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2009-06-12 06:08:25 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: But the abstinence-only crowd doesn't then go on to educate kids on how to not get pregnant if they DO choose to have sex.

What parents teach their children is not the same as what the Federally Funded Public School teaches them; there's a subtlety I think you and many others are missing.

Abstinence Only, at least in my opinion, only addresses what Federally Funded Public Schools teach kids, and personally I'd prefer *that* message be "Don't fark when you're young, it's not going to help you in the long run because you could get pregnant if you do."

The rubbers and specialty KY Jelly, I'll discuss with them myself thank you very much. At least that's how I see this whole issue.
 
2009-06-12 06:09:13 PM  
Rather than just hearing about this, can't the right wingers simply take action and get their own satisfaction ? I didn't make the joke, or laugh at it, or even hear it. So there's really nothing I can do about Letterman.

So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

You'll have your satisfaction and the rest of us will be happy with the silence when you suddenly don't want to talk about it anymore.
 
2009-06-12 06:10:34 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: And, yes, of all birth control methods, abstinence is the most effective.

Abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer.


Well, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.

And you can't drown if you don't swim.

And you probably won't get lung cancer if you don't smoke.

So, is your point just to be an ass to a teenage girl? How nice of you.
 
2009-06-12 06:10:50 PM  
CanisNoir: Gamer Grrrl: But the abstinence-only crowd doesn't then go on to educate kids on how to not get pregnant if they DO choose to have sex.

What parents teach their children is not the same as what the Federally Funded Public School teaches them; there's a subtlety I think you and many others are missing.

Abstinence Only, at least in my opinion, only addresses what Federally Funded Public Schools teach kids, and personally I'd prefer *that* message be "Don't fark when you're young, it's not going to help you in the long run because you could get pregnant if you do."

The rubbers and specialty KY Jelly, I'll discuss with them myself thank you very much. At least that's how I see this whole issue.


If all parents would explain birth control and condoms to their children there wouldn't be any arguments as to how sex ed should be handled in schools in the first place.
 
2009-06-12 06:10:56 PM  
DemonEater: Nabb1: So, are you saying that teens should not be told that abstinence is the most effective method of avoiding pregnancy? Enough with the analogies, please. Just answer the question directly, please.

Yes, of course, because it's true.
But it should be followed in the next breath with "but because most of you are going to do it ANYWAY, here's how contraceptives work and how not to catch STDs".

Abstinence is fine, but abstinence-only is asinine.


I remember being taught about Miranda rights in school, probably before they taught us anything about sex, IIRC.

They didn't encourage us to get arrested... Being a criminal was a bad thing... but they told us not to say anything if we were, to consult with an attorney, etc. These were our rights, we were told, and if we gave them up, we couldn't get them back.

Is the right griping about this curriculum as well? Isn't teaching people what to do if they are arrested the same as condoning the crimes for which they were arrested?
 
2009-06-12 06:11:01 PM  
CanisNoir: Gamer Grrrl: But the abstinence-only crowd doesn't then go on to educate kids on how to not get pregnant if they DO choose to have sex.

What parents teach their children is not the same as what the Federally Funded Public School teaches them; there's a subtlety I think you and many others are missing.

Abstinence Only, at least in my opinion, only addresses what Federally Funded Public Schools teach kids, and personally I'd prefer *that* message be "Don't fark when you're young, it's not going to help you in the long run because you could get pregnant if you do."

The rubbers and specialty KY Jelly, I'll discuss with them myself thank you very much. At least that's how I see this whole issue.


You have it exactly wrong. The opposite, in fact, of what sex education should be.

Public schools teach children facts. Mom and Dad teach children ethics and morals. Kids should know how their bodies work and what a condom will do for them when they decide to have sex. This should be taught by schools because they are facts. Parents should teach them when the right time to have sex is because this involves morals and ethics.
 
2009-06-12 06:11:13 PM  
CanisNoir: Karma Curmudgeon: I'm not really sure WTF you're talking about. But humans have been programmed to have sex after puberty kicks in. So, this is has been going on for like 6,000 years.

Maybe the point was too subtle, though you managed to skewer yourself on it quite nicely.

We've been programed to fear thunder and lighting for just as long, but I'm not a big one for running and screaming for the nearest shelter every time I see a flash of light in the sky.

