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2003-02-19 04:09:26 PM  
"They have been left behind furiously trying to reinvent themselves for a younger audience who couldn't care less "

Are you talking about U2 or rock and roll in general?
 
2003-02-19 04:13:03 PM  
I cannot believe that people would complain that Bono is trying to do good in the world.
 
2003-02-19 04:29:18 PM  
While I initially thought this was some kind of sick joke, and then that it was akin to Jethro tull beating Metallica for the first Metal grammy, I would have to say that, with that field Bono has to be the walk away favorite.
 
2003-02-19 04:35:23 PM  
Cry me a river, kids. Fact is, if Bono's such an unworthy candidate, and 'anybody can talk about Africa,' then why don't you all quit sobbing on the Fark Comments Thingee, and do it yourself?
 
2003-02-19 04:39:51 PM  
Stop being so pissy that a musician is getting nominated. Bob Marley was nominated before, and so was Bob Geldof. Bono and and the Bobs actually tried to help someone somewhere, so why mock?
 
2003-02-19 04:40:20 PM  
aside from the whole good-natured political activist thing, i kinda agree with the headline.
with all the good music u2 has come up with, why in the everlovingfark do radios stations always play that awful "beautiful day"?
 
2003-02-19 04:43:43 PM  
02-19-03 02:51:36 PM AstralCow
You know, Bono isn't preaching at you people. He's just giving his money and his time to causes he believes in. Which is a hell of a lot more than you asshats who sit at your comps all day are doing. Yeah, he's famous because of his music, and he's trying to use it to do some good. Bashing him for it is just sad.


Amen to that! Good for him for trying to use his celebrity to make the world a better place.
 
2003-02-19 04:43:49 PM  
JihadJoe "Bono and the Bobs" is a great name for a band.
 
2003-02-19 04:50:46 PM  
Zooropa would be a great CD if it was just "Stay" and 11 tracks of the Edge passing gas.
 
2003-02-19 04:50:59 PM  
"Nobel Prize" short list. Heh. Such a media invention, considering there's no official lBoobiesed anywhere.

And if Bono gets nominated based on "giving his money and his time to causes he believes in," then so should Ted Turner, who has given far more time and money to many causes than Bono has. Bono just gets his b*lls licked because he's Irish, and not Southern.
 
2003-02-19 04:53:24 PM  
Errr... what the hell did I get filtered for? I could've sworn I typed in "list."
 
2003-02-19 05:02:51 PM  
DarKrow
Bono needs to get his ass kicked for what he did to Negativland over this album:

You mean the Negativland album of STOLEN unreleased tracks? Oh, and Bono had nothing to do with it. Island records went after Negativland.
 
2003-02-19 05:14:27 PM  
ATYCLB... sucks?... i think not... but i guess if POD and puddle of mudd get you goin' than maybe you wouldnt understand...
 
2003-02-19 05:14:29 PM  
JerseyTim
Zooropa would be a great CD if it was just "Stay" and 11 tracks of the Edge passing gas.

Hell, I'd buy it!

Actually, "Stay" is one of my favorite songs, so I agree with you.  But I'm also one of the few that think Zooropa was a good album.
 
2003-02-19 05:18:34 PM  
Bono is a great writer if you actually bother to check out the lyrics.

U2 still rocks and rocks hard if you got to see the Elevation tour (buy/rent the Elevation DVD if you doubt).

Bono does not live in a castle:
his house
aerial view (note the size of the cars in comparison)

Bono used his clout to pull together a ton of musicians young people identify with (Britney, J.Lo, Gwen Stefani, Destiny's Child, Fred Durst, Wyclef Jean, Ja Rule, Alicia Keys, Nelly, Nas, P. Diddy, and more) to do a video for Marvin Gaye's What's Going On to raise AIDS awareness and to fund AIDS relief in Africa.

Zooropa is an acquired taste, but is definitely not "a stinker."

And finally, U2 is not about churning out crack-like songs that everyone is supposed to automatically like. (Though fortunately for me, their repetoire gives me the fix I need.)
 
2003-02-19 05:19:31 PM  
Popsicle
And if Bono gets nominated based on "giving his money and his time to causes he believes in," then so should Ted Turner, who has given far more time and money to many causes than Bono has. Bono just gets his b*lls licked because he's Irish, and not Southern.

I don't see Ted parking himself in the offices of US reps and senators of both parties trying his damndest to get them to talk and agree on something. I don't see him lobbying Congress continually. I don't see Ted being named ambassador of Jubilee 2000. I don't see Ted going to Africa in an effort to convince America that we really do need to drop the debt to allow some people a fighting chance. I don't see Ted touring the country, speaking at colleges in an effort to raise awareness of the poverty and AIDS in Africa. And I don't see Ted trying to get two warring factions in a country to agree to a treaty.

Sure....Ted has done a lot of good, but not on the scope that Bono has. But Bono's been doing this for 20 years and he's put his heart and soul into it. He was in Africa in 85(?) with his wife and he saw for himself what was going on. Since then, he has dedicated himself to doing SOMETHING to help over there.

