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2009-06-24 01:55:45 AM
Josh Marshall of TPM just tweeted that, as of 1 a.m. this morning, Sanford still hasn't returned to the governor's mansion.

Pretty odd behavior for someone who's been missing for days and is supposed to report for work first thing this morning.
 
2009-06-24 01:57:13 AM
Klingon Penis: Josh Marshall of TPM just tweeted that, as of 1 a.m. this morning, Sanford still hasn't returned to the governor's mansion.

Pretty odd behavior for someone who's been missing for days and is supposed to report for work first thing this morning.


I have a feeling his career is over. And his marriage.
 
2009-06-24 01:57:19 AM
Sabyen91: Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)

This is important, since catching a flight from Columbia to ATL, then renting a car to the start of the trail would make sense if you're coming from the midlands.

However, it still doesn't explain why a federal agent spotted him catching a flight at Hartsfield-Jackson.

I've got more issues with his story, but I'll bring those up later. Got an issue to deal with ATM.

Where does the AT start? Not in SC?


Sorry, I didn't mean to be short earlier, but I was getting some bad news over the phone.

Anyway, the Appalachian Trial starts in North Georgia, a Sabyen91: Hz so good: Sabyen91: Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)

This is important, since catching a flight from Columbia to ATL, then renting a car to the start of the trail would make sense if you're coming from the midlands.

However, it still doesn't explain why a federal agent spotted him catching a flight at Hartsfield-Jackson.

I've got more issues with his story, but I'll bring those up later. Got an issue to deal with ATM.

Where does the AT start? Not in SC?

No, it starts in North Georgia, hence the ATL connection.

No, not hence. He is in SC. Driving to ATL would make no sense, would it?


Sorry, I didn't mean to be short earlier. Got some terrible news on the phone.

Anyway, you asked where the App trail started. It technically starts in North Georgia, which is why flying from columbia to atlanta would make sense, since the start of the trail is 80 miles north of Atlanta.

In upstate south carolina, we are on what's called a piedmont. Basically we're on a giant plateau that extends down from the foothills of the Appalachians all the way to the Midlands. We don't, however, really have any part of the App trail to speak of. That's why many of us here in the Upstate drive to NC to jump on the trail. And that's why I'm wondering why the hell he had to start there? If he really was there.

/Apologies for the rambling. Had a few beers writing this, after what I just found out.
 
2009-06-24 01:59:19 AM
Hz so good: Hz so good.

Oh for the love of...

*self-facepalm*
 
2009-06-24 02:00:21 AM
Hz so good: Sabyen91: Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)

This is important, since catching a flight from Columbia to ATL, then renting a car to the start of the trail would make sense if you're coming from the midlands.

However, it still doesn't explain why a federal agent spotted him catching a flight at Hartsfield-Jackson.

I've got more issues with his story, but I'll bring those up later. Got an issue to deal with ATM.

Where does the AT start? Not in SC?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be short earlier, but I was getting some bad news over the phone.

Anyway, the Appalachian Trial starts in North Georgia, a Sabyen91: Hz so good: Sabyen91: Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)

This is important, since catching a flight from Columbia to ATL, then renting a car to the start of the trail would make sense if you're coming from the midlands.

However, it still doesn't explain why a federal agent spotted him catching a flight at Hartsfield-Jackson.

I've got more issues with his story, but I'll bring those up later. Got an issue to deal with ATM.

Where does the AT start? Not in SC?

No, it starts in North Georgia, hence the ATL connection.

No, not hence. He is in SC. Driving to ATL would make no sense, would it?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be short earlier. Got some terrible news on the phone.

Anyway, you asked where the App trail started. It technically starts in North Georgia, which is why flying from columbia to atlanta would make sense, since the start of the trail is 80 miles north of Atlanta.

In upstate south carolina, we are on what's called a piedmont. Basically we're on a giant plateau that extends down from the foothills of the Appalachians all the way to the Midlands. We don't, however, really have any part of the App trail to speak of. That's why many of us here in the Upstate drive to NC to jump on the trail. And that's why I'm wondering why the hell he had to start there? If he really was there.

/Apologies for the rambling. Had a few beers writing this, after what I just found out.


Cool, thanks. I read North Georgia as North Carolina when you said it earlier. It is certainly weird his wife knew nothing of it.
 
2009-06-24 02:01:00 AM
He better have a good explanation for this or any hope he might have of higher office is shot. You just can't be that kind of undependable. It looks bad.
 
2009-06-24 02:03:34 AM
Sabyen91: I have a feeling his career is over. And his marriage.

