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2009-06-20 10:29:34 AM
Can't it be 'neither'?
 
2009-06-20 10:30:53 AM
I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.
 
2009-06-20 10:32:15 AM
I vote for neither
 
2009-06-20 10:35:12 AM
Another example of people just not getting it. When "Borat" came out, people from so called east bloc countries were all upset that it poked fun at them. They didn't realize he was showing the ignorance of the people he dealt with, not making fun of Kazakhstan.
 
2009-06-20 10:35:12 AM
Mugato: I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.

where does that leave the lesbians?
 
2009-06-20 10:41:41 AM
i want to swap him for an ipod...or change his name to some traditional african american name like oj

...i wasn't able to tell from the trailer...but Bruno looks gay

/can't wait for July 10th
 
2009-06-20 10:41:58 AM
FeedTheCollapse: where does that leave the lesbians?

Lesbians don't seem to complain as much about petty stuff like this. They're not as loud anyway.
 
2009-06-20 10:45:36 AM
Sacha needs to learn he's much funnier without resorting to the 'sledge hammer' style of comedy.

Otherwise, his characters get tiresome after about fifteen minutes.
 
2009-06-20 10:45:48 AM
RedEyedWings: Can't it be 'neither'?

Can't we wait to see the movie before rendering judgment and/or being outraged, or is hating SBC the "hip" thing to do nowadays since Borat made him mainstream.

/ "So I can still admire another man's penis in the shower, but the moment I put it in my mouth some sort of line has been crossed?"
//nicht nicht
 
2009-06-20 10:46:53 AM
How can it be really funny when it's got Sacha Baron Cohen?

dougfm: They didn't realize he was showing the ignorance of the people he dealt with, not making fun of Kazakhstan.

Nope. This is what people say so they can get away with saying offensive things. ("He's not a racist. He's making fun of racists!")

Borat was three kilos offensive and five grams funny.
 
2009-06-20 10:47:00 AM
FeedTheCollapse: Mugato: I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.

where does that leave the lesbians?


at a softball game?
 
2009-06-20 10:48:43 AM
Mugato: FeedTheCollapse: where does that leave the lesbians?

Lesbians don't seem to complain as much about petty stuff like this. They're not as loud anyway.


I wasn't expecting a serious answer to a non-serious question...

/someone slept during women's suffrage.
 
2009-06-20 10:51:39 AM
FeedTheCollapse: Mugato: FeedTheCollapse: where does that leave the lesbians?

Lesbians don't seem to complain as much about petty stuff like this. They're not as loud anyway.

I wasn't expecting a serious answer to a non-serious question...

/someone slept during women's suffrage.


so obviously we must get a petition started to end women's suffrage

/manshow
 
2009-06-20 10:53:00 AM
I'm gay, and I thought the trailer was hilarious. Yeah, sure there will be idiots who will think that the film really depicts gay people, but those are the same people who laughed at Dave Chappelle because they thought he was making black people look stupid.

Bruno isn't going to make homophobes any more jerkish than they already are.
 
2009-06-20 10:54:40 AM
BorgiaGinz: Bruno isn't going to make homophobes any more jerkish than they already are.

QFT
 
2009-06-20 10:56:06 AM
Fuggin Bizzy: Nope. This is what people say so they can get away with saying offensive things. ("He's not a racist. He's making fun of racists!")

Umm...a lot of the offensive statements in Borat were about Jews. Somehow I doubt he's an anti-semite.

/ Damn, I'm feeling like the SBC defense brigade, and I didn't even like Borat movie
// I did like the show on HBO.
 
2009-06-20 10:56:11 AM
karasoth: I vote for neither

I as well take neither. Borat was just stupid, not funny. This guy is Tom Green rehashed. He does shocking stuff to be relevant. It won't last
 
2009-06-20 10:56:12 AM
He's not parodying gay people, he's playing off of attitudes people will display towards 'minorities' same thing he did with Borat
 
2009-06-20 10:57:31 AM
FeedTheCollapse: /someone slept during women's suffrage

All the women who wanted to vote were lesbians?

Anyway, it's annoying when someone says they don't like something and then someone else dismisses the opinion as being "hip". The funniest parts of Borat were when he wasn't getting assholes to say asshole things. I don't need biting satire to tell me that a southern redneck is a racist or a bunch of frat guys are douchebags. The scenes in Kazakhstan were pretty funny though.
 
2009-06-20 11:02:32 AM
Fuggin Bizzy: BorgiaGinz: Bruno isn't going to make homophobes any more jerkish than they already are.

QFT


RQFT

seriously this is more insulting to the homophobes than anyone else..

/lesbian
/not a quiet one
 
2009-06-20 11:03:01 AM
SaladMonkey: Somehow I doubt he's an anti-semite.

