ESPN link farked?

He sounds just as convincing as Palmeiro

lol, that guy looks like he really might live in his mother's basement, too.

okay, after watching it:

two pro journalists kinda sorta gang up on the blogger, who actually did a fine job defending his point. A couple of times there it seemed like Ken didn't even read the fricking blog post...

Ibanez has fair grounds to be ticked off and say whatever, but the kid's blog was fair.

Foaming: "You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said,

And yet when Derek Lowe was gave his fluids to a reporter, all anyone could concentrate on was how he was an adulterer.

Nice.

brap: Test for anything? Well, initial results of the PAP smear read positive for silicates.

*golfclap*

Autoplaying video commercial = FIAL

"You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool."


You can drink my liquor from an old fruit jar.

HehFoaming: "You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said,



I remember when Sammy Sosa said that and Rick Reilly called him on it (showed up at his locker with a taxi ready to go to a testing clinic 10 minutes away). Boy was Sosa pissed and of course no testing happened. That was farking hilarious.

can this wait? Raul is keeping my fantasy team alive until Manny comes back.

"You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said,


the guy who wrote the blog may not want it Raul...but im Sure Perez Hilton would...but not for testing for steriods.

Looks like they already got his hair . . .

Raul has always been pretty good with the bat. I think he's finally getting some pitches to hit with the protection he's getting from Utley, Howard and the other Phillies.

Why the hell would you pitch to Raul when you have Sexson, Vidro and Beltre hitting around him?

Bottom feeders defending bottom feeders...how quaint.

Don't say that unless you're willing to be called on it, Ibanez. Because someone WILL call you on it. Quickly.

Call me when he actually takes the tests and makes the results public. Until then, talk is cheap, 'roider

Especially when his increase in numbers can easily be attributed to "Citizens Bank Park"

Way to go, Raul. I hope one of his critics takes that bet. Especially the "stool" portion.

Lil ragey, dontcha think?

I'm more happy that he's calling out the lack of accountability from bloggers and the press.

Yes, it's the steroids era and everybody is suspect. But saying Ibanez's performance is the result of PED is ridiculous.

1) His Line Drive Percentage is actually DOWN this year to 15.9% (career 20.2%), but his BABIP is .319 - when you'd expect it to be .280. So yeah, he's been getting lucky.

2) His HR/Fly Ball percentage is 26%, which is wholly unsustainable (since they stared tracking in '02, Ibanez has never cracked 16.5% over a full season)

3) He went from playing in a solid pitcher's park to a moderate park for hitters.

4) He's hit .289 or better with 21+ homers each of the three seasons prior to this. So he was kinda good to begin with.

The point? It's much more likely his performance is due to luck that will regress over the season than it is he's a user.

What will Ibanez sit on if they take his stool?

The MLB player's union would never allow Ibañez to be tested by an independent source. Ibañez likely knows this. Sorry, but even if Ibañez is clean, people are going to ask questions because a) so many players have cheated, and b) the guy is 37 and is having a career year.

I have no idea whether or not he is a cheater, but I have no doubt that Ibañez knows that the union would never allow an independent test on one of its players.

Nice touch to play the "mother's basement" card though. Verry original.

Pfft, I guess Jason Marquis is on steroids because he's tied for the most wins in the league?

This is insane. One breakout HALF of a season and he's getting accused of roid usage? Please.

I can't believe it: a guy puts up decent numbers all year every year, gets traded to the defending World Series champions who play in a hitter-friendly park, and his numbers go up. Must be steroids.

A guy goes from being one of the most feared hitters in the game to sucking ass. Must have been roids.

If EVERYBODY is on steroids, like so many people here seem to think is the case (of course, their own team is excluded from that), then why the fark do we consider it cheating? Especially when there are still steroids that MLB allows players to take, and there's no testing for HGH? It's especially hypocritical when you consider the Greenies era. The only drug Bonds tested positive for was amphetamines (and, like the others he took, wasn't considered a steroid at the time he took it) and that's a bad thing, but it's OK when MLB clubhouses are handing them out like candy in the 70s?

If you think the game is tainted because of drug users, you're a farking moron. This is professional baseball, and professionals use every single advantage they can get their hands on to get ahead. I suppose we should take any known spitballers out of the Hall of Fame, too?

