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(Some Guy)   House GOP Health Care Plan: We don't know how much it costs, or how we'll pay for it, or whether it will actually cover anyone, but OMFG TELEPROMPTER LATINA TEABAG BORK BORK BORK   ( rollcall.com) divider line
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2009-06-17 06:52:06 PM  
Same as Obamas plan then eh?
 
2009-06-17 06:57:47 PM  
any circles ?
 
2009-06-17 07:01:05 PM  

WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?


No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.
 
2009-06-17 07:03:03 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.


So how much will Obama's Plan cost?
How many people currently uninsured will it cover?
How will we pay for it?

I'm sure that you can answer all these questions in the affirmative, right?
 
2009-06-17 07:04:46 PM  
No worries. I'm sure at the end of the day the GOP will be quite happy with Obama's health care plan. After all, single-payer is not even on the table for consideration.
 
2009-06-17 07:13:33 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.

So how much will Obama's Plan cost?
How many people currently uninsured will it cover?
How will we pay for it?

I'm sure that you can answer all these questions in the affirmative, right?


Yes, we can answer questions to an unformed plan. Questions you are demanding the answer to, and then attacking even before you get the answer. It could end up costing every single American one cent per year and the GOP would still rant on about the cost and socialism.
 
2009-06-17 07:15:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.


....well?
 
2009-06-17 07:15:56 PM  

GAT_00: The_Six_Fingered_Man: cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.

So how much will Obama's Plan cost?
How many people currently uninsured will it cover?
How will we pay for it?

I'm sure that you can answer all these questions in the affirmative, right?

Yes, we can answer questions to an unformed plan. Questions you are demanding the answer to, and then attacking even before you get the answer. It could end up costing every single American one cent per year and the GOP would still rant on about the cost and socialism.


What in the world does that have to do with what I posted in response to cameron?

If you can answer them, answer them. Currently, we don't know how much it'll cost, how many people it will cover, or how we will pay for it. If you know these things, you are obviously in on the planning and strategy of the plan and you should share with the rest of the class so that we can discuss it.
 
2009-06-17 07:16:24 PM  
People who don't know the details of Obama's plan shouldn't be biatching about his upcoming "infomercial" on ABC about it.

I'm talking to you Matt Drudge, you self-loathing closet case.
 
2009-06-17 07:21:41 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: People who don't know the details of Obama's plan shouldn't be biatching about his upcoming "infomercial" on ABC about it.


$5 says we'll have people on Fark during the showing who are complaining about the coverage AND about not knowing the details at the exact same time.
 
2009-06-17 07:27:07 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: What in the world does that have to do with what I posted in response to cameron?


Dude. Do your own research. barackobama.com is a good start. Good luck.

/lazy.
 
2009-06-17 07:29:00 PM  
Same as Obamas plan then eh?

Oh what the hell. They have already busted the bank. Let them replicate the original problem with this country as China slowly pulls it's shrinking dick out of our national snatch. Well done TEAM GEORGE OBAMA! Well Done Team Geitner/Pelosi!
 
2009-06-17 07:32:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The_Six_Fingered_Man: What in the world does that have to do with what I posted in response to cameron?

Dude. Do your own research. barackobama.com is a good start. Good luck.

/lazy.


You made the assertion, you back it up with facts.

I'll do research when I drop trou and shiat in a thread and someone calls me on it.
 
2009-06-17 07:36:49 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I'll do research when I drop trou and shiat in a thread and someone calls me on it.


So, now?
 
2009-06-17 07:37:48 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I'm sure that you can answer all these questions in the affirmative, right?


Yes.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So how much will Obama's Plan cost?


Yes.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: How many people currently uninsured will it cover?


Yes.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: How will we pay for it?


Yes.
 
2009-06-17 07:37:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The_Six_Fingered_Man: I'll do research when I drop trou and shiat in a thread and someone calls me on it.

So, now?


Sure, if you can point to where I made an assertion, ass.
 
2009-06-17 07:38:47 PM  
Okay, I admit I laughed at that. The LATINA TEABAG was quite classic.
 
2009-06-17 07:47:33 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Sure, if you can point to where I made an assertion, ass.


Uh, how about the part where you assumed that nobody knows how much Obama's healthcare plan is going to cost, how many people it would cover, etc. That's an assertion, isnt't it?
 
2009-06-17 07:51:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Sure, if you can point to where I made an assertion, ass.

Uh, how about the part where you assumed that nobody knows how much Obama's healthcare plan is going to cost, how many people it would cover, etc. That's an assertion, isnt't it?


somewhere between assertion ans assumption, but since most assertions on Fark are based on deliberate misrepresentation this is actually a HUGE step up.
 
2009-06-17 07:52:49 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Sure, if you can point to where I made an assertion, ass.

Uh, how about the part where you assumed that nobody knows how much Obama's healthcare plan is going to cost, how many people it would cover, etc. That's an assertion, isnt't it?


