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2009-06-19 11:27:52 PM
From the Gospel of Tatsuma:

Regarding the rumours of Mousavi's arrest in the Guardian: Twitter feeds on the ground are denying that this is what happened, while others do in fact say that he was arrested along all of his staff and that their offices were trashed. So far, we don't know for sure one way or another. It could be propaganda to scare the people, or it could be the truth as well.

A relatively large crowd was present to hear Khameini declared during the prayers, while Reformist leaders called on their supporters to stay home. It was very easy to notice that this crowd was also much older than those we have seen revolting.

There were two sermons, a religious one and a political one.
- The religious sermon itself was rather short and stayed on topic. It concentrated at first on peace and tranquility, leading into the fact that the Revolution was the Will of Allah, that it was sacred and its goals were the goals of Allah. He continued by asking Allah victory over their common enemies, and that people who went against the Revolution were enemies of Allah.

- The policial speech was much longer and disjointed. He started by thanking everyone for the election, then he proceeded to blame the West, claimed that Iran was one of the most democratic country on Earth and that the results were not rigged. He claimed that while yes, there is some corruption in Iran, it's nowhere near the UK MP expenses scandal. He then directly threatened the pro-Reformists leaders, saying that all the violence will be their responsibility. This is all the works of Zionist spies and British radio, and Hillary Clinton was responsible for Waco so Iran is better than America and the West.

There are three major statements to be gleaned from these speech, with further confirmation of a fourth. However boring and long-winded it might have been to the Western ear, it was a major milestone of this revolution, and its implications are far-reaching:

1- His declaration that the Islamic Revolution sacred, that its goals were the goals of Allah and that those who went against it were the enemies of Allah. He then asked Allah victory over the enemies.

This is major. He has in fact painted the entire reformist movement as being anti-Islamic. Due to his position, and the tone that he adopted, this is basically a death sentence delivered to those who will keep on protesting. Not unexpected, but a bold move nonetheless.

2 - He fully supports Ahmadinejad.

This is not a surprise, but he did not back down one inch. He does not give credibility to any of the Reformist claims, and says to either toe the line, or suffer the consequences.

3 - He has put the responsability of violence on the shoulders of the Reformist leaders, and openly declared that he is not going to tolerate it anymore.

This means that the repression from now on will be much more violent, and has more or less openly threatened the leaders of the Revolution that they will pay with their lives if they continue.

4 - As confirmed by Stratfor, the Revolutionary Guard has taken over from the police in all matters of domestic law and order. This effectively means that they are going to start crushing dissent as well, and that they have allied themselves to the regime.

Out of all major developments, this is the biggest one. Will the army stay Neutral, toe the line or side with the Reformists?
 
2009-06-19 11:28:44 PM
II Tatsuma:

The big event tomorrow will be the march at 4PM in Tehran. This moment seems as defining as yesterday's Khameini speech was. It also seems that in reaction to being relegated second in the Satans category in Khameini's speech, the U.S. House has decided to pass a resolution supporting the protesters and Obama is expected to endorse it, which will most likely lead to further delegitimization of the Reformist movement.

In other news, things are going from bad to worse for the Basij and they are starting not only to lose ground, but to fear for their safety. There are many reports that most Basij forces are now hiding their identities with masks for fear of reprisal. There are websites being created featuring images and often identities of Basij who have been violently repressing students, calling for actin to be taken against those men. Now the youth have started to hunt Basij as well. In their own neighbourhoods, where they know each others, they are now laying trap to known basij members, using side streets and houses to attack. They strike, and then they hide, only to regroup further, launch another attack and disperse again. Every house is unlocked and they have the tacit support of the population while no help helps the Basij. This might explain why the IRG has been called to take a more active role in the future.

I really am trying to cram the most relevant information and speculation only. Everything is updated as events unfold, especially the timeline and what will happen in the future. If you want to link this, here is the website, updated as the situation changes:

https://sites.google.com/site/tatsumairanupdate/

For those wondering, here is the current time in Iran

All twitter posts about the army being involved are false as I am writing this Warning, new twitter feeds are most likely government members trying to spread misinformation, ignore them! They have really stepped-up their efforts in the last day or so. Also, there is a handful of good twitter feeds, but please do not publicize their usernames, they are in enough danger as it is and they don't need more publiclity. Those in the know will c/p their entries. Major timeline overhaul, including what has unfolded in the last few hours.

Suppression of Dissent - The Players

Currently, there are either two or three maybe four groups who are suppressing the students on the ground that you'll read about throughout this thread:


1. The Basij
2. Ansar Hizbullah (which I will refer to as Ansar)
3. Lebanese Hizbullah (Unconfirmed but either probable or a persistent rumour. Der Spiegel, based on a Voice of America report, says that 5,000 Hizbullah fighters are currently in Iran masquerading as riot police, confirming the independent reports. Iran Press News has posted two photographs of men they claim are Hizbullah and Hamas mercenaries. Many different independent reports and video point that way. Even in the last days other independent twitter feeds have declared witnessing thugs beating on people while shouting in Arabic; I will refer to them as Hizbullah)
4. Lebanese Hamas (unconfirmed and doubtful. This rumour has been cropping up all day, with some of the most twitter feeds saying they had visual confirmation of Lebanese Hamas fighters along with Lebanese Hizbullah member. Take with a grain of salt, but it has been mentioned often enough, by sources generally always right, that it deserves of a mention here. Iran Press TV also claims to have posted a picture of Hamas mercenaries. I will refer to them as Hamas)

- The Basij are your regular paramilitary organization. They are the armed hand of the clerics. The Basij are a legal group, officially a student union, and are legally under direct orders of the Revolutionary Guard. Their main raison d'être is to quell dissent. They are the ones who go and crack skulls, force people to participate in pro-regime demonstrations, and generally try to stop any demonstrations from even starting. They are located throughout the country, in every mosque, every university, every social club you can think of. They function in a way very similar to the brownshirts.

They were the ones who first started the crackdown after the election, but it wasn't enough. While they are violent and repressive, they are still Persian and attacking fellow citizens. A beating is one thing, mass killings another.

