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2003-02-20 10:45:20 AM
Yep, we all know that movies ruin your childhood just as much as Priests playing with your genetals...

Farking dork
 
2003-02-20 02:43:23 PM
Scottish_Allah - Perhaps you missed the satire tag? Granted it's not very good satire, but the person you're calling a dork probably doesn't even exist.
 
2003-02-20 04:39:44 PM
oh i dont know, i think this move might ruin some childhoods. hmm, what is the plural of childhood. childhead...nope...hmmm. i digress.
 
2003-02-20 06:29:19 PM
childrenhood? hmm, probably not.
 
2003-02-20 07:02:08 PM
My childhood was ruined when they had Greedo shoot first.

In all seriousness, I grew up watching Star Wars, reading the books (which I still read), collecting the toys, comics, games, etc. Christ, I even have Star Wars tattoos. Simply put, the Star Wars universe has been a very big part of my life and I would hate to see such a great series slide down the path of suck.

Don't get me wrong. I'll still go and see Ep III and any other Star Wars movie that comes out. I would go and see it even if it was Episode III: Jar-Jar and the Ewoks. I just hope it isn't that bad.

Flame away.
 
2003-02-20 08:02:38 PM
Well I used to respect Lucas before Ep II
 
2003-02-20 08:21:43 PM
Lance Hymer, 31, like many of Generation X, is eagerly awaiting the final chapter of the Star Wars saga, and like the rest he's worried that Episode III may ruin his childhood.

But He is however, looking foward to puberty.
 
2003-02-20 11:53:51 PM
Take your pick, Episode I and II were both better than the original trilogy combined. Mark Hamill was the biggest whiner ever. Far more annoying than Jar-Jar could ever hope to be.
 
2003-02-21 12:48:05 AM
quick before the link disappears!~!!
 
2003-02-21 12:49:58 AM
Troll says what?
 
2003-02-21 12:50:33 AM
Episodes I and II ruined what little interest I had in that series. First it was some dumb little kid, then he grows up to be an angry antisocial malcontent teen. Not to mention plotholes out the wazoo.
 
2003-02-21 12:51:17 AM
Well, you know something, little basement-dwellin' dudes, I should seriously be considered for the role of Grando Calrissian.
 
2003-02-21 12:53:07 AM
Star Wars? I've never understood how Farkers seem to hate all commercial manufactured garbage yet rave over this stuff like its some work of art. The 1st one was reasonably entertaining, but the toy sales that followed meant $$$ was the only motivation from then on.

/flame on
 
2003-02-21 12:53:13 AM
"a Jar Jar/ewok love scene"

I think I'm going to cry.
 
2003-02-21 12:54:00 AM
Not one of their better attempts.
 
2003-02-21 12:55:03 AM
It's a tr- oh... nevermind...
 
2003-02-21 12:56:43 AM
This was NOT funny

Ok let me go read it now...
 
2003-02-21 12:57:50 AM
fark Star Wars and fark George Lucas.
Yeah, I thought Star Wars was the shiat when I was eleven. Now George Lucas has turned it in to such a huge pile of crap, I don't see how it holds anyone's interest.
 
2003-02-21 12:58:09 AM
Beam me up, dead man.
 
2003-02-21 12:59:28 AM
I enjoy the occasional wookie.
 
2003-02-21 12:59:46 AM
Anyone here remember Clerks, when they talk about "Jedi" vs. "Empire" and they discuss the fate of the workers repairing the Death Star?
Just thought I'd bring up a Clerks reference.
 
2003-02-21 01:00:10 AM
France scares me. Not a flame, just a comment.
Nothing to see here...This is not the post you are looking for, move on.
*waves ninja-juda-jedi hand atcha*
 
2003-02-21 01:00:11 AM
I watched Ep I and II. Ah, it was ok.

Could have been better if they had taken the time to build a story instead of cramming it all into the obligatory 2hrs. If they could make Titanic so frikkin' long, they could have made Ep I and II longer just to help the story out.
Do that and also get someone who could act. Who was the guy? Christensen?? or something?, sheesh! Wooden like Pinnochio!
 
Mex
2003-02-21 01:01:40 AM
For me it was the stupid midichlorians. That killed star wars for me.

Oh, and Yoda fighting like Sonic the Hedgehog on crack.
 
Mex
2003-02-21 01:03:07 AM
Oh, and the greatest romantic speech of all time, courtesy of Anakin Skywalker...

"I don't like sand. It's rough and coarse. Not like you. You are soft and smooth."

Shoot me now.
 
2003-02-21 01:04:25 AM
In addition to the original trilogy and the currently unfinished pre-trilogy, George also has Ep.7, 8 and 9 as well.
 
2003-02-21 01:04:26 AM



"There comes a time when I feel like I hit a wall and that is when I do stupid things"
 
2003-02-21 01:04:28 AM
Edhellen, here's the full scene:

http://elitemrp.net/sd/clerks-sw.txt
 
2003-02-21 01:05:13 AM
I have a friend who is a die-hard sci-fi and fantasy fan. He'll defend Star Wars to the death. He refuses to admit how weak I and II were, so I don't press him on it.
 
2003-02-21 01:06:32 AM
The first SW (ep4) was cool because it was original. The second movie sucked because it didn't have an ending -- it just had this big "to be continued" when it was done. Very unrewarding. But they made up for it with third movie. However, when they announced ep1 then began the 'in your face' mass merchandising almost 2 years before the movie was released, well I was so sick of seeing anything SW that I blew off the movie. I finally did see it when someone brought a copy of it over on video tape. I was glad that I didn't spend $7.00 bucks to see it. Eesh. What a stinker. I especially got sick of seeing Anikin's face plastered everywhere. I would pay money to see Anikin stuffed down a plasma vent, cooked, then fed to a heard of rabid Ewoks.

The first movies had interesting characters and a storyline. The new movies just suck. There's nothing really new other than improved special effects.
 
2003-02-21 01:07:46 AM
France - I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that we'd like to see some pictures of your Star Wars tattoos.
 
2003-02-21 01:08:01 AM
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2003-02-21 01:08:16 AM
Lollygaggers!:
I think eps 7, 8, and 9 are just books, though. I believe they're in a series called "The Adventures of Luke Skywalker" or something like that.
 
2003-02-21 01:08:25 AM
star wars tatoo picture already provided!

talk about fast service
 
2003-02-21 01:10:56 AM
Andonbray

I was too scared to ask.
 
2003-02-21 01:12:03 AM
Edhellen
Lollygaggers!:
I think eps 7, 8, and 9 are just books


not even that - no one knows what they'd be about really. many have speculated that they'd be based on the zahn trilogy, but no one is sure. whatever the case, if lucas wanted to do 7,8,9 now he'd have to do it with han and leia's kids, since the principle actors fromt eh original trilogy are so damned old that they can't do anything that takes place within 20 years of 4,5,6

/dork
 
2003-02-21 01:12:04 AM
I don't get how anyone could care about Star Wars after episode I. What a pile of crap.
 
2003-02-21 01:12:58 AM
I'm not that big a Star Wars fan so I wouldn't know the particular details of Ep. 7, 8 and 9. Maybe they are just books now.

