After having to spend an evening at work pretending to care about an art show reception, I am so glad to be back here among people who understand. Everything else seems trivial in comparison to what the Iranian people are going through.

I'd rather have some good ol' Fark snark and the occasional troll mixed in with honest concern for Iranians than listen to inane chatter by people who are oblivious to events outside of their own petty little lives.

alexthegreyhound: VlagimarPutin: iceberg theory: VlagimarPutin: iceberg theory: post and stuff

I think that the USA has been pushing for the youth of Iran to rise up for a long time, and I have little doubt that the CIA is actively providing support for this uprising. OTOH, I also think that Ahmadinejad probably stole the election, and without that, we wouldn't be seeing the uprising.

Is this the work of the CIA? Based on what I know, they're probably heavily involved, but we can't say it's their baby unless the election *wasn't* rigged.

as with other color revolutions it doesn't really matter who wins. if the western backed candidate loses he claims he won. if he wins he claims he won. the purpose is to create instability. everything is going according to plan.

So you're implying that a stolen election wouldn't lead to a week of massive protests without the influence of the CIA?

That's the kicker. He's doesn't seem to think the election was stolen, but rather, the candidate claims the election was stolen to further the CIA/Jew agenda.

why is everyone always saying im talking about jews. ive said nothing about jews.

Crocodilly_Pontifex: I can has twitgrid link prease?


This is all you need.

Anaxphone: CanisNoir: Man, with all these liters going Total Fark, I hope Drew spent soem time re-enforcing the Foobies servers.

Don;t you know? He set up this whole revolt as a clever viral marketing plan to sell TF subscriptions. He's been planning this for a couple of years. Only the so-called "trolls" know the truth about his ruthless schemes to destabilize the global geopolitical situation for his own profit.

Curses, fooled by that dastard! Is there anything he won't stoop to?!

Iran.....Iran so far awaaaaaaay

Iran.....Iran all night and daaaaaaay.

Mousavi's Twitter name = princeofpersia79

/according to Wyatt Cenac

IMDWalrus: Mousavi's Twitter name = princeofpersia79

/according to Wyatt Cenac

princeofpersia1 through 78 were already taken.

CNN International seems to be on the following schedule:

-Open show with 15 minutes of sold coverage of what's going on there. Emphaszing that YouTube videos can't be verified. Maybe five minutes more if it's time for the correspondent's once-daily allowed report. commercial

-15 minutes of relatively important but non-Iran-related news. North Korea, etc.

-Rest of the hour is filled up with commercials, repeating the stories, and stupid non-news.

-Show is followed by regularly scheduled sports/business/focus on a certain region show

/All in all not great, but miles ahead of what regular CNN is showing

O, hai.
Long time lurker, first time liter (and will likely continue with the lurkering). Been following this here all week. Lots of great work by many many people. They've all been mentioned, so I won't even try.
Strange times bring people together, it seems. Hopefully this will continue into our own (American) political dialog. The past decade has made me very tired.
Keep on keepin' on, my brethren and sistren!
Now, to the beer!
-snotbox17

rppp01a: jennyz: rppp01a: Testing google's alpha version of the farsi translator...

ما در حمایت از مردم ایران

Can you post the link? I must have missed that.

Choose Persian ALPHA (new window)

W00t! And we do, we do!

Anaxphone: CanisNoir: Man, with all these liters going Total Fark, I hope Drew spent soem time re-enforcing the Foobies servers.

Don;t you know? He set up this whole revolt as a clever viral marketing plan to sell TF subscriptions. He's been planning this for a couple of years. Only the so-called "trolls" know the truth about his ruthless schemes to destabilize the global geopolitical situation for his own profit.

DREWS DID 9/11

Wil Wheaton was an extraterrestrial.

CIA, CYA, MIA, MIB, COD, TITS or GTFO.

I'm out all. Check back in about 8 hrs.

Does anybody have a link about retaliation against the Basij? Or a link to a web site identifying them 'in action'?

Thanks

Muslimgauze. Wish of the Flayed.

SharkTrager: Winterstar: SharkTrager: somedude210: Heres an idea, lets make a TF only thread for this. get rid of the trolls

(sorry liters, we'll sponsor you for it though)

Eventually the real trolls will just spring for the $5. This one is worth it for them.

Just ignore the trolls...don't give them any satisfaction.

Oh, I am, but I expect we are going to end up with 2 sets of threads, and the good info will be TF only. Sad too because, obviously, Fark has done well at spreading information, and that is diminished if it goes all TF.

Then the trolls will just go mess up both threads.

I know I'd miss the great information...I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Been reading these threads for days now. Looks like some pretty important stuff might go down in the next few hours. I've got to get some sleep. Keep the threads going!