- Another group was working with them, whose members are even more extreme, is Ansar. There is a lot of cross-membership between the Basij and Ansar, though not all are members of the other group and vice-versa. The vast majority of Ansar are Persians (either Basij or ex-military), though a lot of Arab recruits come from Lebanon and train with them under supervision of the Revolutionary Guard. They are not functioning under a legal umbrella, they are considered a vigilante group, but they pledge loyalty directly to the Supreme Leader and most people believe that they are under his control. They are currently helping the Basij to control the riots, but due to the fact that they are Persians and in lower numbers than the Basij, they are not that active.

- The Lebanese Hizbullah is a direct offshoot (and under direct control) of the Iranian Hizbullah (itself under direct control of the Supreme Leader) and cooperates closely with Ansar though Ansar occupies itself only with Iran's domestic policies, while Hizbullah occupies itself only with Iran's foreign policy unless there is a crisis like right now. However, Hizbullah has been called to stop violent riots in Iran in the past.

(the following paragraph includes some speculation based on reports from ground zero, it is no confirmed, this is what was reported early on by various twitter feeds considered credible, so do not take this as anything but unconfirmed rumours) Hizbullah flew in a lot of their members in Iran, most likely a good deal even before the elections in case there were trouble. They are the ones who speak Arabs and are unleashing the biggest level of violence on the Persians so far. Another wave arrived recently and there is chatter that yet another wave of Hizbullah reinforcements are coming in from Lebanon as we speak. According to Iranians on the ground, they are the ones riding motorcycles, beating men women and children indiscriminately and firing live ammunitions at students.

- The Lebanese Hamas is a branch of Hamas set-up in Lebanon. Like Hamas in Gaza, Hamas in Lebanon is directly under the orders of the Hamas council of Damascus known as Majlis al-Shurah. While it is surprising to hear that they might be involved, and as I said take these reports with a grain of salt until we get more confirmations, it is not illogical either. Iran has become the main benefactor of Hamas in the last years, branching out from only supporting Islamic Jihad. They now provide Hamas with the bulk of their budget, with advanced weaponry and training by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Not only do Hamas own them a lot, but if the Republic falls, Hamas finds itself in dire trouble. It is very likely that, at the call of Iran, the Majlis al-Shura would have decided to send fighters from their Lebanese Hamas branch along with Hizbullah fighters if it was requested of them.

Other Players

Decided to create this section in order to give a wider range of explanations for people who might not be too familiar with Iran's internal politics and structure.

The Police

Iran's police is not dissimilar to your run-of-the-mill law enforcement in other dictatorships, with the difference that they are not generally as brutal and repressive. This is because the Basij are generally in charge of these activities, meaning that Iranian policemen generally concentrate more on the law and order aspect of Iranian daily life.

Today, it is thought that the Iranian police numbers close to 60,000 members, in contrast with up to a million Basij members. This is one of the reasons why we hear much more about the plainclothes militia than we do about the police right now, the other being that the Basij and Ansar are much more willing to violently assault their fellow citizens than even the regular police force. This is not as much a testament to the decency of your average police officers as much as a damning report of what the Basij and Ansar thugs are like.

There are also subdivisions and extra-legal forces attached to the police force. The major subdivision would be the riot police (So-called Unit 110) who are actually much more violent than regular police officers, but also in much, much smaller numbers. There is also VEVAK, the secret police. Very little is known and confirmed about them, except their extreme tactics include murder, kidnapping and torture.

The Army

In Iran, there are actually two armies. They are divided between Artesh and Pasdaran.

Artesh is the regular Military apparatus of the Republic. Their numbers, including reservists, go up to a million members, but only half of them have received anything more than very basic training. As it is often the case in police states, there is very little known and confirmed about the structure of the Army itself.

They were created prior to the Iranian Revolution, in fact this army has existed in one form or another, and is a continuation, for more than 2,500 years. This is not as impressive as it sounds, however, as they often underwent drastic changes, there is no real links between the current incarnations, and the top echelons were most often purged when new rulers took power. In fact, in the last 100 years, those purges happened between two or three times, depending on the count, the last time centered around the time of the Islamic revolution, when most generals were forced to flee, killed, or killed while in exile.

Artesh took the brunt of the military casualties during the Iran-Iraq war, the army is considered to very nationalist and not extremely religious, which explains why they have declared their neutrality and refusal to repress the situation, as they see their purpose to defend the Iranian population.

Everyone agrees they will be the ultimate key to this Revolution when they finally decide to take a side, or alternatively force the Pasdaran to stay on the sidelines with them.

Pasdaran, also known as Iranian Revolutionary Guard

The Iranian Ground forces (I will focus on them, as the Navy and Airforce are currently irrelevant, will update if the situation changes) have been estimated between 100,000 and 130,000 units total. As always, truth most likely resides somewhere in the middle. They are, much like the Basij and Ansar, subservient directly to the Supreme Leader, and ideologically created in the spirit of defending the Islamic Revolution ideals and Republic, not Iran per se. They also control the Basij.

They are a child of the revolution, and they are more geared toward guerilla warfare than they are for military engagements. They are also the force responsible for training the various terrorist groups financed and supported by the Iranian government. They are fanatically devoted to the Republic through intense indoctrination.

The elite troops are called Quds. They are considered the elite of the elite, but they only number between 2000-6000, although rumours say that they are twice or three time as big. They are, however, rumours and quite unlikely.

Ultimately, the Revolutionary Council and the Supreme Leader will call on them if they think they are on the verge of losing power, however it is unlikely that the army will just stay on the sidelines if this happens.

The Guardian Council, formerly known as The Revolutionary Council

The Revolutionary Council was created by Ayatollah Khomeini shortly before the Iranian Revolution. Since then, they have sat as the real authority of Iran. The Guardian Council is made up of 12 Ayatollahs, and they are the ones who dictate every little facet of Iranian life, making the position of President mostly irrelevant, as they do not take any major decisions without first asking permission from Khameini and his cronies. They do not have any qualms about hiding this, as the head of the Council is called "Supreme Leader".

The very goal of this revolution has become not only to elect Moussavi as President, but also elect Grand Ayatollah Montazeri as Supreme Leader. GA Montazeri has been calling for a separation of Mosque and State, and transferring most powers of the Supreme Leader to the President, including control of the Armed Forces.

The Grand Ayatollahs

The Grand Ayatollahs are Shiite clerics who first attained the position of Ayatollahs and then, through their knowledge of Islamic Jurisprudence, attained a supreme position and are regarded as the most important voice in Shia Islam today. They center around the holy Shiite city of Qom, though some live outside Iran.