Read that excert from Clerks....
reminds me of the first tiem I saw Empire. I was working for a day care place and they took all the little tykes out to see the movie. I was in high-school and was grinning cause I got to go for free! But just when Luke and Darth are having their light sabre duel, I got to take one of the kid ot the bathroom!! D'oh! Missed the entire fight! When I get back, Luke's already lost a hand and is hanging off the Cloud City antenna!
 
2003-02-21 01:14:16 AM
the zahn trilogy was excellently written. after that lucas sold out to third-rate star trek "novelists" like Kevin J. Anderson. The Zahn books are the only readable ones in the entire star wars collection, and when i was younger i read over 40 of the star wars books, so i can say that definitively.
 
2003-02-21 01:16:18 AM
NERDS!
 
2003-02-21 01:17:15 AM
farking hilarious. good stuff. time for bed.
 
2003-02-21 01:20:15 AM
Lollygaggers - nice profile pic! I read about that sign in "You Gotta Have Wa" (really good/funny book), but I'd never seen it before -- thanks!
 
2003-02-21 01:20:41 AM
"What if the Jedi turn out to the bad guys? What if there really is no 'force?' It could alter my reality in an awful way."

The Force does exsist? If that was the case then I would start to choke some of my farking bosses with my mind!
 
2003-02-21 01:20:42 AM
Zahn's and Shadows of the Empire are the only books I liked, the newest stuff is just crap.
 
2003-02-21 01:23:13 AM
kevin j. anderson was the worst. and not just for star wars... he killed dune when brian herbert sold out on his dad's legacy and let the worst young-adult trash "author" in the world write the dune prequels.
 
2003-02-21 01:24:08 AM
Grend123:
Nice job!
 
2003-02-21 01:25:15 AM
*shrug* I like 'em. Yes, Episode I was a little childish but Episode II made up for it by being darker. I think it's a solid story by genre standards, executed pretty well. It's better than those farking midgets and gay wizards prancing around in that other franchise anyway.

And what plot holes?
 
2003-02-21 01:25:25 AM
thanks
 
2003-02-21 01:26:15 AM
"farking midgets and gay wizards prancing around in that other franchise anyway."

You mean the ones in the matrix?

/pathetic attempt at humor
 
2003-02-21 01:26:18 AM
This is getting way too deep for my limited Star Wars knowledge. I am a sage of all things Middle-Earth, though.
Of course, that's not the topic at hand so I'll just shut up.
 
2003-02-21 01:28:26 AM
no, its all the same. middle earth is in the future. star wars is a long long time ago. don't you get it?

THEY'RE BOTH REAL

or at least thats what I tell myself between meds
 
2003-02-21 01:28:40 AM
Best Star Wars Moments Of All Time:

1. Han Solo gets frozen
2. The "you killed my master you dirty bastard" duel between Obi-Wan and Darth Maul
3. Mace Windu does a force-leap, lands, runs about five paces, swings that purple lightsaber around and deflects that laser bolt back at the droid shooting at him from behind. Takes out the droid even though the droid was going to miss him by a mile. That was just cool.
4. "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am."
5. After a quick meditation, Qui-Gonn goes at it with Darth Maul full-tilt as Obi-Wan looks on helplessly
6. The much-talked-about, but too short, duel between Yoda and Dooku
7. "Asteroids do not concern me, Admiral. I want that rebel freighter."
8. The metal bikini changing halloween costume contests forever
9. Dooku's constant mutterings of "oh no, I assure you, I had nothing to do with this, it's madness" when you know damned well it was his idea to begin with. How many bosses have you had like this?
10. Darth Vader's helment off with his scarred-up bald head sticking out, while he fiddles with his machine that tweezes his eyebrows or feeds him slurpees or picks his nose or whatever the hell it was supposed to be doing.

Worst Star Wars Moments Of All Time:
1. Greedo shoots first
2. Luke says "I thought you told me Darth Vader betrayed and murdered my father" in the worst piece of acting of any of the five films thus far
3. Ewoks
4. All those guys hugging guys at the end of Return/Jedi - what kind of message you trying to send here?
5. Stepping on Jabba's tail in A New Hope: SE
6. The "It's the first movie he's not Luke and Leia's father just yet" gaping plot hole
7. Threepio and Jar Jar. They're both in the same league. Jar Jar is irritating, but more bothersome than that he is redundant.
8. Loose ends, like the Millenium Falcon not having as much of a history as was first implied, and Tarkin not being in the prequels yet
9. Hey Senate, let's pass a vote to build a clone army. "Not by the hair of our chinny-chin-chin!" Okay, will you vote emergency powers to the chancellor so HE can build a clone army? "Uh...that seems like a good idea, we don't see why not." WTF????
10. Anakin and Dooku fight, but you can't see what they're doing. Whose bright idea was that?
 
2003-02-21 01:28:44 AM

I find the lack of quality in Episodes 1 and 2 ... disturbing.


 
2003-02-21 01:30:12 AM
"6. The "It's the first movie he's not Luke and Leia's father just yet" gaping plot hole"

How is that a plot hole?
 
2003-02-21 01:30:17 AM
"farking midgets and gay wizards prancing around in that other franchise"?

Ohohohoho...
Big mistake, brother. Name for me ONE plot hole in Tolkien's great fantasy epic against which all others must now be measured.
 
2003-02-21 01:32:16 AM
I really wonder sometimes whether or not Lucas fully comprehends just how much he farked up. He's lost just about all the respect he got from the original trilogy.

He should have taken the executive producer credit for the new trilogy and left the writer and director credits to people who still know how to make movies.
 
2003-02-21 01:32:18 AM
AtomicToad
The bull is still there, but I don't think you get a steak for hitting it anymore.

As for Ep. 7, 8 and 9, I heard that the premise was that Luke and Leia began to teach the force and rebuild the order of Jedi knights. However, there were followers who continued to follow Darth Vader (not the Emperor).
 
2003-02-21 01:33:06 AM
The best thing that could happen is that all the prints of episode 3 get lost in a horrible fire. We can lament that we missed out on a great movie instead of being sickened with what crap has oozed out of the Star Wars saga once again. Same notation for Star Trek movies.

Farscape movie please.
 
2003-02-21 01:33:54 AM
6. The much-talked-about, but too short, duel between Yoda and Dooku

You were doing so well up to that point too...
 
2003-02-21 01:34:36 AM
Your favorite fantasy movie sucks.
 
2003-02-21 01:34:43 AM
Farkscape?
 
2003-02-21 01:35:21 AM
Don't forget the "Hand of Thrawn" books! Zahn made two more books that really tied up his stories well. (I have yet to become interested in reading the New Jedi Order series.)
 
2003-02-21 01:38:31 AM
as far as my favorite scene in any of the SW movies, its the:

"your tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker/then he'll see you in hell" scene

just mh opinion of course
 
2003-02-21 01:39:33 AM
the zahn trilogy was excellently written. after that lucas sold out to third-rate star trek "novelists" like Kevin J. Anderson. The Zahn books are the only readable ones in the entire star wars collection, and when i was younger i read over 40 of the star wars books, so i can say that definitively.

I had a crapload of star wars books when I was younger, too. I started picking a couple up again when someone introduced me to the "New Jedi Order" series. It's not half bad, to be honest.
 
