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Anti-David Letterman Protest In New York Draws Approximately Three Dozen People (new window)

bullwrinkle: I think Letterman explained it very well in his apology that it's all about perception. I understand the joke was about Bristol, but I don't think people are disingenuous for believing the joke was about Willow, after all she was the one at the game.

It depends on the person, I guess. For example, the folks at the "Fire David Letterman" protest are unwilling to accept even the possibility that DL made a mistake... then one talks about how it happened while the Palin's were at a basketball game. It's like when a spelling Nazi criticizes another poster for spelling a word incorrectly but does the same thing in their own post. I tend to stop caring what hypocrites think, regardless of where they fall on the ideological spectrum.

Jackpot777: Clarify: are you saying Bristol Palin is NOT Sarah Palin's daughter?

What?

Your false equivalency is weak today.

MINE? LMFAO! Ok, at least now I know you are trolling - that's some funny shiat.

Jackpot777: But not assume he was talking about someone that had already entered the public mind as the knocked-up daughter of Sarah Palin?

Without naming the specific person intended for the butt of the joke, yes you have to assume that the person was actually in attendance of the ball-game. Like I said, he could have been talking about Bristol, and it is entirely possible that he goofed up. It is not that tough to understand.

I wish our friends on the Right had given as much scrutiny and skepticism to the Bush administration's WMD claims as they are to this joke.

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Well to be fair, conservatives tend to have actual jobs, unlike liberals who are professional protesters.


How many busloads would they have trucked in for protesting a conservative who said something similar about a popular liberal's kid?

crab66: I'm sorry I just don't buy the manufactured outrage and the push to make it seem like it was directed at a 14 year old. I have talked to various people who don't care about politics in the least and it's pretty obvious who Letterman was talking about.

This is just a distraction from Limbaugh, Hannity et al.

I kind of agree, because I am not really outraged here. Letterman made a stupid joke, Palin defended her family. Letterman apologized, Palin accepted. For me, this is the end of the controversy.

The dumbasses that are still protesting and are still attempting to manufacture outrage over this issue need to be egged, IMO.

The Why Not Guy: WMD claims

WMD claims!!!

Phil Herup: chipspastic: Anti-David Letterman Protest In New York Draws Approximately Three Dozen People

Well to be fair, conservatives tend to have actual jobs, unlike liberals who are professional protesters.

How many busloads would they have trucked in for protesting a conservative who said something similar about a popular liberal's kid?

Really? I don't remember any busloads of liberals protesting the nasty things that were said about Nancy Pelosi's documentarian daughter when her last movie came out.

But then again, you're so full of shiat your eyes are brown.

HeadLever: Without naming the specific person intended for the butt of the joke, yes you have to assume that the person was actually in attendance of the ball-game. Like I said, he could have been talking about Bristol, and it is entirely possible that he goofed up. It is not that tough to understand.

You are assuming that he knew which kid went to the ball game.

unlike liberals who are professional protesters.

All the Liberals I know spend their days farming hair and making bongs.

The Why Not Guy: I wish our friends on the Right had given as much scrutiny and skepticism to the Bush administration's WMD claims as they are to this joke.

Something like one million people dead for absolutely nothing.

Yeah we know you cons are outraged about something. You are perpetually pissed off so no surprise there.

The problem is your too stupid to know what you should be pissed off about.

I think that I had better clarify my position in my response to Jackpot's post.

When I mean "have to assume" in the text you bolded, I am talking in context of the joke, not in the context of what really happend. We really don't know who Letterman was talking about with certainty because no specific names were issued. Anything else is speculation.

Sorry if I was not clear.

documentarian daughter

Pelosi's daughter is a Documentarian?

I thought she was Methodist.

HeadLever: A couple of your sentences were hard to read, but I think that I understand what you are gettin at.

Shryke: Jackpot777: Clarify: are you saying Bristol Palin is NOT Sarah Palin's daughter?

What?

Your false equivalency is weak today.

MINE? LMFAO! Ok, at least now I know you are trolling - that's some funny shiat.
Aw don't give in now, I was having so much fun.

(Time to head off to work. Have fun, all.)

Davey Croquette: documentarian daughter

Pelosi's daughter is a Documentarian?

I thought she was Methodist.

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Phil Herup: chipspastic: Anti-David Letterman Protest In New York Draws Approximately Three Dozen People



Well to be fair, conservatives tend to have actual jobs, unlike liberals who are professional protesters.


How many busloads would they have trucked in for protesting a conservative who said something similar about a popular liberal's kid?

Lame Phil. Real lame.