What will happen

Unless the army decides to intervene in the favor of the Council and to stop the early beginnings of the new Revolution, Ansar & Hizbullah members will be the ones doing the brunt of the killing and repression with Basij as a support while also protecting government buildings and try to do crowd control. The police seems to have for the most part disbanded in centers like Tehran according to all reports, including international media. If the police decides to come back, they will focus less on protection and crowd control, so the Basij will start to crack more skulls).

Currently, this is what is happening. Regarding the repression of dissent.

As for the political scene, the majority of Grand Ayatollahs who expressed an opinion on this have sided with the protesters/against the results of the election. They are GA Ardebili, GA Montazeri, GA Shirazi, GA Golpaygani and GA Sanei. The only Grand Ayatollah who has sided in favor of the election results is Khameini, who is also the Supreme Leader of the Revolutionary Council, and the facto ruler of Iran.

Timeline
note: I built this through both articles and twitter feeds, so I do not claim that this is a 100% factually correct representation of reality, but this is the general narrative.

14th of June - While the previous day had been witness to some protests, they were for the most part peaceful. However, as time grew the protests turned more and more violent. When the first spontaneous riots erupted, the first wave of violence was unleashed. The Iranian Riot Police was called in to support the regular police officers controlling the protests, and shortly after the Basij also took the scene, moving from a passive to active role of repression. The RP concentrated mostly around public buildings and streets while the Basij took position around student groups, especiallly universities.

- As things got more out of hand, more and more Basij troops were called in, as the police started dispersing. The riot police are less inclined (or, rather I should say the Basij are more inclined) to use violence so they retreated and leaving the place to the Basij. The repressive forces concentrated their assault mostly around the main Iranian universities, while the riot police were concentrating on protecting various government buildings such as the Interior Ministry. At least two people had been killed already.

- On the telecommunication front, this is when we started to hear more and more from twitters while videos were being freely updated to youtube (while youtube started to delete the more violent ones a few hours later). This is also the moment where the government realized what was happening, and ordered for the internet, phone lines and cellphones to be cut off, in order to avoid people communicating with the outside world.

late 14th, early 15th of June - This is the second wave of violent repression. At this point, violent riots had spread all over the main cities of Iran. The violence against citizens was not only the fruit of the Basij anymore, but also came from Ansar Hizbullah members. This is the point where firearms started being used. There were reports of a few murders but it was mostly fired in the air or on walls in order to scare away protesters in University dorms. It's also around the same time that the first reports and videos of an important number of non-Persian thugs shouting in Arabic and violently beating people with chains, clubs and electric batons (similar to cattle prods), which led to many speculating that lebanese Hizbullah members were now in Iran. Der Spiegel, through Voice of America, later claimed that 5000 Hizbullah fighters were passing off as Riot Police, validating the claims of many independent sources and twitter feeds.

- Universities have been the hotbed of protests, serving as a hub of anti-government demonstrations and preparations. 120 teachers from the Sharid University resigned in protest over the election results. Perfectly away of this, the Basij, Ansar and possibly Hizbullah members concentrated their attacks on University Dorms all over the country, storming them and beating students, destroying everything, especially computers.

- The end of the second wave came right before the beginning of the current manifestation. Things were getting quieter with only sporadic reports of dissenters being assaulted. Important to note: at this time. the Supreme Leader authorized the plainclothes militias to use live ammunition against the crowd if things were to get out of hands. By the end of the first two waves of protests, hundreds of people had been arrested.

midday, 15th of June - This brings us to the third wave, which just began around 12:30PM for those of us on the East Coast. Plainclothes militia opened fire on civilians protesting peacefully. Possibly up to 2 million protesters took the street. Chaos erupted in the streets, with reports of fighting all over Tehran and spreading over Iran as the news circulated. Pictures of people shot, some to death, finally surfaced and were published in the mainstream media. Violent and murderous repression has started. At least a twenty people had been killed at this by the end of the 15th of June.

- There is a major national crackdown on students, especially those with connections to the outside world going on right now. Students are fighting back in some areas. Telephones are being bugged and everyone twittering and sending videos outside of Iran are being rounded up. ISPs were shut down, government hackers are threatening people who twitter, and some of them have vanished in the last 24 hours.

- Eventually, the people started to fight back. First, they took over and burned down a Basij base, killing its commander. Later, a Basij shot a young man in the face in front of their HQ, at which point a policeman went to confront them. The Basij beat the policeman, at which point students stormed the compound, throwing molotov cocktails, burning it to the ground.

- During the night, the police entered certain neighbourhood to arrest public servants and force them to appear at tomorrow's pro-Ahmadinejad manifestation, but the people went out in the street and forced them out of their neighbourhoods. The Basij have kept on storming dorms. So far the reports are conflicting, but it appears that the death toll could be as high as 40 for the protesters, with two dead on the side of the repressive militias. This is the end of the third wave.

early 16th of June - Supporters of Moussavi have a manifestation planned for 5pm, Tehran time. Roughly the same number or more is expected to attend. People are dressed in black and told to protest silently.

- The pro-Ahmadinejad crowd however are planning a counter-demonstration at the very same place the supporters are supposed to gather at 3pm. Most agree that basically they are simply going to gather for a confrontation. Rumours are that they are taking position in buildings next to the parade and in bunkers to attack. Basij from all over the country are moving to Tehran and supporters are being bused from all over the country. A major showdown is expected to unfold.

- The crackdown on people using telecommunication is as strong as ever. Anyone with a laptop, camera or cellphone is attacked in the street by plainclothes militias. Tehran hotels are under lockdown to prevent the members of the foreign press not yet expulsed from reporting what is happening.

- As for the Iranian Government and different branches, there are rumours that many Army Generals have been arrested for plotting a Coup d'État, but this is still speculation at this point. The Supreme Leader has also called for a 10-day inquiry into the claims of fraud, but it has been widely dismissed as cosmetic. Moussavi and his supporters have rejected this, claiming that they want new elections. Khameini is now using the armed Basij as his own bodyguards, hundreds of them are surround him and his residence to protect from attempted assassinations. Ahmadinejad himself is in Russia right now, for a planned visit, and tries to pretend that everything is good as usual.

midday 16th of June to early 17th of June - The fourth wave of violence has started, and was expected to flare up very soon. It surprisingly was quite mild. Pro-Moussavi supporters said that there were even more people today protesting against the regime, though raw numbers are hard to get. If this is true, it means there are more than 2M protesters in the street right now. They are dressed in black and protesting silently and without violence so far. Other reports that only 250,000 were in the street, possibly scared by the Basij and propaganda.

