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(Seattle Times)   'For Better or For Worse' comic strip coming to an end. Drew disappointed that he will no longer receive cease-and-desist letters for photoshopping it   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 259
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2003-02-19 10:28:57 PM
Good!
 
2003-02-19 10:29:20 PM
Get Fuzzy is another good one. I have to read it online because my local paper doesn't carry it.

Keenspot has a few good online comics.

Other good online ones:
Sluggy Freelance rocks.
Something Positive is tremendously bitter and sarcastic at times, and a great strip.
 
2003-02-19 10:29:28 PM
Blondie?

I'd hit it.

Cathy?

.....with a stick.
 
2003-02-19 10:29:53 PM
Get Fuzzy is one of the most fricking surreal comics ever sometimes...

'That was a haiku! A creepy little cat haiku!'
 
2003-02-19 10:31:17 PM
"ahhh, Rex Morgan, you've got the cure for the daily blues..."
 
2003-02-19 10:31:35 PM
Get Fuzzy is pretty good, Vivianne. Kinda like back when Garfield, y'know, didn't suck. Boondocks, Fox Trot, and Real Life Adventures are also worth reading.
 
2003-02-19 10:32:47 PM
www.ozyandmillie.org <-- My favourite comic. Dunno if it beats Calvin and Hobbes... but it's my favourite.
 
2003-02-19 10:34:25 PM
Beetle Bailey, Sally Forth, Tina's Groove, Hagar the Horrible, Marmaduke, Family Circus, Geech, Dennis the Menace...there, I think that's all.

And I always love it when someone can laugh at Dilbert along with me...has anyone seen the animated version on Comedy Central? It's pretty funny, but it lacks the 3-panel wit the strip has.
 
2003-02-19 10:34:51 PM
I like some stuff from "Sinfest" and "Bob, the Angry Flower"
 
2003-02-19 10:35:07 PM
Oh yeah, Blondie too...I'll probably think of even more
 
2003-02-19 10:35:30 PM
Impaler:

Shows how bigotry can make a person into a violent farking moron.
 
2003-02-19 10:35:34 PM
Remember when Beetle Bailey's general took those sexual arrassment courses because people complained about the sexiness of his secretary? Why the feck hasn't anyone made Blondie take empowerment courses? After 174 years of that strip she's gotten a job .... as a cook, still pads her bra, and stands in a manner that would get any human female arrested for lewd behavior. She IS one of the few cartoon characters I'd like to see naked though. Her and Mary Worth.
 
2003-02-19 10:36:55 PM
02-19-03 10:28:13 PM Impaler
Don't be too hard Lordjupiter. She was getting death threats for having a gay caroon character.

Death threats.

for a cartoon character.



Most celebrities get death threats for some reason or another. Barry Bonds and Hank Aaron got them all the time when chasing home run records. Should they have stopped playing? I believe Gary Larson even got them. I wonder how much hate mail Gary Trudeau gets?


Getting death threats over a CARTOON CHARACTER is all the more reason to not give in. The more we shelter, the less we discuss. The less we discuss, the more we fear. The more we fear, the more we harm.

No, I'm not a gay activist. Nor gay. Just a human rights junkie that hates to see self-censorship at the point of a bayonet.


Sally Forth and Ballard Street are the two worst comic strips ever, btw.
 
2003-02-19 10:37:34 PM
I am heterosexual, male, and 20. I'm gonna miss FBOW. First Far Side, then Calvin, and now this (in four years). Anybody here read Zits?
 
2003-02-19 10:38:15 PM
Bass555

Are you the creator of Hi & Lois?
 
2003-02-19 10:39:09 PM
man, this sucks. i've read this religiously for about 15 years. it's about the only thing on our comics page that i enjoy anymore. i'm with you on about half of those, Jared.. never heard of tina's grove or geech, and I like hagar, but the others can all take a leap. Here's something about sally forth, though. did you ever notice that everyone is always smiling, but no one ever says or does anything funny?
 
2003-02-19 10:39:18 PM
Growing up, I often thought that if I was given just one wish, I'd use it to enter the Family Circus comic strip to viciously rape and murder that entire family.
 
2003-02-19 10:40:16 PM
The only good comic strips for anyone over 10 years old were the Far Side and Bloom County. Maybe Calvin and Hobbes. Family Circus just down right pisses me off.
 
2003-02-19 10:40:22 PM
Friend of Bill Wick: "Ahhhh...Ziggy, will you ever win?
 