You know i came to your defense the other day but I'm not gonna any longer unless you shape up.

DaSwankOne: You are assuming that he knew which kid went to the ball game.

Yeah, I was not clear. Sorry. See my post above and see if that clears things up.

HeadLever: A couple of your sentences were hard to read...[snip]



And that really is my last post for today.

Something like one million people dead for absolutely nothing.

Not for nothing. For oil. Which, in case you haven't noticed, is the most important resource America imports.

You're basically driving to work on a tank full of dead Iraqi's.

Oh well, Better to have a few million dead Iraqi's than be forced to use public transportation, right?

Shryke: Jackpot777: Clarify: are you saying Bristol Palin is NOT Sarah Palin's daughter?

What?

Your false equivalency is weak today.

MINE? LMFAO! Ok, at least now I know you are trolling - that's some funny shiat.

Shryke, you're pretty dumb. This was made clear in the last thread I saw you in. Now, I'm not mad at you. But the things you're saying are stupid and you don't make any sense. Please leave this thread or just read it.

It should be fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that David Letterman was talking about the whore daughter (who is, by the way, 18 and therefore fair game, according to the rules lawyers on the Right). The joke doesn't really make sense targeted at Willow, who's not famous for being knocked up. Bristol IS famous for being knocked up. You see? The snag of course is that Willow, and not Bristol, was at the game, but Occam's razor dictates one of two possibilities:
1) Letterman thought it was Bristol at the game. Honest mistake, since she's the daughter that's most often in the news, and when people think "Sarah Palin's Daughter" she comes to mind.
2) Letterman knew Willow was at the game but was speaking about Bristol anyways, because it's funnier that way.

In any case, he shouldn't have apologized, but he did, which was unusually magnanimous of him. If cons want to keep going after him, that's fine. They're annihilating any credibility they had left by doing so.

Davey Croquette: You're basically driving to work on a tank full of dead Iraqi's.

Bush had the worst job creation level of any prez since Hoover.

He was trying his best to keep us from driving to work.

Somacandra: Wow. And yet its the liberals paying to support all the welfare redstates. Who would have known professional protesting would be so lucrative?

Sorry, but the premise of using that graph as a way to bash red states as welfare states has been debunked many times.

Unless you can provide the backing info that seperates out federally mandated items or specific federal obligations, that table really does not tell you too much.

/in the 10 or so times that I have asked for it, no one has been able to provide the backing information

No conservatives watch Letterman anyway.

Signed,

The Gaseous Dancing Wiener

Bush had the worst job creation level of any prez since Hoover.

The President doesn't create jobs. Well, except for when he creates new federal executive positions when he creates unconstitutional executive departments like the Dept. of Education.

So Letterman's joke was, "During the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez." And while I thought Letterman was referring to the older daughter who is eighteen, the righties thought of the fourteen year old. Doesn't that make them the pedophiles as they chose the underage girl?

Sygerrik: Shryke, you're pretty dumb. This was made clear in the last thread I saw you in. Now, I'm not mad at you. But the things you're saying are stupid and you don't make any sense. Please leave this thread or just read it.

It should be fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that David Letterman was talking about the whore daughter (who is, by the way, 18 and therefore fair game, according to the rules lawyers on the Right). The joke doesn't really make sense targeted at Willow, who's not famous for being knocked up. Bristol IS famous for being knocked up. You see? The snag of course is that Willow, and not Bristol, was at the game, but Occam's razor dictates one of two possibilities:
1) Letterman thought it was Bristol at the game. Honest mistake, since she's the daughter that's most often in the news, and when people think "Sarah Palin's Daughter" she comes to mind.
2) Letterman knew Willow was at the game but was speaking about Bristol anyways, because it's funnier that way.

In any case, he shouldn't have apologized, but he did, which was unusually magnanimous of him. If cons want to keep going after him, that's fine. They're annihilating any credibility they had left by doing so.

Blah blah, same crap from you. David apologized because the joke was easily and obviously perceived to be about Willow. The guilty party has admitted guilt. Your frantic lawyering is meaningless now.

The good thing about this whole deal is this: Letterman will probably reign in his Palin jokes now, and altogether DROP the farking kid jokes. Yay!

Davey Croquette: The President doesn't create jobs.

Well if your talking about republicans everybody already knows they don't create jobs.

Befuddled: Doesn't that make them the pedophiles as they chose the underage girl?

It makes you retarded for not understanding the basic fact that Willow was at the game in question. Which would be crucial for the joke to work.

Well if your talking about republicans everybody already knows they don't create jobs.

Looking to the President to create jobs is like looking to your sister for a Prom date.