Just because you *want* to have sex and it's a very wonderful thing to partake of, doesn't mean you should have sex. Controlling our instincts, along with and thumb are what separates us from the primates, I mean we might as well tell our kids to start flinging feces while we're at it.



So not having sex is like staying outside a thunderstorm. Got it. Not sure how that slipped by me.
 
2009-06-12 06:11:16 PM  
Mordant: Rather than just hearing about this, can't the right wingers simply take action and get their own satisfaction ? I didn't make the joke, or laugh at it, or even hear it. So there's really nothing I can do about Letterman.

So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

You'll have your satisfaction and the rest of us will be happy with the silence when you suddenly don't want to talk about it anymore.


i210.photobucket.com
 
2009-06-12 06:11:18 PM  
Confabulat: Just say, "Hey, it's been fun, but I'm not going to sit here and defend what I've been doing for 30 years to a bunch of ninny right-wingers who are suddenly all offended. So I'm out."

And then all the news shows will do retrospectives on his career, and he will be lauded and go out on top.

And Palin and her dimwitted fan club will look like the biggest bunch of dipshiats we've ever seen. (Well they already do, I guess).


No. The people who are dreaming of his retirement to prove a petty point are bigger dipshiats.

Letterman has a few years left in him. He should go out with an appropriate victory lap a la Carson.
 
2009-06-12 06:11:24 PM  
Confabulat: glassa: Why do we automatically have to bash a girl when she's trying to do something good?

If she's promoting abstinence-only education, she is an idiot, and a danger to society.

She should be thoroughly mocked for this. Run out of town, if necessary. We don't need more of those ignorant idiots infecting our culture. The damn creeps keep spawning.


Well, why don't you just shoot her while you're at it?
 
2009-06-12 06:12:19 PM  
glassa: Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: And, yes, of all birth control methods, abstinence is the most effective.

Abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer.

Well, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.

And you can't drown if you don't swim.

And you probably won't get lung cancer if you don't smoke.

So, is your point just to be an ass to a teenage girl? How nice of you.


Also, "Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." Except you didn't seem to subscribe to that idea.
 
2009-06-12 06:13:06 PM  
glassa: Well, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.

Uh, yes, you can.

And you can't drown if you don't swim.

Yes, you can.

Not much for accuracy, are you?
 
2009-06-12 06:13:15 PM  
glassa:

And you can't drown if you don't swim.


Demonstrably untrue.
 
2009-06-12 06:13:22 PM  
Karma Curmudgeon: So not having sex is like staying outside a thunderstorm. Got it. Not sure how that slipped by me.

It was lubricated.

glassa: Well, why don't you just shoot her while you're at it?

We leave the shootings to the whacko conservatives (because we detest guns--dur!)
 
2009-06-12 06:13:57 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: glassa: Why can't people be respectful adults even if she's a public figure?

You're asking that question on Fark? Are you serious? We come here because this is the place with the best, greatest, most disrespectful snark hate on the internets.


FIFY

Don't tell me about conservative hate when you have plenty of it in your own back yard. Wanna talk hypocracy? Look in the mirror & see it for yourself.
 
2009-06-12 06:14:11 PM  
glassa: Confabulat: glassa: Why do we automatically have to bash a girl when she's trying to do something good?

If she's promoting abstinence-only education, she is an idiot, and a danger to society.

She should be thoroughly mocked for this. Run out of town, if necessary. We don't need more of those ignorant idiots infecting our culture. The damn creeps keep spawning.

Well, why don't you just shoot her while you're at it?


Because if recent history is any indication, that's more of a right-wing extremist thing to do. Left-wing extremists tend to throw blood and set empty buildings on fire.
 
2009-06-12 06:14:43 PM  
The Why Not Guy: glassa: Well, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.

Uh, yes, you can.

And you can't drown if you don't swim.

Yes, you can.

Not much for accuracy, are you?


+1


this thread has been funny
 
2009-06-12 06:14:52 PM  
CanisNoir: Abstinence Only, at least in my opinion, only addresses what Federally Funded Public Schools teach kids, and personally I'd prefer *that* message be "Don't fark when you're young, it's not going to help you in the long run because you could get pregnant if you do."