- The Basij, surprisingly, did not attacking the march itself but rather assaulted dorms again. It looks like they are using the march as a diversion. In Tehran proper, 2000 Basij are waiting to storm the male dorm, and they are backed by IRG helicopters, which seems to send the message that the IRG has broken from their undeclared neutrality toward tacitely supporting the Regime.

- The crackdown on telecommunications is starting to suffocate all of Iran. As of now:

* Gmail, GTalk, Yahoo, Aim and ICQ are shut down
* Phone lines, cellphones and SMS are down most of the time
* HTTPS and other such protocols are down most of the time, so are ISPs
* They are trying very hard to close down the Iranian connexion to twitter and giving proxies they control in order to track down people

People are also receiving phone calls from the government saying "We know you were in the protests".

- Night fell on Iran, and the Basij were roaming, attacking passerbys at random. They had also surrounded dorms and stormed them once again.

17th of June - With the end of the fourth wave of violence, we have been in a wait and see mode. As of right now, there are many rumors involving clerics and Ayatollahs meeting in the Holy Shiite city of Qom and planning to overthrow Khameini, as well as reports that some in the Army plotting to overthrow the government, semi-confirmations from credible twitterers, but nothing concrete or substantiated so far. These would be extremely big development, so it's better to treat them with caution.

- Nothing much has happened on this day aside of that. There was another mostly peaceful march, with around 500,000 protesters in the street. The Basij and others are still roaming around and beating on the population, as well as dressing in green, destroying buildings and trying to pin the blame on the protesters in order to make them look like a bunch of thugs.

- There have been more than a hundred people arrested in their hospital beds and taken to prison. The number of prisoners right now is estimated between 1,000 and 10,000; possibly more. The Basij are now laying traps into hospitals themselves, trying to snatch up protesters there. There are also reports that they are taking dead bodies before they are identified, stuffing them in vans and leaving to undisclosed locations. Doctors have been setting up outside clinics and fighting back in order to stop the Basij from doing what they do.

18th of June - The protests show no signs of slowing down, and the fact that the government has been less violent so far and concentrating on discrediting the protesters instead shows that they are losing grip and painfully aware of all the attention given to what is happening right now, CNN notwithstanding. It's also a worrying step, because the moment they start feeling they are losing grip even more is the moment where they might begin to unleash brutal waves of violence again, much worse than what we've seen so far.

- Iran Human Rights reports that today alone hundreds of members of the opposition and known Reformists have been arrested, some of them tortured in the basements of government buildings.

- There is a (so far) quiet march going on, where all the protesters are dressed in black and mourning those who have died so far. The crowds are estimated to be as big as they have been for the last few days, so that puts them between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 in Tehran alone.

- Khameini has agreed to a recount of 600 out of the thousands of ballot boxes, but this has been rejected by the opposition, who says that these elections are to be declared null and void, and that new elections have to be rescheduled. Khameini in return rejected this. There are reports that Mousavi went as far as saying that Khameini does not have authority to preside over the state of Iran anymore.

- As a sign of growing tension in the governmental apparatus, fist-fights were said to have broken out in Parliament over who to support, but it seems that the Parliament will ultimately back Ahmadinejad and Khameini to the end. The Interior Ministry has ordered a police investigation into the massacre of 7 civilians by a Basij firing in a crowd. There are also reports of police officers deserting their posts and joining the protesters, while others use their position in the police force as a way to warn protesters from incoming arrests or crack downs. The army is still silent. There are reports that the man who leaked results of the election giving Khatami winner and Ahmadinejad as losing in third position has been killed in a car "accident".

- The State TV has been turned into a full-blown anti-Revolution machine, constantly hammering on how evil the "thugs" who are smashing around private property are. Problem is that those thugs are in fact Basij dressed in green, but IRIB is reporting it as pro-Moussavi supporters. They have also been showing documentaries about the evils of the internet and how the US, UK and Israel are behind the protests. State Radio is not much better, with talking heads calling for the death of those evil thugs destabilizing the country at the behest of external forces. They have also issued false reports that Moussavi was "condeming the rioters".

- The Government has closed Iran to all foreign communication and coverage, according to many reports. It would also seem that the Iranian government has opened an account in the name of Ayatollah Khameini on Twitter. There are reports that senior aides to all reformist candidates have been arrested, but it has yet to be corroborated and this is not the first time we hear such reports.

- According to Reuters, Iranian prosecutors have warned of the death penalty for the rioters who are involved in violence. Islamic cleric have warned that not going to Friday's prayer service makes you worthy of the death penalty. It is unclear yet what isn't worthy of death penalty at this point if you protest against the regime.

- All the violence reported over Iran is now exclusively done by the Basij, Ansar and, if the rumours are true, Hizbullah and Hamas. The police have completely stopped participating in the repression of the population, and both the Army and IRG are standing still and not doing anything. This is good news, but the Basij are sadly not reducing the level of violence they are unleashing on the population, beating up everyone they can get their hands on. It continued all throughout the night and during the day, but due to the mass of people involved it seems that they are restraining themselves when it comes to the mass rallies, preferring to pick isolated targets.

- Universities have cancelled all exams all over the country, and a long list of rebel students was given to all universities and they have to report the students, who are to be arrested on sight.

- There have been a few confirmed cases of people threatened inside the United States for providing proxies for the revolution. Their details were available on the internet so they were passed around pro-Government forces. If you are helping this revolution, be careful to do so as anonymously as you can. It doesn't mean you are risking your life, but it could potentially result in harrassment or vandalism.

19th of June - Supreme Leader Khameini called for Friday Prayers where he was present and delivered the sermons. Reformist leaders and their supporters boycotted it. Supporters of Khameini flooded Tehran from all corners of Iran on Friday, and big post-speech clashes are expected during the night and tomorrow.

- Iranian prosecutors have warned protesters that violence might be punished with the death penalty, according to Reuters. As the Basij, they are cracking down on the population as ever, roaming the streets, vandalizing both pro and anti-Mousavi targets while pretending to be pro-Mousavi forces and trying to crack down on all dissenters.

The revolution lives on. Long live the revolution!