You might get some...but you won't like what it costs you.

I see the moonbats are out in force today, and the Obamamods.

You guys just get back from a Global Warming rally?

Its amazing to see all the worshippers of Queen Palin claim that their interpretation of someone else's joke is the only one that is accurate and correct. Even after losing two straight elections, badly, they still think their opinions are the only ones that matter.

Davey Croquette: Well if your talking about republicans everybody already knows they don't create jobs.

Looking to the President to create jobs is like looking to your sister for a Prom date.

You might get some...but you won't like what it costs you.

Actually the president has a big effect on the economy and job creation.

http://economistsview.typepad.com
/economistsview/2008/04/the-presidents.html

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On average, the real incomes of middle- class families have grown twice as fast under Democrats as they have under Republicans, while the real incomes of working poor families have grown six times as fast under Democrats as they have under Republicans.

These substantial partisan differences persist even after allowing for differences in economic circumstances and historical trends beyond the control of individual presidents.

Shryke: It makes you retarded for not understanding the basic fact that Willow was at the game in question.

Do you have an iPhone app that gives you real-time data on the location of Sarah Palin and all her family?

Personally I couldn't care less about Palin and all her family so keeping track of their whereabouts is not on my daily to-do list.

As far as outrages du-jour go, this is one of the lamest.

3_Butt_Cheeks: I see the moonbats are out in force today, and the Obamamods.

You guys just get back from a Global Warming rally?

Its funny when known Bush-worshippers make ironic posts.

I have really decided that the modern GOP, talk radio and Fox News are just ways for the oligarchy to identify the idiots. I will know this is a fact if they run Palin in 2012. It only makes sense. If you honestly believe that Letterman was talking about 14 year old Willow instead of making a joke about the daughter who was already "knocked up" then you are a retard. If you think that Barack Obama is a socialist you are a retard. If you think that the government has never bailed out an industry before this year you are an idiot. Seriously. The new conservative movement is really just a way to spot dumbasses.

"During the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."

I am offended by this use of the passive voice

Davey Croquette: Not for nothing. For oil. Which, in case you haven't noticed, is the most important resource America imports.

You're basically driving to work on a tank full of dead Iraqi's.

Oh well, Better to have a few million dead Iraqi's than be forced to use public transportation, right?

Just the other day YOU told me that we got most of our oil from Canada and South America. Seriously. Conservative = Retard.

morrach so long as he wasn't telling me the only way to lose weight was through puking or excessive enemas.

You're saying i've been lied to?

Just the other day YOU told me that we got most of our oil from Canada and South America.

Not me, friend. You've got a faulty memory. I think this is the first time I've been on FARK all week.

I, for one, am sick of all this apology crap.

Say what you mean, mean what you say.

Accept consequences of what happens after you say it.

This forcing non-apologetic people to apologize is nonsense.

One day we will invent a virus that kills only the stupid.

Actually the president has a big effect on the economy and job creation.

Actually, he doesn't. Job creation, over time, is a function of supply, demand, technology and regulation. Of those four the President plays a part in one.

Also, a good analysis of job creation in America necessarily includes an accounting of the jobs LOST due to gov't regulation.


When you expect your President to control your economy you tread on shaky ground capitalism-wise.

Somacandra: As it is, you'll have to settle for the bare facts. Some states tend to take in far more federal money and attention than they contribute, yet the political discourse from those areas is dominated by hatred for the government and its abilities.

Yep, and the numbers represented in your table may or may not have anything to do with that. For example, is this money that the state goverments recive from the Federal Goverment directly, or does it also include money spent by the federal goverment for their own obligations within said state? I hope that you understand that these are two different. If not, let me know and I will clue you in.

If you have a problem with that, you should raise a specific objection with that point instead of vague generalities that refute nothing. Or you could instead point out Phil's blatant strawman yourself instead of just selectively wharrgarbling.

I am pointing our that your logical fallicy in using the table to make the argument that the red states are welfare states. This argument may be true, but it is not apparent from the table that you posted. If you cannot support the basis of the table in the context of my argument against it, you thereby cannot support your assumption that red states are welfare states based off of said table.

/And I was responding to you, not Phil.

Skleenar:
wasn't impregnated
at the game.

You just lost.

DaSwankOne: Just the other day YOU told me that we got most of our oil from Canada and South America. Seriously. Conservative = Retard.

Most? I have no idea. But we import more of our oil from Alberta, Canada than from any other foreign source. Canada and Mexico are the top two oil exporters to the United States, followed by Saudi Arabia (though Venezuela occasionally surges into third place).

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