Yeah, but not everybody is a responsible parent. SOMEBODY has to give the kids the actual facts, and parents often want to push it off on the schools because it involves squicky discussions with their snowflakes, or they don't do it early enough, or they believe in abstinence-only themselves when their kids don't, or any number of other reasons.

And then you've got the choice of having the state school systems step in and teach the reality, or seeing teen pregnancy go way up and have half the under-18 population end up on antibiotics or valtrex.

Remember, folks, as shiatty as the schools and government can be, parents are usually just as bad!
 
2009-06-12 06:14:57 PM  
Mordant: So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

Or we could wait for him to drive down a Texas road and put two in his noggin from a Book Depository like a good Socialist Lefty am I right?
 
2009-06-12 06:15:10 PM  
glassa: So, is your point just to be an ass to a teenage girl? How nice of you.

If you read the thread, you won't find me bashing Bristol Palin at all. Her mom, oh yes. But her? No. However, she is a public figure, by choice, which means she's open to bashing. Just like Amy Whinehouse, Britney Spears, and Miley Cyrus. Public figures who do stupid shiat get bashed, and usually in public (forums).
 
2009-06-12 06:15:14 PM  
glassa: Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: And, yes, of all birth control methods, abstinence is the most effective.

Abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer.

Well, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex. But if you do have sex, and nobody taught you about how to prevent that sort of thing from happening, it's not their fault, it's yours.

And you can't drown if you don't swim. Of course, you could still drown in the bathtub...

And you probably won't get lung cancer if you don't smoke. Unless you live in Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, New York, New Jersey, San Francisco, Miami, or anywhere besides Buttfark, Egypt. Then the air will do it for you.


You still haven't responded to anything I said to you, coward.
 
2009-06-12 06:16:32 PM  
glassa: Gamer Grrrl: glassa: Why can't people be respectful adults even if she's a public figure?

You're asking that question on Fark? Are you serious? We come here because this is the place with the best, greatest, most disrespectful snark hate on the internets.

FIFY

Don't tell me about conservative hate when you have plenty of it in your own back yard. Wanna talk hypocracy? Look in the mirror & see it for yourself.


I'm not the one biatching and moaning about hate or disrespect on Fark, of all places. That would be you. Don't like it? Go over to fluffypuppies.com or something.
 
2009-06-12 06:16:57 PM  
Anarchangel: If all parents would explain birth control and condoms to their children there wouldn't be any arguments as to how sex ed should be handled in schools in the first place.

Ahh the nectar of Tyrants; that sweet syrupy "We're enforcing this on everyone because of the few who don't do it. Think of the children".

/There's a reason it's called "Nanny State"
 
2009-06-12 06:17:11 PM  
CanisNoir: Mordant: So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

Or we could wait for him to drive down a Texas road and put two in his noggin from a Book Depository like a good Socialist Lefty am I right?


Bad example. Everyone knows Oswald was a patsy.
 
2009-06-12 06:17:30 PM  
PascalsGhost: glassa: Gamer Grrrl: glassa: I'm not defending Sarah Palin herself. Mock her all you want. Leave her daughters out of it, just like you'd leave Sasha & Malia out of Obama jokes. Why is that so hard to understand?

But I'm sure some of you wouldn't find anything wrong with sex jokes about an 8 year old black girl.

But Bristol's volunteered to be a public figure, and she's an adult. She's not an 8 year old girl (of whatever race) who is famous because her dad is famous. Sure, Bristol started off that way, but several times now she's done interviews by herself that had nothing to do with her mom.

Why can't people be respectful adults even if she's a public figure? Why do we automatically have to bash a girl when she's trying to do something good? Did people trash Mother Teresa too? (no I'm not comparing the 2).
Yeah, she made a mistake. BFD, we all do.
And she might be out there promoting abstinence. WTF does this have to do with you anyway? Do you enjoy being a total asswipe to a girl who's trying to do her best to prevent what happened to her?

Again, do you also kick old ladies trying to cross the street?

What is wrong with you as a person that makes you feel glee in bashing a teenage girl?

"Regardless of what I did personally, I just think that abstinence is the only way you can effectively, 100% foolproof way you can prevent pregnancy," she responded.

OH TRASH HER NOW!!! MUST BASH BRISTOL...MUST HATE BRISTOL.

Actually, it's pretty hard to get pregnant if you don't have sex. That's really the only point.