/Might even go Total in the morning

Off to bed, hoping for good news when I wake up.

In My Fathers Eyes by Chris de Burgh and Hani Hussein (new window)

Another musical interlude from Iran :)

talks on streets: US and Russia made a deal abou iran and that's why Obama's reaction is like this...

KNV

- BBC will broadcast Khameneyi's speech at the Friday's Prayer Live! #iranelection

IRE

Addressing the supposed Lebanese Hezbollah- Iran connection.
*Note: All links will appear in a new window.
First off, forgive me, I'm no expert on any portion of this, but I figured I'd try to see what turns up to end the crying.

My apologies in advance if this becomes TL;DR, I'll try to highlight to help.

Closest proof: This Spiegel Online article references a Voice of America article. I failed to locate a VOA article that specifically mentioned seeing Lebanese Hezbollah in Iran during the protests, so I feel this void. In fact, the only hardcore evidence is that their reporter heard Arab speakers in Iran, I can't tell you if this is a common occurance, but I would believe it isn't a "this is totally hezbollah" proof. Again, not actual proof.

Reasons suggesting Lebanese Hezbollah would assist in Iran:

-This article states that Hezbollah gets most of its $100,000,000+ budget comes from Iran. A reason to help, yes, but proof no.
-The same article states that Hezbollah was originally organized and trained by 1,500 of Iran's Revolutionary Guard. Another reason to help, but not proof.
-Using the article again, Hezbollah is dependent on Iranian arms dealers and also considers the Supreme Leader of Iran as the Ultimate Leader. They have a lot of ties to the current Supreme Leader, who reportedly suggested Hezbollah keep its armed wing instead of going completely to Lebanese politics. Another reason to help, but not proof.
-(same article) The current leader of Lebanese Hezbollah studied in Iraq with clerics who had ties to a pro-Iranian political party. He also studied in Qom with disciples of the Ayatollah Khomeini. His father was a follower of an Iranian Cleric Another reason to help, not proof.
-This article treats Hezbollah as little more than an extension of Iran trying to create an Iranian satellite state. This would be a strong reason for helping, but not evidence.
-This article shows the deep relationship between Iran and Hezbollah. A second article agrees.
-This article provides the statistic that Iran provided around one million to help hezbollah win the previous elections. You don't just hand out 1,000,000 to someone and not get help in return. Reason to help, not proof though.

So yeah, I could continue, but the news is pretty much the same along every article. There are very close connections between Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah.

My overall conclusion is that it if called upon it is highly likely that Lebanese Hezbollah would assist Iran, considering the ties and all the help that they get from Iran. I believe that this is a situation where Iran would be likely to do so. The problem is that no one has specifically been able to identify them as Hezbollah, and it isn't like you can just walk up and ask. I don't think hearing a person speak another language confirms they are there, but given the connection between the two groups, I think there is a good chance it is the Lebanese Hezbollah. Keep in mind though, there really isn't hard proof.

So I hope this stops the complaints/fighting. To the crowd who denies they are there, there isn't any hardcore proof (no one has run down the street yelling "I'm from Lebanon and I'm Hezbollah"). I would like them to know though, that given the close ties between the two countries, there is a good chance they are there assisting.

Sign Petition for U.S. HOUSE RESOLUTION 549: SUPPORT SUPPORT IRANIAN DISSIDENTS http://tinyurl.com/lh7qs7

The dumb flows from that city freely, doesn't it?

jennyz: casey17: BobbyBroad

RT @GreenVote_Iran Confirmed:Tajzadeh,Aminzadeh,Ramezanzadeh are being tortured to confess being US and Musad spies #IranElection #gr88

half a minute ago from Twittelator


Hmmmmm......

Meh, it's not really worth following anyone but the known good-sources. I don't think I've ever heard of that guy.

I dunno about that...I've seen stuff posted by "unknowns" that was verified by the "well-knowns" later. At this point, unless they're a known troll/spammer/pro-Ahlostmydinnerjacket person, I think it might be a good idea to take their tweets into account.

make me some tea: I need to find a place to buy a green armband here in town. :/

Can't you just buy some green ribbon?

Mosavi's Facebook page via G.T to english

Link (new window)

TheGreatGildersleeve:

Yeah well, the 20th century's big experiments with officially atheist governments didn't turn out so hot either, with those human rights issues and such. They still killed you for the slightest "sin", except they called it Trotskyism or revanchism or counter-revolutionary tendencies.

Try not to paint with such a broad brush, you end up slapping yourself in the face.

Like our government? I mean I know the founders were religious and all, but they knew to keep that stuff separate.

Lipo: Been really quiet for a while now. Guess everyone's waiting to see what happens when prayer starts.