Demands from the protesters

Today, Mousavi gave an important speech. Here's the video, and translation

"I have come due to concerns of current political and social conditions - to defend the rights of the nation. I have come to improve Iran's International relations. I have come to tell the world and return to Iran our pride, our dignity, our future. I have come to bring to Iran a FUTURE of FREEDOM, of HOPE. I have come to represent the poor the helpless the hungry. I have come to be ACCOUNTABLE to you my people and to this world.

"Iran must participate in FAIR elections, it is a matter of national importance. I have come to you because of the corruption in Iran. 25% inflation means IGNORANCE - THIEVING - CORRUPTION - where is the wealth of my nation? What have you done with $300 BILLION in last 4 years - where is the wealth of the nation? The next Government of Iran will be chosen by the people. Why do all our young want to leave this country?"

"I know of no creation who places HIMSELF ahead of 20 million of the nation. We are Muslims - what is happening in Iran's Government is a sin! This Government is not what Imam Khomeini wanted for Iran - I will change all this - This is the SEA of GREEN!!"


This is a major landmark. Here are the 7 demands that are distributed by pamphlets to protesters:

1. Dismissal of Khamenei for not being a fair leader
2. Dismissal of Ahmadinejad for his illegal acts
3. Temporary appointment of Ayatollah Montazeri as the Supreme Leader
4. Recognition of Mousavi as the President
5. Forming the Cabinet by Mousavi to prepare for revising the Constitution
6. unconditional and immediate release of all political prisoners
7. Dissolution of all organs of repression, public or secret.

Who is Grand Ayatollah Montazeri?

Ayatollah Montazeri is a pro-Democracy, pro-Human Rights Ayatollah who was at one point possible successor of Khomeini, but became marginalized as he adopted what was seen as a too pro-Western, pro-Democracy stance.

Since shortly after beginning of the Revolution, he has been one of the fiercest critics of the Regime. The divide grew wider in 1988 when he had a falling out with Khomeini and was removed from his position as heir to the Supreme Leadership. He is one of the biggest proponents of women and civil rights for ALL Iranians, including much-maligned minorities like the Baha'is. In fact he goes further than the protections afforded to them under Sharia.

He is also a big critic of Ahmadinejad and has been seen for years as the best hope for Iran if he ever was to come to power, something that was unthinkable a mere week ago.

He has also come out with a statement saying that policemen who beat on protesters and follow orders will not be forgiven under Islam, and that even if the government cuts the lines of communication with the outside world, that it was too late and the truth was getting out

Links

For further information on the Basij, Global Security has a good article about the history of the Basij. CNN has a good article where eyewitnesses describe the type of violence usually unleashed by the Basij. Here is another good article from GS again giving more background information on the ruthless Ansar thugs. BBC profile of Grand Ayatollah Montazeri

important: The Iranian government is looking for dissident twitterers, so if you have an account, change your location and timezone to tehran!

regarding the supposed numbers received by all three candidates giving Moussavi the winner and Ahmadinejad third with 7M votes: The only confirmation is an Iranian journalist. We don't have any external data confirming those numbers. 7M for Ahmadinejad seems quite low, so treat this as an unsubstantiated rumour for the moment
 
2009-06-19 11:29:45 PM
The FARK Revolutionary Armed Forces:

The 1st Joint Task Conundrum "Combining operations to keep the important bits separate.":
The 101st Chairborne Infantry Division - "Duty, Honor, 127.0.0.1"
58008th SAC Squadron - "The skies are cleared for weird"
The 1337th Fighting Keyboards Mechanized Division - "From dev/null We Stab At Thee"

The 32nd Mechanized Heavy Farktillery Division:
522 Heavy Farktillery Brigade - "Baffle them with brilliance, or bombard them with bullshiat."
51st Farktillery Brigade - "If we run out of shells, we'll start firing the empty pony kegs"

The 69th Counter Psych-Ops Division:
23rd Mostly Unashamed Fark Furry Fireteam - "That's not my screen shot! Anyone got some Newcastle?"
302nd Eye Bleach Brigade - "The 23rd was never here."
301st Internet Propaganda Machine Core - "Bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."

The 82nd Airwaves Assault Communications Division:
316th IRL Public Affairs Brigade "Repeating the news for those too stupid to watch."
303rd Internet Media Propaganda Regiment: "Bringing you the Truth, no matter how bad it hurts".
140th Character Twit-Militia: "No, we don't get paid, but at least we can tweet about it"

The 1024th Binary Operations Corps:
501st Hacktivists Division - "What's that on our webp... OH GOD, MY EYES! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
404th Logistical Support Battalion (proxies) - "We Hide With Pride So Others May Be Found"
50th Tactical Torrent Brigade - "We Seed so you don't have to!"
4077th Photoshop Division - "The Few, the Proud, the Digitally Insane"

The 22nd Anti-Personnel Division:
32nd Onion Ring & Bean Dip Chemical Weapons Brigade - "Silent and Deadly"
13th Tinfoil Helmet Brigade - "Semper Fnord"
52nd Mis-Information Troll Brigade - "Water is wet. Response: To some, yes, but that's what they want you to think"

Independent Operational Units:
The 22nd BoB Division. Belligerent Old Bastards - "Shouting at Clouds, Chugging MoM, Get Off the Lawn"
The 81st Carpal Tunnelers, "Depth Chargers"
The 14th Fark Lite Brigade - "Charging In As Soon As It's Green"
The 3rd Digital Peaceniks Division - "You have to listen to us, but at least you don't have to smell us."
The 42nd Anglo-French Silly Walking Python Ballistics Regiment. Motto:"Fetchez la vache"
The 505th F5 Lurkers Squadron - "Filling the skies with the F5"
The 4th Channel Clerical /b/rigade - "The power of the Lulz compels you!"
Farktography Special Detachment f/16 - "Elsinore's Whores"
TotalFark Marine BSOD Squadron -- "Esprit De Core Dump"
Special Investigations: Tatsuma Unit - "Because sleep isn't Kosher."
Fark Corps of Engineers, "Hell's Angles" - "Blowing your F*cking mind"
Copypastian Task Force: "Reposting things that we breaking news 24 hours ago (still 24 hrs AHEAD of CNN)"
Lurking Irregulars Tehran Twitter Division AKA Tube Rats (Motto: "We give a rat's a$$")
The Irregular Internet Militia - "Have blog, will post about it"
Fark Anarchist Brigade: Because orders are for pussies
Special Forces who are simply Anonymous - "Alone, Unarmed, Unafraid"
 
2009-06-19 11:37:58 PM
Uh... Which one do we vote on?
 
