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2009-06-25 04:12:59 PM
There's a good way to get Ahaminejad the support he needs. Thanks, John.
 
2009-06-25 04:13:24 PM
umm ok. he does know that's an act of war right?
 
2009-06-25 04:13:27 PM
He should send out emails about this.
 
2009-06-25 04:14:44 PM
Hobodeluxe: umm ok. he does know that's an act of war right?

Of course he does. His base on the other hand...
 
2009-06-25 04:17:59 PM
That is the most clever and amusing terrible idea i have ever heard. i am almost pleasantly surprised at McPancakes.
 
2009-06-25 04:19:44 PM
Somebody did inform McCain he lost, right?

Subby needs a copy of the procedure for the correct usage of the dumbass tag.
 
2009-06-25 04:21:24 PM
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What has two thumbs and doesn't know sh*t about diplomacy and wireless internet broadcasting?
 
2009-06-25 04:21:27 PM
ravenlore: That is the most clever and amusing terrible idea i have ever heard. i am almost pleasantly surprised at McPancakes.

Lol, I miss that nickname. And yeah, that would be more than enough ammo for Ahaminejad to use against the Satanic west.
 
2009-06-25 04:21:40 PM
Launchpad McQuack strikes again!
 
2009-06-25 04:21:56 PM
Hobodeluxe: umm ok. he does know that's an act of war right?

THIS.

Also, that's not exactly how it works. I mean, I guess it would be technically possible to equip the drones to provide connectivity, but the gear required would weigh them down and reduce their flying time.
 
2009-06-25 04:22:56 PM
I'm drunk right now so I have a hard time seeing that this would be a bad thing. Could someone spell out why it would be a bad thing?
 
2009-06-25 04:23:11 PM
What kind of wifi is going to work from several thousand feet up? My wifi cards have issues with a LOS range of 200' let alone 100 times that much.

So lets play devil's advocate and imagine that the whole range of the wifi was not a problem with the predator cruising at a high altitude. So how are they going to handle the upstream bandwidth from the predator to the net? A really long ethernet cable? I'm relatively certain microwave would take more power than would be available and cellphone data networks (GPRS/3G) are probably not an option since they're state monitored. I really doubt satellite linkup is an option either, but could be wrong.
 
2009-06-25 04:24:12 PM
WTFDYW: I'm drunk right now so I have a hard time seeing that this would be a bad thing. Could someone spell out why it would be a bad thing?

It would incite the Iranian conservatives and support their "great Satan" assertions about US interference in Iran, and Iranians are already getting online without it.

That leaves out any technical issues, which I'm sure are multiple.
 
2009-06-25 04:24:26 PM
It's a series of ..predator drones and tubes.
 
2009-06-25 04:25:22 PM
WTFDYW: I'm drunk right now so I have a hard time seeing that this would be a bad thing. Could someone spell out why it would be a bad thing?

Did you miss the whole act of war comment?
 
2009-06-25 04:25:41 PM
Well, I see no mention of this ACT OF WAR! anywhere in this article.
 
2009-06-25 04:25:53 PM
an act of war? really, john? thank christ mccain isn't president right now.
 
2009-06-25 04:27:32 PM
I'm sure there would be massive technical issues unless the gubment has shiat the rest of the world can't use to expand upstream bandwidth to the net.
 
2009-06-25 04:28:07 PM
Elzar: I really doubt satellite linkup is an option either, but could be wrong.

Only if they had another set of drones dropping equipment that can communicate with the satellites. I doubt the average Iranian equivalent to Radio Shack carries them.
 
2009-06-25 04:29:25 PM
what they really need are phone cards and duplication machines
 
2009-06-25 04:29:33 PM
They must be stealth drones, because I can't see them anywhere in the article.
 
2009-06-25 04:33:17 PM
I'd love to have such a setup circling my house, if it passed close to any fast food places it it's pattern it could pick me up a snack now and then also.

Thanks for screwing me out of that possibility, libs. Thanks a lot.
 
2009-06-25 04:33:52 PM
WTFDYW: I'm sure there would be massive technical issues unless the gubment has shiat the rest of the world can't use to expand upstream bandwidth to the net.

Even if they did it would require equipment on the ground that currently isn't there.

Some of what would be needed could be implemented by things like pringles can antennas, I suppose. It would still only be useful in the areas immediately next to the border. There's an assload of mountains between there and Tehran.
 
2009-06-25 04:34:50 PM
TFA: "And McCain vowed to investigate charges that non-Iranian firms helped Tehran monitor and block cellular and online traffic"

From what I've heard, we already know/have a good idea where Iran got the technology to do this: Link (new window)
 
2009-06-25 04:35:12 PM
What a moron. THIS is who you republicans wanted for President? No wonder you're a spent force.
 
2009-06-25 04:35:17 PM
The internet is not a truck. It is a series of Predator drones.
 
2009-06-25 04:36:02 PM
A Predator at 150 feet, or do they expect people to have one HELL of a cantenna?
 
2009-06-25 04:36:38 PM
kronicfeld: The internet is not a truck. It is a series of Predator drones.

Win.
 
2009-06-25 04:36:39 PM
6 months ago, he doesn't know how to send an email and now he is Eugene, the wireless network infrastructure guy. Must be spending quality time with Meghan.
 
2009-06-25 04:37:15 PM
Whatever happened to the idea that it was "presumptuous" and "arrogant" for a sitting Senator to interfere in the President's exclusive jurisdiction over foreign relations?