I figured as much

rppp01a: Persian hip hop (new window)

sweeet :)

Mousavi ascends to 'rockstar' status of the Iranian Reformist movement (new window, spanish).

Well, not exactly rockstar, but definitely in that status.

I'm still afraid that the iranian regime will get outside thugs to attack protestors. Of course, that would be akin to suicide. I can only speculate on the issue.

Stuff I've dug up on Twitter:

Iran Protest Chronicles (new window, haven't read it yet, will read it).

RT MOUSAVI asks supporters NOT to attend Fri prayers #iranelection Huff Post blog says initially a hoax but now deemed good idea by Mousavi (confirmation?).

RT http://bit.ly/cHSqb rallies in rasht north of iran. #iranelection #gr88

RT from Iran: Dear Americans, Iranians were with you after Sep 11, thank you for being with them now http://bit.ly/Vl5Te #iranelection

out of curiosity, to all those saying that those people showing an earnest interest in these threads are wasting their time, that their earnest hopes that maybe in some small way they help the people of Iran manage to assert some sort of change are foolish, I have a question. Do you react the same way to people who say "support the troops?" Or who gathered after Katrina to spread information, gather money, and help people contact family members that ended up scattered to the winds? Or helped with similar endeavors after the Indonesian Tsunami? Or just regular people helping out at a soup kitchen or even just sitting around a table talking about a cause or an event that hold particular import or meaning to them?

You think us naive, to be so hopeful, clearly. Is that really so...offensive to you? Is it so impossible to leave idly by? Are you no longer able at all to be idealistic about anything?

I for one refuse to be so jaded as to believe that wanting and trying and hoping to have even the smallest impact is ever a waste, nor is the eager and rapt thirst for information and knowledge.

If we have done nothing else with our efforts this week we have elevated the general awareness of the fact that Iranians are not all mindless zealots, terrorists, and nuke-mad nutjobs, dirty looking and wild-eyed. People are starting to see that Iranians are essentially and unmistakably human, with different languages and histories and mannerisms, but with the same general capacity for outrage, atrocity, and, most impressively, iron solidarity and nobility in the face of what to most of them must seem like a one-way suicidal journey in the pursuit of the slimmest chance of freedom.

And does out being satisfied with having achieved, at the very least, such a small thing really gall you to such lengths that you have to put strenuous effort into debasing the very sensation of victory, and the ultimate hope of a larger, more tangible one?

Photo of man in military-style uniform and riot gear, smashing the windshield of a car for no apparent reason:

Link (new window)

Poster's caption: "picture proof of who the hooligans are?!! THEY destroy property and blame the protesters for it....
see bottom left corner!"

Your Vacuous Texbook: Addressing the supposed Lebanese Hezbollah- Iran connection.
*Note: All links will appear in a new window.
First off, forgive me, I'm no expert on any portion of this, but I figured I'd try to see what turns up to end the crying.

My apologies in advance if this becomes TL;DR, I'll try to highlight to help.

Closest proof: This Spiegel Online article references a Voice of America article. I failed to locate a VOA article that specifically mentioned seeing Lebanese Hezbollah in Iran during the protests, so I feel this void. In fact, the only hardcore evidence is that their reporter heard Arab speakers in Iran, I can't tell you if this is a common occurance, but I would believe it isn't a "this is totally hezbollah" proof. Again, not actual proof.

Reasons suggesting Lebanese Hezbollah would assist in Iran:

-This article states that Hezbollah gets most of its $100,000,000+ budget comes from Iran. A reason to help, yes, but proof no.
-The same article states that Hezbollah was originally organized and trained by 1,500 of Iran's Revolutionary Guard. Another reason to help, but not proof.
-Using the article again, Hezbollah is dependent on Iranian arms dealers and also considers the Supreme Leader of Iran as the Ultimate Leader. They have a lot of ties to the current Supreme Leader, who reportedly suggested Hezbollah keep its armed wing instead of going completely to Lebanese politics. Another reason to help, but not proof.
-(same article) The current leader of Lebanese Hezbollah studied in Iraq with clerics who had ties to a pro-Iranian political party. He also studied in Qom with disciples of the Ayatollah Khomeini. His father was a follower of an Iranian Cleric Another reason to help, not proof.
-This article treats Hezbollah as little more than an extension of Iran trying to create an Iranian satellite state. This would be a strong reason for helping, but not evidence.
-This article shows the deep relationship between Iran and Hezbollah. A second article agrees.
-This article provides the statistic that Iran provided around one million to help hezbollah win the previous elections. You don't just hand out 1,000,000 to someone and not get help in return. Reason to help, not proof though.

So yeah, I could continue, but the news is pretty much the same along every article. There are very close connections between Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah.