He could be dead for all we know.
Every update on his status has been through a second or third party.
 
2009-06-24 02:04:34 AM
Klingon Penis: Sabyen91: I have a feeling his career is over. And his marriage.

He could be dead for all we know.
Every update on his status has been through a second or third party.


That would be a strange and sad update.
 
2009-06-24 02:06:33 AM
Sabyen91:
Cool, thanks. I read North Georgia as North Carolina when you said it earlier. It is certainly weird his wife knew nothing of it.


NP.

I agree, it's definitely odd his wife had no clue. When I was still married, I always made sure my wife knew where I was, just in case something happened.

Something else that's bugging me is that in previous interviews, he's always said that he loves hiking/camping/hunting with his sons, and yet on fathers day he's not only is "missing", but has his phone OFF and his sons were with Mom.

Something is definitely rotten in the state of Denmark.
 
2009-06-24 02:10:32 AM
wax_on: He better have a good explanation for this or any hope he might have of higher office is shot. You just can't be that kind of undependable. It looks bad.

---

What explanation could possibly excuse a state Governor being completely out of touch, location unknown, for FIVE Farking DAYS?

The voters won't care if he was rescuing stranded kittens, he's the governor, he needs to be very reachable. He also needs to be very dependable and very stable. He's failed all those tests.

Even if it turns out he was getting medical checks, it won't excuse his behavior. The scandal isn't about what he was doing, it's what he obviously didn't do. He didn't act responsibly.
 
2009-06-24 02:11:42 AM
Sabyen91: That would be a strange and sad update.

Let's say that bobbette's Mayo Clinic theory is actually true, and he had to rush to Minneapolis because they'd discovered the governor's ball sweat is the cure for multiple sclerosis;

it would still be fantastically irresponsible of him to abandon his post the way he has, and he should and will suffer the political consequences.
 
2009-06-24 02:11:43 AM
img195.imageshack.us
 
2009-06-24 02:12:37 AM
Governor Sanford 1960-2009

He was delicious.
 
2009-06-24 02:13:27 AM
Klingon Penis: Sabyen91: I have a feeling his career is over. And his marriage.

He could be dead for all we know.
Every update on his status has been through a second or third party.


His aides say he's coming back from his magical mystery tour today, so I'm pretty sure he's not dead.

Politically, maybe. Certain republicans in the state are already downplaying it, so you never know.
 
2009-06-24 02:14:13 AM
Hz so good: Something is definitely rotten in the state of Denmark.

What are you talking about? King Hamlet isn't dead, he simply enjoys his solitude.
 
2009-06-24 02:14:42 AM
Klingon Penis: Sabyen91: That would be a strange and sad update.

Let's say that bobbette's Mayo Clinic theory is actually true, and he had to rush to Minneapolis because they'd discovered the governor's ball sweat is the cure for multiple sclerosis;

it would still be fantastically irresponsible of him to abandon his post the way he has, and he should and will suffer the political consequences.


I don't disagree. And nobody knowing where he was...that is just off.
 
2009-06-24 02:15:19 AM
NewportBarGuy: Governor Sanford 1960-2009

He was delicious.


I don't know why, but that cracked me up. :)

Thank you! I needed that!

/Still hoping for Boyotes.
 
2009-06-24 02:15:33 AM
I lol'd apistat. That must have been the first Oregon Trail.
 
2009-06-24 02:22:21 AM
Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)




Definitely drugs then.
 
2009-06-24 02:24:39 AM
Let's try that again:

www.medicstravel.co.uk

Definitely drugs then.
 
2009-06-24 02:27:51 AM
El Pachuco: Let's try that again:



Definitely drugs then.


Bogota, please...
 
2009-06-24 02:31:03 AM
El Pachuco: Let's try that again:



Definitely drugs then.


Threadjack:

Some of the most beautiful women I've even know have been Colombian.
 
2009-06-24 02:31:38 AM
Hz so good: El Pachuco: Let's try that again:



Definitely drugs then.

Threadjack:

Some of the most beautiful women I've even know have been Colombian.


And Brazilian...mmmmm.
 
2009-06-24 02:33:06 AM
He has a secret family.
 
2009-06-24 02:33:18 AM
Hz so good: even known

EVER
known

*facepalm*

Christ, I'm just going to give up for the night.
 
2009-06-24 02:34:57 AM
I never realized Mark Sanford was such a pretty white girl.
 
2009-06-24 02:36:44 AM
Sabyen91: Hz so good: El Pachuco: Let's try that again:



Definitely drugs then.