Oh, wait, everything changed on 1/20/09. Never forget.
 
2009-06-25 04:41:06 PM
It's interesting how many people didn't get any farther than the headline:

Subby: "MCSAME WANTS TO SEND PREDATOR DRONES TO GIVE WIFI TO IRANLOLOLOL!

TFA: - "We don't take the side of either candidate. There seems to be some confusion about that.

"We take the side of the Iranian people to have human rights, to have the freedom that we deem universal"


- "McCain said the legislation aimed to boost funding to Radio FARDA, a part of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, to help the Farsi-language outlet battle Iranian jamming, and to make cellular telephone crackdowns more difficult."

- All three lawmakers praised US President Barack Obama for making his toughest remarks yet on Iran during a press conference Tuesday, denouncing the crackdown and warning of worsening relations with the international community.

"I appreciate it," said McCain, who had sharply criticized Obama's previous remarks, while Graham declared: "I'm very proud of my president, about what he said."
 
2009-06-25 04:44:15 PM
BritneysSpeculum: 6 months ago, he doesn't know how to send an email and now he is Eugene, the wireless network infrastructure guy. Must be spending quality time with Meghan.

My LCD is now covered in partially masticated chocolate chunk cookie. i will be sending you an invoice for the repairs.
 
2009-06-25 04:44:18 PM
Nabb1: They must be stealth drones, because I can't see them anywhere in the article.

Shostie: It's interesting how many people didn't get any farther than the headline:

Oh come now...let's not let facts get in the way of a good expression of misplaced OUTRAGE!
 
2009-06-25 04:44:19 PM
I think it all boils down to whether he wants to give them AOL or Netzero accounts.
 
2009-06-25 04:44:24 PM
Shostie: It's interesting how many people didn't get any farther than the headline:

Oh, let them go on. I'm enjoying this. I guess this is what the kids like to call "WHARGARRBL."
 
2009-06-25 04:44:29 PM
I bet anyone 1 internet that if I sat John McCain down and asked him to explain WiFi to me in two sentences or less, he would end up talking about a typewriter.
 
2009-06-25 04:45:07 PM
Would that really be an act of war, though, if the drones do not enter Iranian airspace?
 
2009-06-25 04:46:00 PM
It's not just the outrage in this thread, it's the anger. Typical libs.

Good thing there are folks willing to crack down on this sort of behavior around here... well, half the time anyway.
 
2009-06-25 04:46:24 PM
Can't we just build bigger tubes in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
2009-06-25 04:47:08 PM
Shostie: - "McCain said the legislation aimed to boost funding to Radio FARDA, a part of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, to help the Farsi-language outlet battle Iranian jamming, and to make cellular telephone crackdowns more difficult."

So, wait, is he advocating providing material support to actively interfere with policies and activities of the Iranian government?
 
2009-06-25 04:47:41 PM
Mordant: It's not just the outrage in this thread, it's the anger. Typical libs.

Good thing there are folks willing to crack down on this sort of behavior around here... well, half the time anyway.


Don't hurt yourself pulling that hook out of your mouth, Sparky.
 
2009-06-25 04:48:36 PM
Nabb1: Shostie: It's interesting how many people didn't get any farther than the headline:

Oh, let them go on. I'm enjoying this. I guess this is what the kids like to call "WHARGARRBL."


OK, I admit I am guilty. Having read the article, subby did, indeed, fool me and I fully deserve the charge of WHARGARRBL.
 
2009-06-25 04:49:04 PM
Ctrl F: "drone" Phrase not found.

Oops, submitter, I think you linked the wrong article.
 
2009-06-25 04:49:52 PM
kronicfeld: Shostie: - "McCain said the legislation aimed to boost funding to Radio FARDA, a part of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, to help the Farsi-language outlet battle Iranian jamming, and to make cellular telephone crackdowns more difficult."

So, wait, is he advocating providing material support to actively interfere with policies and activities of the Iranian government?


I don't see any problem with boosting the signal for Radio Free Whatever, honestly. The second part, about the cell phones, seems a bit sketchier to me, though.

Feel free to get outraged over that.
 
2009-06-25 04:52:57 PM
Tatsuma: Would that really be an act of war, though, if the drones do not enter Iranian airspace?

Well, no...except the whole plan wouldn't work if they weren't in iranian airspace


/idea wouldn't work even then, but you get my drift
 
2009-06-25 04:58:09 PM
Remember: it's not violating their sovereignty if there's nobody in the cockpit.
 
2009-06-25 04:58:41 PM
Obama: We can't meddle in Iran's affairs, it would be exactly what they want us to do. Ahmedenijad: US meddling in Iran's affairs. GOP Senators: We need to meddle in Iran's affairs.

Wow, Republicans. Keep making sure that I will never vote for one of you again.
 
2009-06-25 05:01:25 PM
kronicfeld: Whatever happened to the idea that it was "presumptuous" and "arrogant" for a sitting Senator to interfere in the President's exclusive jurisdiction over foreign relations?

Oh, wait, everything changed on 1/20/09. Never Nevar forget!!11!!one!1


FTFY
 
2009-06-25 05:01:36 PM
The bill...would seek to give Iranians the tools "to evade the censorship and surveillance of the regime online," he said.

What could go wrong?
 
2009-06-25 05:01:59 PM
Shostie: Feel free to get outraged over that.

I can count on one hand the number of things that have "outraged" me in the last couple years. This isn't one of them. Feel free to impute emotions to me at your leisure, though.
 
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