What she is promoting will lead to more unwanted pregnancies.

She is an example of the results is the system she promotes.

Do you like teenage girls getting pregnant? Do you like wlefare mothers? Do you like increased abortions? Then STFU


Nice little false analogy.

Do you like teenage girls being complete sluts & sleeping with 15 different guys? Because if we go by your own line of thinking, that's what you're advocating.

I don't like teenage girls getting AIDS either. I'd rather they prevent that by not having sex. But what the hell, a condom is just peachy even if it breaks. Uh, be a little slut if you want, we dont' care if you die.
 
2009-06-12 06:17:31 PM  
CanisNoir: Mordant: So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

Or we could wait for him to drive down a Texas road and put two in his noggin from a Book Depository like a good Socialist Lefty am I right?


I haven't seen the papers every day this week, what are you referring to ?
 
2009-06-12 06:17:43 PM  
CanisNoir: Mordant: So why don't you guys just deal with him the way you deal with people you don't like... stalk him until you find him at church and then blow him away.

Or we could wait for him to drive down a Texas road and put two in his noggin from a Book Depository like a good Socialist Lefty am I right?


Wow, a reference to something terrible that happened 45 years ago. How timely of you.
 
2009-06-12 06:18:51 PM  
I am watching clips of Palin talk about this nonsense on news shows. Why didn't one of them ask her about cap and trade or the Iranian election and let her flounder like the neophyte idiot she is. Demonstrate that she still doesn't know a damn thing about anything except acting like a milfy victim.

Where is Tim Russert when we need him.
 
2009-06-12 06:19:24 PM  
glassa: Uh, be a little slut if you want, we dont' care if you die.

Why is it you can demean little sluts, but Letterman can't?
 
2009-06-12 06:19:26 PM  
CanisNoir: Anarchangel: If all parents would explain birth control and condoms to their children there wouldn't be any arguments as to how sex ed should be handled in schools in the first place.

Ahh the nectar of Tyrants; that sweet syrupy "We're enforcing this on everyone because of the few who don't do it. Think of the children".

/There's a reason it's called "Nanny State"


How is knowledge considered tyranny? And teaching teenage facts about their bodies is considered immoral? Gimme a break!
 
2009-06-12 06:19:27 PM  
DemonEater: Remember, folks, as shiatty as the schools and government can be, parents are usually just as bad!

That's right folks just remember, you will never be as smart nor as able to raise your children as the Federal Government.

Do you even realize the just absolute "wow" factor of what you just said?
 
2009-06-12 06:19:38 PM  
FishingWithFredo: The Why Not Guy: glassa: And I'm sure in farkworld, Gov. Palin should just sit back & let her kids get trashed every day of the week.

There are smart, effective ways of dealing with something like this. Governor Palin chose a stupid, ineffective way.

Palin's comments on "Today" were classy and pretty darned close to perfect. Juxtaposed against Letterman, she ground him into dust.

I'm done for now pointing out that Farklibs are hypocritical, logically inconsistent, hate-filled little creeps.

There aren't enough hours in the day.

Those of your ideological ilk have shown this week that you'll kill American troops in some warped attempt to score further points against Bush and Cheney. Link

Now you're showing you're fine with trashing a politician's kids, so long as it's a politician you dislike.

But hey, that'll teach Palin to come to New York with her 14-year-old daughter to participate in a walk to raise money for Autism. Who the hell do they think they are?
I'm guessing some day at least a few of you will look back and be ashamed at where your ideology was in 2009. I could be wrong.


Yeah, how dare they try to do something good! Stay in Alaska! We don't want your help! You shouldn't be doing nice things for autism anyway!
 
2009-06-12 06:20:23 PM  
CanisNoir: Anarchangel: If all parents would explain birth control and condoms to their children there wouldn't be any arguments as to how sex ed should be handled in schools in the first place.

Ahh the nectar of Tyrants; that sweet syrupy "We're enforcing this on everyone because of the few who don't do it. Think of the children".

/There's a reason it's called "Nanny State"


Forgive me, but I do not view the sharing of vital, possibly life-saving factual information as tyrannical. If anything, I would view withholding that information as being far worse.

I would rather have this country teach everyone about the dangers of sex and how to have it responsibly and safely than to keep the population ignorant because it may offend some Christians.
 