2003-02-21 01:39:55 AM
Tom Bombadill. What the fark is he, and what is the point of him? ;)

He's like JarJar...um...except he doesn't suck ass.
 
2003-02-21 01:40:06 AM
Eechuta.
 
2003-02-21 01:41:10 AM
TheOtherGuyFromWham: "6. The "It's the first movie he's not Luke and Leia's father just yet" gaping plot hole" How is that a plot hole?

You're joking, right?
 
2003-02-21 01:43:35 AM
Mkfreeberg

Apparently, I'm ignorant, too. Enlighten us.
 
2003-02-21 01:43:36 AM
02-21-03 01:35:21 AM Pjdonnell
Don't forget the "Hand of Thrawn" books! Zahn made two more books that really tied up his stories well. (I have yet to become interested in reading the New Jedi Order series.)


not 2, three:



 
2003-02-21 01:45:08 AM
unfetchabel??!!



there you go, 3.
 
2003-02-21 01:45:38 AM
Mkfreeberg

Apparently, I'm ignorant, too. Enlighten us.

same here...enlighten us, oh great smug one.
 
2003-02-21 01:46:30 AM
I'm talking about:



and

 
2003-02-21 01:46:40 AM
That's 3. There were another two, forming the hand of Thrawn duology, set 10 years after The Last Command.
 
2003-02-21 01:47:22 AM
Oops, that first one should be
 
2003-02-21 01:47:39 AM
The only time I have ever cried during a movie was during Empire. I can not watch the Han Solo carbonite scene without sobbing like a baby. :( (I would just like to mention here that I am very female!) I was so pissed off after watching Episode One. DAMN! And my boyfriend at the time (definitely an X-boyfriend now) built it all up to me (I wasn't allowed to go see it when it was first released, I was grounded) so I was so excited. He saw it, no kidding, at least 10 times. And then when I finally saw it I almost vomited. I am so glad it was on a date so I didn't have to pay to see that nonsense. It was dreadful. I liked EP II, I thought the visuals were great and it was a hell of a lot better than Ep I. But Empire is still my favourite! You guys wouldn't believe how farking obsessed I was in Middle School... O.O It was really weird because I was in middle school from 1995-1998 and I became obsessed before even the re-releases. Ah cable TV!
 
2003-02-21 01:48:57 AM
Sonuva!
 
2003-02-21 01:49:43 AM
Sonuva!

 
2003-02-21 01:51:33 AM
02-21-03 01:47:39 AM Orangeglow
The only time I have ever cried during a movie was during Empire. I can not watch the Han Solo carbonite scene without sobbing like a baby. :( (I would just like to mention here that I am very female!)


I thought it rockes....I just love Han's arrogance:

Leia: I love you!
Han: I know...
 
2003-02-21 01:53:24 AM
who the hell:

A: Keeps submitting satire, seeing as noone finds it funny
B: Keeps submitting from BBSpot (see above)
C: Got drew to buy stock in BBSpot, so we have to keep seeing these links.
 
2003-02-21 01:54:39 AM
I can't remember the last time I was grounded.
 
2003-02-21 01:55:20 AM
CheeseEatingBulldog

You have to realise that I was MADLY in love with Han Solo. I had posters on the walls.. and that cute collecters plate. (I was SO PISSED OFF when my best friend got a life-sized stand up of Han for Christmas and my parents REFUSED to buy me one for 4 yrs in a row for christmas. I still haven't gotten my Han!) Anyway, I was in LOVE with him. and that look in his eyes... so sad... so worried and lost and *starts getting all worked up* Err... but that was then! I'm mucu too old and mature for silly infactuations with fictional characters now! *heh*
 
2003-02-21 01:56:55 AM
It's little things...it's really not possible to relate to them, unless you're a hopeless nerd, or watch Star Wars movies too much, or are a natural Sherlock Holmes. Or some combination of the three. Maybe I'm the first two of those or something.

It's like, Joe Millionaire is lying in bed. He can't sleep because he feels so bad about lying to these beautiful girls. So he calls over his producer to jaw at him about it at three in the morning. Doesn't add up. Forget that here on planet Earth, the producer would say something like "Do you know what F***ing time it is???" and go back to bed, instead of jawing with Joe. Nevermind that...the question is, if you're having trouble sleeping WHY DON'T YOU KICK THAT GODDAMNED CAMERAMAN OUT OF YOUR ROOM, JOE???

It's the same thing with Star Wars. There's little tiny things you see that don't add up. Leia is Darth's daughter. He's torturing her. She's taunting him, he's lecturing her, she's standing in front of him, at one point gets shoved in to him. Furthermore, it's obvious from the lines there's a history of animosity between these two that goes back aways. She's the blood daughter he doesn't know he has, and he's the most powerful Jedi who ever lived.

He can't figure out who she is?

Of course not, because when they made this movie, he wasn't her father yet. You can hem and haw and say silly things like "uh, he couldn't sense her because he was out of balance with the Force" or "he went through all three movies hiding the fact that he knew she was his daughter" or some other lame excuse like that, but the fact of the matter is Lucas made it up as he went along.

I guess that makes me like one of those "Galaxy Quest" nerds bugging Tim Allen about the design of his spaceship. But to me, it seems like the same expectation of continuity I'd make of any classic story, like a Three Musketeers movie or a King Arthur and Camelot movie. Evidence that the story-teller is making it all up as he goes along, is unsettling. It makes it harder for me to relate to the story.

They're still great movies, though.
 
2003-02-21 01:57:43 AM
Andonbray

Oh yes, I forget, some of you people are so old. (just teasing) I'm almost 19 now. DAMN! How in the hell did I get so old? *sob*
 
2003-02-21 01:58:34 AM
I need a girlfriend. ;)
 
2003-02-21 01:58:35 AM
Orangeglow - Really? Out of all the possible scenes in the original trilogy, that's the one? Not Luke coming back to find the charred remains of his guardians? I suppose it's more heartwrenching than Ackbar and Lando providing comedy relief at a level 100X better than midget furries?
 
2003-02-21 01:59:01 AM
If the Star Wars movies will be remembered for anything, it'll be the amazing music John Williams has managed to compose for all 5 movies. The Main Title Theme, The Imperial March, The Duel of the Fates, his work is uniformly outstanding. Yeah I'm a filmscore nerd.
 
2003-02-21 02:01:20 AM
02-21-03 01:55:20 AM Orangeglow

hehe....I still want that carbon han w/ flashing lights on my wall some day...cool piece of art...and it isn't that weird to ...love...han...most SW male fans get hard ons for Carrie Fisher and Natalie Portman....It's just Han'
s character is way cool, Luke, in my opinion and definatly after reading a shiat load of books is just some gay metherfarker who never grabs a chic and always does "the right thing"...

As for best quote from the films, Most definitly the R2 plays Wookie at chess conversation about pulling arms off.
 
2003-02-21 02:03:04 AM
Man, I had one hell of an "interesting" experience taking my date to see Episode II. I still shudder when I think about it.
 
2003-02-21 02:04:11 AM
I'm with you Orangeglow. Episode V was the best. Maybe it's just us girls who favor that one. Han outshined Luke in every way in the original trilogy. Although I liked Episdoe II better than I, I must still say I enjoyed it. I was just so damn happy to see a new Star Wars movie. Maybe 'cause I had to wait so much longer in between movies. I'm much older than you. Graduated in '89 and don't even remember middle school. I think it's great to see the younger generation enjoying the original trilogy so they can see there is more to it than just the new ones. Here's hoping Episode 3 doesn't disappoint.
 