Point is, Bono's not just donation money. He's donating money, blood, sweat and tears to the cause. He lobbying Wasthington and other countries. He speaks to groups all the time trying to raise awareness.

And if you don't like Bono, so what? The fact is, he really believes in these causes and puts his money and effort where his mouth is. That's a lot more than most of us can say.

BTW, Zooropa WAS a good album. "Lemon", "Stay", "Dirty Day", "The First Time", "The Wanderer"...all great songs. Jeez, folks.
 
2003-02-19 05:23:48 PM  
I thought they gave this award to Russell Crowe in that one movie with the girl from Labyrinth. Doesn't that mean that they cannot give it out to anyone else until Russell Crowe loses the steel cage match?
 
2003-02-19 05:28:37 PM  
I dig U2, always have, always will. Bono can be a poser, sure, I agree. They make swell music, yep, can't convince me otherwise. I'm sorry, though, MacPhistoGDS, but "The First Time" was a load of horse crapola.
 
2003-02-19 05:32:25 PM  
Where's Sheryl Crow's nomination?

Her world view? "Don't have enemies."

How insightful.

/sarcasm!
 
2003-02-19 05:42:11 PM  
Clue up, please and thank you! Bono may or may not be the best candidate for this, but the level (depth actually) at which most posters are operating is a sad thing indeed. Why is it such a sin for someone to try to make the most of their cachet as a "celebrity" of whatever type to try to do some good in the world (Bono as opposed to say, I don't know... Charlton Heston? Riiiiiigggghhhhht). We use the platform we're permitted to make our points -- in the case of most here, Fark is the widest "sphere of influence" any of us might have; given a broader forum, how many wouldn't use it?

I suppose you think a more deserving candidate might be who? Donald Rumsfeld?

/sets down flamethrower, washes hands...
 
2003-02-19 05:42:19 PM  
Then again, Kissinger is Nobel peace prize winner... And he is a big part of the reason why the US is so hated nowaday
 
2003-02-19 05:46:53 PM  
yay! the starving Iraqi children will be so happy!
 
2003-02-19 05:54:13 PM  
"Bono just gets his b*lls licked because he's Irish, and not Southern."

Popsicle
Location: Columbia, South Carolina


bitter, bitter, bitter...
 
2003-02-19 05:57:56 PM  
 
2003-02-19 06:01:27 PM  
Ahhh, the "real" Bitterman has surfaced. Excellent bio. Aw, crap, now people will look at it. Sorry...
 
2003-02-19 06:01:55 PM  
Bitterman -:)
 
2003-02-19 06:06:44 PM  
Re Carter: Best ex-president the US has ever had...

Re Bono: Most full-time lobbyists get paid for their work. Bono gives. But really, his time has proven to be far more valuable than his money.

Re Farkers: It's amazing how many post opinions about things for which they have no clue. Sheryl Crow? Ted Turner? Get a clue, folks. Bono is not being nominated for his "world view" or his ability to donate cash, nor does what he do amount to standing in front of a camera and saying we should all support something and hope to "cash in on his celebrity". He works, and probably more than most of us. Certainly more than I do... of course, if I already had enough money to live the rest of my life on, I suppose I could make a full-time job out doing what Bono does. But let's face it, I wouldn't. I just wouldn't work that hard if I didn't have to...

Re U2: Eh, not my favorite band, but has a few songs I really like. I'd love to find an album that had all and only the songs I like on it, but I still haven't found what I'm looking for...
 
2003-02-19 06:06:56 PM  
Social relevance surrenders.
 
2003-02-19 06:10:51 PM  
MacPhistoGDS: You mean the Negativland album of STOLEN unreleased tracks? Oh, and Bono had nothing to do with it. Island records went after Negativland.

A) Bono and the rest of U2 had everything to do with it. They were informed by their lawyers as to what was going on throughout the entire ordeal and gave their conscent to Island to continue pursuing litigation. Maybe they didn't attack Negativland themselves, but they certainly looked on as their pitbull attacked.

B) What stolen and unreleased tracks would you be talking about? There was an acepella version of "Still Haven't Found..." and a completely redone instrumental version of the same song with Kasey Kasem talking over it. There was no stolen or unreleased U2 tracks on that album.
 
2003-02-19 06:16:18 PM  
Bono leads the greatest band in the world. Their last studio album "All that you can't leave behind" started off as just another badace album that proved that they were not done. Then, after 9/11, it became a unofficial tribute to what happened with songs like "Walk On," "Peace on Earth," "Kite," and "New York." U2 is the epitome of what is known as greatness."
 
2003-02-19 06:16:59 PM  
MacPhistoGDS: I don't see Ted parking himself in the offices of US reps and senators of both parties trying his damndest to get them to talk and agree on something. I don't see him lobbying Congress continually. I don't see Ted being named ambassador of Jubilee 2000. I don't see Ted going to Africa in an effort to convince America that we really do need to drop the debt to allow some people a fighting chance. I don't see Ted touring the country, speaking at colleges in an effort to raise awareness of the poverty and AIDS in Africa. And I don't see Ted trying to get two warring factions in a country to agree to a treaty.

