesome.

Thunderpipes: The pussy bows to public opinion polls and Fark thinks he is a hero. This place is awesome.

Oh hey, the Amazing Racist is here too! Marvelous.

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Thunderpipes: The pussy bows to public opinion polls and Fark thinks he is a hero. This place is awesome.

Oh hey, the Amazing Racist is here too! Marvelous.

Meh. Low-octane troll. Brought a Yugo to the track on race day. Obviously had an occasion to rise to.

wow the freeper troll brigade has been fully deployed in this thread. there's whargarball everywhere.

Isildur: AdolfOliverPanties: He should have rubbed her shoulders. The woman looks tense.

Bahaha!
Thanks, remembering that incident never fails to make me laugh.



Wtf was he thinking?

My dad whupped your dad's ass in WW2.

That's what he was thinking. That's the thinking that got us to the point we could turn it over to our functioning moronic for a while. You proud of democrats in congress are ya? Wait until we get bombed again. These farks will be running to hide behind the nearest Republican.

FTFA:
Mrs. Merkel said the international community must help to identify
victims who were beaten, arrested or killed by the Iranian government.

The international community (and the U.S. in particular) should
be quietly working on creating a database of any images of the
government thugs who are beating and killing Iranian citizens,
so that if/when the people of Iran are finally free, those thugs
can be rounded up and dealt with in the proper manner.

Control_this: Can one of you cheerleaders loan me a pom pom. I lost mine at the rah rah rally.



/not a cheerleader
//just tryin' to help a fellow farker out.

hariseldon: The international community (and the U.S. in particular) should
be quietly working on creating a database of any images of the
government thugs who are beating and killing Iranian citizens,
so that if/when the people of Iran are finally free, those thugs
can be rounded up and dealt with in the proper manner.


Some anonymous people are looking into that. With a twist.

backdoor_nut_sucker: No, he's wrong. That's what the US calls itself, but that doesn't make it true. Ask an Arab or Muslim nation what kind of republic the US is.

Because, when I want to know what something really is, I always go to the folks who live under totalitarian religious governments that run state TV stations that blare propaganda left and right.

The US was born as a secular republic, and, despite the best efforts of the Religious Right to change it, we remain a secular republic.

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: Control_this: Can one of you cheerleaders loan me a pom pom. I lost mine at the rah rah rally.



/not a cheerleader
//just tryin' to help a fellow farker out.

Awesome. Have a month of TF on me. Go win a photoshop. Run, horsemen, run!

oops. I just realized that was someone else's GIF. Oh well. Enjoy your month of TF. Don't tell them I sent you -- it's better for you that way.

How arrogant are all these right wingers thinking only the holy US of A is capable of "giving" democracy and freedom to others? No, sir, the Iranians couldn't possibly fight their own battle here to create a system of government of their own choosing. Poor little persians - they must be so new to the world stage. (sarcasm off)

Seriously, the Iranian people only asked that the world hear them and help them keep communication going when the government cracks down. They did NOT ask us to come in guns a blazing and make things worse for us. They did NOT ask Obama to be their personal savior, and he has respected that. This is about the Iranian people, not the USA. They know their country, their culture, and the politics better than outsiders. They will win their own freedom back; it is the only way to true liberty.

/ssssooooooo glad Republicans are no longer in charge

The President did everything right here and lo and behold, the right-wingers blasted him and "I'mastarinjihad" blamed him for interfering anyway.

We haven't had a vote for President that has been more obviously justified, more immediately, since 1980.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: You proud of democrats in congress are ya? Wait until we get bombed again. These farks will be running to hide behind the nearest Republican.

There's nothing you Republicans would love better than an attack on American soil, is there?

StrangeQ: docweasel: No, obambi is trying to save face after Iran made him look like a farking pussy by rubbing his nose in his own shiat. The idea we should talk to ANYONE currently running Iran was a farking stupid idea when Hussein Obama suggested it during the campaign and it's even stupider now. The US looks weak and the Arab world has lost the respect GWBush took years building.