2003-02-21 02:04:31 AM
Onion-
We wish to hear your story.
 
2003-02-21 02:08:29 AM
Ramius5783

This is a very good question, but if you take my age at the time into consideration it should make more sense. I was, what, 13, 14 years old. I HATED my parents. They were the evil oppressor who grounded me and stuff. (I mean, COME ON, what kind of heartless people would ground their star wars obsessed daughter from seeing Ep I on account of less than excellent grades? BAH!). Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru... (Mostly Uncle Owen) were Lukes oppressors! Why would I be sad to see them go? I was disturbed, yes, and probably made a sad face about it, but I wasn't too crushed. And besides... I NEVER had a thing for Luke.

I wanna go to the Toshi Station and pick up some power converters... WAHHH!!!!

BAH! Not for me! So I had little emotional connection for Luke.

As for Han.. I was so infactuated with him! All my school supplies was Han, notebooks, binders, folders, organizers.. all Star Wars (Han if I could get it.) I even tricked the little kids I was baby-sitting into playing Star Wars with me. They would pretend to be Jaina and Jacen and I was EVERYONE ELSE IN THE FARKING UNIVERSE. We would run around and have Star Wars adventures all summer.... *The crazed look returns to her eyes...* eee....
 
2003-02-21 02:11:03 AM
Mkfreeberg

You ever thought about the possibility that a force-latent and and dark side wouldn't notice each other? I'm hoping that it's explained that Leia is removed from the scene before Anakin even sees her, so he doesn't even know she exists. I theorize that Force-latents don't attract that much attention from the sensitive unless they were purposefully searching for them. Remember, Vader didn't sense Luke until he started using the Force in the Death Star trench.

Also, the Dark Side can be blinding, you know? If you're Anakin doing all these horrible things and succumb to the dark side, either your conscience is suppressed or erased. Since Vader redeems himself, I think this just means his conscience was suppressed. That being the case, couldn't other mental processes be affected as well?

I hope that made sense.
 
2003-02-21 02:11:08 AM
As for Han.. I was so infactuated with him! All my school supplies was Han, notebooks, binders, folders, organizers.. all Star Wars (Han if I could get it.) I even tricked the little kids I was baby-sitting into playing Star Wars with me. They would pretend to be Jaina and Jacen and I was EVERYONE ELSE IN THE FARKING UNIVERSE. We would run around and have Star Wars adventures all summer.... *The crazed look returns to her eyes...* eee....

I like star wars as much as the next person, and have to admit seeing all the films over 200 times but...I have to ask this,

Do you go to the new films in fancy dress??

That was a pun, sorry.
 
2003-02-21 02:11:50 AM
Lula_Fortune

Amen, sister! If you haven't read it yet I HIGHLY recommend The Courtship of Princess Leia. It is a most excellent book! :D I think it should be required reading for any girlie star wars fan. :)
 
2003-02-21 02:12:01 AM
That's another thing. The Luke/Leia/Han love triangle. Han Solo was supposed to be an idiosyncratic comic character. Chewbacca was in the earlier scripts supposed to be his big hairy girlfriend. Luke was the sex symbol. Think about it...the Bee Gees were in style, David Cassidy was cool, fluffy hair was in. Luke was supposed to be the guy who would get the girl.

Anyway, I agree with DrRocks1982. Star Wars is like a Looney Tunes cartoon: You turn off the sound, you ain't got nothin'. Although, I don't believe Williams can claim credit for composing the Imperial March.
 
2003-02-21 02:12:57 AM
Jesus, it's like I'm back in 1996 and this is that crapfest aint it cool news.

/not drinking
 
2003-02-21 02:13:10 AM
I WANT EWOK AND JAR JAR PORN!!!!

That would be funnier than all fark.
Watching the faces of other people in the theater as they look on in horror.
 
2003-02-21 02:15:11 AM
Mkfreeberg, you're not making any sense, sorry. Vader didn't even know he had a daughter. There's nothing to insinuate that he should have recognized her. There aren't any plot holes in the films, just people who don't pay attention to them. Don't mean to sound like the Comic Book guy but when people arbitrarally declare PLOT HOLE without understanding the story it's kind of annoying.
 
2003-02-21 02:15:50 AM
Orangeglow

I'm only 20, have loved Star Wars for the past 10 years, and have been getting into the expanded universe books and characters. (I'm partial to Mara Jade and Kyle Katarn, myself.)

But there was something about Courtship that just didn't sit well with me. Maybe it was contradictions with Zahn's writings, who knows?
 
2003-02-21 02:17:15 AM
02-21-03 02:12:01 AM Mkfreeberg

Actually, originally Han was, like, a big green alien thing. Not at all my sexy dream boat. I still have Han's full body poster (not life sized, though, dammit!) on the back of my door... *le sigh*.

Casting MARK HAMIL as a sex symbol is NOT BUENO by any means. YECH. Just the thought of it makes me furious. I use to have these arguements over which man was better with one of my best friends. She insisted Luke was the superior character. And now she's a lesbian. Hmmm.
 
2003-02-21 02:19:00 AM
geesh, huge fire at a club in my state (rhode island), 300-400 people where there, and at least 150 were sent to hospitals, and they just reported 10-20 people found dead at the front door, probably more inside.

/scared to go to clubs
/offtopic
 
2003-02-21 02:20:41 AM
Orangeglow

Honestly, I can't say I've ever heard of that book, but on your advice I will definitely check it out.

Mkfreeberg

Personally, the Luke/Leia/Han love triangle you mentioned is the thing that led me to believe George Lucas was making it all up as he went along.
 
2003-02-21 02:20:46 AM
In my personal opinion Jar-Jar Binks was THE worst thing to happen, not only to Star Wars, but to the history of man kind. I can not possibly express my morbid disgust of the very thought of him in mere words. *shudder*
 
2003-02-21 02:20:58 AM
Pjdonnell: Mkfreeberg You ever thought about the possibility that a force-latent and and dark side wouldn't notice each other?

Yes, there's always some wiggle-room. Somewhere. It would appear that sticking to your knitting when writing Star Wars scripts is, not quite so much like a game of Jenga where you "blow it" with one bad move, but more like a game of Twister where your position becomes gradually more precarious until you get tired of holding it up.

I'm a big fan of wiggle-room. When people came out after Phantom Menace and said "Obi-Wan's ghost said Yoda was the master who instructed him, doesn't that mean Lucas blew it?" I was one of the first to say no, there's all kinds of ways to explain that. In criticizing the father-daughter thing in A New Hope, I'm drawing not so much on the lines from the movie script, but historical information about Lucas' vision when he made this movie versus the other movies, and comments from people who worked for him. Vader, as of this film, wasn't the father of Luke or Leia, and this caused problems with the story.

As you demonstrated, the problems aren't so big they can't be somehow explained...but they're still problems.
 
2003-02-21 02:21:14 AM
'Member that part when they jumped to hyper-space ? That was awesome.

/farley
 
2003-02-21 02:23:38 AM
TheOtherGuyFromWham, sorry I annoyed you.
 