Threadjack:

Some of the most beautiful women I've even know have been Colombian.

And Brazilian...mmmmm.


Careful. They beat Colombians in sheer cocaine usage.

*the more you knooooooow!*
 
2009-06-24 02:36:55 AM
Sabyen91: I lol'd apistat. That must have been the first Oregon Trail.

I would totally play an Appalachian Trail hack of it. If a party member dies you could replace them because you brought along an attractive cousin. In addition to buying food at the beginning you also have to stock up on Mountain Dew. You have to rest five days when a member of your party is stricken with meth mouth.

/I could keep going...
 
2009-06-24 02:37:53 AM
Okay:

1. - It is not logical to catch a flight from Columbia to Atlanta to rent a car to the start of the Appalachian Trail. You can drive to the trailhead near Gainesville, GA from Col'a in about 3.5 hours. From the ATL airport (south of Atlanta) to the same place is about 1.5 hours. Add on the flight and the trouble of renting a car or getting transit to the Trail, and it's just stupid. No one I know would fly from Columbia to Atlanta to get to Gainesville.

2. - His wife lied. She knows where the fark he is, but it's alot more diplomatic for her to say "He just needed to get away" than to say, "None of your farking business."

3. - His staff knows where he is. They're not telling, but they know. He told them where he was going.

And finally, 4. - Is this guy farking NUTS??? When you're a Governor, you can;t just decide to chuck it all for a while and do whatever you damn well please. You have duties. I swear to Elvis, if any one of us pulled this shiat, we'd be fired.

Now that that's over... am I the only one wondering if he's going to try to do something incredibly stupid and meddlesome in the MidEast?
 
2009-06-24 02:39:07 AM
apistat: Sabyen91: I lol'd apistat. That must have been the first Oregon Trail.

I would totally play an Appalachian Trail hack of it. If a party member dies you could replace them because you brought along an attractive cousin. In addition to buying food at the beginning you also have to stock up on Mountain Dew. You have to rest five days when a member of your party is stricken with meth mouth.

/I could keep going...


Hehe, and just like in the 1800's the dentists are also the butchers.
 
2009-06-24 02:39:28 AM
Benevolent Misanthrope: 2. - His wife lied. She knows where the fark he is, but it's alot more diplomatic for her to say "He just needed to get away" than to say, "None of your farking business."

lol, the wife is usually the last to know anything
 
2009-06-24 02:52:45 AM
Klingon Penis: Josh Marshall of TPM just tweeted that, as of 1 a.m. this morning, Sanford still hasn't returned to the governor's mansion.

Pretty odd behavior for someone who's been missing for days and is supposed to report for work first thing this morning.


I love that they're stalking him and are camped out outside his house...

Klingon Penis: Sabyen91: That would be a strange and sad update.

Let's say that bobbette's Mayo Clinic theory is actually true, and he had to rush to Minneapolis because they'd discovered the governor's ball sweat is the cure for multiple sclerosis;

it would still be fantastically irresponsible of him to abandon his post the way he has, and he should and will suffer the political consequences.


Hey, it's not MY theory. It's Nate Silver's. I'm just saying it's within the realm of possibility.

Also, it's not that irresponsible. People take vacations from executive positions all the time when no important state business is pending. I'm pretty sure George W. Bush spent half his time as President clearing brush and his job was a lot more important. A long weekend isn't so bad. Believe me, this is nowhere near as bad as when my province's premier was on vacation in Maui and ended up getting busted with a DUI (he's since been re-elected... twice.) And if you are thinking "Yeah, but Mark Sanford didn't take his phone" - is it better if someone DOES take their phone along if they're drunk off their ass the whole time?
 
2009-06-24 02:54:23 AM
bobbette: Klingon Penis: Josh Marshall of TPM just tweeted that, as of 1 a.m. this morning, Sanford still hasn't returned to the governor's mansion.

Pretty odd behavior for someone who's been missing for days and is supposed to report for work first thing this morning.

I love that they're stalking him and are camped out outside his house...

Klingon Penis: Sabyen91: That would be a strange and sad update.

Let's say that bobbette's Mayo Clinic theory is actually true, and he had to rush to Minneapolis because they'd discovered the governor's ball sweat is the cure for multiple sclerosis;

it would still be fantastically irresponsible of him to abandon his post the way he has, and he should and will suffer the political consequences.

Hey, it's not MY theory. It's Nate Silver's. I'm just saying it's within the realm of possibility.