2009-06-12 06:20:37 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: Are you honestly saying that abstinence is not more effective at avoiding pregnancy than artificial birth control?

Again, abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer. Or, abstinence is to birth control what never getting into a car is to safe driving.


Well, if you don't get in the car, you won't get into a car wreck, will you? Seems pretty safe to me.
 
2009-06-12 06:22:08 PM  
someonelse: glassa:

And you can't drown if you don't swim.

Demonstrably untrue.


I find people tend to drown much more frequently if they *don't* swim.
 
2009-06-12 06:22:12 PM  
Anarchangel: Forgive me, but I do not view the sharing of vital, possibly life-saving factual information as tyrannical. If anything, I would view withholding that information as being far worse.

THIS
 
2009-06-12 06:23:01 PM  
crab66: Why are none of the right wing folk outraged by the hate spewed by your news network and radio talk show hosts on a daily basis?

Hate that actually gets people killed.


Oh, are you saying you won't be happy until Bristol is dead?
 
2009-06-12 06:23:05 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: And teaching teenage facts about their bodies is considered immoral? Gimme a break!

A condom is not "part of their body" it's not even anatomy. You want to know what is? You can't get pregnant unless you have sex.

Introduce condoms and now you're getting into "how to have sex" and surprise, lots of people don't want the Public School telling their children "how to have sex".
 
2009-06-12 06:23:09 PM  
glassa: Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: Are you honestly saying that abstinence is not more effective at avoiding pregnancy than artificial birth control?

Again, abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer. Or, abstinence is to birth control what never getting into a car is to safe driving.

Well, if you don't get in the car, you won't get into a car wreck, will you? Seems pretty safe to me.


But then that's not sex education is it?

Jesus, I keep responding to the damned troll. Somebody stop me! I need an intervention!
 
2009-06-12 06:23:10 PM  
glassa: Confabulat: glassa: Why do we automatically have to bash a girl when she's trying to do something good?

If she's promoting abstinence-only education, she is an idiot, and a danger to society.

She should be thoroughly mocked for this. Run out of town, if necessary. We don't need more of those ignorant idiots infecting our culture. The damn creeps keep spawning.

Well, why don't you just shoot her while you're at it?


If you can't tell the difference between mockery and murder, I'd say you probably aren't someone I'd take very seriously about anything.

You can be quiet now. You've demonstrated you don't understand humor or jokes.

Now go whine about what a terrible mean country you live in to people who care.
 
2009-06-12 06:23:15 PM  
glassa: Gamer Grrrl: Nabb1: Are you honestly saying that abstinence is not more effective at avoiding pregnancy than artificial birth control?

Again, abstinence is to birth control what drowning is to preventing lung cancer. Or, abstinence is to birth control what never getting into a car is to safe driving.

Well, if you don't get in the car, you won't get into a car wreck, will you? Seems pretty safe to me.



Look, Pantytwist McCoward still hasn't responded to me.
 
2009-06-12 06:24:06 PM  
glassa: crab66: Why are none of the right wing folk outraged by the hate spewed by your news network and radio talk show hosts on a daily basis?

Hate that actually gets people killed.

Oh, are you saying you won't be happy until Bristol is dead?


The point: you missed it. Keep trying, though. My afternoon's been endlessly entertaining watching you flail around.
 
2009-06-12 06:24:17 PM  
Bottom line, only a coward takes a shot at a kid.

I'm guessing he'd have thought of something a little less clever if her dad had been standing next to him.

Letterman, you're a coward.
 
2009-06-12 06:24:19 PM  
PascalsGhost: glassa: PascalsGhost: I'm up to 250 pounds right now, and just finished 2 hot pockets for lunch.

I'm gonna go on the TV box and spout my ideas on weight loss and healthy living.

Well, now that you mention it, there are several weight loss experts who eariler in their lives were obese. They got tired of being that way & decided to get fit. They did, and now they sell exercise equipment & meal replacements.

Those total hypocrites should be shot right now. How dare they try to help others who are in the same position they used to be.

Look at the highlighted section. Now think...


"I'd like to remedy my mistake by preventing others from making the same mistake"

Quite a horrible thing to do, I guess.
 
2009-06-12 06:24:37 PM  
Whaa! Those mean people on Fark.com aren't caring enough about the sensitivities of a poor family just trying to get ahead politically!