2003-02-21 02:24:10 AM
Mkfreeberg

Ok, I got ya. But there were so many drafts and variants of that first Star Wars movie, that it makes my head hurt to think of all the possibilities.

Though I do think it would be extremely cool for Lucas to publish earlier drafts of the script. Think of it: "The Star Wars That Was Never Meant to Be!"
 
2003-02-21 02:24:47 AM
If they're explained then they aren't problems. Sure the story was a work in progrss as it was being written. That doesn't mean there are plot holes. Just preconceived ideas that turned out to be false. That's not the definition of a plot hole.
 
2003-02-21 02:25:14 AM
She insisted Luke was the superior character. And now she's a lesbian. Hmmm.

Like I said, Luke is teh gay! He could have shagged the emperor's hand, no, he rather spank his lightsaber...he is pathetic, and to be honest hamil didn't do the character any good....Harrison Ford just IS Han Solo...a scoundrel and most definitly a man's man.
 
2003-02-21 02:26:29 AM
Mkfreeberg

Apology accepted. Putting a little more thought in your posts in the future can do wonders to avoid annoying people. :p
 
2003-02-21 02:27:13 AM
fark, i beg of you, give us another link. any link.

you know we all love han solo in star wars because h. ford was the only one who could act. sorta.
 
2003-02-21 02:27:16 AM
CheeseEatingBulldog

Luke did shag the Emporer's Hand! They got married and had a kid, Ben!
 
2003-02-21 02:27:39 AM
I was watching the newer movies and thinking "Wow, the acting in this movie is really terrible." So, I went out and rented the originals...and the acting was terrible in those too. Nostalgia is a powerful force.

I have no real point except this: Spiderman > Daredevil
 
2003-02-21 02:29:33 AM
Orangeglow
Yeah, Jar-Jar was the biggest disappointment for me in Episode I. (like many others) And for some reason, I can't understand why I find it easier to forgive the awkward acting by Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher than I can the acting by that Jake kid and Natalie Portman in Episode I?
 
2003-02-21 02:30:08 AM
CheeseEatingBulldog

I would have liked Luke if he had not been so DAMNED whiny. ECH. I want to throttle him. There are moments when I think he's pretty kickass... but those are few and far between.

And to the rest of you...

Here's another thing that bugged the CRAP out of me. How in the hell was little Anakin Skywalker, little dirt-slave boy able to program a droid that knows all those millions of languages? I doubt the kid could have known more than 3 and I didn't see any sign of advanced computer technology or internet in his filthy little hovel.

"GEEEOOOORGGIIEE!!! You got some splainin' to do!"
 
2003-02-21 02:30:43 AM
02-21-03 02:27:16 AM Pjdonnell
CheeseEatingBulldog

Luke did shag the Emporer's Hand! They got married and had a kid, Ben!


When was this? Sorry I have read alot of SW books but once the young jedi, we want to make money series came out I quit reading SW...I guess I missed out...but Luke is still a closet gay.
 
2003-02-21 02:30:43 AM
Damn, someone already submitted a link for the Great White nightclub fire.

And here I was, all ready to go with my "Once Bitten, Twice Fried" headline.
 
2003-02-21 02:32:01 AM
Do you suppose that Jabba the Hut made Leia touch his ding-ding?
 
2003-02-21 02:33:29 AM
I'd really love to make fun of Star Wars fans right now, but I have no room to do so.

You see, I am a Dune fan. I have the directors' cut movie as taped from SciFi channel. I have the "new" miniseries as taped from same. I've read every book, including all four (at the moment) "prequels".

So go right ahead, gang. The sleepers must awaken.
 
2003-02-21 02:33:30 AM
Farkwicket, i'm watching it on the local news, I live in RI.

They found people dead (10-20 or more) at the front door, supposedly the front door was trapping people in, but there were at least 2 other doors, and people were breaking windows to get out

They interviewed jack russell, the great white lead singer and he said his sound guy was "cooked" , face was peeling off, and they couldnt find one of their guitarists.

Nice headline btw heh
 
2003-02-21 02:33:44 AM
Orangeglow

Uh.... Force-sensitive people just know these things? Honestly, I can't come up with anything for that.

Although, Dark Horse's quarterly Star Wars comic book had an episode where Annie found Threepio's parts in Watto's junkyard. Basically, the body was intact, but the head was separated. I guess in this case, the programming was still stored in Threepio's memory, but then it downplays Annie being Threepio's "creator."
 
2003-02-21 02:34:37 AM
OtherGuy, you may want to read up on things like this:

SS, please could you answer these questions? Wouldn't Vader be able to sense Luke and Leia through the Force? (SuperShadow: Yes, but you must remember that Lucas is making all this stuff up as he goes along so in Episode 4 Luke and Leia were not Vader's children. It wasn't until Lucas wrote Episode 5 that he decided to make Luke and Leia the children of Lord Vader.)

You're entitled to your opinion, but once the people on the inside are "'fessing up" that this stuff is being made up one chapter at a time, to me, it's time to admit there's an error. It doesn't mean Lucas did an awful job, or betrayed humanity in some way. It simply means there's a hole.

Keep in mind, this is the saga where people are trying to draw clues from previous movies, to figure out what's going to happen in the next movie...if things don't have to be consistent, and such inconsistencies are just "oopsies" that we should expect now and then, it has a bearing on what we should predict for the next movie. I'm not ragging on the movies, but there's a limit to what intellectual acrobats I'm going to pursue to try to avoid the dreaded pronouncement of "plot hole." I think it's established by now that there is one.

But you're entitled to your opinion.
 
2003-02-21 02:35:59 AM
Here's another thing that bugged the CRAP out of me. How in the hell was little Anakin Skywalker, little dirt-slave boy able to program a droid that knows all those millions of languages? I doubt the kid could have known more than 3 and I didn't see any sign of advanced computer technology or internet in his filthy little hovel

Easy....buy a logic chip, pre- made database....Any number of possibilities.

Teh thing that bugs me is that Darth Vader doesn't recognize his own creation, And that Jar Jar didn't get decapitated in the first 1 minute of ep1....which after watching it 5 times does kind of grow on you.
 
2003-02-21 02:36:05 AM
CheeseEatingBulldog

Luke proposed to Mara at the end of Zahn's Vision of the Future, they got married in a Dark Horse comic book special, and had a kid in the New Jedi Order series.
 
2003-02-21 02:36:25 AM
acrobats == acrobatics

Heh heh. Pursue some acrobats? Maybe if they look like Padme. :-)
 
2003-02-21 02:36:36 AM
What's up with all the nightclub tragedies lately?

See, people oughta be stayin' home and reading Fark. Much safer.
 
2003-02-21 02:37:49 AM
First of all, I know who SuperShadow is and he is hardly on the "inside". He's a guy with a website that just makes up fake SW news to see who buys it. And again, there's nothing in the films to suggest that Vader would have been able to just tell that Leia was his daughter. Not a plot hole.
 
2003-02-21 02:40:11 AM
"Teh thing that bugs me is that Darth Vader doesn't recognize his own creation,"

Well, the only time they were even in the same room together in the original trilogy was in the carbon freezing chamber, where 3PO was in pieces on Chewie's back. So even if Vader, who completly denounced his Anakin persona did somehow recognize 3PO, what would you have him say? "Hey 3PO! I created you, dog! Let's have a beer after I freeze this farker."