Obama wants credit for the Iran revolution? It will cause lefty heads to explode, but Bush deserves 100% of the credit for the rejection of a fixed vote (which is actually normal in all Arab countries) because Iranians can look next door and see a functioning democracy THANKS TO GWB and it lets them know what IS possible. In the years to come, it will spread beyond Lebanon and Iran. And Bush will deserve the credit.

The sooner Obama is impeached or somehow removed from office the better. He is ruining the country domestically and internationally. He cannot be allowed to destroy us for 4 years. He must be removed.

What are you smoking, and more importantly, where can I get some?

While a bit over the top with his condemnation of Obama here, docweasel is basically correct. Creating democratic institutions in Iraq and Afghanistan, even half-assed ones, still proves to the people of the Middle East that "strong man" dictatorships need not be the norm.

If the Iranian revolution succeeds here, it will be largely due to, and a vindication of, the Bush foreign policy.

Control_this: oops. I just realized that was someone else's GIF. Oh well. Enjoy your month of TF. Don't tell them I sent you -- it's better for you that way.

WOW, Thanks man!

/zippered.

While a bit over the top with his condemnation of Obama here, docweasel is basically correct. Creating democratic institutions in Iraq and Afghanistan, even half-assed ones, still proves to the people of the Middle East that "strong man" dictatorships need not be the norm.

If the Iranian revolution succeeds here, it will be largely due to, and a vindication of, the Bush foreign policy.

Bingo. Libs get all teary eyed when ideas like freewing Rwanda and Darfur from the crap going on there, you know why? Because it would be easy. They hate the idea of Iraq or Iran or NK because it is hard. Libs don't like hard things, unless it is Obama's shaft in their buttocks hole.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes:
My dad whupped your dad's ass in WW2.
That's what he was thinking. That's the thinking that got us to the point we could turn it over to our functioning moronic for a while. You proud of democrats in congress are ya? Wait until we get bombed again. These farks will be running to hide behind the nearest Republican.





Unless you were just being facetious or trolling, you really need to find yourself a sense of humor. And possibly some fiber.

I think if America is accused of something we should do it. That'll teach 'em.

not a fan of Obama, but I can't lie, I am was very happy to see his stance is firm and his posture on the issue is clear. I have listened to him dance around way to many topics, however, there is no mistake on what he meant here. He did it without being overly aggressive but got his point across.

HURR DURRR WE SHUD NEWK DA RANIANS CAUS DEYS GOT LECSHIONS N STUF

Chickenhawk party FTW.

novent939: not a fan of Obama, but I can't lie, I am was very happy to see his stance is firm and his posture on the issue is clear. I have listened to him dance around way to many topics, however, there is no mistake on what he meant here. He did it without being overly aggressive but got his point across.

Pretty easy to be firm on a stance that means nothing. I can say squirrels are evil, and be firm about it. Obama did nothing more.

About.
Farking.
Time.

Oh wait... It's Obama. I meant, what precise timing Mr. POTUS. Hopefully, Oprah will also be proud.

Thunderpipes: While a bit over the top with his condemnation of Obama here, docweasel is basically correct. Creating democratic institutions in Iraq and Afghanistan, even half-assed ones, still proves to the people of the Middle East that "strong man" dictatorships need not be the norm.

If the Iranian revolution succeeds here, it will be largely due to, and a vindication of, the Bush foreign policy.

Bingo. Libs get all teary eyed when ideas like freewing Rwanda and Darfur from the crap going on there, you know why? Because it would be easy. They hate the idea of Iraq or Iran or NK because it is hard. Libs don't like hard things, unless it is Obama's shaft in their buttocks hole.

"It would be easy"? This I've got to hear more about. Do please tell us this "easy" plan you have got stashed away. I would love to hear how you are going to fix the situations in Rwanda and Darfur.

Has anyone asked GW what he would do?