Also, it's not that irresponsible. People take vacations from executive positions all the time when no important state business is pending. I'm pretty sure George W. Bush spent half his time as President clearing brush and his job was a lot more important. A long weekend isn't so bad. Believe me, this is nowhere near as bad as when my province's premier was on vacation in Maui and ended up getting busted with a DUI (he's since been re-elected... twice.) And if you are thinking "Yeah, but Mark Sanford didn't take his phone" - is it better if someone DOES take their phone along if they're drunk off their ass the whole time?


Well, a scheduled vacation IS a bit different from disappearing for several days.
 
2009-06-24 02:55:51 AM
Mentat: Why would you go hiking naked in the mountains? Your dick would be so covered in ticks it would look like a loofah.

Bill O'Reilly?
 
2009-06-24 02:57:00 AM
Benevolent Misanthrope:
Now that that's over... am I the only one wondering if he's going to try to do something incredibly stupid and meddlesome in the MidEast?


I don't believe it's over until I see him get out at the Governor's Mansion...

NEW THEORY

He's decided to fly solo missions over Iran parachuting in "duplicating machines".
 
2009-06-24 02:58:55 AM
Sabyen91:

Well, a scheduled vacation IS a bit different from disappearing for several days.


He did tell his staff he was going on vacation. That's fairly scheduled.
 
2009-06-24 03:00:53 AM
bobbette: Sabyen91:

Well, a scheduled vacation IS a bit different from disappearing for several days.

He did tell his staff he was going on vacation. That's fairly scheduled.


Nobody knew where he was. His own wife didn't know where he was. That is hardly normal.
 
2009-06-24 03:02:09 AM
Sabyen91: Hz so good: Sabyen91: Hz so good: Jumping in this late, but the SLED SUV may have been found in COLUMBIA, not Atlanta. (new window)

This is important, since catching a flight from Columbia to ATL, then renting a car to the start of the trail would make sense if you're coming from the midlands.

However, it still doesn't explain why a federal agent spotted him catching a flight at Hartsfield-Jackson.

I've got more issues with his story, but I'll bring those up later. Got an issue to deal with ATM.

Where does the AT start? Not in SC?

No, it starts in North Georgia, hence the ATL connection.

No, not hence. He is in SC. Driving to ATL would make no sense, would it?


It would if he plans to walk to Maine.
 
2009-06-24 03:03:33 AM
Benevolent Misanthrope: Okay:

1. - It is not logical to catch a flight from Columbia to Atlanta to rent a car to the start of the Appalachian Trail. You can drive to the trailhead near Gainesville, GA from Col'a in about 3.5 hours. From the ATL airport (south of Atlanta) to the same place is about 1.5 hours. Add on the flight and the trouble of renting a car or getting transit to the Trail, and it's just stupid. No one I know would fly from Columbia to Atlanta to get to Gainesville.


A) It is logical if you're a Governor. If you don't want to make the drive, you don't have to. You can get a flight, no matter how short.

B) Have you personally driven that route and clocked the time? Because I'm thinking you can't get there that fast.


2. - His wife lied. She knows where the fark he is, but it's alot more diplomatic for her to say "He just needed to get away" than to say, "None of your farking business."


Wouldn't surprise me in the least, and would actually explain a lot of this. They could very well be having marital issues.


3. - His staff knows where he is. They're not telling, but they know. He told them where he was going.


If they knew, and knowingly lied for him, it's open season on their jobs.


And finally, 4. - Is this guy farking NUTS??? When you're a Governor, you can;t just decide to chuck it all for a while and do whatever you damn well please. You have duties. I swear to Elvis, if any one of us pulled this shiat, we'd be fired.>/i>



Remember, this is the guy who drove live pigs into the statehouse to prove a point about pork projects. He went full retard long ago.


Now that that's over... am I the only one wondering if he's going to try to do something incredibly stupid and meddlesome in the MidEast?

It wouldn't surprise me...
 
2009-06-24 03:04:03 AM
my money is on cancer or some incurable disease.

That would be awesome.
 
2009-06-24 03:06:36 AM
dkny: my money is on cancer or some incurable disease.

That would be awesome.


It's all part of Obama's master plan to knock all possible and probable Republican contenders for 2012 out of the way via plum appoints and incurable diseases.
 
2009-06-24 03:20:23 AM
Okay, he says, I need a break, and packs his camping gear in the car. Wife is okay with this.

The car shows up in Columbia airport, camping gear inside.

The cell phone is traced to Atlanta, where it is then turned off.

The guy is then spotted by feds boarding a plane in Atlanta.