Sigh.
 
2003-02-21 02:40:33 AM
"Luke, in my opinion and definatly after reading a shiat load of books is just some gay metherfarker who never grabs a chic and always does "the right thing"..."

Actually he got with Mara Jade ( she better be in the sequels if they're ever made ). Maybe you missed that one in all the books you read.

But yeah, I never found Luke to be a likable hero. I find myself cheering on Anakin/Darth Vader or Obi-Wan more often because at least they're not fem-farmer-boys.

I only wish they could make a Shadows of the Empire movie. Sadly, it will never happen.
 
2003-02-21 02:40:39 AM
Now, Splinter of the Mind's Eye, there's a book just filled with contradictions! 'Course, it was written around '78 or '79, before the trilogy was fully fleshed out...

(Luke constantly hitting on Leia, Vader not knowing who this "Luke Skywalker" is, Vader gets his leg cut off but doesn't get as worn out as he does when he loses his hand in Jedi...)
 
2003-02-21 02:42:52 AM
Well the books don't matter anyway. Lucas doesn't pay any attention to them and doesn't even know about most of them. The films are completly separate from the books.
 
2003-02-21 02:43:48 AM
TheOtherGuyFromWham

Adding on to that, the protocol droid's all have standardized bodies and programming. Vader could easily have dismissed Threepio as being coincidentally similar to his own droid.
 
2003-02-21 02:44:21 AM
Lula_Fortune

Believe it or not I just sat here and wrote a beauty response to your response, it was glorious.. and then I forgot to type in my damned password. Alas, it is lost in the abyss of fark. I hope the future of your homeworld wasn't dependant on my opinion on the acting styles of said actors because there is no way in hell i am going to sit here and retype it all! HEH i need to go to bed. oy! SORRY! email me and we can take it up another time.

CheeseEatingBulldog

OH MY GOD. You are so right. DAMN YOU GEORGE LUCAS! I don't know who the FARK his editors were. The man ought to seek out true fans to proofread his scripts. Damn him. Damn him to hell.
 
2003-02-21 02:46:24 AM
Leia was adopted! How about that? Plot hole fixed!
 
2003-02-21 02:48:19 AM
Okay, well you could be right, like I said you have a perfect right to your own opinion.

If you have "dirt" on SuperShadow I'd be interested in seeing it...he does have enough to do with the production to be on the payroll, and to get that extra shot in Dex's Diner. That's not what I find convincing, though, it's the consistency with other things I already know to be true. Mark Hamill stated many years ago he was "briefed" on this whole father-was-a-navigator-on-a-spice-freighter thing, when the first movie was being made, and it appears to have been an ironclad commitment back then that Skywalker Sr. and Darth Vader were two different people. It is further known, today, that Star Wars stories are in a state of flux until VERY late in the game...like for example, Padme was supposed to be "rubbed out" in the movies but Natalie Portman didn't want her character to die, so Lucas said Okay.

You can do stuff like that and still create a good story, but when that's the case you'll have some holes. I believe that by insisting Jedi can't "sense" things unless they're deliberately looking for them, you're creating even more holes...but that's my opinion.
 
2003-02-21 02:48:26 AM
Andonbray, you know she wanted it. She had to have had the Jetson's equivalent of a Catholic upbringing. I've heard being reared by Priests can do strange things to the mind.
 
2003-02-21 02:48:32 AM
I remember the glorious days of middle school. My friends and I even had a star wars club. I was president and my SW Club name was... DUH... Princess Leia. That was a damned good club, too! Man. We had all these complicated rules and forms and I thought we were really something. heh.

Ooo! And my best friend and I use to write star wars parodies of songs. Man, that was kickass. I long for the days... long before the prequels. well, not too long.
 
2003-02-21 02:50:24 AM
02-21-03 02:40:39 AM Pjdonnell
Now, Splinter of the Mind's Eye, there's a book just filled with contradictions! 'Course, it was written around '78 or '79, before the trilogy was fully fleshed out...


Got that one...old yellow cover...and it does contradict almost everything...also leai and luke don't know they are related...pretty funny..

And in the books I have read Luke never really got with Luke, he always chickend out and left to be on his own..I must have missed a book or two.
 
2003-02-21 02:50:57 AM
Pj,

If I remember "Splinter" right, it was his arm that was cut off and not his leg. Luke was surprised at how little blood came out of the cauterized stump, which I found interesting at the time...

(/nerd)
 
2003-02-21 02:51:15 AM
Orangeglow

LOL. No problem, I think I can survive. Yes, we will have to take this up another time. I have to go to bed too. Although I have a kid who will be up in a few hours, I find myself on Fark discussing Star Wars. Damn, as if I'm not addicted to enough things already......
 
2003-02-21 02:52:18 AM
Well, it's been a few years since I read that one (7? 8?), but I know he lost a limb, and just kinda shrugged it off!
 
2003-02-21 02:52:19 AM
On the payroll? LOL

Well anyway, my last word on the Leia thing, no Jedi or Sith has sensed anyone who wasn't using the Force. They didn't sense Luke for 20 years, until he started his training. There's no reason for anyone to have sensed Leia. Yes, the story was a work of progress but a plot hole is a contradiction or something that doesn't make sense. This doesn't qualify.
 
2003-02-21 02:52:46 AM
I guess the key thing to think about in times like these is "suspension of disbelief". As much as we would like to believe that George Lucas is god.. he is not. He's just a human being like you... and me... and you over there... and maybe you, too. (Not so much the guy in the corner in the red shirt, though, I often wonder about him.) Star Wars is just a fictional universe and so, of course, not everything is totally believable and not everything fits or works right. (I never thought I of all people would be saying this.) So suspend your disbelief and enjoy the madness.
 
2003-02-21 02:53:33 AM
Oh

And Jango Fett and Boba Fett are my favorite characters.

Uh, however they didn't expand on their histories very well.

And how the hell could they be the best bounty hunters in the universe if a Jedi could defeat them.

Pah, I say!
 
2003-02-21 02:54:20 AM
Orangeglow

(Not so much the guy in the corner in the red shirt, though, I often wonder about him.)

Hey! I always had nice things to say about you!
 
2003-02-21 02:55:47 AM
I swear, if a new link isn't posted I'm going to have to go to bed.
 
2003-02-21 02:56:02 AM
Eventhough I know the answer: "hard to see the dark side is" , it is kind of weird that a whole jedi council can't sense Senator Palpetine as being evil or catch on to his intrest in Anakin...and when Yoda said the boy is too old for training about anakin...I kinda went : "geez ep2 to ep5 and all you can come up with is the same damn line?!"..And I think lucas got tje jar jar hint when he lucky gave him almost zip screenplay in ep2, you can even see where in the film lucas went..."ok they hate him, make him stay there on and give him 3 lines, then just forget about him otherwise my house will be burnt down"...C3p0 I can live with...jar jar however should be mamed, shot, shot again and then quartered.
 
2003-02-21 02:57:15 AM
Reactron - Yeah, I know a guy that was "reared" by a priest and he is still in therapy about it.
 