I don't see Bono giving One Billion Dollars to the United Nations so that these problems can be solved by viable international bodies.

If Bono gets nominated then Ted Turner definately deserves too as well.
 
2003-02-19 06:30:34 PM  
*to :)
 
2003-02-19 06:37:50 PM  
Mister_Badass: LOL, you consider the United Nations a viable international body?!

Flame on!
 
2003-02-19 06:53:17 PM  
Compared to U2, yes. ;)
 
2003-02-19 07:05:41 PM  
I don't see Bono giving One Billion Dollars to the United Nations so that these problems can be solved by viable international bodies.

After the stock market went to the bears, I don't see Ted giving one billion dollars either. And since when is the U.N. viable?
 
2003-02-19 07:32:57 PM  
Henry Rollins was unavailable for comment....
 
NVM
2003-02-19 08:00:16 PM  
Bono's a loudmouthed idiot and a hypocrite to boot. His politics remind me of Madonna's "materialism is evil" schtick, even though her kids have their very own clothing designers. Typical sleb living in their own little world.

http://www.bullymag.com/6.6.02/u2-060802.asp
 
2003-02-19 08:10:36 PM  
Instead of saying "Bono did this", "Ted Turner did that" and "Someone else did something else" as if it were a competition, we should all appreciate the fact that together they're helping a lot of people.
Sniff!

/wipes tear
 
2003-02-19 08:21:04 PM  
I like U2 while tolerating the politics. I really was proud of them at halftime of the last Super Bowl- right up until the end where he did the ghey "heart" symbol on his chest with his finger. Fifteen years almost ruined by ten seconds.
 
2003-02-19 08:24:12 PM  
I'm tired of seeing this dumb mick fly around the world in his faggy leather pants sprinkling magic rockstar pixiedust over the worlds problems. leave it or love it.

/troll
 
2003-02-19 08:43:05 PM  
If you don't understand them, then you never will.

That's all I say. To explain to the ignorant ones would be a waste of time, my time.

U2 is great, 'nuff said. :)

Bye.
 
2003-02-19 09:08:01 PM  
Touche Mister_Badass, Touche. You've won this round....
 
2003-02-19 09:13:05 PM  
I think Quoteman is the clear-cut winner in this thread, go to bed kids.
 
2003-02-19 09:16:50 PM  
Awesome, someone who actually deserves it.
 
2003-02-19 09:26:35 PM  
Just out of curiousity, how many farkers here have actually met Bono, or know him? Have you ever talked to him?

I thought not.

Mr Mephisto
 
2003-02-19 09:32:14 PM  
ok, pop sucked. granted, i think its been well established that pop sucked. but atleast all that you cant leave behind is better than alot of the crap released in the last year and a half (for the record, the song walk on reminds me of earlier u2, thank god).

as far bono not sticking to a cause, the way i see it is, not one or 100 people can stop the problems he chooses to shead light to. but i think thats exactly what he does! he sheads light on subjects and charities that alot of people either dont know or dont know much about. and thats commendable.

u2, i'll say, is one of my all time favorite bands, and they've done a hell of alot more than the bullshiat bands around now, musicly, or socially.

/end rant
 
2003-02-19 10:00:18 PM  
Anyone claiming that Jimmy Carter winning the prize took all meaning out of it needs to realize that the minute Kissinger got it, it was an eternal sham.
 
2003-02-19 10:02:20 PM  
Mephisto-

Point taken, but do you necessarily have to meet the guy to know that you like or don't like him? He is quite vocal in his sociopolitical opinions.

Anyway, I say give it to him. Nobel Schmobel.
 
2003-02-19 10:29:33 PM  
I love that Negativland cover photo. Just remember that those guys released that single at a time when U2 was perhaps one of the biggest bands in the world and were about to release a new album that was supposed to have a new, completly different sound. Now if you were a fan and walked into a record shop and saw that cover, would you say "Hey! the new negativland single is here!" or would you say " Hey! A new U2 single called 'negativland'!" I'm sure a bunch of fans bought and played it and thought "What the hell were they smoking in Berlin to come up with this shiat?" It was a cheeky move and didn't deserve the smackdown they got, but on its face it still appears deceptive to me. There's a whole book about it out there somewhere. Did they actually give credit to U2 for the music for "I Still Havent Found What I'm Looking For" they used as background music? Or did they claim it was just a sample? I can't remember.

Also, I cant believe no one likes the song "Babyface" from zooropa. A song all about watching pornography and no one even notices. A really underrated album (except for numb which still sucks).
 
2003-02-19 10:31:51 PM  
Those of you who whine that entertainers shouldn't have political opinions can just turn off the TV or ignore them. The rest of us will let them have their 1st Amendment.

Those of you that make fun of U2's music either don't get it, don't agree with them re-inventing themselves every 2 albums, or just don't like their music.

Those of you who biatch that Bono "only talks" obviously pay no attention to what he has actually done. He does spend his own money and he does spend his own time doing things to better the world.

All that being said, I still don't know if he deserves the peace prize. But out of those mentioned in the article, he's probably the best choice.
 
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