2009-06-19 11:44:18 PM
Sooo is this really the new thread?
 
2009-06-19 11:46:20 PM
I don't think anyone knows. It's up to the TFers and the mods. I didn't realize there where two other competing potential threads.
 
2009-06-19 11:46:37 PM
This thread seems to be the cleverest, so it gets my vote.
 
2009-06-19 11:46:40 PM
Assuming this is the next to go green, I hope it's followed by 28 Threads Later: Iran Discussion Continues
 
2009-06-19 11:47:30 PM
Anarchangel: Assuming this is the next to go green, I hope it's followed by 28 Threads Later: Iran Discussion Continues

If I'm awake, I'm stealing that, since my Freddie Mercury thread fell through.
 
2009-06-19 11:47:39 PM
its the one i saw a link to, so it is the one i keep my drunk ass in until i see a new link

/ahm's a simpuhl man
 
2009-06-19 11:48:07 PM
Generally, the winning thread is whichever one gets linked in the thread before first.

So this is most likely it--but if we get MAJOR updates, you may want to crosspost it to all three.
 
2009-06-19 11:48:22 PM
UNC_Samurai: Anarchangel: Assuming this is the next to go green, I hope it's followed by 28 Threads Later: Iran Discussion Continues

If I'm awake, I'm stealing that, since my Freddie Mercury thread fell through.


It's not stealing, you have my permission. :)
 
2009-06-19 11:49:43 PM
My only contribution to these threads:

Iranian Twitter Feed Grid (new window)


So, I've been pretty out of the loop since about this time last night. let me see if i get the whole jist of whats been going on.


SA had his speech, called for the death of those going against the government, etc

Basij are getting their asses kicked by protesters now. Hiding faces so as not to get retribution later. Websites now posting pictures of those who have been particularly brutal to the protesters.

IRG has finally made a move, though not one i was hoping for, and are the third round of law and order officials since the Basij have lost their power, or are quickly losing it. The IRG has yet to get as violent as the Basij though.

The Army has yet to make a move, for either side

Hizbollah reports may be false now

Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

have i missed anything?
 
2009-06-19 11:50:02 PM

Since it hasn't been greenlit yet:

Moving these threads to the Politics tab has only made the trolling worse. Main Page plz kthx
 
2009-06-19 11:50:06 PM
In before the Tatsuma flame/holy war starts up again!
 
2009-06-19 11:50:32 PM
lol
 
2009-06-19 11:52:00 PM
Anarchangel: UNC_Samurai: Anarchangel: Assuming this is the next to go green, I hope it's followed by 28 Threads Later: Iran Discussion Continues

If I'm awake, I'm stealing that, since my Freddie Mercury thread fell through.

It's not stealing, you have my permission. :)


That's a good one, and I think Tats requested a specific title for thread XXX, but I forgot what it was.
 
2009-06-19 11:52:39 PM
Anarchangel: Since it hasn't been greenlit yet:


Moving these threads to the Politics tab has only made the trolling worse. Main Page plz kthx


Seconded...noticed a DRASTIC increase in trolls the past few threads that went to the Politics tab....we've been off main enough to let the "crowding" die down.....have mercy on us!!!
/Please?
 
2009-06-19 11:52:41 PM
Anarchangel: Since it hasn't been greenlit yet:


Moving these threads to the Politics tab has only made the trolling worse. Main Page plz kthx


or at least, you know, "Showbiz"

/where the really action is
 
2009-06-19 11:53:30 PM
SEA OF GREEN!
SEA OF GREEN!
SEA OF GREEN!


Is there any problem that can't be solved by rythmic chanting?
 
2009-06-19 11:53:33 PM
greentea1985: Anarchangel: UNC_Samurai: Anarchangel: Assuming this is the next to go green, I hope it's followed by 28 Threads Later: Iran Discussion Continues

If I'm awake, I'm stealing that, since my Freddie Mercury thread fell through.

It's not stealing, you have my permission. :)

That's a good one, and I think Tats requested a specific title for thread XXX, but I forgot what it was.


Open wide, the revoution is coming, or something like that.
I think.
 
2009-06-19 11:53:47 PM
Hey, what is the longest running current event thread chain we've had here? we must be pushing limits with 27 of them now?


anyone also have the list of most commenting people in these thread?
 
2009-06-19 11:54:31 PM
Captain_Impavid: or at least, you know, "Showbiz"

/where the really action is


Well, Alyssa Milano has been very active in trying to get the word out....
 
2009-06-19 11:54:46 PM
somedude210: Hey, what is the longest running current event thread chain we've had here? we must be pushing limits with 27 of them now?


anyone also have the list of most commenting people in these thread?


Last post is on something like 160 or so.
 
2009-06-19 11:55:30 PM
Anarchangel: Since it hasn't been greenlit yet:

Moving these threads to the Politics tab has only made the trolling worse. Main Page plz kthx


Yes, mods. Besides, things are starting to heat up again. Trolls are a presence on the main page, but are even more of a problem on the tabs, where they are even more desperate for bites.
 
2009-06-19 11:55:42 PM
Pretty soon, we definitely should put these back on the main page. Today sounds like it's going to be a huge day for the revolution. I think we need to keep this at the forefront of all Farkers' minds. The world needs to be with Iran today.
 
2009-06-19 11:55:51 PM
MrCab: SEA OF GREEN!
SEA OF GREEN!
SEA OF GREEN!


Is there any problem that can't be solved by rythmic chanting?


Anal Polyps.

And maybe Celine Dion. not that we haven't tried.
 
2009-06-19 11:55:58 PM
somedude210: Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

His offices may have been trashed but the bolded part was just hearsay and isn't true.At least, I don't think any of the reliable sources have confirmed it at all.
(I know you said "may have" just saying bro)
 
2009-06-19 11:56:13 PM
melopene: somedude210: Hey, what is the longest running current event thread chain we've had here? we must be pushing limits with 27 of them now?


anyone also have the list of most commenting people in these thread?