Whaa!
 
2009-06-12 06:24:43 PM  
CanisNoir: Ahh the nectar of Tyrants; that sweet syrupy "We're enforcing this on everyone because..."

So you're pro-choice?
 
2009-06-12 06:24:53 PM  
CanisNoir: Introduce condoms and now you're getting into "how to have sex" and surprise, lots of people don't want the Public School telling their children "how to have sex".

Most of us didn't need to be "taught" how to have sex. I'm curious as to why it was different with you. Hmmmm.
 
2009-06-12 06:25:36 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: Anarchangel: Forgive me, but I do not view the sharing of vital, possibly life-saving factual information as tyrannical. If anything, I would view withholding that information as being far worse.

THIS


I thought you were leaving? :P
 
2009-06-12 06:26:04 PM  
CanisNoir: Gamer Grrrl: And teaching teenage facts about their bodies is considered immoral? Gimme a break!

A condom is not "part of their body" it's not even anatomy. You want to know what is? You can't get pregnant unless you have sex.

Introduce condoms and now you're getting into "how to have sex" and surprise, lots of people don't want the Public School telling their children "how to have sex".


I'm pretty sure that basic anatomy is what teaches "How to Have Sex." Once you explain where babies come from, every kid knows that they come from sticking the penis in the vagina. That's how to have sex.
 
2009-06-12 06:26:15 PM  
glassa: PascalsGhost: glassa: Gamer Grrrl: glassa: I'm not defending Sarah Palin herself. Mock her all you want. Leave her daughters out of it, just like you'd leave Sasha & Malia out of Obama jokes. Why is that so hard to understand?

But I'm sure some of you wouldn't find anything wrong with sex jokes about an 8 year old black girl.

But Bristol's volunteered to be a public figure, and she's an adult. She's not an 8 year old girl (of whatever race) who is famous because her dad is famous. Sure, Bristol started off that way, but several times now she's done interviews by herself that had nothing to do with her mom.

Why can't people be respectful adults even if she's a public figure? Why do we automatically have to bash a girl when she's trying to do something good? Did people trash Mother Teresa too? (no I'm not comparing the 2).
Yeah, she made a mistake. BFD, we all do.
And she might be out there promoting abstinence. WTF does this have to do with you anyway? Do you enjoy being a total asswipe to a girl who's trying to do her best to prevent what happened to her?

Again, do you also kick old ladies trying to cross the street?

What is wrong with you as a person that makes you feel glee in bashing a teenage girl?

"Regardless of what I did personally, I just think that abstinence is the only way you can effectively, 100% foolproof way you can prevent pregnancy," she responded.

OH TRASH HER NOW!!! MUST BASH BRISTOL...MUST HATE BRISTOL.

Actually, it's pretty hard to get pregnant if you don't have sex. That's really the only point.

What she is promoting will lead to more unwanted pregnancies.

She is an example of the results is the system she promotes.

Do you like teenage girls getting pregnant? Do you like wlefare mothers? Do you like increased abortions? Then STFU

Nice little false analogy.

Do you like teenage girls being complete sluts & sleeping with 15 different guys? Because if we go by your own line of thinking, that's what you're advocating.

I don't like teenage girls getting AIDS either. I'd rather they prevent that by not having sex. But what the hell, a condom is just peachy even if it breaks. Uh, be a little slut if you want, we dont' care if you die.


That's great, but the numbers back me up. Abstinence only education leads to more unwanted pregnancies.

If you can how me numbers where proper condom use and non-ab only education leads to more STD's you'd have a point. As it is, you aren't living in the real world. A big problem with righties these days.


CanisNoir: DemonEater: Remember, folks, as shiatty as the schools and government can be, parents are usually just as bad!

That's right folks just remember, you will never be as smart nor as able to raise your children as the Federal Government.

Do you even realize the just absolute "wow" factor of what you just said?



C'mon you stupid attention whore, you know he is right in what he is saying. Kids don't fail cause of bad public education, they fail cause of bad parents.

Every school has everything from future doctors and astronauts down to future drug dealers.

"WAAA!! YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO RAISE MY KIDS!!!"

Don't be such a pussy dumbass, your shiat is getting tired dude. Work on it.
 
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