No, if I assumed it, then it is an assumption, not an assertion. If I had said "I know that no one on Earth knows about the plan," then I have made an assertion. However, the difference in my assumption and your assertion is that I can prove it quite quickly by doing a Thomas search to show that there has been no new legislation introduced.

BTW, I said that the only people who would know would obviously be the ones working on it, so if you are one of those people, please share your keen insight into the matter. Otherwise, you are spewing nonsense trying to one-up someone.

So either make with the facts, or shut the fark up.
 
2009-06-17 07:57:32 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So either make with the facts, or shut the fark up.


Well, he's got kind of a point. Obama's plan at least is heavily referenced-- it demonstrates the data sources its using, and the rationale. It's in broad strokes, definitely, but they're there.

This may help you:

Link (new window)

The biggest problem with the Republican plan is the effect on small businesses. I was surprised to see that in there.
 
2009-06-17 08:18:41 PM  
In addition to the chart from the other day showing just how much of our DEBT problem is leftover from the Bush administration, another good chart to shut the Righties the fark up is the following:

correspondents.theatlantic.com

This shows just how rampantly the Obama administration is taking over the U.S. economy and seizing businesses left and right.

I imagine a similar chart will be made regarding Health Care costs soon.
 
2009-06-17 08:51:05 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: In addition to the chart from the other day showing just how much of our DEBT problem is leftover from the Bush administration, another good chart to shut the Righties the fark up is the following:

This shows just how rampantly the Obama administration is taking over the U.S. economy and seizing businesses left and right.

I imagine a similar chart will be made regarding Health Care costs soon.


I bet I can show a very similar chart to how many people Obama has murdered as compared to the population. Also, one is too many.

\not ripping Obama, just your point
 
2009-06-17 08:53:55 PM  
I haven't heard any reports of Obama murdering people, but I've heard a parade of screamers blasting about Obama taking over free enterprise.

That's the point the chart is meant to refute.

Feel free to post some reports of Obama the Murderer and then your chart.
 
2009-06-17 08:59:07 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I haven't heard any reports of Obama murdering people, but I've heard a parade of screamers blasting about Obama taking over free enterprise.

That's the point the chart is meant to refute.

Feel free to post some reports of Obama the Murderer and then your chart.


Here is a great example of a missed point.
 
2009-06-17 09:12:33 PM  
The Republicans are trying as hard as they can to make it perfectly obvious they are being disingenuous and purely political. Let's see how far the Democrats bend over backwards to hear one word of praise from them.
 
2009-06-17 09:35:19 PM  
cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.

....well?


We're still waiting.......... ...... ??????
 
2009-06-17 11:01:33 PM  

WTFDYW: cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.

....well?

We're still waiting.......... ...... ??????


OK, well, let's see: In '07, healthcare in the US cost $2,700,000,000,000. That's around $7000 per person.
The same year, Canada spent a bit over $5000 per person and covered everyone.
The UK spent about $2700 and covered everyone.

So, how about we spend, say, $6500 per person, save several hundred billion dollars, STILL outspend every other country in the world, and have a system where everyone is covered?
 
2009-06-17 11:39:13 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So how much will Obama's Plan cost?
How many people currently uninsured will it cover?
How will we pay for it?


1) At least $1 trillion
2) At least 1/3 of the currently uninsured
3) "President Obama's plan to expand health coverage to the uninsured is likely to dig the nation deeper into debt unless policymakers adopt politically painful controls on spending, such as sharp reductions in payments to doctors, hospitals and other providers, congressional budget analysts said yesterday."

These are preliminary estimates based on the recent CBO report. Before you start furiously jerking off, keep in mind that this is more info than we have for the Republican plan. Because these are preliminary results and aren't based on the final bill, these specific issues are still in flux.
 
2009-06-18 01:17:20 AM  
does THIS plan have numbers in it?
 
2009-06-18 01:40:02 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: People who don't know the details of Obama's plan shouldn't be biatching about his upcoming "infomercial" on ABC about it.


When is this on? I haven't heard about it, but am very interested in actually seeing it.
 
2009-06-18 01:46:28 AM  

Mentat: 1) At least $1 trillion over the next decade
2) At least 1/3 of the currently uninsured
3) "President Obama's plan to expand health coverage to the uninsured is likely to dig the nation deeper into debt unless policymakers adopt politically painful controls on spending, such as sharp reductions in payments to doctors, hospitals and other providers, congressional budget analysts said yesterday."


That's an important point to note; it's not $1 trillion annually or anything. And this is the current state of the Kennedy legislation, not necessarily Obama's final goal.
 
2009-06-18 01:48:44 AM  

WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?


More like the GOP's budget plan from earlier this year.
davidkirkpatrick.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-06-18 01:48:58 AM  
thinkingmeat.net
 
2009-06-18 01:49:16 AM  
4 pages?!? For the entire country?


I wrote a 10 page health care plan outline for the Indian Health Services and that was just for a class.
 