2003-02-21 02:57:52 AM
Lula_Fortune

At the risk of being totally out of line and sounding like a total flamer: WHOA! Lula.. you are a total babe! Hot mama!! yikes! I just clicked on your profile and oooo. 8^D Good night.
 
2003-02-21 02:58:15 AM
"And how the hell could they be the best bounty hunters in the universe if a Jedi could defeat them."

Um, because he's a farking Jedi? :p
 
2003-02-21 02:58:38 AM
How can people think this if FARKED UP?

Star Wars (1977) $460,935,655
Star Wars: Episode V $290,158,751
Star Wars: Episode VI $309,064,373
Star Wars: Episode I $431,065,444
Star Wars: Episode II $310,483,891

TOTAL $1,801,708,114

That's almost 2 Billion...... Give me a break
 
2003-02-21 03:00:41 AM
OK. I give up on waiting for a new link. I'm going to go make me a grilled cheese sandwich and I'll watch a movie or something. It won't be any of that Star Wars shiat, either.
 
2003-02-21 03:00:49 AM
I just realized, I'm making all these posts while wearing a Boba Fett t-shirt...

(This random thought brought to you be the letter Z and the number 6746746!)
 
2003-02-21 03:02:51 AM
02-21-03 02:53:33 AM Aloneinthefark
Oh

And Jango Fett and Boba Fett are my favorite characters.

Uh, however they didn't expand on their histories very well.

And how the hell could they be the best bounty hunters in the universe if a Jedi could defeat them.

Pah, I say!



What???! Jedi have nothing against bounty hunters...it is a honorable trade, and ebing the best at martial arts doesn't logically mean you can also dodge nukes....your argument contains nothing....and read tales of the bounty hunters if you want to know more.
 
2003-02-21 03:05:28 AM
It was established during Return Of The Jedi, at least twice, that using the Dark Side of the Force someone can reach into your mind and suck the thoughts right out of it even if you don't want them to. It seems clear, to me, that there are ways to guard against this, since the Emperor doesn't know Vader is about to betray him even though he suspects as much. But it's equally clear that Luke is not able to use these deflective powers and when Anakin wants to find out about Leia, he is able to do so.

I'll grant you that by this point, Anakin is paying a great deal more attention to Luke and his thoughts than he has up to that point...but the issue I have is, when this took place Luke wasn't using any Force powers and in fact was taking pains to hide his thoughts from Vader, which didn't work. I'm pretty sure that in the next film we'll learn a great deal more about how to hunt for Force-sensitive people who aren't using the Force at the time you're sniffing them out.

The Vader we see in ESB and ROJ is somewhat consistent, although the ROJ version is kinder & gentler. The transition from the ANH Vader is rough & choppy because this Vader is a different character. As I've said, this is a matter of historical fact based on what Lucas was writing at the time. This Vader was inspired by Rochefort from the Three Musketeers and Guy of Gisborn from Robin Hood. Just a bad dude who killed Luke's father. That's all he was.
 
2003-02-21 03:08:08 AM
Orangeglow

Why thank you, you're a sweetie for saying so. Good night.
 
2003-02-21 03:15:18 AM
CheeseEatingBulldog

Already have.

I'm saying if they're the best in the galaxy or whatever, shouldn't they be able to kill Jedi too? I mean technically, to be the best, you'd have to be able to kill Jedi too. It just makes sense since Jedi are like demigods in that universe practically.
 
2003-02-21 03:19:10 AM
02-21-03 03:15:18 AM Aloneinthefark
CheeseEatingBulldog

Already have.

I'm saying if they're the best in the galaxy or whatever, shouldn't they be able to kill Jedi too? I mean technically, to be the best, you'd have to be able to kill Jedi too. It just makes sense since Jedi are like demigods in that universe practically


Being the best at your job doesn't mean you are the best at everything. And note that Boba is the only person in the original tril that talks back to Vader, par the emperor. And Jango kills a jedi in ep2 by shooting his ass off the balcony...
 
2003-02-21 03:22:33 AM
By the way, if you haven't been to the most recent photoshop you should definitely head on over. It's a riot. (Oh, and my best friend decided to ps me into a rather precarious situation. heh. vote for Michikade! :D) anyway, even if you don't vote for her (and you really should) you should at least check it out (and vote for her anyway.)
A vote for michikade is a vote for George Lucas being a crack head!! (just kidding)
 
2003-02-21 03:24:17 AM
good point.. he did shoot the jedi off the balcony.. reflecting blasts with your saber takes a certain skill and a certain amount of time to do. Certainly the guy couldn't do it point blank. Or maybe he didn't. I haven't seen Ep2 since the second time I saw it.. which was about 2 months after it was released
 
2003-02-21 03:29:43 AM
George Lucas has already ruined my childhood, as much as he enriched it when I was a child. I just an not captivated like I was... It just feels differant, although I feel the same about the original trilogy.
 
2003-02-21 03:31:22 AM
Basically: bla bla Lucas this, bla bla episode whatever that, and so on and so forth until the next Matrix movie.
 
2003-02-21 04:04:27 AM
Yep, most people who claim the prequels are a thousand times worst than the originals first saw the originals when they were babies. Anybody who first saw them at a remotely objective age will probably tell you that Lucas hasn't his magic touch, in fact his "touch" was never insanely magical to begin with. Congratulations everyone, you suffer from Bitter Nostalgist syndrome.
 
2003-02-21 04:36:15 AM
What.
Ever.

Im YODA!

HoodiY!
 
2003-02-21 04:37:05 AM
I know just how this guy feels. At this point, StarWars and LOTR are really the only two reasons i don't kill myself:)
 
2003-02-21 04:50:52 AM
George Lucas may have raped my childhood with Episode I, but at least with Episode II he had the common decency to give me a reacharound. You all know big ol' George's coming, and there ain't nothing you can do about it except bite the pillow and take it like a man, because with Episode III, George is gonna fark you until you love him.
 
2003-02-21 04:51:32 AM
This article reads like a poorly written rip-off of this
one
, from The Onion
 
2003-02-21 05:01:59 AM
THE POWER OF shiat COMPELS THEE!!
 
2003-02-21 05:43:55 AM
 
2003-02-21 06:14:22 AM
WEG Star Wars is 1000 times better then Star Wars d20, do I get an Amen people?

-Stryfe
 
2003-02-21 06:17:44 AM
The weird thing is that Anakin is C3P0's creator in Ep I. And C3P0 says "Thank the maker!" In Star Wars after Luke cleans him or something, C3P0 is kind of praying to Darth Vader, kinda creepy if you ask me.
 
2003-02-21 07:12:55 AM
What is this Star Wars you speak of and was it ever resolved with unilateral disarmament? An unconditional surrender? And were these terms accepted by the UN???

Kidding!!!!

Seriously, I'm 32 I saw SW at 6and 7
I saw ESB at 9 or 10
And ROTJ at 11 I guess.

It was fantastic and magical!!!I was thrilled by Obi Wan and Vader scared the bejeebus out of me. BUT I WAS A CHILD!!!As an adult of course that magic dose'nt exsist, That don't mean that the new ones are any less exciting when looked at from that angle. I mean I had a Big Wheel too. I now drive a car. Big Wheel for little me. Car for big me!Get it???