2003-02-19 10:40:51 PM
For better or for worse was terrible. There was no comedy in the comic strip. At times Calvin and Hobbes was serious, but Bill Watterson could pull it off. I miss C&H so much...it truly was the best comic strip, ever.

im digging mr gnu, though:

Mr. Gnu
 
2003-02-19 10:41:13 PM
Do you see this? this is a snagglepuss. it was drawn by hic heisler. it is worth something. this? this is an arm, drawn by nobody. it is worth nothing!
 
2003-02-19 10:41:30 PM
I haven't looked at the comics page since the big three (Larson/Breathed/Watterson) quit. But as I remember, FBOFW didn't make me want to puke too much. It's better than 90% of the crap on that page.
 
2003-02-19 10:42:25 PM
Oh yeah, and I guess Dilbert.
 
2003-02-19 10:43:28 PM
When I was younger, this strip was ok. Now that I'm older (and the strip has seen the characters age alot), it's not funny. Comics are supposed to be funny, humors. Comics, get it. "The funny pages", get it? Making some tangential anecdote about typical banal family crap is not particularly funny.

RIP The Far Side
RIP Calvinball
RIP Dondi
 
2003-02-19 10:43:35 PM
Not breaking news, as others have said. But honestly, I enjoy FBoFW. Sure, it might look through rose-colored glasses sometimes, but it's well-drawn and well-thought. And, as many have said, it's better than a lot of other things on the comics page (these days or otherwise).
Family Circus is so completely and eye-rollingly lame that it's often pretty hilarious, in that sick inverse kind of way.
Fox Trot is nerdtastic and wonderful for it.
How about Boondocks? The quasi-manga drawing style is great, but the whiny "keepin' the black man down" schtick is getting tired.
Calvin and Hobbes = best syndicated comic ever.

YeahthatsallIshouldstoptalkingabouteveryothercomicinexistence.
 
2003-02-19 10:43:37 PM
I advise anyone who's feeling the winter blues to go and buy every single Calvin and Hobbes book you can find. Hours upon hours of the best therapy there is.

Now if only all the Bloom County books were to be reprinted.


Is Robotman still going? That strip never got nearly enough credit. After the failed cartoon, that is. Or did I dream that?
 
2003-02-19 10:45:26 PM
the "only comic worth reading" list begins and ends with

www.jerkcity.com
 
2003-02-19 10:46:27 PM
Evil-Carrot Get Fuzzy? I've never been able to understand that one. And, really, I tried.

For now, SinFest.net and Schlock Mercenary are what I live for. (Note: Schlock has fairly lame art, but is very witty.)
 
2003-02-19 10:46:31 PM
'For Better or For Worse' comic strip coming to an end: good riddance to bad rubbish.
And good call on Bob The Angry Flower, Bass555, although I am finding it to be a little too political these days, what with the U.S. and Iraq and all.
 
2003-02-19 10:46:47 PM
Good riddance to the socialist propaganda.
 
2003-02-19 10:47:02 PM
Dennis the Menace also should burn. That cartoon had one high point... twice, the Seattle paper accidently switched the captions of DtM and Far Side, so Dennis, sitting at the dinner table, commented "Yuck. Hamsters again!" The next day, he told his mother "I see your shrunken head opn a shelf in an archeologists office somewhere." Beautiful.
 
2003-02-19 10:47:02 PM
Robotman de-evolved into "Monty..and..something or ...other"

to the best of my knowledge


Alas....
 
2003-02-19 10:47:45 PM
Sinfest
Schlock Mercenary

- friggin' quotes!
 
2003-02-19 10:48:16 PM
I'm white, but Boondocks is hilarious. Foxtrot and Dilbert are good too. Non-Sequitor is sometimes good, and that's about it. Get Fuzzy is getting good, though.

There is another I can't think of where the dog and the guy live together. The guy is a complete loser, and the dog is smarter than him. The name slips my mind.
 
2003-02-19 10:48:17 PM
Calvin and Hobbes was the best ever, Peanuts was number two. FoxTrot is great, best going today. I like Zits, Jump Start, FBFW, Baby Blues is ok, Get Fuzzy is prety good, um, I gotta say I like Garfield, Sherman's Lagoon, Doonesbury, oh yeah, the Boondocks is funny about half the time, when it's not in Huey-as-mouthpiece-for-McGruder's-pent-up-rage-at-the-man mode, Mother Goose and Grim is great. Few others.

I hate Dilbert, and get this, it was never funny! The TV cartoon was good, but the strip is boring as hell. Let's see, hate Cathy, ah, well, I can't say more because I really don't commit the ones I don't read to memory.

My two cents, and all that...
 
2003-02-19 10:49:04 PM


Bill the Cat, Best.Comicstrip.Character.Ever.
80's decadence 'personified' in a feline.
 