2009-06-18 01:49:56 AM  

RevMercutio: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

More like the GOP's budget plan from earlier this year.


You win...
 
2009-06-18 01:52:56 AM  
I GIS'd "Latina Teabag."

Nsfw but not as much as you'd think.
 
2009-06-18 01:53:03 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: 4 pages?!? For the entire country?


I wrote a 10 page health care plan outline for the Indian Health Services and that was just for a class.


Tell me about it. I had to write a longer paper for my pharmacology class last week.
 
2009-06-18 01:55:35 AM  

Shadowknight: Tell me about it. I had to write a longer paper for my pharmacology class last week.


If a 4 page outline is all they can come up with....they shouldn't complain about Obama's plan, no matter how 'bad' it is or they think it is.
 
2009-06-18 01:56:35 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: If a 4 page outline is all they can come up with....they shouldn't complain about Obama's plan, no matter how 'bad' it is or they think it is.


we all know they will

but but but the CBO!
 
2009-06-18 01:57:11 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Shadowknight: Tell me about it. I had to write a longer paper for my pharmacology class last week.

If a 4 page outline is all they can come up with....they shouldn't complain about Obama's plan, no matter how 'bad' it is or they think it is.


B-b-b-b-but they used BOTH SIDES of all 4 pages!!!2!
 
2009-06-18 01:58:55 AM  

Sum Dum Gai: That's an important point to note; it's not $1 trillion annually or anything. And this is the current state of the Kennedy legislation, not necessarily Obama's final goal.


Right. I should have made that more clear. In addition, Obama's argument is that we're going to end up paying at least that much anyway, same as for the infrastructure spending in the stimulus bill.
 
2009-06-18 01:58:55 AM  
C'mon, all we need to do is have tax cuts.

It will magically raise revenues AND cure all known diseases. You won't NEED health care when tax cuts attract the attention of Supply-Side Jesus who will cure the poor for free!*

* In a totally NON-Socialist manner!
 
2009-06-18 01:58:57 AM  
What we all know their outline looks like:

I. Tax Cuts
II. for
III. the
IV. rich
 
2009-06-18 02:03:06 AM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man [TotalFark] Quote 2009-06-17 07:03:03 PM
cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: Same as Obamas plan then eh?

No, I'm pretty sure we know all of those things about Obama's plan.


Precisely.....

So how much will Obama's Plan cost?


1.5 Trillion minimum
How many people currently uninsured will it cover?

According to the CBO...38 million will NOT be covered so I guess that leaves on 12 million of the 50 million uninsured who will be covered under Obama care.....what a great way to spend 1.5 Trillion....MINIMUM

How will we pay for it?

Well tax the rich of course......never mind the fact that you could take every dime from the so-called " rich " and not pay for even 1/100th of the colossal debt Obama and his Socialist cronies are racking up...

I'm sure that you can answer all these questions in the affirmative, right?

IF you're asking an Obama supporter of course the answer is no......the mere fact that they believed what crap he was spewing and then voted for him is more than enough evidence of their ignorance and cluelessness.

They're to busy sucking his cock and eating his crap sandwiches to be bothered with pesky facts and figures and...well.....math......
 
2009-06-18 02:03:17 AM  

dahmers love zombie: So, how about we spend, say, $6500 per person, save several hundred billion dollars, STILL outspend every other country in the world, and have a system where everyone is covered?


Cause that would be GODLESS SOCIALISM.

If everyone had health care coverage, what reason would the poor have to pray when they fall ill?
 
2009-06-18 02:06:59 AM  
lulz... the Republicans' plan doesn't even get them on the road to success, it gets them on the road to recovery.

/again, lulz
 
2009-06-18 02:07:41 AM  
Lumi Quote 2009-06-18 02:03:17 AM
dahmers love zombie: So, how about we spend, say, $6500 per person, save several hundred billion dollars, STILL outspend every other country in the world, and have a system where everyone is covered?

Cause that would be GODLESS SOCIALISM.



" Cause ? "

Shall I presume that not only do Obama supporters FAIL at math......but also FAIL at grammar?

Answer: yes

" cause " LMAO!
 
2009-06-18 02:09:14 AM  
The democrats strategy of "be better than the other guy" wouldn't be so bad if that "other guy" wasn't the GOP right now.
 
2009-06-18 02:09:23 AM  

libbynomore2: IF you're asking an Obama supporter of course the answer is no......the mere fact that they believed what crap he was spewing and then voted for him is more than enough evidence of their ignorance and cluelessness.

They're to busy sucking his cock and eating his crap sandwiches to be bothered with pesky facts and figures and...well.....math......


Oh, ok, where is the GOP math and figures for their plan? Four pages worth of info might be a lot in your world, when your book reports were approximately two pages, but in most fields people like information with big projects.

I've seen actual numbers and figures out of Obama's plan. I have yet to see anything but contempt, anger, and four pages of talking points come from the GOP

/yes, I know I got hooked by the troll
 
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