On a side-note. I had some little folks hanging out at my house (my wife seems to bring them home quite regularly) and they loved the 2 new movies when I put them on the DVD player. They get it cause they are suppose to get it!!!

Big Wheel-Car...See!
 
2003-02-21 08:12:26 AM
The sick part is that I had this very conversation with my friend last night at the bar.

Please shoot me.
 
2003-02-21 09:08:55 AM
not. teh. funnay.
 
2003-02-21 09:14:21 AM
(in yoda voice)
hmmm... have faith in Lucas you must... but a real jedi trusts his intsincts or suffer horrific fate he will...

Dark and mysterious the future is... but not altogether swollen with fear... in order to appreciate the grandure of star wars one must clear his mind of every thing and open his mind to the FARK-side of the force...

(not in yoda voice)
if nothing else the third atleast gives us our tri-episodely dose of Ackbar...
 
2003-02-21 09:18:53 AM
I'm not too keen on the prequel trilogy, but I can't wait to sit down with my kids and watch all six movies in a row. The looks on their faces will remind me of why I loved those movies so much. It's an epic fantasy that works wonders on children, but loses strength as you age.
 
2003-02-21 09:22:57 AM
ok, THEY ARE JUST MOVIES PEOPLE!!!
 
2003-02-21 09:25:02 AM
Wow it's late in the thread for this, but someone asked for a plot hole in LOTR, and I thought of the whole "Gimli must be some sort of leader among dwarves, but he doesn't have any idea that the dwarves in the mines of Moria including close family members have been dead for enough years to be completely decomposed."
 
2003-02-21 09:38:58 AM
best whine ever:

"But I was going in to Taasche Station to pick up some power converters!"
 
2003-02-21 09:41:00 AM
You know, I just realized that it's sad that I can spell Taasche without having to look it up.
 
2003-02-21 09:53:58 AM
now for the truth--just watch any of the StarWars movies through the eyes of a child and you will love them all
 
2003-02-21 09:55:04 AM
I'd like to see more of Jar-Jar...
Marinated, rubbed down with Teriyaki sauce, and slow-cooked over a BBQ pit...
 
2003-02-21 10:00:42 AM
The love story in Ep II was so awful, and the chemistry so bad. At no point did I ever think that Portman was into Christensen's creepy, pushy, clingy overtures. And when she finally confessed her love I was flabbergasted. Up till that point I honestly thought he was going to go to the dark side and rape her because he was so totally obsessed with her and she was so obviously uninterested in him.
 
2003-02-21 10:04:56 AM
I am a huge star wars fan. I love the holy trilogy, xwing & tie fighter games and I've read many of the books. Ep 1&2 sucked major donkey balls.

JarJar needs to die a violent and bloody death.
Tarkin needs to be introduced.
Christensen made Hammil look like an Oscar contender.
Why, oh sweet god why, were C3PO and R2D2 brought into the prequels?
Why did they make the Fetts a couple of mexicans? Jango didn't have shiat on Bobba.
Storm Troopers should not have been the clones. (shouldn't the STs all sound like the same mexican in 4-6 then?)
Where are the Victory class Star Destroyers and Z95 Headhunters, etc in 1-3?

I could go on and on but Lucas is a tool who sold out and cashed in. Yes, John Williams is a fantastic composer, my biggest problem with him is he's pretty much stolen and rewritten everything he's done. Go listen to Quiddich March in Harry Potter to Tchakovsky's Swan Lake Scene 10. He's always had quite a rep for ripping off Wagner.

/ultimate dork
 
2003-02-21 10:17:28 AM
Episode 1 wasn't 'that' bad, but I was drunk at the time so my memory might be betraying me. Still, I think that the first three eps would play well on MST3.

short silence for fallen heros

Unfortunatly, as much as I like SW, I think Buckaroo Banzei is a better film.
 
2003-02-21 10:29:01 AM
You lot do realise that these films are aimed at 11-13 year olds?

just checking...
 
2003-02-21 10:50:28 AM
DjArcas
You lot do realise that these films are aimed at 11-13 year olds?

just checking...


I am 55 years old, not quite dead yet thank you.

You do realize that you are just trolling?

I thought so.
 
2003-02-21 10:53:57 AM
Why did they make the Fetts a couple of mexicans?

I'm guessing you don't have a lot of Polynesians up there in Wisconsin, Luckycarbon. The actors who played Jango

and Boba Fett are both Maoris from New Zealand.


Incidentally, and for no other reason than my own masterbatory purposes, I actually got to go on-set a few times during the filming of episode II and have actually been in the Fett's apartment.


Fap fap fap...

 
2003-02-21 12:59:36 PM
Hip_about_time is a life long fanboy.
Wanna hear somethig possible and creepy? Lucas makes Episodes 7-9, And the story is this, Luke gets poosesed by the emeror, being the only force user alive he IS the balance of the force so hs embodies the light and dark sides, (He did force choke those Gamoreans at the first of ROTJ) and luke takes over the Empire as its new Ruler, leia leeds a resistance movement against him which Thaws out a cloned Anakin (Played by Hayden) and we get to see a climactic Duel between Anakin and Luke AGAIN at the end of the trillogy only this time its an Old Mark Hamil (All wrinkled and consumed by the dark side like the Emperror was) and A young Anakin. And Anakin defeats/ redeems Luke Who Deafeated/ redemmed him in 6 and the circle is complete. Yall chew on that till your brain explodes. Orangeglow is the finest of all the Farkettes as well. And OMG a Fanbabe to boot!
 
2003-02-21 02:25:06 PM
02-21-03 10:04:56 AM Luckycarbon
John Williams is a fantastic composer, my biggest problem with him is he's pretty much stolen and rewritten everything he's done. Go listen to Quiddich March in Harry Potter to Tchakovsky's Swan Lake Scene 10. He's always had quite a rep for ripping off Wagner.


You ever listen to Holst's The Planet Suite? Check out Neptune...
 
2003-02-21 03:17:42 PM
Speaking of rip offs, I watched hidden fortress a few months back, the DVD had a short by Lukas, he said he was influenced by it in making star wars.

To the tune of using the same damn dissolves and much the same story line.
 
2003-02-21 04:25:47 PM
Man..and I thought we were up in arms at the MSN . Dune site...LOL


Boschka
 
2003-02-21 05:26:07 PM



And now young Hymer, you will die.
 
2003-02-22 12:17:08 AM
At least we can try persuading Lucas not to screw Star Wars up so much...

http://www.petitiononline.com/swpdvd/petition.html
 
2003-02-22 09:54:49 AM
If Ben Kenobi went to such incredible ends to hide the Skywalker twins... even by splitting them up to keep them safe (They were seperated at birth to protect their identities [R.O.T.J.]) ... then why the hell did Luke Skywalker end up keeping his damned surname. Surely the name "Skywalker" would be associated with nose-goblins and foreskin scrapings or something insidiously similar, especially considering how feared and loathed the Skywalker family name must have been. And surely, even as Darth Vader, Annakin would have been able to hunt down his jackassed spawn... A name such as "Skywalker" stands out like a used condom in a bento box. Anyone else have an explaination? I really would like to hear one... it helps with that whole "suspension of disbelief" stuff.
 
2003-02-22 11:00:13 AM
fark Lucas. fark him up his stupid ass.
 
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