My overall conclusion is that it if called upon it is highly likely that Lebanese Hezbollah would assist Iran, considering the ties and all the help that they get from Iran. I believe that this is a situation where Iran would be likely to do so. The problem is that no one has specifically been able to identify them as Hezbollah, and it isn't like you can just walk up and ask. I don't think hearing a person speak another language confirms they are there, but given the connection between the two groups, I think there is a good chance it is the Lebanese Hezbollah. Keep in mind though, there really isn't hard proof.

So I hope this stops the complaints/fighting. To the crowd who denies they are there, there isn't any hardcore proof (no one has run down the street yelling "I'm from Lebanon and I'm Hezbollah"). I would like them to know though, that given the close ties between the two countries, there is a good chance they are there assisting.

Circumstantial evidence is good enough in court, it's good enough here.

100proof: Iran.....Iran all night and daaaaaaay.

You realize you're about the hundredth person to do that right? Normally that would result in Fark smack around, but in this case, it still brings a chuckle ;)

I've been leaving on my things
So in the morning when the morning bird sings
There's still dinner Ahmendinnerjacket
Till the dinner bell rings

next rally saturday 4 pm Enghelab (Revolution) Sq. to Azadi (Freedom) Sq. #iranelection

So attending prayer and most of the rallies friday are called off.
However, rallies resume Saturday.

@MariaNYC please e-mail me at afree­ir­a­nian­l­ia­m­g­com & again thanks for your help

CFI in response to "Could I DM you? I'd like to ask you something. Thanks!"

Does anyone have a link to this video but with subtitles? I think earlier today people were asked to translate it and add subtitles to the video.

Link (new window)

You are all sheep.

It's obvious that the CIA, in coordination with Drew, who is a member of the Illuminati (which is a branch of the Stonecutters a secret society created by Mr. Burns and an army of reverse vampires), contacted the gray aliens who then informed The Jews (not to be confused with all Jewish people; actually an Israeli progressive funk band) that Michael Clarke Duncan rigged the vote to make sure Ahmacopyouidiot won. Also, Khameini is actually an animatronic puppet created by Spiro Agnew. Zombie Reagan is at the center of all of this, authorizing DARPA and HAARP's use of Chemtrails to force everyone into color revolution group-think.

All as Emperor Palpatine had forseen.
WAKE UP PEOPLE

Epoch_Zero: I may be making a bit light of this situation.. but..

Who else wants to see a giant beach ball being tossed around above the people at the forced prayer tomorrow?

I'm sad to say (and yes, amused) that after reading that I just have the image of folk bopping the beachball around off their heads as they raise and lower their heads off of prayer mats.

/this may or may not be an accurate representation of the Muslim prayer ritual

Tatsuma: A man leaves for a mere two hours (and ends up spending 1:45 of that explaining to his neighbours what's happening) and when he comes back, he finds out that he's got a third testicle and he's named Maurice? Well I'll be

/so anything interesting since I left?

Confirmed that Mousavi and Kourabi have told people not to show up to the prayers.

That's the main thing.

m2313: next rally saturday 4 pm Enghelab (Revolution) Sq. to Azadi (Freedom) Sq. #iranelection

So attending prayer and most of the rallies friday are called off.
However, rallies resume Saturday.

@MariaNYC please e-mail me at afreeiranianliamgcom & again thanks for your help

CFI in response to "Could I DM you? I'd like to ask you something. Thanks!"

Top tweet is from knv

Captain_Impavid: Is that really so...offensive to you?

When someone brought up some fun "zOMG the media is doing this to make you support the wargarrbl" I point out that it's perfectly possible to travel to Iran and many people have done so. My point being, why would someone work to make a people sound bad when anyone can go and find out for themselves. There was not one response to that.

As for your point, it's either the bitter, the defeatist or of course the troll who are so snide.

Anarchangel:
WAKE UP PEOPLE

I read that in the PepsiMAX spokesguy's voice.

Whoa! Thanks penthesilea!

Anarchangel: You are all sheep.

It's obvious that the CIA, in coordination with Drew, who is a member of the Illuminati (which is a branch of the Stonecutters a secret society created by Mr. Burns and an army of reverse vampires), contacted the gray aliens who then informed The Jews (not to be confused with all Jewish people; actually an Israeli progressive funk band) that Michael Clarke Duncan rigged the vote to make sure Ahmacopyouidiot won. Also, Khameini is actually an animatronic puppet created by Spiro Agnew. Zombie Reagan is at the center of all of this, authorizing DARPA and HAARP's use of Chemtrails to force everyone into color revolution group-think.

All as Emperor Palpatine had forseen.
WAKE UP PEOPLE

I for one, welcome our new Sith-worshipping secret society overlords.
/cue Scanners-style headsplosions throughout thread