If you want a bunch of people who are 100% clean of drugs, go watch the Olympics and cheer on the swimmer who tokes off of bongs in the offseason.farking puritans.

Anarchangel: Pfft, I guess Jason Marquis is on steroids because he's tied for the most wins in the league?

I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that HRs have a bit more to do with steroids than Wins.

Anarchangel: Pfft, I guess Jason Marquis is on steroids because he's tied for the most wins in the league?

This is insane. One breakout HALF of a season and he's getting accused of roid usage? Please.

I can't believe it: a guy puts up decent numbers all year every year, gets traded to the defending World Series champions who play in a hitter-friendly park, and his numbers go up. Must be steroids.

A guy goes from being one of the most feared hitters in the game to sucking ass. Must have been roids.

If EVERYBODY is on steroids, like so many people here seem to think is the case (of course, their own team is excluded from that), then why the fark do we consider it cheating? Especially when there are still steroids that MLB allows players to take, and there's no testing for HGH? It's especially hypocritical when you consider the Greenies era. The only drug Bonds tested positive for was amphetamines (and, like the others he took, wasn't considered a steroid at the time he took it) and that's a bad thing, but it's OK when MLB clubhouses are handing them out like candy in the 70s?

If you think the game is tainted because of drug users, you're a farking moron. This is professional baseball, and professionals use every single advantage they can get their hands on to get ahead. I suppose we should take any known spitballers out of the Hall of Fame, too?

If you want a bunch of people who are 100% clean of drugs, go watch the Olympics and cheer on the swimmer who tokes off of bongs in the offseason.farking puritans.

Lemme guess, you're a Giants fan, aren't you?

Kinda garbled my point on Bonds. He tested positive for a drug Hank Aaron admitted to taking frequently in his playing days. That drug is not a steroid, obviously.

At least one of the other two drugs he was said to have taken, The Clear, was neither banned by MLB at the time nor was it classified as a steroid by the federal government. In other words, the only part of baseball's drug policy that he violated was for taking the same drug Hank Aaron took all the time.

Look at Josh Hamilton. Years of crack cocaine abuse. He's a dominant hitter when he's healthy, but his past drug use likely makes him injury-prone. So it's okay to have brittle and breaking-down ex-crackheads on your team, but have a guy who took the wrong thing from GNC, and ohhhh no.

When DHEA is no longer allowed by baseball then I'll start believing that they actually care about the steroid era. Until they do, why should I?

I don't care who is on what drugs. They're facing other players who are on drugs. Nobody but Jose Canseco has been shown to have any idea who's taking what, or how many players may be on PEDs. The fact of the matter is, this game was boring and after the strike, it was dying in the American public's eye. No longer could it be called the National Pasttime.

Then two guys had a home run race that packed seats all over the country and got people watching the games on TV again. Those two players are now ridiculed even though if they hadn't performed the way they did WHEN they did, we probably wouldn't watch anymore anyway.

Hypocritical, don't you think?

mjoven1975: Anarchangel: Pfft, I guess Jason Marquis is on steroids because he's tied for the most wins in the league?

This is insane. One breakout HALF of a season and he's getting accused of roid usage? Please.

I can't believe it: a guy puts up decent numbers all year every year, gets traded to the defending World Series champions who play in a hitter-friendly park, and his numbers go up. Must be steroids.

A guy goes from being one of the most feared hitters in the game to sucking ass. Must have been roids.

If EVERYBODY is on steroids, like so many people here seem to think is the case (of course, their own team is excluded from that), then why the fark do we consider it cheating? Especially when there are still steroids that MLB allows players to take, and there's no testing for HGH? It's especially hypocritical when you consider the Greenies era. The only drug Bonds tested positive for was amphetamines (and, like the others he took, wasn't considered a steroid at the time he took it) and that's a bad thing, but it's OK when MLB clubhouses are handing them out like candy in the 70s?

If you think the game is tainted because of drug users, you're a farking moron. This is professional baseball, and professionals use every single advantage they can get their hands on to get ahead. I suppose we should take any known spitballers out of the Hall of Fame, too?

If you want a bunch of people who are 100% clean of drugs, go watch the Olympics and cheer on the swimmer who tokes off of bongs in the offseason.farking puritans.

Lemme guess, you're a Giants fan, aren't you?

If by "Giants fan" you mean "the guy who submitted the 'just like 9/11' headline when Bonds broke Aaron's record" then yes, yes I am.