Last post is on something like 160 or so.


hmm? could you clearify, i didnt quite get that

\lack of sleep. ive gone a week of 5 hours of sleep per night following this. i'm tired and happy
 
2009-06-19 11:56:15 PM
greentea1985: Anarchangel: Since it hasn't been greenlit yet:

Moving these threads to the Politics tab has only made the trolling worse. Main Page plz kthx

Yes, mods. Besides, things are starting to heat up again. Trolls are a presence on the main page, but are even more of a problem on the tabs, where they are even more desperate for bites.


I pegged the submission as main page, so hopefully they'll keep it there.
 
2009-06-19 11:56:22 PM
sys_64738: Well, Alyssa Milano has been very active in trying to get the word out....

She hooked us all up with a month-old shortcut to hidden iPhone features, too ...
 
2009-06-19 11:57:11 PM
m2313: somedude210: Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

His offices may have been trashed but the bolded part was just hearsay and isn't true.At least, I don't think any of the reliable sources have confirmed it at all.
(I know you said "may have" just saying bro)


haha, thats fine. i was looking to see if we had confirmed that or not. thank god he hasnt been or else the fires from Iran would probably be seen from space
 
2009-06-19 11:57:35 PM
sys_64738: Captain_Impavid: or at least, you know, "Showbiz"

/where the really action is

Well, Alyssa Milano has been very active in trying to get the word out....


Not surprising. She's a huge Flock of Seagulls fan. Always has been.
 
2009-06-19 11:57:38 PM
somedude210: melopene: somedude210: Hey, what is the longest running current event thread chain we've had here? we must be pushing limits with 27 of them now?


anyone also have the list of most commenting people in these thread?

Last post is on something like 160 or so.

hmm? could you clearify, i didnt quite get that

\lack of sleep. ive gone a week of 5 hours of sleep per night following this. i'm tired and happy


It's a TF thing, basically a bunch of people compete to see who can get the last post in a thread before it automatically gets closed off. The 100th one went green on the main page, THAT was some entertainment.
 
2009-06-19 11:57:57 PM
m2313: somedude210: Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

His offices may have been trashed but the bolded part was just hearsay and isn't true.At least, I don't think any of the reliable sources have confirmed it at all.
(I know you said "may have" just saying bro)


Ya, the office trashing has been confirmed, but I haven't heard anything about confirming the arrests....just a "SHHH! Or we smite thee" order.
 
2009-06-19 11:58:11 PM
Is this where all the cool kids are?
 
2009-06-19 11:58:27 PM
of the 23rd. Reporting for duty.
 
2009-06-19 11:59:50 PM
Simple XI: Not surprising. She's a huge Flock of Seagulls fan. Always has been.

Flock of Seagulls have fans? That may be more world-changing than anything going on in Iran. ;)
 
2009-06-19 11:59:53 PM
m2313: somedude210: Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

His offices may have been trashed but the bolded part was just hearsay and isn't true.At least, I don't think any of the reliable sources have confirmed it at all.
(I know you said "may have" just saying bro)


it was in the realm of "maybe true" last time the update was...updated.

i think for future threads we can maybe strike through that bit. leaves it there for Tatsuma to official erase on his return (honoring his request not to alter his updates) while at the same time spreading the word that it is not actually true.
 
2009-06-19 11:59:53 PM
vegaswench: Is this where all the cool kids are?

I just asked my mom and she says, "Yes."
 
2009-06-20 12:00:03 AM
UNC_Samurai: The FARK Revolutionary Armed Forces:

The 1st Joint Task Conundrum "Combining operations to keep the important bits separate.":
The 101st Chairborne Infantry Division - "Duty, Honor, 127.0.0.1"
58008th SAC Squadron - "The skies are cleared for weird"
The 1337th Fighting Keyboards Mechanized Division - "From dev/null We Stab At Thee"

The 32nd Mechanized Heavy Farktillery Division:
522 Heavy Farktillery Brigade - "Baffle them with brilliance, or bombard them with bullshiat."
51st Farktillery Brigade - "If we run out of shells, we'll start firing the empty pony kegs"

The 69th Counter Psych-Ops Division:
23rd Mostly Unashamed Fark Furry Fireteam - "That's not my screen shot! Anyone got some Newcastle?"
302nd Eye Bleach Brigade - "The 23rd was never here."
301st Internet Propaganda Machine Core - "Bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."

The 82nd Airwaves Assault Communications Division:
316th IRL Public Affairs Brigade "Repeating the news for those too stupid to watch."
303rd Internet Media Propaganda Regiment: "Bringing you the Truth, no matter how bad it hurts".
140th Character Twit-Militia: "No, we don't get paid, but at least we can tweet about it"

The 1024th Binary Operations Corps:
501st Hacktivists Division - "What's that on our webp... OH GOD, MY EYES! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
404th Logistical Support Battalion (proxies) - "We Hide With Pride So Others May Be Found"
50th Tactical Torrent Brigade - "We Seed so you don't have to!"
4077th Photoshop Division - "The Few, the Proud, the Digitally Insane"

The 22nd Anti-Personnel Division:
32nd Onion Ring & Bean Dip Chemical Weapons Brigade - "Silent and Deadly"
13th Tinfoil Helmet Brigade - "Semper Fnord"
52nd Mis-Information Troll Brigade - "Water is wet. Response: To some, yes, but that's what they want you to think"

Independent Operational Units:
The 22nd BoB Division. Belligerent Old Bastards - "Shouting at Clouds, Chugging MoM, Get Off the Lawn"
The 81st Carpal Tunnelers, "Depth Chargers"
The 14th Fark Lite Brigade - "Charging In As Soon As It's Green"
The 3rd Digital Peaceniks Division - "You have to listen to us, but at least you don't have to smell us."
The 42nd Anglo-French Silly Walking Python Ballistics Regiment. Motto:"Fetchez la vache"
The 505th F5 Lurkers Squadron - "Filling the skies with the F5"
The 4th Channel Clerical /b/rigade - "The power of the Lulz compels you!"
Farktography Special Detachment f/16 - "Elsinore's Whores"
TotalFark Marine BSOD Squadron -- "Esprit De Core Dump"
Special Investigations: Tatsuma Unit - "Because sleep isn't Kosher."
Fark Corps of Engineers, "Hell's Angles" - "Blowing your F*cking mind"
Copypastian Task Force: "Reposting things that we breaking news 24 hours ago (still 24 hrs AHEAD of CNN)"
Lurking Irregulars Tehran Twitter Division AKA Tube Rats (Motto: "We give a rat's a$$")
The Irregular Internet Militia - "Have blog, will post about it"
Fark Anarchist Brigade: Because orders are for pussies
Special Forces who are simply Anonymous - "Alone, Unarmed, Unafraid"


Uh, had to grab trou and scurry from abandoned thread but here 'tis:

8063rd Modded*Absurdist*Surgical*Hijackers reporting for cleanup.