I didn't mention anti-semitism. You brought that up.
 
2009-06-20 11:08:03 AM
He's as harmful to the cause as Hard Gay.

i61.photobucket.com
 
2009-06-20 11:10:23 AM
Fuggin Bizzy: SaladMonkey: Somehow I doubt he's an anti-semite.

I didn't mention anti-semitism. You brought that up.


You're right, I have to apologize. I missed your first sentence referencing Kazakhstan as the object he's making fun of.

/still disagree with your point though
 
2009-06-20 11:23:58 AM
when he was doing Da Ali G show, I have to say I really preferred this iteration of Bruno better
snagwiremedia.com
 
2009-06-20 11:34:53 AM
Mugato: I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.

I guess people only thought he was funny when he made fun of conservatives.../americans and his homeland of Mypos.
 
2009-06-20 11:40:44 AM
richlw: I as well take neither. Borat was just stupid, not funny. This guy is Tom Green rehashed. He does shocking stuff to be relevant. It won't last

Mugato: Anyway, it's annoying when someone says they don't like something and then someone else dismisses the opinion as being "hip". The funniest parts of Borat were when he wasn't getting assholes to say asshole things. I don't need biting satire to tell me that a southern redneck is a racist or a bunch of frat guys are douchebags. The scenes in Kazakhstan were pretty funny though.

generaltimmy: I guess people only thought he was funny when he made fun of conservatives.../americans and his homeland of Mypos.

Ambush comedy gets real old real quick. Even at the height of the Daily Show when their reporting cadre consisted of Colbert, Carrell, Rocca, and Walls, the ambush interviews were some of the least funny pieces ever. It's like the punchline is stretched out over five minutes, and with any other form of humor is plainly obvious it's not funny.
 
2009-06-20 11:42:53 AM
The idea that people find him offensive offends me.
 
2009-06-20 11:54:50 AM
FeedTheCollapse: Mugato: I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.

where does that leave the lesbians?


If you can take a fist, you can take a joke?
 
2009-06-20 12:12:06 PM
His shtick is old and tired.
 
2009-06-20 12:13:29 PM
Biggest stereotype slam at gays since Queer Eye.
 
2009-06-20 12:18:43 PM
Cohen is hilarious. Get over yourselves.
 
2009-06-20 12:21:38 PM
also, I like how Fox News cares about how gays feel all of a sudden
 
2009-06-20 12:28:43 PM
There was an Ali G movie, right? So that means all three of his shticks are done, and we won't be seeing anymore box office crap from this guy ever again, right?

RIGHT?!?!
 
2009-06-20 01:14:18 PM
Why. Can't it be both?

Screw you haters - stay on your goddamned high horses and go back to your country club and laugh at the help
 
2009-06-20 01:25:56 PM
Most gay men and lesbians I know have a lot of experience with being made fun of, and have developed a thick skin as a result.

I seriously doubt SBC will do much more than make homophobes look like idiots.
 
2009-06-20 01:50:43 PM
There will be no gay stereotypes in the Toronto Gay Parade next week

www.panicmanual.com
www.redtag.ca
 
2009-06-20 01:52:14 PM
Bee Roo Ga Ho Shee: There was an Ali G movie, right? So that means all three of his shticks are done, and we won't be seeing anymore box office crap from this guy ever again, right?

RIGHT?!?!


wrong. it just means that those 3 characters are retired. he was in Talladega Nights and some other things.

we will be seeing quite a bit of him, im afraid.

my concern is this though: sasha baron cohen is a genius. his characters are stupid, and hes admitted they are. the joke is that the people he shows are stupid enough to think that such a person can actually exist. he makes his characters as stupid as possible to poke fun at the people who think hes for real.

he has a degree from Harvard. so he has potential. I think he could be a great dramatic actor, but I hope hes not doing comedy forever, because this is really beneath him.
 
2009-06-20 02:04:53 PM
NeuroticRocker:

my concern is this though: sasha baron cohen is a genius. his characters are stupid, and hes admitted they are. the joke is that the people he shows are stupid enough to think that such a person can actually exist. he makes his characters as stupid as possible to poke fun at the people who think hes for real.




I know that is what he wants you to believe but in reality he just goes off on insane rants and the "marks" just stare at him with disbelief.

The only person in that entire Borat movie that he "fooled" was the douchebag at the rodeo. Everyone else in the film was kind to him until he flipped out. Then they just wanted him to leave quietly.
 
2009-06-20 02:15:56 PM
T.M.S.: NeuroticRocker:

my concern is this though: sasha baron cohen is a genius. his characters are stupid, and hes admitted they are. the joke is that the people he shows are stupid enough to think that such a person can actually exist. he makes his characters as stupid as possible to poke fun at the people who think hes for real.