2003-02-19 10:49:10 PM
I go Pogo.
 
2003-02-19 10:50:07 PM
Almost forgot: The "comics" SUCKS anymore. Used to be a time I'd read all but the "serious" strips (rex morgan, md and that crap). Now, apart from Foxtrot, Dilbert and Peanuts reruns (and these are getting to be spotty), there's nothing there. It's all turned to "family humor" (young parents and their HILARIOUS foibles with their kids HO HO it's funny to see someone use babytalk or a baby do something 'funny'). Please bring back teh funnay.
 
2003-02-19 10:52:56 PM
I haven't always liked For Better or For Worse since when I was regularly reading the comics, it was a bit beyond me, but I've always respected her as an artist--both for drawing and creating, in this case. True, she doesn't have the same level of fondness in my memories that Bloom County, Calvin and Hobbes, and The Far Side do, but she's been drawing good strips for longer than I've been alive. And she's one of the only comic strips who decided to age their characters, which made them a bit more likable and human, at least to me. I've gotta give her credit for that. I won't terribly miss her strip since I'm not a regular reader, but it's one of those ones that's ALWAYS been there on the comics page, and it would be like Garfield ending. I don't read it, but it's ALWAYS been there and it would be really strange.
 
2003-02-19 10:53:36 PM
Lordjupiter: Earlier you said how she avoided the issue of the gay thing by providing two sets of copy. While I agree that she shouldn't have felt she needed to do that, I think that in this instance its forgivable given that the strip isn't about being politically correct. I remember back when Lawrence told Michael he was gay....that was pretty powerful stuff for a family oriented comic book....way the hell before Will and Grace. Perhaps I am too emotionally involved...and drunk.
 
2003-02-19 10:53:55 PM
Two Calvin and Hobbes notes:

1) I read an interview with Watterson once where he said he'd considered ending C&H with a strip in which Calvin is walking along with Hobbes talking about something, stops, looks at Hobbes, instantly just sees the stuffed tiger, and walks away. As if, in that moment, he grows up and beyond Hobbes. Wouldn't that have been the sadest farking thing in the history of entertainment? I mean, I would cry like a little girl.

2) Could Zits try HARDER to be a grown up Calivn and Hobbes? The mom and dad even sort of look like the C&H mom and dad ten years later. And when Jeremy makes goofy faces or something, it's like when Calvin was trying to choke down nasty food or something. Nowhere near as funny, but certainly what the dude's going for.

I'm going to go cry and read C&H books now.
 
2003-02-19 10:54:09 PM
"[Dilbert] The TV cartoon was good, but the strip is boring as hell"

See, right there you've basically drawn a large sign that says "I'M STUPID" and put flashy lights on it, then started wearing it. I think the strip's running out of steam (there's really only so much 'office humor amongst engineers' to go around). However, to call it 'never funny' and call the tv show 'good' is complete heresy.
 
2003-02-19 10:56:13 PM
She has talked to cartoonists who have taken over long-running strips, and they told her they couldn't wait for the original artists to die so they could be left alone to work in peace.

Ha ha ha. Take that, Bil Keane!!!
 
2003-02-19 10:56:42 PM
Dilbert used to be a lot funnier than it is now.
 
2003-02-19 10:58:48 PM
Dilbert is definitely running out of steam, but you gotta give it its props (wurd) for being so influential in the office culture, particularly the IT sector. Dilbert grew with the internet.

Also Al Gore created Dilbert.
 
2003-02-19 10:59:30 PM
I don't remember anything about a robotman cartoon (i assume you mean like on tv). the last time i read it was a couple of years ago, and there was an alien named mr. pi that seemed to kind of dominate things. the funniest strip of that i remember was from about 98 or so when monty tripped out on the poppyseeds in his bagel and was listening to the white album while watching teletubbies.

Educated_Comedian--accidentally. riight.
 
2003-02-19 11:00:05 PM
Not my favourite strip, however, not bad either. As I grew up so did the comic. I've managed to read it on and off for the majority of my life. Too bad
 
2003-02-19 11:02:15 PM
I'll miss FBOFW. It had plot, it was real, that's sometimes all you need...

That said, gotta love Foxtrot and Outland... Bloom County too, obviously...

BUT I AM SHOCKED... NO ZIPPY THE PINHEAD?

you guys are nuts! Friggin' Bill Griffith is a genius.
 
2003-02-19 11:03:44 PM
Why do any comics even try anymore? Nothing can compete with the glory that is Filler Bunny.
 
2003-02-19 11:04:16 PM
Sad.

One of the best graphic strips out there.
 
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