He says he will be back at work this morning. I know that his car, the Columbia and Atlanta airports are all crawling with reporters.

If he can get back to his office without revealing every detail of his trip, his name isn't Mark Sanford, it's Jason Bourne.
 
2009-06-24 03:33:32 AM
BiffDangler: Who cares where he went? If a Democrat did this you all would be thinking its so cool that he ditches his security detail and gets out into the real world.
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Wow, the reality delusion field is strong in this one.

The hard truth is that if Sanford was a Democratic politician, Drudge would have him photoshopped into a "Where's Waldo" outfit, then run continual *Flashing Red Lights* updates about his unknown whereabouts. Hannity and Beck would still be talking about it a year from now. Rush would get months of material out of it, giving his listeners regular farcical updates as to Sanford's whereabouts.

Bottom line, ANY governor that went completely and totally AWOL for FIVE DAYS would serve themselves up a world of hurt.

I guess you're saying if serial adulterers like Senator David Vitter and Senator John Ensign were Republicans, the librulll media would have forced them out of office?

Wait a minute...

I just don't get why so many Republicans constantly show all this self pity. It's not a new thing either, the pity parties were in full swing even when Republicans had the Presidency and both houses of congress. Self pity is just so... weak.
 
2009-06-24 03:34:11 AM
brainiac-dumdum: dkny: my money is on cancer or some incurable disease.

That would be awesome.

It's all part of Obama's master plan to knock all possible and probable Republican contenders for 2012 out of the way via plum appoints and incurable diseases.


Actually he has slipped them a Percoset/Viagra cocktail. They all seem to be skipping down the bunny trail and humping all the bunnies they see.
 
2009-06-24 03:38:31 AM
Sabyen91: BiffDangler: Who cares where he went? If a Democrat did this you all would be thinking its so cool that he ditches his security detail and gets out into the real world.

Yes...he would be the freaking Fonz.


FYI, Drudge has a "Where's Tim Kaine" article up right now, and he hasn't actually been missing.
 
2009-06-24 03:45:05 AM
brainiac-dumdum:

It's all part of Obama's master plan to knock all possible and probable Republican contenders for 2012 out of the way via plum appoints and incurable diseases.


You've forgotten the most important component, Obama is the secret head of SarahPac.
 
2009-06-24 04:05:20 AM
You guys are all being ridiculous. There is a perfectly good explanation for this:

Governor Sanford ditched his security detail and took several connecting flights to cover his tracks before arriving at a secluded mansion in New England where he served as one of several marquis entertainers for a group of masked, ultra-influential, all-male, conservative business, political, and religious leaders in a gathering not unlike the one in Eyes Wide Shut (only with no hot chicks).

img341.imageshack.us

Don't look so surprised, every major Republican presidential candidate since William McKinley has been forced to take part in this perennial right of passage of sorts, with the notable exception of the strapping Teddy Roosevelt who skipped the party by ascending to power on McKinley's untimely demise (to the great disappointment of many closet homos of the day).

/fidelio
 
2009-06-24 04:05:53 AM
All I've got to say is that if there is a scandal in all of this, it better be an entertaining one.
 
2009-06-24 04:18:23 AM
RandomRandom: BiffDangler: Who cares where he went? If a Democrat did this you all would be thinking its so cool that he ditches his security detail and gets out into the real world.
----

Wow, the reality delusion field is strong in this one.

The hard truth is that if Sanford was a Democratic politician, Drudge would have him photoshopped into a "Where's Waldo" outfit, then run continual *Flashing Red Lights* updates about his unknown whereabouts. Hannity and Beck would still be talking about it a year from now. Rush would get months of material out of it, giving his listeners regular farcical updates as to Sanford's whereabouts.

Bottom line, ANY governor that went completely and totally AWOL for FIVE DAYS would serve themselves up a world of hurt.

I guess you're saying if serial adulterers like Senator David Vitter and Senator John Ensign were Republicans, the librulll media would have forced them out of office?

Wait a minute...

I just don't get why so many Republicans constantly show all this self pity. It's not a new thing either, the pity parties were in full swing even when Republicans had the Presidency and both houses of congress. Self pity is just so... weak.


A) Who really cares if the Govenor vanished for a few days.
B) Drudge Report was cited as Left of Center by Media Matters (who's rather crazy left anyways).

The rest of the Conservatives you targetted, well you're right :p
 
2009-06-24 04:33:47 AM
I don't begrudge the guy a little private time off, but if he can't come up with a decent cover story he doesn't deserve to be Governor.
 
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