"No heart too many sizes too smal--wait for it--choppers!"

/hope I make anasleazyologist
//hail to the Chief, and King of all the surgeons
///he needs a Queen, to satisfy his urges
 
2009-06-20 12:00:25 AM
New improved Satan Internet Voltron Supports this thread.

farm3.static.flickr.com

Url http://tiny.cc/Xg0pK
 
2009-06-20 12:00:34 AM
I think im part of the 23rd and 1337th. can we have cross training?

\not to be confused with cross dressing
\\use the same uniforms
 
2009-06-20 12:01:10 AM
Captain_Impavid: m2313: somedude210: Mousavi and entire staff may have been arrested and offices trashed

His offices may have been trashed but the bolded part was just hearsay and isn't true.At least, I don't think any of the reliable sources have confirmed it at all.
(I know you said "may have" just saying bro)

it was in the realm of "maybe true" last time the update was...updated.

i think for future threads we can maybe strike through that bit. leaves it there for Tatsuma to official erase on his return (honoring his request not to alter his updates) while at the same time spreading the word that it is not actually true.


noted
 
2009-06-20 12:02:33 AM
somedude210: I think im part of the 23rd and 1337th. can we have cross training?

\not to be confused with cross dressing
\\use the same uniformsshiat, scratch that 23rd bit. i meant 32nd farktillary unit

\not a furry, NTTAWWT
 
2009-06-20 12:03:12 AM
jopyfarks: UNC_Samurai: The FARK Revolutionary Armed Forces:

The 1st Joint Task Conundrum "Combining operations to keep the important bits separate.":
The 101st Chairborne Infantry Division - "Duty, Honor, 127.0.0.1"
58008th SAC Squadron - "The skies are cleared for weird"
The 1337th Fighting Keyboards Mechanized Division - "From dev/null We Stab At Thee"

The 32nd Mechanized Heavy Farktillery Division:
522 Heavy Farktillery Brigade - "Baffle them with brilliance, or bombard them with bullshiat."
51st Farktillery Brigade - "If we run out of shells, we'll start firing the empty pony kegs"

The 69th Counter Psych-Ops Division:
23rd Mostly Unashamed Fark Furry Fireteam - "That's not my screen shot! Anyone got some Newcastle?"
302nd Eye Bleach Brigade - "The 23rd was never here."
301st Internet Propaganda Machine Core - "Bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."

The 82nd Airwaves Assault Communications Division:
316th IRL Public Affairs Brigade "Repeating the news for those too stupid to watch."
303rd Internet Media Propaganda Regiment: "Bringing you the Truth, no matter how bad it hurts".
140th Character Twit-Militia: "No, we don't get paid, but at least we can tweet about it"

The 1024th Binary Operations Corps:
501st Hacktivists Division - "What's that on our webp... OH GOD, MY EYES! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
404th Logistical Support Battalion (proxies) - "We Hide With Pride So Others May Be Found"
50th Tactical Torrent Brigade - "We Seed so you don't have to!"
4077th Photoshop Division - "The Few, the Proud, the Digitally Insane"

The 22nd Anti-Personnel Division:
32nd Onion Ring & Bean Dip Chemical Weapons Brigade - "Silent and Deadly"
13th Tinfoil Helmet Brigade - "Semper Fnord"
52nd Mis-Information Troll Brigade - "Water is wet. Response: To some, yes, but that's what they want you to think"

Independent Operational Units:
The 22nd BoB Division. Belligerent Old Bastards - "Shouting at Clouds, Chugging MoM, Get Off the Lawn"
The 81st Carpal Tunnelers, "Depth Chargers"
The 14th Fark Lite Brigade - "Charging In As Soon As It's Green"
The 3rd Digital Peaceniks Division - "You have to listen to us, but at least you don't have to smell us."
The 42nd Anglo-French Silly Walking Python Ballistics Regiment. Motto:"Fetchez la vache"
The 505th F5 Lurkers Squadron - "Filling the skies with the F5"
The 4th Channel Clerical /b/rigade - "The power of the Lulz compels you!"
Farktography Special Detachment f/16 - "Elsinore's Whores"
TotalFark Marine BSOD Squadron -- "Esprit De Core Dump"
Special Investigations: Tatsuma Unit - "Because sleep isn't Kosher."
Fark Corps of Engineers, "Hell's Angles" - "Blowing your F*cking mind"
Copypastian Task Force: "Reposting things that we breaking news 24 hours ago (still 24 hrs AHEAD of CNN)"
Lurking Irregulars Tehran Twitter Division AKA Tube Rats (Motto: "We give a rat's a$$")
The Irregular Internet Militia - "Have blog, will post about it"
Fark Anarchist Brigade: Because orders are for pussies
Special Forces who are simply Anonymous - "Alone, Unarmed, Unafraid"

Uh, had to grab trou and scurry from abandoned thread but here 'tis:

8063rd Modded*Absurdist*Surgical*Hijackers reporting for cleanup.

"No heart too many sizes too smal--wait for it--choppers!"

/hope I make anasleazyologist
//hail to the Chief, and King of all the surgeons
///he needs a Queen, to satisfy his urges


we have two different 32nd units. that could be habit forming
 
2009-06-20 12:03:37 AM
somedude210: I think im part of the 23rd and 1337th. can we have cross training?

\not to be confused with cross dressing
\\use the same uniforms


It's quite simple, you belong to one of them and are acting as a liaison to the other. It works quite well. I started as a 13th Fark Light brigade liaison to the 505th, but got promoted to a full 505th rank.
 
2009-06-20 12:04:02 AM
But no 34th?
 
2009-06-20 12:04:46 AM
Dear Mods,

Can we please place the next thread anywhere other than the politics tab? There seems to be an unusually large number of trolls there.

Sincerely,

Zunkus
 
2009-06-20 12:05:07 AM
anyone up for revolutionary iranian pop music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBkOsJJoe4

/least i think its revolutionary, i should learn the language better.
//for those that want to, by the way, www.easypersian.com is a good resource.
 
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