I know that is what he wants you to believe but in reality he just goes off on insane rants and the "marks" just stare at him with disbelief.

The only person in that entire Borat movie that he "fooled" was the douchebag at the rodeo. Everyone else in the film was kind to him until he flipped out. Then they just wanted him to leave quietly.


thats fair. i didnt see borat because i saw da ali g show. its the same jokes i assume. and same with borat.

im not a fan of these movies.

i remember loving austin powers when i was...however old i was. a teenager. now im just sickened by them. i dont ONLY watch arthouse films, but i like the silly movies to have at least a tiny bit of depth or substance. like office space or idiocracy.
 
2009-06-20 02:34:43 PM
he's not funny, he's never been funny and all his characters are farkin stupid


/the new tom green
 
2009-06-20 02:42:49 PM
NeuroticRocker: T.M.S.: NeuroticRocker:

my concern is this though: sasha baron cohen is a genius. his characters are stupid, and hes admitted they are. the joke is that the people he shows are stupid enough to think that such a person can actually exist. he makes his characters as stupid as possible to poke fun at the people who think hes for real.

I know that is what he wants you to believe but in reality he just goes off on insane rants and the "marks" just stare at him with disbelief.

The only person in that entire Borat movie that he "fooled" was the douchebag at the rodeo. Everyone else in the film was kind to him until he flipped out. Then they just wanted him to leave quietly.

thats fair. i didnt see borat because i saw da ali g show. its the same jokes i assume. and same with borat.

im not a fan of these movies.

i remember loving austin powers when i was...however old i was. a teenager. now im just sickened by them. i dont ONLY watch arthouse films, but i like the silly movies to have at least a tiny bit of depth or substance. like office space or idiocracy.


I did not like Borat or Da Ali G show at all but one night the Ali G Movie came on tv and I decide to give it a try. (mostly so I could complete my smug trifecta of SBC hate)

That movie was hysterical. I enjoyed it a great deal.
 
2009-06-20 02:46:30 PM
neither.
 
2009-06-20 03:09:42 PM
ozone: Screw you haters - stay on your goddamned high horses and go back to your country club and laugh at the help

Welp, you've got me pegged. What can I say?

Fritz, you idiot, I didn't order "a bologna" sandwich, I ordered "an abalone" sandwich.
 
2009-06-20 03:55:38 PM
I'll vote "retarded."
 
2009-06-20 04:09:35 PM
Mugato: I'm sick of gays being offended by everything. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.

Based on the gays I know, a hell of a lot of them can take a joke.
 
2009-06-20 04:11:29 PM
T.M.S.: NeuroticRocker: T.M.S.: NeuroticRocker:

my concern is this though: sasha baron cohen is a genius. his characters are stupid, and hes admitted they are. the joke is that the people he shows are stupid enough to think that such a person can actually exist. he makes his characters as stupid as possible to poke fun at the people who think hes for real.

I know that is what he wants you to believe but in reality he just goes off on insane rants and the "marks" just stare at him with disbelief.

The only person in that entire Borat movie that he "fooled" was the douchebag at the rodeo. Everyone else in the film was kind to him until he flipped out. Then they just wanted him to leave quietly.

thats fair. i didnt see borat because i saw da ali g show. its the same jokes i assume. and same with borat.

im not a fan of these movies.

i remember loving austin powers when i was...however old i was. a teenager. now im just sickened by them. i dont ONLY watch arthouse films, but i like the silly movies to have at least a tiny bit of depth or substance. like office space or idiocracy.

I did not like Borat or Da Ali G show at all but one night the Ali G Movie came on tv and I decide to give it a try. (mostly so I could complete my smug trifecta of SBC hate)

That movie was hysterical. I enjoyed it a great deal.


He is a smart comic but thats not the fundemental premise of his jokes (and he knows it)

In most of the world their is a high social urge in all the folks to be polite to others.

He starts off small and builds up to the highest level of the absurd

the joke is when people go "OMFG this is crazy"
 
2009-06-20 04:20:21 PM
Bruno is as harmful to gay and lesbian causes as Borat was to Jewish causes. Meaning not at all.
 
2009-06-20 04:23:11 PM
NeuroticRocker: when he was doing Da Ali G show, I have to say I really preferred this iteration of Bruno better

You preferred his styling, or you preferred the sketches to the movie you haven't yet seen?
 
2009-06-20 04:43:21 PM
Rubber Biscuit: NeuroticRocker: when he was doing Da Ali G show, I have to say I really preferred this iteration of Bruno better

You preferred his styling, or you preferred the sketches to the movie you haven't yet seen?


upon watching the trailers and clips from his movies i feel like its not fresh material. i feel like ive seen it before.
 
2009-06-20 05:20:00 PM
Shaved kugelsack, ja!
 
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