Sorry Raul, but you have your fellow players to thank for the fact that you are guilty until proven innocent. Deal with it.

Nothing To See Here
Looks like they already got his hair . . .

Yup... this guy's as bald as cue ball. No wonder he's so flippantly offering it up. Makes him look even more culpable, methinks.

T.rex: Nothing To See Here
Looks like they already got his hair . . .

Yup... this guy's as bald as cue ball. No wonder he's so flippantly offering it up. Makes him look even more culpable, methinks.

Maybe he has a huge Zohan bush?

Considering Manny Ramirez's (5th OF, 2nd LF) and Alex Rodriguez's (2nd) standings in the All-Star voting -- I'm gonna go ahead and say that the fans aren't really the ones who care about steroids. It makes for good copy. That's about it.

Kenthehillwilliam: "You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said,


the guy who wrote the blog may not want it Raul...but im Sure Perez Hilton would...but not for testing for steriods.

You'd fly to Cleveland for a zinger, wouldn't ya?

Daniels: Considering Manny Ramirez's (5th OF, 2nd LF) and Alex Rodriguez's (2nd) standings in the All-Star voting -- I'm gonna go ahead and say that the fans aren't really the ones who care about steroids. It makes for good copy. That's about it.

Being as Manroid and A-roid play in the two largest cities in the country, that analogy is shiat. When the cheater is on your team, you're less inclined to condemn them. If it comes out that Pujols was a juicer, you won't see me making any roid-related puns on his name.

And the Phillies just beat the mets by a final score of 5 - 5 4!

(good one umps, because we havent suffered enough)

"Ha! I do not live in my mom's basement, I live in a converted room above the garage, so there"

Am I the only one who thinks the guy who wrote the original article isn't a douche?

Wow, some dude who runs a blog wrote that its possible Ibanez took steroids. BFD.

IAmRight: "There should be more credibility than some 42-year-old blogger typing in his mother's basement. It demeans everything you've done with one stroke of the pen."

Don't mix your metaphors, Raul. Did they type it or write it?

He didn't mix. He used two different metaphors in sequence.

/makes like a tree and gets out of here.

vandenberg.: Am I the only one who thinks the guy who wrote the original article isn't a douche?

Wow, some dude who runs a blog wrote that its possible Ibanez took steroids. BFD.

I can see both sides to it. The blogger came to a logical conclusion, and didn't say that it was proof. But if someone accused me of using roids, I'd be pissed, because that kind of rumor spreads fast, sticks, and makes your professional life tough.

Anarchangel: Kinda garbled my point on Bonds. He tested positive for a drug Hank Aaron admitted to taking frequently in his playing days. That drug is not a steroid, obviously.

At least one of the other two drugs he was said to have taken, The Clear, was neither banned by MLB at the time nor was it classified as a steroid by the federal government. In other words, the only part of baseball's drug policy that he violated was for taking the same drug Hank Aaron took all the time.

Look at Josh Hamilton. Years of crack cocaine abuse. He's a dominant hitter when he's healthy, but his past drug use likely makes him injury-prone. So it's okay to have brittle and breaking-down ex-crackheads on your team, but have a guy who took the wrong thing from GNC, and ohhhh no.

When DHEA is no longer allowed by baseball then I'll start believing that they actually care about the steroid era. Until they do, why should I?

I don't care who is on what drugs. They're facing other players who are on drugs. Nobody but Jose Canseco has been shown to have any idea who's taking what, or how many players may be on PEDs. The fact of the matter is, this game was boring and after the strike, it was dying in the American public's eye. No longer could it be called the National Pasttime.

Then two guys had a home run race that packed seats all over the country and got people watching the games on TV again. Those two players are now ridiculed even though if they hadn't performed the way they did WHEN they did, we probably wouldn't watch anymore anyway.

Hypocritical, don't you think?

Well said.

I'll only add that no one really knows how much steroids actually help and that's my argument for not giving a shiate about who's on them and who's not.

It seems that the two "traditional media" members gang up on the blogger. They never really address his points and only attack the fact he said Raul COULD BE on steroids.

I think it's the fault of the Inquirer for taking the story and printing it as if it was true. If they didn't address it, ESPN wouldn't know about, Raul wouldn't know about it, and I wouldn't know about it.